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Title: HOUSE VOTES DOWN STOP-GAP DHS FUNDING BILL, DHS SHUTDOWN HOURS AWAY
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URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern ... -bill-dhs-shutdown-hours-away/
Published: Feb 27, 2015
Author: CAROLINE MAY
Post Date: 2015-02-27 18:52:33 by out damned spot
Keywords: DHS, House, funding
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Comments: 44
The House voted down a three-week, short term Department of Homeland Security funding bill Friday afternoon. The measure failed on a vote of 203-224 with 52 Republicans voting against the measure. The three-week measure was intended as a stop-gap to allow the House and Senate time to reconcile their divergent DHS appropriations bills without a DHS shutdown. Funding for DHS expires at midnight. Last month the House passed a DHS funding bill with provisions to block President Obama’s executive amnesty. When the bill reached the Senate, Democrats spent much of the month of February refusing to allow debate on it because they opposed the immigration provisions. After nearly a month of Democrats blocking consideration of the bill, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell acquiesced to Democrat demands this week and moved a so- called “clean” DHS bill, free of the controversial riders. The Senate passed that clean bill Friday morning. Following the Senate’s passage of the bill, House Republicans passed a motion to go to conference with the Senate to reconcile the chambers’ divergent Department of Homeland Security funding bills Friday on a vote of 228-191. Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) has already said, however, that Senate Democrats will not entertain a conference committee to blend the bills. “We will not allow a conference to take place. It won’t happen,” Reid told reporters this week. With the clock ticking on the expiration of DHS funding House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) announced after the three-week funding bill failed that votes later Friday night and into the weekend are possible. As it became apparent that the three-week measure would fail, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) exited the House chamber in silence. He did not respond to questions.
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#4. To: out damned spot (#0)
This is precisely the kind of ignorant, partisan idiocy that I despise about the GOP.
"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."
This is precisely the kind of ignorant, partisan idiocy that I despise about the GOP. O'bunghole can stick his executive orders up his ass. This is a brilliant way to reduce the size of government.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Shut it down and never open it back up. Let them get real jobs instead of being tit sucking sponges.
We had no DHS for over 200 years, and were better off without it. Now reduce government by another 90%, and we're talking useful change.
I didn't cap. them. Breitbart did.
‘the Medieval Christian threat is under control’
There is nothing ignorant about eliminating Obombers "free citizenship and welfare for EVERYBODY,along with a voters card!" program.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I couldn't agree more.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Shutting down DHS, Customs & Border Protection, TSA, Coast Guard & Secret Service isn't "brilliant." It's an ignorant, dumbass way to enable ISIS,Al Qaeda, HAMAS, Hizballah, not to mention other foreign & domestic terrorist organizations, individuals and drug smugglers.
"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."
Not the way you state it,it isn't,but WTF is talking about shutting down Customs,border protection,TSA,the USCG,and the Secret Service? You ain't a puppy,Willie. Surely you remember when NONE of those organizations came under Big Mama DHS?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Lock and load! If you see any in your neighborhood, do what you must. Government gets there after it's all over, to put a toe tag on your dead body. Don't count on Obongo being there to wipe your ass.
You ain't a puppy,Willie. Surely you remember when NONE of those organizations came under Big Mama DHS? It's Bush's fault, petey.... "Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."
That's like saying Reagan or Clinton are not culpable for adding to the size of welfare or social services... because Roosevelt created it. You can't hide your liberal agenda behind RINO hate, Willie.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
It doesn't matter... The only thing that matters is: if the GOP controlled Congress fails to fund Homeland Security and all the agencies that currently make-up Homeland Security, then the GOP is guilty of enabling and assisting those who jeopardize our National Security.
"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."
Wanna bet? ROTFLMAO. See #2 above.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
It does matter. You like spending my money for the false sense of security that liberals need to survive. Where was the DHS when two 3rd world Russian dipshits blew up a city block in Boston with a kitchen cooking pot? I'm my own DHS.... It's called Glock
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Probably partying on the taxpayers dime.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Didn't the democrats pretty much all originally vote against creating DHS. I know I was never for hit. Sounds like something out of the third reich.
Banning an armed populace and strengthening/creating more federal police is a liberal agenda... and just creating more/bigger federal LE is something both parties do to garner more votes from the scared populace sheep. Take a look at this last vote.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Quite a few in the House voted against it but in the Senate they were pretty much "all in". http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll367.xml http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm? congress=107&session=2&vote=00249
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
I'm my own DHS.... It's called Glock Clue: Your Glock ain't gonna protect you from some IED hidden inside a knapsack.
"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."
