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Title: Sheriff that Laughed about Flash Banging a Toddler, Was Just Shot By Murderous Rogue Cop
Source: The Free Thought Project
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/ka ... rogue-cop/#Km9MHIbCtAYz4sek.99
Published: Feb 24, 2015
Author: John Vibes
Post Date: 2015-02-24 13:34:11 by Hondo68
Keywords: None
Views: 23307
Comments: 65

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Habersham County, GA — Sheriff Joey Terrell and one of his deputies were shot and injured while responding to a domestic violence complaint that involved another officer.

Terrell has been the subject of a number of reports at The Free Thought Project, because he is the law enforcement official who authorized the “no knock raid” that maimed and nearly killed a young toddler. Terrell then later broke a promise to pay the family’s medical bills when he left them to take care of it on their own.

On Sunday, Sheriff Terrell and Deputy William Zigan were dispatched to a domestic disturbance that involved former Gainesville city police officer Anthony Giaquinta. Giaquinta was recently fired from his job at the Gainesville Police Department, but as of now the reason for his termination is unknown.

When police arrived on the scene, they found Giaquinta’s ex-wife dead in the garage of the home.

The suspect then shot both Terrell and Zigan, then fled the scene and began a search that ended just before midnight, when police found the bodies of two men, including Anthony Giaquinta.

“As EMS and law enforcement arrived, he started shooting at Habersham County Sheriff’s deputies. Two have been wounded. At this point, it doesn’t appear serious,” Capt. Mark Perry with the Georgia State Patrol said in a statement.

It has not been revealed who the other person was, and no details about the circumstances of their deaths have been released to the public.

Sheriff Terrell and Deputy William Zigan are expected to make a full recovery from their injuries.


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#1. To: hondo68 (#0) (Edited)

Well if the babies dad won't do anything.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-24   14:02:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: hondo68 (#0)

Terrell then later broke a promise to pay the family’s medical bills when he left them to take care of it on their own.

Just another lying POS cop.

I can't seem to muster any sympathy for the thug.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-02-24   14:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#0)

LOL! Good riddance porker pig cop.

When you guys post these porker pig stories, make sure you keyword / label them as ''Sons of Gatlin and GrandIsland''......LOL!

TEA Party Reveler  posted on  2015-02-24   15:05:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Deckard (#2)

That p-i-g pig porker looks like SA leader Ernst Rohm or something.

TEA Party Reveler  posted on  2015-02-24   15:08:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: GrandIsland, Gatlin, misterwhite (#0)

Hmm, cops on both sides. Which side do you take?

A Pole  posted on  2015-02-24   15:13:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A Pole (#5)

Terrell has been the subject of a number of reports at The Free Thought Project, because he is the law enforcement official who authorized the “no knock raid”

I take no side. Not with any info based on FTP journalism.

They erroneously state that the officer authorized the no-knock... when anyone that has a single digit IQ knows that a judge signs the warrant that authorizes the entry.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-02-24   15:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: GrandIsland (#6)

"Hmm, cops on both sides. Which side do you take?"

I take no side

What I expected. If cops were only on one side, you would side with cops.

A Pole  posted on  2015-02-24   17:09:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A Pole (#5)

"Hmm, cops on both sides. Which side do you take?"

In this case, I'm taking the cop's side.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-02-24   17:12:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A Pole (#7) (Edited)

That's a false statement.... and you have zero to base it on.

But that's the kind of freedom and liberty you like best, the freedom and liberty to talk shit. lol

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-02-24   17:17:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A Pole, GrandIsland, misterwhite (#5)

Hmm, cops on both sides. Which side do you take?

I find no evidence the Sheriff laughed at the incident. I find a report to the contrary that he and his department are remorseful. I also find a report where the child’s playpen was pushed against the door to block the raid. I have idea if the report posted below is correct or not. I do however place absolutely no faith in anything TFP publishes. Let the family sue the Sheriff so that all information will come out in a court of law so a jury can decide what was right or wrong. That is the American way….judging someone based on a yellow journalism article is not.

