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Title: For Veterans, family and friends of veterans only.
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Published: Feb 26, 2015
Author: Pastor Bob Celeste
Post Date: 2015-02-26 12:51:20 by BobCeleste
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Views: 7026
Comments: 47

For Veterans, family and friends of veterans only.

The Good, The Bad, The Throughly Detestable.

The Good, The VA Hospital and medical staff Albuquerque, NM

I wasn't going to talk about this, but since the truth is starting to come out about the mid level and upper level management of the VA, I think this is the time to open a forum for Vets to talk about their experiences in the VA system, to tell us about the good, the bad and the throughly detestable.

My Account, by Rev. Robert M. Celeste, USN 6/61 thru 6/62, USMC 6/62 thru 6/65.

On October 5th, my wife and I left Maine to come to Rio Ranchi, NM to help our son and daughter-in-law with their three girls. Well we got there on the 23 and everything was wonderful.

Then on November 17th Dan and my wife rushed me to the VA Emergency Room, I thought I was constipated, it took the VA staff less than an hour to not only get me into the ER but get the first X-rays done, finding that I had a seriously blocked colon that would require emergency surgery, in under 30 hours I was being operated on, a foot of colon was removed and an colostomy bag installed.

The Doctors, nurses, techs, etc were excellent, I was alive and every member of the medical team and support staffs were doing everything they could to keep me that way.

On November 27th, I went home, weak but alive, my Surgeon, Dr. Reuben Last, one of the nicest guys God has ever created, spent a lot of time with me, and finally told me that while he had removed the cancer in my Colon, it was in my blood and elsewhere, that I was a stage three cancer patient and that the VA was offering me Chemotherapy.

It was then that Dr. Last and I had a long talk about my not wanting to have chemo and instead would be using massive amounts of raw, bitter Apricot Kernels, Apricots and prayer. His reply was simple, he said "Bob, this is the VA, here you are the ultimate decider of your care."

On February 6th I was once again rushed to the VA ER, this time with a Saddle Blood Clot blocking the main artery coming into the lungs from the heart, this was much more life threatening than my first visit. This time I got one of the dark blue, almost black under sheets made out of a rubberized canvas, used for patients not expected to live. And pain beyond belief.

Once again the Doctors and Nurses, the Technical people and all others, in the medical staff were superb, Six days later I was again able to leave.

The Bad:

On the second to last day, on the tenth of February, I had the misfortune of meeting a mid level manager. My wife and I were talking a little walk, as we went by a room, there was a voice, weak but clear calling out for help, it was to low for anyone not standing right outside the door to hear it, so only Cec and I could hear it, we immediately called for help, my wife louder than me. Within seconds Nurses and a doctor responded and were in the mans room, in getting there, a nurse bumped into this mid level bureaucrat, a woman who, told me she was from Massachusetts. In my conversation with her, she obviously was not happy that she ahd been bumped into, told me she did not like it in Albuquerque and wished she was in Boston, probably the only thing she and I would agree on.

The Throughly Detestable:

Two things fall into this category;

First: Dr. Vaughn The doctor who was suppose to be my Primary Care Physician for the time I am in New Mexico, this guy needs to be avoided by vets. Had he taken the time to read the results of the PET scan he would ahve known I was cancer free, but, during our initioal visit he mentioned the Chemo I was offered, when I told him I had turned it down and was using B17, he said "Well there is nothing else I can do for you." And that ended our visit. I am a diabetic, there is a lot more to me than cancer, cancer, that had he taken the time to look, if he had taken the time to prepare for my visit with him by reading my charts, the test and the other doctors and nurses notes, he would have known that the PET scan done on January 12th showed no signs of cancer.

The second is even worse. The city of Rio Ranchio.

Vets, you need ot avoid driving through the City of Rio Ranchio, NM at all cost, they ahd Red Light Cameras and SUV's parked on the side of the road that take pictures and issue tickets, and because theses tickets, they start at one hundred dollars, are not criminal, like those issued by the real police, but are civil, you do not have the right to demand to see the calibration dates, who calibrated them or ask for any other evidence that they don't want to give you.

Fellow Vets, let me tell you, the media lies, all of the medical staff I came in contact with at the Albuquerque VA are top drawer, it is the mid level managers and above that needs to be horse whipped along with their apologist in the media and body politic.

Let me just add this, I am now cancer free and had I been using Chemo when the Embolism hit, I would have been to weak to survive. Only one member of the medical staff, only one, a doctor, Dr. Vaughn, turned a deaf ear to my needs because I rejected Chemo, every other member of the medical staff was supportive and some even curious.

