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Title: Obama Threatened to Shoot Down Israeli Jets Attacking Iran
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URL Source: http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ob ... eli-jets/2015/03/01/id/627575/
Published: Mar 1, 2015
Author: g richter
Post Date: 2015-03-01 20:24:06 by out damned spot
Keywords: Obama, Iran, Israel
Views: 21803
Comments: 102
President Barack Obama threatened to shoot down Israeli planes in 2014 if they were sent to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities, according to reports attributed to a Kuwaiti newspaper. According to the website Israel National News, the Bethlehem-based news agency Ma'an cites Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Jarida. Al-Jarida reports that the alleged threat from the White House forced Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to cancel the planned attack. President Barack Obama threatened to shoot down Israeli planes in 2014 if they were sent to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities, according to reports attributed to a Kuwaiti newspaper. According to the website Israel National News, the Bethlehem-based news agency Ma'an cites Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Jarida. Al-Jarida reports that the alleged threat from the White House forced Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to cancel the planned attack. An Israeli minister on good relations with the Obama administration reportedly tipped Secretary of State John Kerry to the plan and that Obama vowed to shoot down the planes when they crossed over U.S.-controlled airspace in Iraq. Al-Jarida quoted "well-placed" sources saying that Netanyahu, Minister of Defense Moshe Ya'alon and then-Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman made the plans for airstrikes after consulting top commanders. In addition to the attacks, Netanyahu and his ministers decided to try to thwart any nuclear deal between the United States and Iran over fears that a nuclear Iran is a threat to Israel's existence, the newspaper said. Israeli pilots reportedly trained for weeks on the mission and even were able to fly into Iranian airspace without being detected by radar. Israel's fears of nuclear attack are not new. In 2007, an Israeli airstrike took out a suspected nuclear site in Syria. A 1981 airstrike took out a suspected nuclear reactor in Iraq. Israel National News quoted a Daily Beast interview from 2009 in which former President Jimmy Carter's national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski urged Obama to take on any threat to Iran from Israel. "They have to fly over our airspace in Iraq. Are we just going to sit there and watch?" Brzezinski said. "We have to be serious about denying them that right. That means a denial where you aren’t just saying it. If they fly over, you go up and confront them. They have the choice of turning back or not." Brzezinski even suggested, "No one wishes for this but it could be a Liberty in reverse." That was an allusion to an incident in the 1967 Six Day War in which Israeli jets and torpedo boats attacked the USS Liberty in international waters. Israel later called the attack an incident of "friendly fire." Netanyahu is set to address a joint session of Congress on Tuesday over the Iranian nuclear threat. Most Democrats have said they will not attend and Obama has said he will not meet with the prime minister since the talk will occur two weeks from Israeli elections.
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#1. To: out damned spot (#0)
That would be a reasonable assumption.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
A nuclear Iran would be a check on Sunni Muslims also. And that is also good.
Then Zionism is a stupid idea - thanks for gathering all the Jews in one place to make their killing more economical. Bibi asked Jews to leave France for the safety of Israel - seems that won't be a safe bet after all.
Iran should be careful, and remember the often quoted "Samson Option".
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Brzezinski is another subversive asshole the world would be better off to get rid of.
That would be a reasonable assumption. Islam already controls most of Europe. With the conquest of Israel, the next in line is the U. S. with Obama and Shinki's help.
For how long? How long do you think it would take Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc. to acquire nukes of their own (if they already do not have them) once Iran gets one?
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Hey, what are allies for?
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
The Iranians can absorb any Israeli nuke strike and the world would not begrudge Iran's revenge. So this so called "Samson Option" is bullshit. Also, the Jews will forever lose their "Holocaust" survivor's sympathy support.
Islam does not control most of Europe. Wow...
The Arabs already have nukes, Pakistan is storing them for them.
It is not too much of a stretch to think that the nukes have already been distributed given the extreme distrust within the region even among so-called tribal brethren.
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
It is not too much of a stretch to think that the nukes have already been distributed given the extreme distrust within the region even among so-called tribal brethren. So it makes perfect sense for Iran to defend itself with nukes against the Sunni Muslims and the Zionist Israelis and the Americans - just ask Qaddafi what giving up WMD did for him....
If you say so, Sparky. The last I checked no-one in the Mideast is threatening to wipe Iran off the map a la Iran's stated goal for Israel.