Child burned by distraction device during raid

CLARKESVILLE - Habersham County Sheriff Joey Terrell now is talking about the high-risk warrant service that resulted in burns to a 2-year-old child early Wednesday.

The child was burned when narcotics agents, assisted by members of the Habersham Special Response Team, used a distraction device as they entered a home at 182 Lakeview Heights Circle outside Cornelia.

"We had prior information on it," Terrell said of the circumstances of the home and its occupants. "The individual had been involved in an altercation with another male involving a possible AK-47 [rifle] several months ago, and he was arrested on some weapons charges. Supposedly that was about drugs."

Terrell said agents followed standard procedure prior to obtaining a search warrant and planning the raid.

"When we did surveillance on the house, there were two guards standing guard at the door ... like they weren't letting anybody in," Terrell said. "We did make the buy out of the house. We took that information, along with our other information, and went to see the judge and got a warrant."

Terrell said the drug buy was made late Tuesday, but it was early Wednesday before the warrant could be obtained and served.

>b?"Our team captain asked the normal questions - is there children?" Terrell said. "If there's children involved in a house, we do not use any kind of distraction devices in those houses. We just don't take the chance on it."

But there were no indications of children in the home.

"According to the confidential informant, there were no children," Terrell said. "When they made the buy, they didn't see any children or any evidence of children there, so we proceeded with our standard operation."

Because of recent history with the individual involved in the alleged drug sales and knowledge of weapons in the residence, the special agent seeking the search warrant requested a "no-knock" warrant, Terrell said.

Mountain Judicial Circuit Narcotics Criminal Investigation and Suppression Team agents obtained a search warrant for the residence, with the no knock entry provision approved by Habersham County Chief Magistrate Judge Jim Butterworth.

"Due to the previous information regarding assault-type weapons at the residence, the information regarding adult male subjects standing 'guard' in front of the residence, the fact that there was no safe way to approach the residence without being detected, the possibility of the destruction of evidence, and Wanis Thonetheva's criminal history which reflected charges of possession of a firearm during the commission of a felony and several charges of carrying a concealed weapon, agents contacted the Habersham County Sheriff's Office [Special Response Team] unit to assist with the execution of the search warrant and the securing of the residence," a report provided by Terrell states.

The three-bedroom, two-bath house is a single story with enclosed garage.

"We check the door; if it's unlocked we enter," Terrell said. "The door was locked, so they breached the door. There was an obstruction at the door. They tossed a 'flash bang'. Our team leader has been through the school on the use of the flash bangs - the distraction devices - is the only way we can even purchase them. We have to have a license, he has to go through the training."

Terrell said the training teaches officers to only throw the device three to five feet inside the door, to protect the occupants.

"He taught our team members how to do it," Terrell said. "They breached the door and one member tossed the device in, then we entered the room."

During the entry is when the child was burned.

"What had happened was there was a playpen - a Pack N Play - that was pushed up against the door, and when they breached the door it wouldn't open up because of the Pack N Play," Terrell said. "It was just wide enough to toss the flash bang in, then they had to physically push it [Pack N Play] on out of the way to get in. That's when the team medics saw the child, stopped at the child, took the child out and began first aid."

A waiting ambulance, which was standing by a short distance away, was called to transport the child.

"The door that we entered was the door that we bought dope out of - that's why entered at that door," Terrell said. "Our team went by the book. Given the same scenario, we'll do the same thing again. I stand behind what our team did."

The Habersham Special Response Team is a combination of sheriff's deputies and Cornelia police officers.

"We keep asking ourselves, 'how did this happen?'," Terrell said. "No one can answer that - you can't answer that. You try and do everything right. Bad things can happen. That's just the world we live in. Bad things happen to good people.

"The baby didn't deserve this," Terrell said. "The family didn't deserve this - this family was displaced from another home down here and apparently just moved in with her."

Terrell said both the district attorney and Georgia Bureau of Investigation have said there was no wrongdoing on the SRT's part.

