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Title: The biggest threat now is not Radical Islam. It is “Apocalyptic Islam.”
Source: Flash Traffic Blog
URL Source: https://flashtrafficblog.wordpress. ... gious-broadcasters-convention/
Published: Feb 27, 2015
Author: Joel Rosenberg
Post Date: 2015-02-27 13:50:34 by redleghunter
Ping List: *Islamic caliphate expansion*     Subscribe to *Islamic caliphate expansion*
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(Nashville, Tennessee) — Yesterday, the Christian Post published the following article: “ISIS, Iran Are Agents of ‘Apocalyptic Islam’ Paving Way for ‘Islamic Messiah,’ Says NYT Bestselling Author.” I hope you will take a few moments to read it and consider the analysis.

Last night, I discussed this subject in more detail at the closing dinner of the National Religious Broadcasters convention. Here are excerpts from those remarks. I also promised to post stunning research data on the End Times beliefs of Muslims from a 2012 Pew Research Center study. You will find those numbers below.

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THE THREAT OF “APOCALYPTIC ISLAM”

The threat we face is not simply from Radical Islam. Indeed, it not even primarily from Radical Islamic groups like Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, and al Qaeda at this hour, as serious as these threats are.

The most serious threat we face in the Middle East and North Africa is what I call “Apocalyptic Islam.”

This term — “Apocalyptic Islam” — is one that each of needs to become familiar with and begin to teach others. Why? Because for the first time in all of human history, we have not just one but two nation states whose rulers are driven not by political ideology — or even mere religious theology — but by apocalyptic, genocidal End Times eschatology.

The Islamic Republic of Iran today is ruled by an apocalyptic, genocidal death cult. (see also here, here and here)

So is the Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL. (see here and here)

The former are Shia. The latter are Sunni. Both believe the End of days has come. Both believe their messiah – known as the “Mahdi” — is coming at any moment. Both are trying to hasten the coming of the Mahdi. Yet each has entirely different strategies to hasten his arrival or appearance on earth.

ISIS wants to build a caliphate. Iran wants to build The Bomb. ISIS is committing genocide now. Iran is preparing to commit genocide later.

In the near term, ISIS is more dangerous. Why? Because ISIS is on a jihadist rampage right now. Robbing. Killing. Destroying. Enslaving. Raping. Torturing. Beheading. Because ISIS is a Satanic movement. This is not mere terrorism. This is genocide. These are demon-possessed people making blood sacrifices to their god and if they are not stopped they will murder millions and bring down one Mid-eastern regime after another.

As Americans, we dare not turn a blind eye to this threat. If we don’t defeat the jihadists over there, they are coming here. We must act, and act now.

Longer term, Iran is the most dangerous, especially if the President approves this disastrous nuclear deal that is emerging. Why? Because the apocalyptic leaders of Iran are biding their time to build a nuclear arsenal capable of killing tens of millions of people in a matter of minutes.

Far too few people in the West truly understand the nature and threat of Radical Islam. Fewer still are aware of — much less understand — the nature and threat of Apocalyptic Islam. Indeed, many dismiss these concerns all together. But the fact is that a deep and widespread belief exists within the Islamic world that we are living in the End of Days, and that the Islamic “Mahdi” or “messiah” is coming at any moment to bring Judgment Day and the end of all things.

According to a 2012 report by the Pew Research Center, “in most countries in the Middle East and North Africa, South Asia and Southeast Asia, more than half or more of Muslims believe they will live to see the return of the Mahdi.”

