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Title: Dad hits back after ... 'false arrest' at school meeting --- over daughter's X-rated reading assignment
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Dad hits back after 'false arrest' at school meeting Spoke out against daughter's X-rated reading assignment Leo Hohmann Leo Hohmann is a news editor for WND. He has been a reporter and editor at several suburban newspapers in the Atlanta and Charlotte, North Carolina, areas and also served as managing editor of Triangle Business Journal in Raleigh, North Carolina. A New Hampshire man who was handcuffed and arrested for speaking his mind at a local school board meeting last year has filed a lawsuit against the police, alleging violations of his civil rights. The criminal charges against William Baer of Gilford, New Hampshire, were tossed out of court by Belknap County Judge James Carroll in December, as WND previously reported. Then-Acting Police Chief James Leach, who made the arrest, could have dropped the charges but elected not to, said Baer, who was arrested while addressing the board about a reading assignment given to his daughter’s ninth-grade class that included sexually explicit material. “Lieutenant Leach, and Police Chief (Anthony) Bean Burpee, both took an oath to support, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States,” Baer told WND. “Lieutenant Leach violated my rights when he silenced and arrested me, and Chief Bean Burpee continued to violate my rights by prosecuting me for nearly seven months. “These men abused their authority and their positions under color of law. The ‘law enforcers’ became lawbreakers and must be held to account.” Citizens exercising their First Amendment rights have been roughed up by police not just in New Hampshire in recent years. WND reported last year on the case of Eddie Overholt, a 76-year-old military veteran who was arrested at a Greene County, Tennessee, board of commissioners meeting because he stood up and requested that the board members speak louder so the audience could hear. Just last week another man, Jeffrey Clay, was arrested at an Alton, New Hampshire, city council meeting for asking his elected leaders to resign due to “poor actions” and “poor decisions,” the Manchester Union Leader reported. Press reports abound of other parents who attempted to address their local school boards about the controversial Common Core national education standards and ended up being ushered out, sometimes in handcuffs. In one such case, in Baltimore County, Maryland, a parent was approached by a burly security guard, pushed, shoved, threatened and eventually handcuffed and forced to leave the meeting, reported Examiner.com, which also published a video of the incident. Baer said his lawsuit is as much about stopping the national trend as it is seeking justice for himself. He said it’s time for elected leaders to stop trampling the First Amendment rights of citizens. The video of his arrest went viral on YouTube, attracting more than 1 million views. Baer spoke in opposition to a reading assignment given to his daughter, Marina. The book, “Nineteen Minutes,” by Jody Picoult, contained graphic descriptions of a violent sexual assault that, in Baer’s opinion, was not age-appropriate for a 14-year-old. The school officials said the book had “important themes” to be studied about a school shooting. Parents were not properly notified ahead of time about the assignment’s explicit content. Many concerned parents on both sides of the issue showed up at a tense May 5, 2014, school board meeting. Several news reporters and at least one videographer were also present, according to the local newspaper, the Laconia Daily Sun. Chairwoman Sue Allen opened public comment and limited each speaker to two minutes. The officer, Leach, was at the meeting, in uniform and initially standing off to one side, according to the Sun. Watch video of William Baer’s arrest below: Baer spoke for two minutes and was told by resident Joe Wernig that his time was up. Baer finished his thought and sat down. Wernig lives in Gilford and is a professional educator in a neighboring school district. Two others spoke and were followed by Wernig, who accused Baer and other parents of trying to “dictate” what his kids could and could not read. Baer interjected, without being recognized, that Wernig’s statement was false and he was told by Allen to respect other speakers. “Like you’re respectful of my daughter, right, and my children?” Baer told the chairwoman. Baer said the school’s actions were “ridiculous” and that those present were getting a “civics lesson” on the First Amendment. After a nod from Allen and Superintendent Kent Hemingway, Leach approached Baer and told him he was being asked to leave. He gave him no prior warning and Baer said, “I guess you’re gonna have to arrest me.” Leach removed Baer by grabbing his wrist and leading him from the meeting room, all of which was captured on video. He was taken outside, handcuffed and arrested. Leach did not respond to WND’s request for comment Wednesday. His boss, Gilford Police Chief Anthony Bean-Burpee, also did not return WND’s phone call. Baer said he may include others on the lawsuit, but for now it’s just Leach being sued. At the time of the incident, Leach was