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#1. To: A K A Stone, Redleghunter, sneakypete, stoner, All (#0)

For Veterans, family and friends of veterans only.

The Good, The Bad, The Thoroughly Detestable.

Please ping our fellow veterans, email this to vets, put it on face book, lets' clean up the VA by shining a light on the good and revealing the names of the bad.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-26   12:54:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#0)

The Good, The Bad, The Throughly Detestable.

Thoroughly, not Throughly, I have got to get me a proof reader.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-26   13:16:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: BobCeleste (#0)

My local experiences with the VA have been overall positive. Both the VA clinic and the VA hospital. I got into the system about 5 years ago when I decided it was time to get checkups, etc as some of my older colleagues were dying from cancers and things like that.

I go for routine things such as checkups and eyeglasses. I did have a procedure in January where I went under the knife for a routine thing. Again, no complaints at all.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-02-26   13:23:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BobCeleste, *Health*, *Crime and Corruption*, *Military or Vets Affairs* (#0)

ping Bob,I disagree that this should be for veterans. IMHO,everyone that cares should read about these issues. The more people we have demanding congress do something about it,the more changes that will be made.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-26   13:41:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: BobCeleste (#0)

Bob thanks for the info. With my small experience so far with the VA your comments are right on.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-26   14:05:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Fred Mertz (#3)

Fred, be more specific if you can, which VA do you use? Which clinic, are you happy enough with your doc to mention his or her name?

use mine, without the misspelling, as an example, I am real happy with Dr. Last, I would avoid Dr. Vaughn.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-26   14:14:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete (#4)

Bob,I disagree that this should be for veterans.

Perhaps, but it is only Veterans who have first hand knowledge of the system, the docs and the staff.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-26   14:16:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: redleghunter (#5)

I think, we as Veterans, must praise the good in the system, while as well spotlighting the bad.

When I travel back to Maine in 45 days, I want to know how the VA hospitals are in TX, OK, AR, TN, KY,OH,PA,NY,CN,MA,and NH. States we will be traveling thru.

Are there ER's I should avoid? Are there doctors I should ask for? Etc.

Maybe A K A will give us our own category, Veterans Hospitals and Doctors

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-26   14:21:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: BobCeleste, *Military or Vets Affairs* (#8)

I think, we as Veterans, must praise the good in the system, while as well spotlighting the bad.

When I travel back to Maine in 45 days, I want to know how the VA hospitals are in TX, OK, AR, TN, KY,OH,PA,NY,CN,MA,and NH. States we will be traveling thru.

Are there ER's I should avoid? Are there doctors I should ask for? Etc.

Maybe A K A will give us our own category, Veterans Hospitals and Doctors

I think this ping list should do as it is general enought and Pete has used it for VA stuff in the past.

You won't be travelling through my part of Texas (too far in state) for me to opine on the Temple Tx VA. But from what I heard the ER is very good, but primary care appointments hard to come by.

Plus if a Vet never enrolled in VA care to begin with they would have to fill out a VA 10-10 EZ form before seeking primary care and getting a VA benefits card. Income determines copays and such as well.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-26   15:11:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BobCeleste (#0)

...while he had removed the cancer in my Colon, it was in my blood and elsewhere, that I was a stage three cancer patient and that the VA was offering me Chemotherapy.

I know we discussed this a bit before. I hope the oncologist discussed follow up CEA blood testing. With Stage 3 colon cancer what is unknown even with PET and CT scan are the microscopic levels of cancer cells in the blood and lymph nodes. Both tests will pick up 'colonies' of cancer forming or posited in the areas of 'most likely suspects' like the liver and lungs. Even patients who do the chemotherapy still have CEA testing every 2-4 weeks.

So when you get settled back in Maine, I recommend having your doctor set you up for the CEA screening just to keep an eye on the levels. The link above has more medical jargon on what CEA is all about.

Had a friend who was also one of my back doctors diagnosed with Stage IV colon cancer. It spread to the pelvis, liver, lungs. He survived one year. By stage IV with colon cancer there is not much they can do. He went through the raditation and chemo for 6 months just to get his affairs in order for his still young family.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-26   15:32:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: BobCeleste (#6)

Which clinic, are you happy enough with your doc to mention his or her name?

I'm in Kentucky and I'll leave it at that.