No question about that. It's all Dubya's fault, not O'Bummer's. So what? Is that supposed to make the bitter pill easier to swallow?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
HorseHillary! They control Congress,and Congress controls budgets,including spending. They also write laws,and can just write and pass new budget laws that fully fund the USCG,Border Patrol,etc,etc,etc,and defund Big Boss Man. I know this,you know this,so why do they pretend they are powerless to do anything about it?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
There are good reasons for that. So far they haven't funded block wardens,though. As far as I know,anyhow.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
AND.....,let's not overlook how they keep trying to buy sheriff's through gifts of military equipment,seized money,and outright grants.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Neither will DHS.... remember Boston? How about Oklahoma? When your time is up, Willie, it's time to go. I don't wanna spend money so you feel federally safe. I'll always toss a fair amount of tax money towards State, County and local police. That we need.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Come on, Pete. They ain't buying anyone. The departments don't "owe" the Feds anything for their old, outdated garbage. They just have to promise to never sell it or get rid of it unless it goes back to the Feds. The real reason the Feds grant that shit is to make room for updated equipment. It's always a dilemma, what to do with tax funded, outdated, useless garbage.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
So what? Is that supposed to make the bitter pill easier to swallow? Obviously not... but it's a liberal ploy to keep you from bitching at their part of the problem. It's the most overused tactic on this forum, IMHO.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Yeah,and the Dims aren't buying minorities with welfare and instant citizenship,either. It's just a coincidence that they end up living on Dim Plantations and voting straight Dim tickets when they can't even read the ballots.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Yes, that is true... but the military outdated surplus garbage program is very over rated by you. It's not as significant as you think. One example. Three years ago, while policing the NASCAR race at Watkins Glen, I talked to the Sheriff if that county about a humvee he had parked outside of the command post. It's only used as an eye piece. The Sheriff thought it was such a great idea to get a free Humvee... but never thought about the cost involved (in his little vehicle maintenance budget) to keep it running. It's just for looks. Another example. My department accepted through a grant, free M1' Garands. They were inspected and never used. They still sit in the ammo vault... and never will be used. The department bought Colt AR's my last year there, and I trained the whole department on Patrol Rifle" with the Colts. The Colts were fitted into all the patrol cars, the 870's removed after a policy was written. The military garbage will sit unused... forever. The department doesn't even have a cartridge in stock for them. lol
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
What matters is the Constitution and the separation of powers that is absolutely required for the government it created to function properly. The Obama administration, via DHS secretary Jeh Johnson, has engaged in unlawful and unconstitutional usurpation of power that belongs to the legislative branch. Congress must not fund an agency that refuses to comply with properly enacted laws, and which is determined to create policies to act in a way contrary to law. Congress must not fund an agency to not do its job. The rogue agency must not be funded to engage unlawfully in legislating. As the Federal court has stated in granting a Temporary Injunction, "the Defendants have clearly legislated...." Texas v. United States, TXSD 14-cv-00254, Doc 145-2 at 123. The separation of powers, and the granting of the power of the purse to the House of Representatives, are specifically designed to counter any such unlawful usurpation as that of DHS. In defunding the rogue elements of DHS, Congress is doing its job. Congress has offered full funding for DHS to do what is its lawful and required job. The DHS is an added layer of bureaucracy. The flow of unlawful immigrants across the border demonstrated the "improvement" resulting from the transfer of functions of the Immigration and Naturalization Service from the Justice Department to the DHS. Notably, the FBI remains with the Justice Department. The prior national security experience of Jeh Johnson consists of: However did we have any national security at all before trial lawyers or national campaign finance committee members came along to save us? We all know, or ought to know, who the people are who most jeopardize our national security. They are not hiding in caves in Afghanistan, they are in plain sight in Washington.
I don't think it is significant at all from a tactical POV. It's significance comes from the goodwill it buys to give head cops macho toys to play soldier with. I talked to the Sheriff if that county about a humvee he had parked outside of the command post. It's only used as an eye piece. The Sheriff thought it was such a great idea to get a free Humvee... but never thought about the cost involved (in his little vehicle maintenance budget) to keep it running. My local sheriff,who used to be rational,accepted TWO of the MoFo's because they were "Free". They ain't free. The Feral Government never turns over ownership of them,they just lend them out and the cop shops that take them in are responsible for repairs and upkeep,and the feral government can take them back any time they want. They are nothing but expensive ego-boosting toys. My department accepted through a grant, free M1' Garands. Best damn military rifle ever made. The FN-FAL comes in a distant second because it's not as accurate as a Garand. Or as a BAR if you are talking about serious pieces of work. The military garbage will sit unused... forever. I know a local PD that still has Thompsons they were given in the 30's. AFAIK,none of them has even been out of the arms room since the 50's. Now that Clinton destroyed all the surplus 45 ACP ammo,they will never even see the range for "play time".