the acting police chief, Baer said, and answered to no one. “My inclination would have been to name everyone, and sort it out later. The attorneys representing me thought the action was primarily stemming from the false arrest,” he said. “If through discovery we find evidence that the school board/administration basically conspired to have me shut up at the meeting, we will add them as defendants.” Baer has retained former Rep. Charles Douglas III as his attorney. “Chuck Douglas was a U.S. congressman and served on the New Hampshire Supreme Court for 12 years,” Baer said. “This guy is a heavy hitter in New Hampshire. I picked him for very specific reasons so he could not just be looked at as some sort of ambulance chaser. When people see his name on the suit, they will know this thing is for real.” Baer said he is also being advised by Charlottesville, Virginia-based The Rutherford Institute, which defends Americans against government abuse and overreach. Marina Baer addressed the board after her father was arrested. “I just watched my father get arrested because he broke the two-minute rule at a board of education meeting,” she said. “This just shows you resort to force at the first turn of conflict and I’m appalled. “I don’t trust you. I haven’t. I honestly don’t feel safe around you people,” she said, before turning away to leave. Baer said in December that his life and the lives of his family had been thrown into disarray by the arrest. “After seven-and-a-half months of being pursued by the State of New Hampshire, through the Gilford Police Department and School Board, I am obviously pleased that all charges have been dismissed. Belknap County Judge James Carroll showed me there still is some justice in our system,” he said. He had been charged with three counts of disorderly conduct. “Make no mistake, these three criminal charges against me were not ‘dropped’ by Gilford Police Chief Bean Burpee and his prosecutor Sgt. Eric Bredbury; they were dismissed by a New Hampshire circuit court judge after a full hearing,” Baer said. “In spite of having months to review the law and the facts, the prosecutor refused to drop the charges or even propose a plea, but rather continued to seek a conviction to justify the state’s violation of my First Amendment right of free speech, and my unlawful arrest.” Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/02/dad-hits-back-after-false-arrest-at-school-meeting/#uQIde1MqrrL2Y2Lr.99
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#65. To: misterwhite (#6)
“Like you’re respectful of my daughter, right, and my children?” Baer told the chairwoman. If this is true, Baer reacted only when he was personally attacked. He's just suppose to sit there and be trashed? I'd have done the same thing as Baer. It was wise of the judge to throw out this bogus charge.
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No, what I'm suggesting is that his freedoms, liberties and daughter are NO MORE IMPORTANT than anyone else in the room. Without obeying the rules of the meeting, he forces his peers to lick his boots. He's a nazi thug. No drama... fact.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Sound like something you would propose doing. Is that the libertarian way, shoot people if they don't agree?
Not my call. That's a decision made by each parent. "Does it really teach “important themes”?" The school thought the book taught important lessons on bullying. "And since when should the 1A opinion of parents ..." He had his two minutes. Which was the rule of the meeting. But he wanted to dominate the meeting and not allow others THEIR 1A opinions to be heard.
And that's the lesson his daughter should have learned. YOU are not the only one with rights.
I challenge you to support that statement. He was allowed his two minutes, as was everyone else, to object to that "perverse agenda". He did. But then he wanted to dominate the debate at the expense of others who deserved their chance to express themselves. You're "Out of Order" for suggesting that HE should be allowed to violate the rules of the meeting to express an opinion you happen to agree with.
Just as he had ZILCH respect for other parents in the room who also wanted to be heard.
That book has been on the school reading list since 2007. Look up the definition of 'subversive'.
And that's the lesson his daughter should have learned. YOU are not the only one with rights. I think it's a lesson for those in LF that are so quick to spill that government blood to water their pot plants... the government IS NOT the only group of people that can reduce, limit or remove freedoms and liberties from the populace. Our PEERS can too... and that's why we have laws, rules and school board meeting regulations. Is daughter will ultimately grow up twice as ignorant as this tool bag... and probably feel twice as important as her daddy feels.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
The video I saw showed the other attendees urging the fascists to let him speak.
That isn't the lesson his daughter learned. This is Marina Baer addressing the same board a few minutes after her father's arrest. A very poised young girl under the circumstances, only 14. If I wasn't for the dad before, I would be after seeing that video. And so will any jury they can empanel in NH.