I am on my third doctor (primary care) at the nearby VA clinic - after 5 years. I liked #1 and #3 (now), although I had no major complaints about #2 - he just seemed mediocre and slow. He may have ridden the short bus to medical school.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-02-26   15:38:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: redleghunter, BobCeleste (#9)

But from what I heard the ER is very good, but primary care appointments hard to come by.

Last time I called Primary Care at the base (WPAFB) they told me "9" days for an appointment for an ear ache, said forget it and hung up. Waited until 1500 hrs and went to the ER, not a soul in there got right in/out and prescription filled inside of an hour. Needless to say I don't call for an appointment anymore.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-26   15:48:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: BobCeleste (#8)

My dad made use of the Philly VA quite a bit.
They referred him to Philly Presbyterian hospital
for his quad bypass back in 2005 - at 75 years old.
(After 60 years of smoking cigarettes - 15 to 75).
He died of three types of cancer. At 89.

I said he didn't suffer too much.
My mom says he did.
I dunno.

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-02-26   16:04:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: redleghunter (#9)

You won't be travelling through my part of Texas (too far in state) for me to opine on the Temple Tx VA. But from what I heard the ER is very good, but primary care appointments hard to come by.

How about the VA hospital in Amarillo?

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-26   16:05:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: redleghunter (#10)

Next one is March 18.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-26   16:06:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Fred Mertz (#11)

We will be spending 12 days or so at the General Butler camp ground in Carrolton, probably mid April. Know anything about the VA hospital in Louisville?

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-26   16:07:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: CZ82 (#12)

Last time I called Primary Care at the base (WPAFB) they told me "9" days for an appointment for an ear ache, said forget it and hung up. Waited until 1500 hrs and went to the ER, not a soul in there got right in/out and prescription filled inside of an hour. Needless to say I don't call for an appointment anymore.

Good lesson, Thanks.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-26   16:09:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Fred Mertz, BobCeleste (#11)

I have never applied for va medical benefits and was wondering how hard is it and do they handle just getting old. I had no injuries while in the military: 1964-69, honorable discharge and two years in vietnam. Any advice would be very helpful.

calcon  posted on  2015-02-26   16:22:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: BobCeleste (#8)

I think, we as Veterans, must praise the good in the system, while as well spotlighting the bad.

Amen!

As well as maybe point out VA hospitals that are connected to medical teaching schools that are government research centers.

I have no idea if they all are or not,but the one in Denver is connected to a medical college,and I have heard recently that the one in Hampton,Va is connected to a teaching college as well as being a government research center for diabetes treatment.

Maybe no big deal to most of us,but if you are someone that badly needs advanced treatment or has a spouse or child that needs it,this is the sort of thing that would be handy to know about.

Seems like I also heard the one in Houston is a cancer research center.

Maybe some of you might know this stuff for certain and have recommendations?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-26   16:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: BobCeleste (#8)

Are there ER's I should avoid? Are there doctors I should ask for? Etc.

My experience is to avoid doctors at VA hospitals with foreign accents. Especially Jamaican accents.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-26   16:33:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: BobCeleste, CZ82 (#17)

Last time I called Primary Care at the base (WPAFB) they told me "9" days for an appointment for an ear ache, said forget it and hung up. Waited until 1500 hrs and went to the ER, not a soul in there got right in/out and prescription filled inside of an hour. Needless to say I don't call for an appointment anymore.

Good lesson, Thanks.

Doesn't always work. I tried that trick back in the early 70's when I had 4 pulled muscles in my lower back and knew there was no way I could stand the pain of standing in multiple long lines (the norm back then) before I even got in to see a doc.

So I waited and went in on a Saturday morning around 6 AM,and the head nurse looked at my records and told me that since I had a history of back injuries it wasn't an emergency,and I should come back on Monday and go through the normal screening.

Since I was in a lot of pain and hadn't slept for more than a few minutes at a time for a couple of days,I went off on her and told her that ONE of us was going to be having a medical emergency this morning,you,or me. Make your choice". I have a pretty high tolerance for pain,but I was already way over my limit and needing some relief.

That worked,and I ended up with a doctor with a big needle full of Novacaine and a filled prescription for maybe a dozen Valiums. The shot got me about 6 hours of sleep before I woke up screaming,but that 6 hours was a big thing and needed. I took a couple of the valium and managed to get back to sleep. Being still for a few hours and being rested made a lot of difference.

I did the same thing at the Denver VA hospital in the late 80's,but after seeing me two or three times they started telling me to make an appointment.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-26   16:44:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: calcon (#18) (Edited)

I have never applied for va medical benefits and was wondering how hard is it and do they handle just getting old.