"I've talked to the D.A., I've talked to the GBI," Terrell said. "I've given them the whole information and they say there's nothing else we can do. There's nothing to investigate, there's nothing to look at. Given the information given, GBI's SWAT team would have done the exact same thing - they'd have used the exact same scenario to enter the house."

Terrell said the lack of knowledge that there were children in the home contributed to the situation.

"It's an accident that we would have avoided if we'd just had any inclination that there had a been a child in that house," Terrell said. "We had no idea."

Terrell said officers learned later the children were kept hidden and out of sight in the home.

"Even talking with the mother afterward, they knew that there was some things going on in the house and they tried to keep the children separated from and hid from the occupants of the house because they knew that they were - from what she told the agents, they knew they were selling drugs, so they tried to keep the children separated from that," Terrell said.

While Terrell said the sheriff's office takes ownership of its decision to enter the home, that was necessitated by the man who was selling drugs there.

"The person I blame in this whole thing is the person selling the drugs," Terrell said. "Wanis Thonetheva, that's the person I blame in all this. They are no better than a domestic terrorist, because they don't care about families - they didn't care about the family, the children living in that household - to be selling dope out of it, to be selling methamphetamine out of it. All they care about is making money.

"They don't care about what it does to families," Terrell said. "It's domestic terrorism and I think we should treat them as such. I don't know where we can go with that, but that's my feelings on it. It just makes me so angry! I get so mad that they don't care about what they do, they don't care about the families or the people they're selling to."

The child, born in October 2012, suffered burns to his right side. The pillow the child was lying on was burned, and the device created a hole in the plastic side of the Pack N Play.

"I don't think they cover a significant amount of the face or the chest, that's the two areas, but there are some areas that they're doing surgery on," Terrell said. "I believe they're going to be doing some skin grafts."

Terrell and his officers are taking the incident hard.

"It's heart-wrenching," Terrell said. "Our prayers and our thoughts go out to the family. Yesterday was a grieving day - it was a grieving day for all of us. We didn't do a press release on it yesterday, because I just don't know that I could have done a press release on it yesterday. I couldn't talk about the scenario without crying - just grieving for that child and grieving for that family."

Terrell said the officer who threw the device "is basically upside down. He's gone and talked to his pastor, trying to get some counseling and some debriefing just to help him get through what has happened."

But even with this tragic event, Terrell said his officers will continue to perform their duties.

"We can't stop," Terrell said. "We're called for a purpose. The members of this team want to be here."

Likewise, SRT members are committed to their duties.

"Our team leader, Matt Wurtz, told me this yesterday - we talked several times - in the trembling of his voice, he said he started working with a dog, he started working in dope, and he wanted to start this team because children are getting involved in situations they don't need to be," Terrell said. "We're getting more and more information about children, 14-15 years of age, getting into methamphetamine. Who is going to stand up for them? Who is going to do the right thing? We are! We are! And we are not going to stop what we do."

Terrell said officers must continue to enforce the law.

"We hate that this happened," Terrell said. "This tears our soul out, but we cannot stop standing up and being the thin blue line against those who don't care about, who want to do the domestic terrorism and sell dope and make the money. We're still going to stand between them and still do our job - we've got to."

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-24   17:45:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Gatlin (#10)

I find no evidence the Sheriff laughed at the incident.

Was the journalism a little Yella?

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-02-24   18:02:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Gatlin, A Pole, GrandIsland, Deckard, *Bill of Rights-Constitution* (#10)

Terrell said the sheriff's office takes ownership of its decision to enter the home

"We can't stop," Terrell said.

The Sheriff admits that he authorized the raid. The judge merely authorized entry, not throwing bombs at babies.

And he's ready to do it again to the next baby , and blame the infant for living on the wrong side of the tracks.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-02-24   18:07:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: hondo68 (#12)

The Sheriff admits that he authorized the raid. The judge merely authorized entry,

You can't "raid" without "ENTRY". Nice spin tho.

lol

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-02-24   18:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: GrandIsland, Spin not working (#13) (Edited)

The Sheriff ran the raid not the judge. Judge is judicial (paper pusher) branch, LEO's are executive (action).