If you watch the beginning of the video, the parent simply says "these people" will be trying to dictate what his children can read. Baer was not mentioned by name. And if "these people" were being trashed, why didn't they also rise up and speak out? Here's the deal. The school has a policy of sending out notices to parents regading the reading materials. If the parents object to a book, they can "opt out". It's been that way for years. Baer objects to that policy. So you tell me, what does Baer want instead? The only thing I can think of is allowing "these people" to dictate what other children can read. No?
A few others agreeing with him is suppose to override the two-minute rule for others waiting to speak and have no time left to do so? Your observation is stupidly biased and your rational is grossly flawed.
The daughter defended her father the same way people defend Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown -- by distorting the facts. Her father was arrested because her father insisted on being arrested. He made it very clear on the video that an arrest was the only way to shut him up. In addition, he was not arrested for violating the two minute rule. Actually, he exceeded his two minutes but was allowed to finish his thought. It was only later in the meeting that he spoke up out of turn. He was asked, politely, not to interrupt. He refused. He was then arrested for disorderly conduct. Normally, I would applaud the daughter's support. But, in this case, it is misplaced loyalty.
Gol darnit, Mr. Gatlin, you use your tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore.
His observation is BIAS. He favors anything that butts heads with authority. Deckard is an anarchist. You will never conceptually reach an anarchist.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Baer already won that point. They have switched from the opt-out policy they had since 2008 to a strict opt-in policy. Parents have to sign off to allow their 14yo children to read books with explicit descriptions of a very violent rape. Of course, you can side with the make-'em-read-about-rape-unless-their-parents-object-in-writing faction but that is a very lonely position. And keep in mind, they had already violated the board's own written policy by failing to send out the required notices. Schools are governed by superintendents day-to-day but it is the board that produces the policy book. In fact, writing policy and passing budgets and hiring/firing a superintendent is all that most boards ever do or can do. They also play a role in salary negotiation and in any legal proceedings.
Again, it wasn't the case of a trial and him being found innocent. Charges didn't even go THAT far. Ergo, the court disagreed that he should have been arrested. So "arrest" is now suitable not just for when an offence was likely committed, but also now simply as a preventive measure. That's your message. Being asked to do something by a cop is not a lawful order. Compliance with requests is voluntary, without concern of punishment, on its face. You are doing a good job of degrading the so-called profession. People are simply not going to respect police that carry on like that. And people don't listen to requests OR demands from those they do not respect.
Arrest is based on PC. Show me were the court stated there wasn't enough "PC" for the arrest. The court simply dropped the charges.... after MONTHS of legal bartering. Many things were considered to decide to drop this charge... things that this forum are not considering. I can guarantee you, lack of "PC" wasn't one of them. Disobeying the police because YOU don't respect them in general, is a slippery slope. No different than me, as a police officer, not arresting someone that victimized YOU... because in general, I have no respect for you.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
But that wasn't his point at the meeting. He objected to the book, not the opt out policy. "you can side with the make-'em-read-about-rape-unless-their-parents-object-in-writing faction" Opting out or opting in wasn't the issue here. He objected to the book. "And keep in mind, they had already violated the board's own written policy by failing to send out the required notices." Bingo! That was what it should have been about. Had Baer been notified, he would have been able to act how he saw fit. Even under the old "opt out" criteria. He should have limited his two minutes to, "I should have been notified and I wasn't". Period. Instead, he went on and on about the book. The notification policy has been in place for 8 years and it has worked just fine. One time the school screws up and forgets. The school admitted their mistake and switched to an "opt in" policy (which protects against future forgetfulness).
That's why I've wasted little time on that fact. Because this tool bag would have acted like a Ferguson citizen regardless if he was notified. He's the most important, constitutionally violated, person he knows.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
So by dismissing the charges, you think the court was simply disagreeing with the arrest? You think Baer should have been allowed to continue to disrupt the proceedings? Or do you think a cop should be allowed to remove someone from a meeting with no legal justification? Baer himself said that the only way to shut him up was to arrest him. Meaning he would have just walked right back in to the room. The charges were dismissed because arrest itself solved the problem. That's all the dismissal meant.