Consider that sentence again — “more than half.” In a world of 1.5 billion Muslims, that means more than 750 million Muslims believe not only that the Mahdi is coming, but that his arrival is imminent. •In Egypt, 40% of Muslims believe the return of the Mahdi is imminent. •In Jordan, 41% •Among Palestinians, the number is 46% •In Iraq, a stunning 72% of Muslims believe this

What’s more, an enormous number of Muslims believe that Jesus is coming back to earth. In their eschatology, however, Jesus is not the Savior. He’s not the Son of God. He does not come to reign as King. Rather, Islamic End Times theology posits Jesus as the deputy, serving under the Mahdi, and forcing all people to convert to Islam or die. •In Jordan, 29% of Muslims believe Jesus is coming back to earth •In Egypt, it’s 39% •Among Palestinians, the number is 46% •In Iraq, an eye-popping 64% of Muslims believe Jesus is coming back.

These facts have real-world implications. Our President and many policy-makers are ignoring both the facts and their implications. But we must be clear: we face a threat from Radical Islam which seeks to attack us. We face an even greater threat from Apocalyptic Islam which seeks to annihilate us. Subscribe to *Islamic caliphate expansion*

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#1. To: liberator, GarySpFc, TooConservative, Don, SOSO, out damned spot, cranky, BobCeleste (#0)

PING

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-27   13:51:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: redleghunter (#1)

We face an even greater threat from Apocalyptic Islam which seeks to annihilate us.

But...but that can't be. Both Dubya and the Emperor claim Islam is a "Religion of Peace."

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-27   14:02:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: redleghunter (#0) (Edited)

Because ISIS is on a jihadist rampage right now. Robbing. Killing. Destroying. Enslaving. Raping. Torturing. Beheading. Because ISIS is a Satanic movement. This is not mere terrorism. This is genocide. These are demon-possessed people making blood sacrifices to their god and if they are not stopped they will murder millions and bring down one Mid-eastern regime after another.

Jewish propaganda.

/extreme sarcasm

Islam is a SATANIC DEATH CULT.

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-27   14:03:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: redleghunter, GarySpFc, TooConservative, Don, SOSO, out damned spot, cranky, BobCeleste (#0)

•In Jordan, 29% of Muslims believe Jesus is coming back to earth
•In Egypt, it’s 39%
•Among Palestinians, the number is 46%
•In Iraq, an eye-popping 64% of Muslims believe Jesus is coming back.

This is interesting. Especially Iraq.

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-27   14:05:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Liberator (#4)

•In Jordan, 29% of Muslims believe Jesus is coming back to earth •In Egypt, it’s 39% •Among Palestinians, the number is 46% •In Iraq, an eye-popping 64% of Muslims believe Jesus is coming back. This is interesting. Especially Iraq.

By their apocalyptic design not so much. Their version of Jesus is like John the Baptist. But for the Mahdi.

What's even more surprising???

There are probably more Muslims who believe Jesus is coming again than Americans:)

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-27   14:13:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Liberator, GarySpFc (#4)

This is interesting. Especially Iraq.

Iraq has a strong Mahdi cult streak in the southern provences.

One such group tried to kill Sistani back in January 2007. But they (300) ran into an Iraqi Platoon with US SF advisors.

Long story short long battle, they were armed to the teeth, loads of close air support gunship support, helo attacks. Lasted roughly 36 hours.

I raqi Army battles Shia cult, Sunni insurgents in Najaf

It was a very busy 48 hours for everyone in my OPS center.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-27   14:21:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: redleghunter (#0)

The biggest threat to America is the Republicrat Party and all it little bleating sheeple.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-27   14:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: sneakypete (#7)

The biggest threat to America is the Republicrat Party and all it little bleating sheeple.

Well yes...the enemy within is the most dangerous threat.

The enemy within addles interior lines while the Jihadis march to the gates.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-27   14:50:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: redleghunter (#8)

The enemy within addles interior lines while the Jihadis march to the gates.

And in this case,holds the gates wide open for them and invites them in.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-27   14:51:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: redleghunter (#1)

Longer term, Iran is the most dangerous, especially if the President approves this disastrous nuclear deal that is emerging. Why? Because the apocalyptic leaders of Iran are biding their time to build a nuclear arsenal capable of killing tens of millions of people in a matter of minutes.

I dunno. The Pakis have Da Bomb and they haven't nuked us yet out of apocalyptic fervor.