The sheriff authorized the actions taken during the raid.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-02-24   18:24:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: hondo68 (#14) (Edited)

The Sheriff ran the raid not the judge. Judge is judicial (paper pusher) branch, LEO's are executive (action).

The sheriff authorized the actions taken during the raid.

Yes, and the raid never takes place without the JUDGE allowing them entry via a signed warrant. That's not "merely" spinning the truth... that's fact.

Give it up... your spin was exposed.

Better yet, tell the people of this forum why you want to remove all culpability from the judge? Because your agenda is ONLY to make LE look bad?

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-02-24   18:31:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: GrandIsland (#15)

Give it up... your spin was exposed.

When the SWAT team hit the home's front door with a battering ram, it resisted as if something was up against it, the sheriff said, so one of the officers threw the flash-bang grenade inside the residence. Once inside the house, the SWAT team realized it was a portable playpen blocking the door, and the flash-bang grenade had landed inside where the 19-month-old was sleeping, the sheriff said.

A playpen with a baby inside was used to block the door during the raid.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-24   18:45:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: hondo68 (#0)

I was all excited to read about the good news,and then I discovered the SOB didn't die.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-24   18:49:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: GrandIsland (#6)

They erroneously state that the officer authorized the no-knock... when anyone that has a single digit IQ knows that a judge signs the warrant that authorizes the entry.

They obviously meant that he gave departmental permission to request a no-knock warrant from a judge,but that is what they should have reported so the "low understanding" crowd could get a clue.

I have zero sympathy for any cop that requests or goes on a no-knock raid in America. IMHO,they deserve anything that happens to them.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-24   18:53:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Gatlin (#10)

Let the family sue the Sheriff so that all information will come out in a court of law so a jury can decide what was right or wrong. That is the American way…

No,"The American Way" is you knock on the freaking door and present your warrant.

Things like "no knock warrants" are the Soviet and Nazi Way,not the American Way.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-24   18:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Gatlin (#16)

A playpen with a baby inside was used to block the door during the raid.

And in YOUR deranged mind that justifies setting a baby on fire?

Nice to know where your priorities lie,comrade.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-24   18:56:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: sneakypete (#19)

Things like "no knock warrants" are the Soviet and Nazi Way,not the American Way.

But you have to remember we have a bunch of low IQ personnel in police forces nowadays who are scared of their own shadows, shoot first and don't even ask questions later.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-24   19:01:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: GrandIsland (#13) (Edited)

Correction:

You can't raid without dynamic "ENTRY"

goldilucky  posted on  2015-02-24   19:07:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Gatlin (#16)

A playpen with a baby inside was used to block the door during the raid.

What's a little collateral damage, eh? Admit it -- you LOVED Waco.

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-24   20:06:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Liberator (#23)

To: Gatlin Admit it -- you LOVED Waco.

Hahaha!!

Remember the thread from LP where Gatlin, misterwhite, and GrandIsland ALL defended Janet Reno?

That thread was a classic in exposing just how horrible humans these canaries are.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-02-24   20:55:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Dead Culture Watch (#24)

Remember the thread from LP where Gatlin, misterwhite, and GrandIsland ALL defended Janet Reno?

That thread was a classic in exposing just how horrible humans these canaries are.

I can't believe I wasn't there... But I have no memory of that..

Maybe it's Alzheimer's?

tpaine  posted on  2015-02-24   21:03:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: tpaine, Mother Gatlin (#25)

Janet Reno, the butcher of Waco.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-02-24   22:48:01 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: hondo68 (#26)

Actually, the blame for the Branch Davidian massacre lays at GHBush; he laid the ground work before the Clinton administration.

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-02-24   22:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Pridie.Nones (#27)

Ya, he drove the tank into the grounds with a flag fluttering from the antenna that said 'mission accomplished', hahaha!!