He violated the rule. Then he was continually interruptive and became disruptive. He would not stop and was asked to leave. He refused to leave. All courteous methods to get him under control so the meeting could continue as planned failed. That type of inconsiderate selfish action appears to be okay with libertarians. You are doing a good job of representing libertarians. I completely agree with you on this point.
That's because in general, they are the most important, constitutionally violated people they know. This causes them to lose site of how their unlawful actions removes freedoms and liberties from other peers.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Hey, I'm not saying it's a good idea. I'm saying it's the real life consequence of promoting the attitude you're promoting here. Respect must be earned. And if the police want respect, they need to earn it just like everyone else. Unfortunately, the profession attracts too many people that get a high over, literally, throwing their weight around. If true, then there won't be a civil trial.
Of course this is hogwash.
We can agree to disagree. Cops with big egos tend to be a little heavy handed or unreasonable.. SAME IS TRUE WITH COP HATERS.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
TYPICAL INCIDENT Parent Arrested from Common Core Meeting in Baltimore County MD. Removed forcefully by fascist School Board bouncer/thug/security before articulating his germane question and point. (I guess his 120 seconds were up) Law Enforcement is aiding and abetting tyranny.
Let me ask you again: OR....will you merely accept and swallow your kid's psychological abuse and forcibly reading smut until the next school board election?
This is a father that was acting in the best interests of his daughter. Your suggesting that interest take a back seat to slightly passionate expression in regards to a very valid cause is much like the problematic attitude among police that is giving them a bad name... Bravo! Well articulated and directly ON point. These cops and bouncers are hired goons. The Bill of Rights takes a deeeep back seat to their tainted checks and pensions.
Major Frank Burns weighs in with the usual "respect ma authoritah" schtick.
HA! (Gilligan would gladly comply if it meant a burial at Arlington) Gatlin believes there should be a law....that restricts "all law-abiding Amerikans" to "four squares per day" (and I'm NOT talking about meals.) Enforced by cameras, Charmin registration, and uniformed cops patrolling the hallways of every bathroom "o'er the land."
According to the rabid Police Statists, YES. NO morals, ethics, common sense, or Bill of Rights supersedes the "authoritah" of "state officials" The local politburo vill NOT tolerate insolent questions from its bleating citizenry. Ergo, they must be trashed, ridiculed, and summarily tossed out of any meeting before the charade and agenda is exposed....at the barrel of a gun, threat of cuffs and broken bones. "A Republic"?? HAH!
You seem to have spun the entire embarrassing incident like a top and are now creating mythical heroes and martyrs out of the fascist oppressors and promoters of smut. If there are any boots that are licked, we know who is doing the licking and demanding others follow suit. Well played, Sarge. Also can't help but notice how easily the word "obey" also flows out of your maw....
Heh -- that's always been a keeper.
Not my call. That's a decision made by each parent. Not your call?? LOL -- have you won many Blue Ribbons at bleating marathons? I guess you'd have the same answer were smutty book mandatory reading for your 8 year-old, eh? Nice moral compass there, DeSoto. The school thought the book taught important lessons on bullying. Really?? I guess rapes scenarios are the MOST important lesson, huh? He had his two minutes. Which was the rule of the meeting. What was the "rule" that was broken for the "Opt-out" of reading this trash? What is the penalty for school board members who conveniently ignored THAT responsibility and obligation? How many "minutes" did it take them to correct their "oversight"?? *snicker*
The movie version was so much better.
Negative. You are so agenda blind, that you forget that more than government can steal freedoms and liberties from your peers.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Like this is the first time he's heard that little compliment.
It's "rationale" you jibbering tool.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestTwo others spoke and were followed by Wernig, who accused Baer and other parents of trying to “dictate” what his kids could and could not read. Baer interjected, without being recognized, that Wernig’s statement was false and he was told by Allen to respect other speakers.
#66. To: Pinguinite (#62)
You're still missing the point; You can't be surrendering to fascist boards of education with NO legal, moral, or ethical grounds for subverting and indoctrinating the pods.
#67. To: TooConservative (#64)
(Edited)
We could shoot people as dumb as you and that would...
#68. To: Liberator (#10)
"Do YOU believe this subject matter is "age-appropriate"?"
#69. To: GrandIsland (#21)
"He violated the liberties and freedoms of every one of his peers in that room."