I took in my ID card and sat down for about 15-20 minutes when I decided to put myself in the system.

I'm pretty sure you have to have an appointment for that, but I'm not certain.

They will categorize you in one of 9 or so priorities for health care. They ask you a bunch of standard questions and input the answers in the system. They want to know your income and I'm sure that might have a major effect on how you'll be categorized. Believe it or not, poor people like me get treated well. Wealthy individuals such as yourself might have some obstacles.

Oh yeah, they don't like pot heads.

I remember Badeye admitting to entering the VA system a number of years ago when his medical insurance costs grew higher.

Spend an hour of your busy time and find out. You earned it.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-02-26   16:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: BobCeleste (#0)

Which VA Medical Centers are best? Probably the ones in Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, Wyoming and Idaho. That's just a guess.

Let's Google it!

TEA Party Reveler  posted on  2015-02-26   16:51:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: All (#23)

Wall St Journal article!

http://www.wsj.com/articles/veterans-affairs-hospitals-vary-widely-in-patient-care- 1401753437

TEA Party Reveler  posted on  2015-02-26   16:53:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: calcon (#18) (Edited)

I have never applied for va medical benefits and was wondering how hard is it and do they handle just getting old. I had no injuries while in the military: 1964-69, honorable discharge and two years in vietnam. Any advice would be very helpful.

All you have to do to get into the system is to be a veteran with a honorable discharge.

Take a copy of your DD-214 to the closest VA hospital or clinic,and tell them you want to register for a VA patient card. They can help you fill out the forms right there,and possibly give you a card on the spot. It's been a few decades for me,so I can't remember how long it took.

Be sure to take copies or at least the data on wages earned and taxes paid with you,as well as financial obligations. That will speed up the process because they will know if and how to bill you for services.

Even then expect them to make an appointment for you for a physical so they have a record to build on and know what to expect.

No,you do NOT need to call ahead for an appointment to do this. The clerk behind the reception desk can hand you the papers and answer any questions you might have.

Yes,the VA deals with vets that are getting old,or who are just suffering from non-service related illnesses or injuries. If you are treated for a non-service related injury or illness,they will bill you for treatment.I am GUESSING at a reduced rate. That all depends on your income level,the amount of money you owe,etc,etc,etc. I personally know people like you who are not service-connected disabled who actually live on psych wards or old-age wards at VA hospitals. They are all on SS or SS disability,and the VA bills SS and writes off what SS doesn't pay.

Truth to tell,the VA even provides pensions for non-service connected disabled veterans with severe mental or physical problems that have no assets or job. It's not as much as you might wish it were,but it beats the hell out of nothing. You qualify for this program because you served and were honorably discharged. The cause of your illness or injury is irrelevant. I have a cousin whose former husband is locked away in a psych ward in one VA hospital,and he got out of the Navy after 4 years in perfect health and became a cop. Then he went to prison after he was caught humping his pre-teen daughter. Prison didn't treat him well,and he was a mental case when he got out,and pretty much went straight from prison to a VA psych ward in the same day. He will die there of old age if he hasn't already died.

The key to ALL VA benefits is your VA ID card. Apply for that tomorrow if you can. It is far better to have it and not need it than it is to need it and die while hospitals are arguing over who will admit you.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-26   16:55:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: CZ82 (#12)

Last time I called Primary Care at the base (WPAFB) they told me "9" days for an appointment for an ear ache, said forget it and hung up. Waited until 1500 hrs and went to the ER, not a soul in there got right in/out and prescription filled inside of an hour. Needless to say I don't call for an appointment anymore.

The active MTFs are like that too.

Post commander at Hood a few years ago asked why people were going to the ER for 'minor stuff.' He was quickly educated by military wives at a town hall meeting. It was ugly from what I heard. His poor aide was feverishly scribbling away.

Needless to say the general got it figured out.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-26   17:05:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: BobCeleste (#14)

How about the VA hospital in Amarillo?

Don't know much about it.

Here's a test. Make an appointment there a couple of days from arriving in Amarillo. See what happens. Tell them you are a cancer patient and need a follow up.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-26   17:08:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: BobCeleste (#15)

Excellent. So you know the 'numbers range.' If not the link I provided should get into it.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-26   17:09:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: calcon (#18)

Any advice would be very helpful.

apply, they now means test to see about your deductible, but you may be eligible for a couple of hundred a month for service in Nam.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-26   17:42:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: sneakypete (#19)

I have heard recently that the one in Hampton,Va is connected to a teaching college as well as being a government research center for diabetes treatment.