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
My contention is we had more.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Nice rant. But you do not lay responsibility upon the American people that vote for this nonsense. Tis' a shame. Without realizing the root cause for the problems America faces because of post war WW2 euphoria, we are fooling ourselves.
Yes, the D&R party voters are a jihadi suicide cult. They hate us, because we're free.
2)Best damn military rifle ever made. The FN-FAL comes in a distant second because it's not as accurate as a Garand. Or as a BAR if you are talking about serious pieces of work. 1) Very true. All expensive upkeep and yes, they must be kept by the PD or returned to the Feds. They do yearly inspections (not for condition but to ensure you still have the stuff) on granted equipment. 2) I was a Road Sergeant and Firearms instructor when we received the rifles. I unpacked them, inspected them and placed them in our weapons vault. When I tried to get enough ammo ordered for them to qualify the officers, the Captain came down to see me. He closed the door to my office and told me straight up that they were to be locked in the vault and never spoke of again. He felt they were an embarrassment to be shown in public, they were too long, heavy and archaic to be used. I remember him laughing uncontrollably, as he inspected one. He told me that he would find local funds to armor the department with Colt AR's...and if I pushed the issue with the Sheriff, I'd never see AR's... and by god, 3 years later, they arrived. The last order I received, prior to retirement was to qualify every member of the department with the 11" AR rifle. It took me a month to complete... I retired before all the gun mounts were installed in the fleet of patrol vehicles. My best shooters, on average, were my female officers. My top shooter was a male.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
I have a "matched" grade FN-FAL which is exceptional in both consitent accruacy and precison target practice @100 yds distance and shot groups of about 3". As I move the distance further (say, 200 yds) the shot groups increasingly expand.
The man is clearly a fool. He had just better hope that neither he nor anyone else in his department ever have to face someone armed with a Garand and they have AR-15's. My best shooters, on average, were my female officers. No surprise there. I had MUCH rather teach a woman to shoot than a man. Ironically enough,women actually listen to you when you are teaching them self-defense. It may be the only time this ever happens,so enjoy it.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Garands that wouldn't shoot 3 shot 1 inch groups at 100 yards were sent back to be fixed. Plus they had that long barrel with a 1 in 10 twist and 173 grain boat tail bullets that made them exceptional long range shoulder arms. Before my eyes started going back,I could shoot parts off of you at 500 yards using the standard iron sights with my rack grade Garand. Seriously. What is the barrel twist on your FN? If it is 1 in 12,it will shot the NATO 147 grain stuff pretty accurately. If it is a "match barrel" with a 1 in 10 twist you need to start handloading and shooting the longer and heavier 168 grain HPBT bullets to get max accuracy. BTW,3 inch groups at 100 yards using surplus ammo and iron sights is pretty accurate for a modern military rifle,but if you want to tighten it up start handloading and pick bullets appropriate for your barrel twist. 3 inches is plenty fine for the intended military use,though. BTW,the FN-FAL is my second favorite military rifle. It is even a better design than the Garand,but I just love accurate rifles. To the point where I had to specify "military rifles" above because I'm really a bolt-action guy at heart and if I could only have one rifle,it would be a pre-64 Winchester Model 70 in a belted magnum. I loved my old 300 H&H,but I think if I could only pick one,I'd probably go with a 7mm Remington magnum today. If I could have two,the other would probably be a 8mm Remington magnum.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I guess it needed a /sarc tag.
Nobody else elected these jokes. Major corporations play a major part in the choice of candidates by both major parties.
I guess it needed a /sarc tag. Sorry about that. Sometimes I am a little slow on the uptake.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#5. To: Willie Green (#4)
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#6. To: Willie Green (#4)
#7. To: out damned spot, *Politics and Politicians* (#0)
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#8. To: Biff Tannen (#3)
#9. To: Willie Green (#4)
This is precisely the kind of ignorant, partisan idiocy that I despise about the GOP.
#10. To: GrandIsland (#5)
O'bunghole can stick his executive orders up his ass.
#11. To: GrandIsland, A K A Stone, hondo68, sneakypete (#5)
This is a brilliant way to reduce the size of government.
Shut it down and never open it back up.
We had no DHS for over 200 years, and were better off without it.
I couldn't agree more.
#12. To: Willie Green (#11)
Shutting down DHS, Customs & Border Protection, TSA, Coast Guard & Secret Service isn't "brilliant."
#13. To: Willie Green, hiding under the bed, awaiting government assistance (#11)
ignorant, dumbass way to enable ISIS,Al Qaeda, HAMAS, Hizballah, not to mention other foreign & domestic terrorist organizations, individuals and drug smugglers
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#14. To: sneakypete (#12)
but WTF is talking about shutting down Customs,border protection,TSA,the USCG,and the Secret Service?