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
I see a nuclear armed Israel threaten Iran all the time. And the USA did wipe Saddam's Iraq out after he gave up WMD...and by the way, Iran said that Zionist Israel would one day cease to exist - not the same thing as a threat. I say this as someone who is anti-Iranian regime. I am just arguing that an nuclear armed Iran is no more worth going to war over than a nuclear armed Pakistan.
Muslims are incompatible with peace on earth. Anyone who decides to become a Muslim is by definition evil. If they take their kook Koran Satan inspired book literally. So no Muslim nation should ever be permitted to have Nukes. Israel should destroy Iran if they have intelligence of Iran building nuclear weapons. Afterall Iran did threaten to wipe Israel off the map. In fact their satan inspired book calls them to do that and murder other people too.
Gods idea of giving Israel to the Jews is stupid? I don't think God is stupid.
No they can't. Wow!
No what makes sense. Is to wipe every Muslim government off the face of the earth. That would smell good.
Close your eyes and tap your ruby slippers together and repeat "there is no place like Oz".
NewsMax publishing a story from a website which got it from a Bethlehem news outlet which got it from a Kuwaiti newspaper? Does this really pass for news at NewsMax (or anywhere else)? It's laughable. NewsMax should consider its own reputation more than just churning out its regular Obola Scandal Of The Week. C'mon, let's hear it from the Jerusalem Post or Haaretz if there is anything factual to this. This level of reporting is about like Debka.com or Sorcha Faal fake news accounts.
The report is based on third hand information and may be fantasy. The fact that it is reported says a lot about the perception of the relationship between Netanyahu and Obama.
Like some obscure Kuwaiti newspaper no one ever heard of is privy to the innermost communications of Israel and America. It's laughable and completely lacking in evidence to support the story.
No they can't. Wow! Iran is a large nation is what that means. Israel can not nuke Iran into submission.
Then Zionism is a stupid idea Gods idea of giving Israel to the Jews is stupid? I don't think God is stupid. Why? God said he made mistakes when he made mankind - kind of stupid of him to the point he had to flood the world - which was also kind of stupid - if you wnat to play this game.
This report is bullshit which is why I treat it as a joke/make light of it.
What's really surprising is this story from the Israeli website is Drudge's big headline today. What is Matt thinking? Including this anywhere on his page is questionable, using to headline makes him look gullible and ridiculous.
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To assist us and fight beside us when we need them. Just as Israel did in both Desert Shield and Desert Storm against Iraqi forces in Kuwait, and as they did later in our invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Oh, wait. No they didn't. Our "strategic partner in the Middle East", armed with billions of dollars of American weapons paid for by the U.S. taxpayer, never fired a shot. I did a google search of "Gulf War Allies" and Israel wasn't listed. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Oman, Egypt and 34 other countries. But no Israel.
I chalk this up as typical disinformation put out ahead of Netanyahy's speech to make him look like a warmonger. Unfortunately those who want to believe it ... will believe it.
"On 8 May 2006, then Israeli Vice Premier Shimon Peres said in an interview with Reuters that "the president of Iran should remember that Iran can also be wiped off the map,"
And Iran has never said they would use nuclear weapons to do it. But so what if they did? During the Cold War, the USSR threated to wipe us out every day. With nuclear weapons. Nikita Khrushchev even said, "We will bury you". But we managed to sit down with them and negotiate a truce. Israel can do the same. The problem is, Israel doesn't want to. Right now, they're the bully on the block and they like that.
And exactly why do you think that was? Are you really that uninformed?
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
OMG, a threatening response to an overt threat. Why those dirty Israeli bastards! How dare they defend themself?
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
The "why" is irrelevant. What good is an ally if they can't help?
You said, "The last I checked no-one in the Mideast is threatening to wipe Iran off the map". I was simply replying to your erroneous statement.
The "why" is irrelevant. What good is an ally if they can't help? The why is not relevant? Wow, you really are a little sick puppy if you truly believe that. The why is exactly the reason that Israel was in fact a good ally. The U.S. ASKED Israel to stay out of the fighting. I can't believe how disingenous or intellectually dishonest you are.
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
I was simply replying to your erroneous statement. You are totally f*cked in the head. Kiss off, moron.
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
I chalk this up as typical disinformation put out ahead of Netanyahy's speech to make him look like a warmonger. Unfortunately those who want to believe it ... will believe it. Whatever he is Bibi is not a peacenik. He also, as a private citizen of Israel (I think he was not leader of Likud then - maybe MP?), urged Congress as a special witness to go to war after 9/11 to topple Saddam, so he, like Bush and Clinton, have American blood on their hands.