Of course, more people should be aware of the differences between Shi'a and Sunni, the sizes of their factions and distribution and the influence of the Muslim apocalyptic.

But they're all too busy waiting for the next Left Behind movie (now with Nicolas Cage!).

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-27   16:56:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: sneakypete (#7)

I don't believe I fully understand the last part of your statement, but you aren't leaving out the role of the Obamanistas, are you?

Don  posted on  2015-02-27   18:56:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Don (#11)

I don't believe I fully understand the last part of your statement, but you aren't leaving out the role of the Obamanistas, are you?

Of course not.

The Republicrats are the illegitimate offsprung of the incestuous coupling of the Dim-o-crats and the alleged Republicans/neo-cons.

Thus they are Republicrats.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-27   19:15:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: sneakypete (#12)

Republicrats

RINOcrats.

There's no trace of a republic in The Party.

VxH  posted on  2015-02-27   20:54:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: VxH (#13)

RINOcrats.

There's no trace of a republic in The Party.

Things have evolved (devolved?) to the point where Barry Goldwater would be called a RINO today in the party of the Bush Crime Family and Lady Lindsey.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-27   21:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: redleghunter (#0)

The most serious threat we face in the Middle East and North Africa is what I call “Apocalyptic Islam.”

This term — “Apocalyptic Islam” — is one that each of needs to become familiar with and begin to teach others. Why? Because for the first time in all of human history, we have not just one but two nation states whose rulers are driven not by political ideology — or even mere religious theology — but by apocalyptic, genocidal End Times eschatology.

This is the first time many of us are hearing of this insane micro-cult of the satanic Death Cult of Islam. Apparently news is that it's not so "micro."

And there are Emperor 0dinga and his cabal of Muzzie Cultist enablers stoking the fire of insanity run amok.

This is the first time in American history that this government has fallen on its knees to a false god -- Allah, aka Satan.

The future is bleak for such a nation who turned its back on Him and His blessings. God will not be mocked.

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-28   0:02:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TooConservative (#10)

More people should be aware of the differences between Shi'a and Sunni, the sizes of their factions and distribution and the influence of the Muslim apocalyptic.

Does it really matter? And how?

They're all too busy waiting for the next Left Behind movie (now with Nicolas Cage!).

I hope the CGI are better than the first. (and does Israel lose this time? THAT would make many anti-joos, Muzzies, and the Kumbaya Tree-Hugger fans happy.)

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-28   0:05:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Liberator (#15)

Quick question about you your personal life: do you have any detail about your personk detail?

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-02-28   0:11:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Pridie.Nones (#17)

Wait...while I run your question through Babelfish...

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-28   0:19:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Liberator (#18)

I worry about you, Liberator. Your comments could make a difference and yet I see you hunker down. Can you introduce yourself as a self respecting poster?

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-02-28   0:28:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Liberator, liberator, GarySpFc, TooConservative, Don, SOSO, out damned spot, cranky, BobCeleste (#2)

We face an even greater threat from Apocalyptic Islam which seeks to annihilate us.

Other than countries that border Islam, Islam is not existential threat to the western world because they have no industrial base or economy that could sustain war.

At best the Muslims will be a long term annoyance and hinderance like the Barbary Pirates were for a couple of centuries till the Europeans colonized Africa.

Worst case scenario is the militias is the set off a nuclear bomb but that would be a one off kind of attack - terrorist Muslims don't have the means to make multiple nukes. Pakistan and maybe Iran can make nukes but they are not world conquerors and are rational state actors and have local enemies which makes them focused away from the west.

Pericles  posted on  2015-02-28   3:03:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Liberator (#16)

Does it really matter? And how?

Oh dear. How to explain...