The Dumb One who created DHS to begin with...
So don't blame O'Bummer...
When you defund DHS, you also defund all those other agencies that DUBYA made part of DHS.
It's all Dubya's fault, not O'Bummer's.
#15. To: Willie Green (#14)
It's Bush's fault, petey.... The Dumb One who created DHS to begin with... So don't blame O'Bummer...
#16. To: GrandIsland (#15)
You can't hide your...
#17. To: GrandIsland (#15)
You can't hide your liberal agenda behind RINO hate, Willie.
#18. To: Willie Green (#16)
The only thing that matters is: if the GOP controlled Congress fails to fund Homeland Security and all the agencies that currently make-up Homeland Security, then the GOP is guilty of enabling and assisting those who jeopardize our National Security.
#19. To: GrandIsland (#18)
Where was the DHS when two 3rd world Russian dipshits blew up a city block in Boston with a kitchen cooking pot?
#20. To: GrandIsland, cz82 (#18)
#21. To: A K A Stone (#20)
Didn't the democrats pretty much all originally vote against creating DHS. I know I was never for hit. Sounds like something out of the third reich.
#22. To: A K A Stone (#20)
Didn't the democrats pretty much all originally vote against creating DHS. I know I was never for hit. Sounds like something out of the third reich.
#23. To: GrandIsland (#18)
Where was the DHS when two 3rd world Russian dipshits blew up a city block in Boston with a kitchen cooking pot?
#24. To: Willie Green (#14)
It's Bush's fault, petey....
#25. To: Willie Green (#16)
The only thing that matters is: if the GOP controlled Congress fails to fund Homeland Security and all the agencies that currently make-up Homeland Security, then the GOP is guilty of enabling and assisting those who jeopardize our National Security.
#26. To: A K A Stone (#20)
Sounds like something out of the third reich.
#27. To: GrandIsland (#21)
and just creating more/bigger federal LE is something both parties do to garner more votes from the scared populace sheep.
#28. To: Willie Green (#23)
Clue: Your Glock ain't gonna protect you from some IED hidden inside a knapsack.
#29. To: sneakypete (#27)
AND.....,let's not overlook how they keep trying to buy sheriff's through gifts of military equipment,seized money,and outright gran
#30. To: sneakypete (#24)
It's all Dubya's fault, not O'Bummer's.
#31. To: GrandIsland (#29)
Come on, Pete. They ain't buying anyone.
#32. To: sneakypete (#31)
Come on, Pete. They ain't buying anyone. Yeah,and the Dims aren't buying minorities with welfare and instant citizenship,either.
#33. To: Willie Green, GrandIsland (#16)
The only thing that matters is: if the GOP controlled Congress fails to fund Homeland Security and all the agencies that currently make-up Homeland Security, then the GOP is guilty of enabling and assisting those who jeopardize our National Security.
#34. To: GrandIsland (#32)
but the military outdated surplus garbage program is very over rated by you. It's not as significant as you think.
#35. To: nolu chan (#33)
However did we have any national security at all before trial lawyers or national campaign finance committee members came along to save us?
#36. To: nolu chan (#33)
We all know, or ought to know, who the people are who most jeopardize our national security. They are not hiding in caves in Afghanistan, they are in plain sight in Washington.
#37. To: Pridie.Nones, nolu chan, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#36)
you do not lay responsibility upon the American people that vote for this nonsense
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#38. To: sneakypete (#34)
(Edited)
1) My local sheriff,who used to be rational,accepted TWO of the MoFo's because they were "Free". They ain't free. The Feral Government never turns over ownership of them,they just lend them out and the cop shops that take them in are responsible for repairs and upkeep,and the feral government can take them back any time they want. They are nothing but expensive ego- boosting toys.
#39. To: sneakypete (#34)
The FN-FAL comes in a distant second because ...
#40. To: GrandIsland (#38)
He felt they were an embarrassment to be shown in public, they were too long, heavy and archaic to be used. I remember him laughing uncontrollably, as he inspected one.
#41. To: Pridie.Nones (#39)
(Edited)
I have a "matched" grade FN-FAL which is exceptional in both consitent accruacy and precison target practice @100 yds distance and shot groups of about 3". As I move the distance further (say, 200 yds) the shot groups increasingly expand.
#42. To: sneakypete (#35)
My contention is we had more.
#43. To: Pridie.Nones (#36)
Nice rant. But you do not lay responsibility upon the American people that vote for this nonsense. Tis' a shame.
#44. To: nolu chan (#42)
My contention is we had more.
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