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-02-24   23:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: CZ82 (#21)

But you have to remember we have a bunch of low IQ personnel in police forces nowadays who are scared of their own shadows, shoot first and don't even ask questions later.

Then maybe they should be fired and get jobs as unarmed security guards?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-24   23:14:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Gatlin (#16)

A playpen with a baby inside was used to block the door during the raid.

So the family was expecting the raid in the middle of the night? The whole point of a no-knock is to catch people by surprise.

Sometimes space in family homes is tight.

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-02-25   11:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Pinguinite (#30) (Edited)

Sometimes space in family homes is tight.

It was a three-bedroom, two-bath single story house with enclosed garage.
There was a man, woman and three children inside.

With that much space, why would they place the playpen to block the door?

So the family was expecting the raid in the middle of the night?

A drug dealer must expect a no knock raid 24 hours of the day.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-25   11:48:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Gatlin, Pinguinite (#31)

Let's face facts, it was an unfortunate incident. There was no INTENT to harm any child.

This child is being used by the pro drug movement like the anti gun movement parades the drooling, slurring Gabrielle Gifford around to propaganda events.

It's actually despicable how low some on this forum sink to shovel their brand of activism.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-02-25   12:19:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: GrandIsland, gatlin, Y'ALL (#32)

A drug dealer must expect a no knock raid 24 hours of the day. ---- Gatlin

It's actually despicable how low some on this forum sink to shovel their brand of activism. --- GrandIsland

Is grandisland supporting gatlin, or criticizing him?

tpaine  posted on  2015-02-25   12:28:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Gatlin, GrandIsland, tpaine, Pinguinite (#31)

A drug dealer must expect a no knock raid 24 hours of the day.

The so-called "drug dealer" did not even live at the house.

No drugs or guns were found in the house.

No charges for officers in botched drug raid that disfigured toddler

A Habersham County grand jury has decided not to charge any of the law enforcement officers involved in the botched drug raid that disfigured a toddler.

Nineteen-month-old Bounkham “Bou Bou” Phonesavanh’s nose was detached from his face after a stun grenade landed in his playpen during the raid, carried out by a Habersham SWAT team in May. According to an incident report obtained from the Habersham sheriff’s office, deputies were told to anticipate a cache of weapons and armed guards at the home.

A search inside turned up neither guns nor drugs. Wanis Thonetheva, who didn’t even live at the house, was arrested later that day without incident and charged only with possession of methamphetamine.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-02-25   12:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: GrandIsland (#32)

This child is being used by the pro drug movement

Apparently you are unfamiliar with the case.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-02-25   12:36:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: tpaine (#33)

Is grandisland supporting gatlin, or criticizing him?

Neither. I'm putting forth my own opinion.

The whole subject is despicable

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-02-25   12:38:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: GrandIsland (#32)

Let's face facts, it was an unfortunate incident. There was no INTENT to harm any child.

Oh, is that what they are calling it nowdays, just an "unfortunate incident"?

A better term would be willful negligence at the least.

They knew a child was in the home, toys were scattered in the yard.

A serf pulling this shit would spend decades behind bars.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-02-25   12:42:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Deckard (#37)

A serf pulling this shit would spend decades behind bars.

A surf doesn't enforce laws and request warrants to be signed by judges. Is this slanted, bias garbage part of your "years and years of posted material" on LP or LF as your researched, scientific research, you were talking about?

Nice spin and propaganda. I'm surprised you don't pay the child's parents to rent the child for a day and parade it around.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-02-25   13:03:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: GrandIsland (#38) (Edited)

A surf doesn't enforce laws and request warrants to be signed by judges.

The point is, why are the police not held accountable for their actions?

I notice that you ignored the fact that toys were scattered in the yard as the badged thugs began their SWAT raid.

And still you want to claim that this was just an "unfortunate incident".

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-02-25   13:07:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: GrandIsland, says Gatlin is sinking low, and despicable? (#36) (Edited)

Is grandisland supporting gatlin, or criticizing him?

Neither. I'm putting forth my own opinion. --- The whole subject is despicable.