Yes, it really does matter. Worldwide, the Sunnis are ~90% and the Shi'a are ~10%. Iran and Iraq are majority Shi'a, the longtime heartland of Shi'a Muslims. Syria's crazy diversity is a good sample of the mixes you get:

Sunni Arabs account for 59–60% of the population, most Kurds (9%) and Turkomen (3%) are Sunni, while 13% are Shia (Alawite, Twelvers, and Ismailis combined), 10% Christian (the majority Antiochian Orthodox, the rest including Greek Catholic, Assyrian Church of the East, Armenian Orthodox, Protestants and other denominations), and 3% Druze. Druze number around 500,000, and concentrate mainly in the southern area of Jabal al-Druze.
Saddam, for instance, was a Sunni in a 60% Shi'a majority Iraq.

Yemen, on the southern edge of the Arabian peninsula (and the Saudis), just fell to Shi'a rebels.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-28   4:38:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete (#14)

Things have evolved (devolved?) to the point where Barry Goldwater would be called a RINO today in the party of the Bush Crime Family and Lady Lindsey.

Goldwater got the same treatment back then, they just didn't have the internet and therefore the term RINO back then.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-28   4:57:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Liberator, *Crime and Corruption*, *The Two Parties ARE the Same*, *World history*, *Politics and Politicians*, *Arab Spring Jihad* (#15)

And there are Emperor 0dinga and his cabal of Muzzie Cultist enablers stoking the fire of insanity run amok.

Of course they are. Not because of some grand scheme they have devised because they are nothing but mindless tools following the orders of their billionaire masters.

It's the globalists who are behind this,and they are behind it because chaos benefits their goals of a worldwide corporate government/the stealth establishment of new kingdoms.

Chaos has ALWAYS historically lead to harsh government crackdowns on dissidents and troublemakers because this is essential to restoring order.

The difference this time is it will be the very same people restoring order that created the chaos.

Just like chaos in Germany and Russia following WW-1 led to Communist and the more evolved Fascist dictatorial regimes in those countries,worldwide chaos will eventually lead to people all over the planet screaming for government to "Do something,do ANYTHING,BUT STOP THE KILLINGS AND RESTORE ORDER!"

This time the chaos won't be regional,it will be global.

What else CAN that lead to if not a global police state?

The day after Worldwide Government Inc is established and the board members seated,terrorist organizations will stop receiving funding,and their leadership will be rounded up and executed. People all over the world will breathe a sigh of relief and wonder why they didn't demand this earlier,and most will never once wonder how it was possible for these billionaires to shut down the terrorist so quickly when no elected government in the world was able to even slow them down.

Saudi Arabia will become the Kingdom of Arabia,and Israel will become the Switzerland (banking center)of the Muddle East. A protected enclave because they will be the ones handing the financing of all the minor kings,princes,and other royalty.

They will be able to shut them down because THEY are the ones funding and encouraging the terrorism.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-28   7:34:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Liberator, *Crime and Corruption*, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#15)

And there are Emperor 0dinga and his cabal of Muzzie Cultist enablers stoking the fire of insanity run amok.

Of course they are. Not because of some grand scheme they have devised because they are nothing but mindless tools following the orders of their billionaire masters.

It's the globalists who are behind this,and they are behind it because chaos benefits their goals of a worldwide corporate government.

Just like chaos in Germany and Russia following WW-1 led to Communist and the more evolved Fascist dictatorial regimes in those countries,worldwide chaos will eventually lead to people all over the planet screaming for government to "Do something,do ANYTHING,BUT STOP THE KILLINGS AND RESTORE ORDER!"

This time the chaos won't be regional,it will be global.

What else CAN that lead to if not a global police state?

The day after Worldwide Government Inc is established and the board members seated,terrorist organizations will stop receiving funding,and their leadership will be rounded up and executed. People all over the world will breathe a sigh of relief and wonder why they didn't demand this earlier,and most will never once wonder how it was possible for these billionaires to shut down the terrorist so quickly when no elected government in the world was able to even slow them down.