Thanks Pete, that's the stuff we need to get out.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-26   17:44:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete (#20)

My experience is to avoid doctors at VA hospitals with foreign accents. Especially Jamaican accents.

I agree.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-26   17:44:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: TEA Party Reveler (#23)

Which VA Medical Centers are best? Probably the ones in Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, Wyoming and Idaho. That's just a guess.

Let's Google it!

I can tell you that the hospital and staff in Albuquerque has got to be in the top two or three.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-26   17:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: redleghunter (#27)

Here's a test. Make an appointment there a couple of days from arriving in Amarillo. See what happens. Tell them you are a cancer patient and need a follow up.

It is the saddle blood clot in the artery feeding the two big veins in my lungs that has me concerned, not so much the cancer.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-26   17:50:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: BobCeleste, fred mertz, sneakypete (#29)

Thanks for the advice guys I was wondering. Not two worried right now cause my wife has a great job and excellent medical insurance. I've got to get ready for when she realizes she can do a lot better then a tired old man like me.

calcon  posted on  2015-02-26   18:05:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: TEA Party Reveler, Y'ALL (#23)

Which VA Medical Centers are best?

Palo Alto Hospital in Ca was rated the best, last time I looked, and I can verify that, as that's where I signed up about 10 years ago.

Two years ago I moved near Quincy, Ca and the Reno hospital seems all right (but overcrowded),--- while the Susanville Ca clinic is a joke.

tpaine  posted on  2015-02-26   19:53:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: tpaine (#35) (Edited)

"In the past three years, two Plumas County deputies found themselves in life-and-death situations that left them no choice but to use deadly force against an armed attacker.

Sheriff Greg Hagwood called the deputies’ actions “heroic” and said they likely saved the lives of innocent bystanders."

Looks like you live amongst some criminal animals. Friends of yours?

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-02-26   20:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: BobCeleste (#33)

Yes be careful on a long drive with that condition. Take your time and take rest stops to stretch and keep the blood flowing.

Did you get the truck squared away?

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-26   21:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: GrandIsland, spam, y'ALL (#36)

In the past three years, two Plumas County deputies found themselves in life-and-death situations that left them no choice but to use deadly force against an armed attacker. -- Sheriff Greg Hagwood called the deputies’ actions “heroic” and said they likely saved the lives of innocent bystanders." Looks like you live amongst some criminal animals. Friends of yours?

No they're not friends of mine. -- You got a link to that story though? - Sounds interesting..

BTW, - did you even bother to read the title of this tread? Are you a vet, and do you have something to say about our problems with the VA?

tpaine  posted on  2015-02-26   22:08:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: GrandIsland (#36)

Looks like you live amongst some criminal animals. Friends of yours?

Didn't I just see you post about 'no need to post as adversaries'?

tpaine  posted on  2015-02-26   23:12:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: tpaine (#39)

Didn't I just see you post about 'no need to post as adversaries'?

Yes. I mean it, too

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-02-26   23:45:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: redleghunter (#37)

Did you get the truck squared away?

Dan is letting us use his 2004 F150, much, much more comfortable than my old Diesel.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-27   12:18:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: BobCeleste (#41)

Dan is letting us use his 2004 F150

Good news. Will be riding in style:)

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-27   13:39:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: calcon (#18)

I have never applied for va medical benefits and was wondering how hard is it and do they handle just getting old.

Another benefit if you have the VA card you get discounts all over the shopping globe. For example, Lowe's and Home Depot give you an automatic 10% off. There are dozens and dozens of other businesses that have similar offers daily.

I just used it today at Home Depot. You have to ask at the checkout line and show them your card.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-02-27   16:02:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Fred Mertz (#43)

For example, Lowe's and Home Depot give you an automatic 10% off.

Also any active duty or retired ID card will get you the same discount. It seems to me Cabelas and Bass Pro Shops will do the 10% too. Speaking of BPS they are building a newer/bigger one in Cincy on 75 close to where 275 crosses.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-27   18:59:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: redleghunter (#26)

I wonder how much grief the Hospital commander caught from the Base Commander over his non-functioning policies?

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-27   19:14:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: CZ82 (#45)

LOL I think you know the answer.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-27   19:41:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: redleghunter (#42)

Will be riding in style

And comfort compared to my old 90 dodge pick up.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-28   16:20:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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