So in your opinion, gatlin is also sinking low, and despicable?

tpaine  posted on  2015-02-25   13:10:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Deckard (#34)

The so-called "drug dealer" did not even live at the house.

A drug buy was initiated inside the house. The buy informant said there were guards at the door. The police had seen guards at the door during their recon observation. The person making the buy was asked if there were children in the house, he said he had seen none. There were no toys or anything to indicate that children were in the house.

They placed the child sleeping in the playpen blocking to block the door in a three bedroom, two bath house with an attached garage. It is unfortunate the child was hurt....I place the blame on the adults in the house for this.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-25   13:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Deckard (#39)

I notice that you ignored the fact that toys were scattered in the yard as the badged thugs began their SWAT raid.

So "she" said. The police said there were none.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-25   13:30:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Deckard (#37)

Oh, is that what they are calling it nowdays, just an "unfortunate incident"?

A better term would be willful negligence at the least.

They knew a child was in the home, toys were scattered in the yard.

A serf pulling this shit would spend decades behind bars.

Exactly!

Any innocent who get killed by over zealous cops acting out Rambo fantasies are written off as victims of circumstance. And the police won't even allocate funds for the baby's medical bills.

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-02-25   13:45:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Gatlin (#42)

So "she" said. The police said there were none.

Going from memory, I believe the photos plainly showed there were many.

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-02-25   13:46:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Deckard, GrandIsland (#39)

The point is, why are the police not held accountable for their actions?

In this case, a grand jury composed of members from the community heard all evidence available and decided there were not charges to be made against the police...THAT IS WHY!!!

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-25   13:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Gatlin (#41)

They placed the child sleeping in the playpen blocking to block the door in a three bedroom, two bath house with an attached garage. It is unfortunate the child was hurt....I place the blame on the adults in the house for this.

Clearly they should have anticipated the police lobbing grenades into the house....?!?!?!

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-02-25   13:48:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Pinguinite (#44)

So "she" said. The police said there were none.

Going from memory, I believe the photos plainly showed there were many.

I didn't see those photos....I will look again.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-25   13:48:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: sneakypete (#29)

That might not be a bad idea cause they couldn't really do much of anything else with what little training they get, heck a hairdresser gets more training than they do.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-25   14:27:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Gatlin (#41) (Edited)

A drug buy was initiated inside the house. The buy informant said there were guards at the door.

The informant lied.

An unnamed petty criminal who acted as an informant told Terrell’s task force that drug commerce had occurred at the targeted residence in Cornelia, and that armed men were acting as “guards.” However, the stormtroopers found no drugs in the house. The suspect they sought wasn’t present when the raiders kicked in the door.

The so-called "dealer" hadn't even lived in the house for weeks.

The person making the buy was asked if there were children in the house, he said he had seen none. There were no toys or anything to indicate that children were in the house.

There were toys scattered all over the yard.

I place the blame on the adults in the house for this.

Yeah, they were the ones who disfigured their child.

Good god man, have you no shame?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-02-25   14:40:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Gatlin (#42)

The police said there were none.

Attaboy!

Everyone else has asserted that toys were scattered all over the yard, yet you with your cop worshiping sickness believe their story.

In May, the Habersham County Special Response Team executed a no-knock drug raid on the home of a family friend where Baby Bou Bou, his parents, and sisters were staying. It was the middle of the night, and even though the family's minivan was parked in the driveway and children's toys were in the yard, a squad of SWAT officers decided to throw a flashbang grenade into the living room.

I guess you can’t expect cops to notice something like that in the middle of a late-night drug raid. Besides, they could have been decoys.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-02-25   14:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Deckard, sneakypete (#50)

I guess you can’t expect cops to notice something like that in the middle of a late-night drug raid. Besides, they could have been decoys.

Maybe they thought they were Claymores??

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-25   15:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Dead Culture Watch (#28)

Actually, GHBush laid the planning and budget for the later operations that were carried out by the next presidency; this is why you don't see any "change" within any administration with the the complete singular exception that there is never any change.