I find the Christian Zionist the funniest ones of all - they should welcome Iran having nukes as it will usher in the return of Jesus per their formulation.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest" a nuclear Iran is a threat to Israel's existence "
#2. To: Stoner, out damned spot (#1)
#3. To: Stoner (#1)
" a nuclear Iran is a threat to Israel's existence "
#4. To: Pericles (#3)
#5. To: out damned spot (#0)
(Edited)
Israel National News quoted a Daily Beast interview from 2009 in which former President Jimmy Carter's national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski urged Obama to take on any threat to Iran from Israel.
#6. To: Stoner (#1)
" a nuclear Iran is a threat to Israel's existence "
#7. To: Pericles, out damned spot, All (#2)
A nuclear Iran would be a check on Sunni Muslims also. And that is also good.
#8. To: out damned spot, All (#0)
President Barack Obama threatened to shoot down Israeli planes in 2014 if they were sent to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities, according to reports attributed to a Kuwaiti newspaper.
#9. To: Stoner (#4)
(Edited)
Iran should be careful, and remember the often quoted "Samson Option".
#10. To: rlk (#6)
Islam already controls most of Europe. With the conquest of Israel, the next in line is the U. S. with Obama and Shinki's help.
#11. To: SOSO (#7)
For how long? How long do you think it would take Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc. to acquire nukes of their own (if they already do not have them) once Iran gets one?
#12. To: Pericles (#11)
The Arabs already have nukes, Pakistan is storing them for them.
#13. To: SOSO (#12)
The Arabs already have nukes, Pakistan is storing them for them.
#14. To: Pericles (#13)
So it makes perfect sense for Iran to defend itself with nukes against the Sunni Muslims and the Zionist Israelis and the Americans -
#15. To: SOSO (#14)
(Edited)
#16. To: Pericles (#2)
A nuclear Iran would be a check on Sunni Muslims also. And that is also good.
#17. To: Pericles (#3)
Then Zionism is a stupid idea
#18. To: Pericles (#9)
The Iranians can absorb any Israeli nuke strike
#19. To: Pericles (#13)
So it makes perfect sense for Iran to defend itself with nukes against the Sunni Muslims and the Zionist Israelis and the Americans - just ask Qaddafi what giving up WMD did for him....
#20. To: Pericles (#15)
Iran said that Zionist Israel would one day cease to exist - not the same thing as a threat.
#21. To: out damned spot, A K A Stone (#0)
According to the website Israel National News, the Bethlehem-based news agency Ma'an cites Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Jarida.
#22. To: out damned spot (#0)
President Barack Obama threatened to shoot down Israeli planes in 2014 if they were sent to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities, according to reports attributed to a Kuwaiti newspaper.
#23. To: Gatlin (#22)
The report is based on third hand information and may be fantasy.
#24. To: A K A Stone (#18)
The Iranians can absorb any Israeli nuke strike
#25. To: A K A Stone (#17)
#26. To: TooConservative (#21)
#27. To: Pericles, Gatlin (#26)
#28. To: out damned spot (#0)
"According to the website Israel National News, the Bethlehem-based news agency Ma'an cites Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Jarida."
The New York Times Al-Jarida."
#29. To: SOSO (#8)
"Hey, what are allies for?"
#30. To: TooConservative, Pericles, (#27)
#31. To: SOSO (#14)
"The last I checked no-one in the Mideast is threatening to wipe Iran off the map a la Iran's stated goal for Israel."
#32. To: Pericles (#15)
"and by the way, Iran said that Zionist Israel would one day cease to exist - not the same thing as a threat."
#33. To: misterwhite (#29)
I did a google search of "Gulf War Allies" and Israel wasn't listed. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Oman, Egypt and 34 other countries. But no Israel.
#34. To: misterwhite (#31)
On 8 May 2006, then Israeli Vice Premier Shimon Peres said in an interview with Reuters that "the president of Iran should remember that Iran can also be wiped off the map,"
#35. To: SOSO (#33)
"And exactly why do you think that was?"
#36. To: SOSO (#34)
"OMG, a threatening response to an overt threat."
#37. To: misterwhite (#35)
"And exactly why do you think that was?"
#38. To: misterwhite (#36)
You said, "The last I checked no-one in the Mideast is threatening to wipe Iran off the map".
#39. To: TooConservative, Gatlin (#30)
(Edited)
#40. To: misterwhite (#32)
But so what if they did?
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