They will be able to shut them down because THEY are the ones funding and encouraging the terrorism.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-28   7:35:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: All (#24)

Sorry for the double post. I got distracted.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-28   7:39:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: sneakypete (#25)

You can usually hit Edit and empty one of them of any content, leaving just the comment header/footer. You had time to do it but I think that's expired by now.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-28   8:08:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: sneakypete (#25)

Sorry for the double post. I got distracted.

So what's her name?

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-28   8:17:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: TooConservative, sneakypete (#26)

You had time to do it but I think that's expired by now.

It's 40 minutes.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-28   8:18:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: redleghunter, Too Conservative, Vicomte13, Gatlin (#0)

Go to the 18:00 mark and tell me what you think about Rubio's opinion about Obozo and ISIS.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-28   8:54:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: sneakypete (#25)

Sorry pete I initially forgot to PING you to #29.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-28   8:57:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete (#23)

cue theme from X-files...

Show chain smoking guy in background...

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-02-28   8:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: CZ82, Pericles, redleghunter (#29)

"They're not Presbyterian." Kinda annoyed Vannity. As it should since he was trying to give Rubio a chance to shine on foreign policy.

Then Rubio delusionally says that Obama won't fight ISIS because it might sour the deal with Iran. This boob seems unaware that Shi'a Iran would like nothing better than to knock off Sunni ISIS and protect its Alawite (Shi'a) partner, Assad. This would also please Shi'a Iraq.

This twit is past his sell-by date.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-28   9:40:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: CZ82 (#30) (Edited)

He mostly sounds good,but the problem is by now we have all heard wannabe presidents sounding good and meaning none of it. Or meaning it and then being slowly strangled by the RNC and GOP leadership to force them to fall into neo-con line to get any support.

I now have a hard time getting excited about any of them.

And I am NOT thrilled by someone who calls them-self a "conservative American",and then thinks he gets to determine what rights American citizens can have and what rights they can't have,depending on who they love or how they entertain themselves and relax.

If you think the role of government is to be your daddy or babysitter,you ain't a conservative.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-28   12:32:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: no gnu taxes (#31)

cue theme from X-files...

Show chain smoking guy in background...

Does that make anything I wrote any less true?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-28   12:35:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: sneakypete (#33)

I now have a hard time getting excited about any of them.

Me too. I'm already sick of the whole bunch. Including Rand.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-28   12:36:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: TooConservative (#35)

I'm already sick of the whole bunch. Including Rand.

HEY! Give him some credit! It must have taken him all of 2 micro-seconds to sell out!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-28   12:45:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: sneakypete (#36)

Rand doesn't seem to have a second act. Or even to be presenting a convincing first act.

He's bogged down with his policy initiatives, can't seem to move forward much. And the Senate is still no place to really shine as a legislator since the Dims obstruct about as much in the minority as in the majority.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-28   12:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: sneakypete (#34)

Does that make anything I wrote any less true?

Do you have any actual proof it's true?

Of course, the fact that there is no proof is actual proof it must be true...

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Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-02-28   18:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: no gnu taxes (#38)

Does that make anything I wrote any less true?

Do you have any actual proof it's true?

You mean other than common sense,reason,history,and the ability to add 2+2 and come up with 4?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-28   18:54:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Pericles, liberator, GarySpFc, TooConservative, Don, SOSO, out damned spot, cranky, BobCeleste (#20)

Other than countries that border Islam, Islam is not existential threat to the western world because they have no industrial base or economy that could sustain war.

At best the Muslims will be a long term annoyance and hinderance like the Barbary Pirates were for a couple of centuries till the Europeans colonized Africa.

The French disagree with you. So do the Danes, Brits and Americans in NYC, PA and VA. Not to mention all Jews living outside Israel are targets.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-01   2:19:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: CZ82 (#29)

Think he has both points right.

First is Iran does see themselves as a regional super power.

Second point is important. Sunni Muslim nations as boots on the ground with US support. Don't create a Sunni vacuum for Iran to swoop in.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-01   2:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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