#70. To: Liberator (#23)
"ANY objection to a perverse agenda and mandatory inappropriateness of minors is "Out of order".
#71. To: Liberator (#25)
"The LEO treated him with ZILCH respect"
#72. To: Liberator (#48)
"The board of education advanced a subversive agenda, and was caught doing so."
#73. To: misterwhite (#69)
#74. To: GrandIsland (#66)
Without obeying the rules of the meeting, he forces his peers to lick his boots. He's a nazi thug.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#75. To: misterwhite, GrandIsland (#69)
And that's the lesson his daughter should have learned. YOU are not the only one with rights.
#76. To: no gnu taxes (#65)
"If this is true, Baer reacted only when he was personally attacked. He's just suppose to sit there and be trashed?"
#77. To: Deckard GrandIsland (#74)
The video I saw showed the other attendees urging the fascists to let him speak.
#78. To: TooConservative, GrandIsland (#75)
#79. To: Gatlin (#77)
"Your observation is stupidly biased and your rational is grossly flawed."
#80. To: Gatlin, Deckard (#77)
Your observation is stupidly biased and your rational is grossly flawed.
#81. To: misterwhite (#76)
(Edited)
Here's the deal. The school has a policy of sending out notices to parents regading the reading materials. If the parents object to a book, they can "opt out". It's been that way for years.
#82. To: Gatlin (#63)
Of course the charges would be dropped unless be became violent.
#83. To: Pinguinite (#82)
You are doing a good job of degrading the so-called profession. People are simply not going to respect police that carry on like that. And people don't listen to requests OR demands from those they do not respect.
#84. To: TooConservative (#81)
"Baer already won that point. They have switched from the opt-out policy"
#85. To: misterwhite (#84)
He should have limited his two minutes to, "I should have been notified and I wasn't". Period. Instead, he went on and on about the book.
#86. To: Pinguinite (#82)
"Ergo, the court disagreed that he should have been arrested."
#87. To: Pinguinite (#82)
(Edited)
You are doing a good job of degrading the so-called profession.
And people don't listen to requests OR demands from those they do not respect.
#88. To: Gatlin (#87)
That type of inconsiderate selfish action appears to be okay with libertarians.
#89. To: GrandIsland (#83)
Disobeying the police because YOU don't respect them in general, is a slippery slope.
I can guarantee you, lack of "PC" wasn't one of them.
#90. To: GrandIsland (#88)
That's because in general, they are the most important, constitutionally violated people they know. This causes them to lose site of how their unlawful actions removes freedoms and liberties from other peers.
#91. To: Pinguinite (#90)
Of course this is hogwash.
#92. To: ALL (#0)
#93. To: GrandIsland (#61)
ARE you gonna stand by as a father as the school teaches communism, and transvestism 101, as LEOs and school board bouncers restrict and oppress your right as a moral, taxpaying parent?
#94. To: Pinguinite, GrandIsland (#62)
That's the exact same attitude that's given us the Nazi brown shirt zero tolerance environment that your type would have imposed on everyone world over.
#95. To: Gatlin (#63)
#96. To: TooConservative, Gatlin (#64)
We could shoot people as dumb as you and that would solve it but anarcho-libertarians are firmly committed to the non-aggression principle. Which is probably why you fear them so much.
#97. To: no gnu taxes (#65)
(Edited)
Baer reacted only when he was personally attacked. He's just suppose to sit there and be trashed?
#98. To: Liberator, Gatlin (#95)
Major Frank Burns weighs in with the usual "respect ma authoritah" schtick.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#99. To: GrandIsland, Pinguinite (#66)
What I'm suggesting is that his freedoms, liberties and daughter are NO MORE IMPORTANT than anyone else in the room. Without obeying the rules of the meeting, he forces his peers to lick his boots. He's a nazi thug.
#100. To: Deckard (#98)
#101. To: misterwhite (#68)
Do YOU believe this subject matter is "age-appropriate"?"
#102. To: Deckard (#98)
Feel free to use this Major Burns:
#103. To: Liberator (#99)
ou seem to have spun the entire embarrassing incident like a top and are now creating mythical heroes and martyrs out of the fascist oppressors and promoters of smut.
#104. To: misterwhite (#79)
Gol darnit, Mr. Gatlin, you use your tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore.
#105. To: Gatlin (#77)
your rational
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
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