American government may identify an issue but, it kicks the can down the road.

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-02-25   23:29:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Dead Culture Watch (#24)

Hahaha!!

Remember the thread from LP where Gatlin, misterwhite, and GrandIsland ALL defended Janet Reno?

That thread was a classic in exposing just how horrible humans these canaries are.

Yeah. THAT was pathetic. I may be wrong, but Gatlin may have even broken a couple of condoms during that thread...bwaahaa...

(The archives are still somewhere at LP, aren't they? Keywords: "Reno," "WACO," "Canaries"?)

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-26   2:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Liberator (#53)

may be wrong, but Gatlin may have even broken a couple of condoms during that thread...bwaahaa...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-26   8:34:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: sneakypete (#17)

I was all excited to read about the good news,and then I discovered the SOB didn't die.

It was a letdown. I guess children and infants in the area are marginally safer as long as he remains out of action.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-26   11:10:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Pinguinite (#43)

And the police won't even allocate funds for the baby's medical bills.

My guess is their lawyers are expecting an inevitable lawsuit and that they will end up paying anyway.

I doubt you could get any of them to even discuss it again, prior to the resolution of the lawsuit. Any lawyer would salivate over this case. It's a sure-winner with any jury anywhere in the country.

I think this family won't be homeless for long.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-26   11:13:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Deckard (#50)

Everyone else

Who?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-26   18:31:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Deckard (#49) (Edited)

The so-called "dealer" hadn't even lived in the house for weeks.

Didn't meant that he wasn't there on the afternoon before the raid, or someone else was selling drugs.

"When we did surveillance on the house, there were two guards standing guard at the door ... like they weren't letting anybody in," Terrell said. "We did make the buy out of the house. We took that information, along with our other information, and went to see the judge and got a warrant."

Terrell said the drug buy was made late Tuesday, but it was early Wednesday before the warrant could be obtained and served.

The grand jury found nothing for an indictment. The state and federal officials looked into the Habersham County the raid and found nothing.

I will go with these findings, not yours.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-26   18:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Gatlin (#58) (Edited)

Terrell said the drug buy was made late Tuesday, but it was early Wednesday before the warrant could be obtained and served.

For the "drug buy" to be part of the PC for the warrant, they should have kept constant surveillance on the residence, watching all exits and entrances, documrnting all coming and going.... before they hit the door, window or entrance point, while they waited for the warrant.

I've not researched this case, so I have no real information. I do remember that drugs were found inside this structure.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-02-26   18:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: CZ82 (#51)


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-02-26   19:42:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: GrandIsland (#59)

I do remember that drugs were found inside this structure.

Just residue.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-26   20:01:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: TooConservative, Pinguinite (#56) (Edited)

And the police won't even allocate funds for the baby's medical bills.

My guess is their lawyers are expecting an inevitable lawsuit and that they will end up paying anyway.

It is not that they won't pay, the state law prevents the Board of County Commissioners from paying.

I have no doubt the family will be awarded everything they go after in a civil lawsuit....and they should!!!

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-26   20:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Gatlin, GrandIsland (#62)

I have no doubt the family will be awarded everything they go after in a civil lawsuit....and they should!!!

I dunno. For most people, the closest thing to hitting the lottery is suing some public board. But it's the taxpayers that get hit for the payoff, not the officers.

We should bond police officers instead of giving cops blanket immunity and giving the taxpayers all the liability. When a bad or stupid cop can't get bonded due to their own actions, they would inevitably get priced out of being a cop any more. And, after a scandal of their own making, they wouldn't be able to move from one jurisdiction to the next, as anonymous as sex offenders and con men used to be decades back.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-27   1:29:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: TooConservative, GrandIsland (#63)

I have no doubt the family will be awarded everything they go after in a civil lawsuit....and they should!!!

I dunno. For most people, the closest thing to hitting the lottery is suing some public board.

I am not sure you understood what I meant, or maybe I didn't understand yoru reply.

Once the jury sees the before pictures of the beautiful child taken before the raid, then sees the hospital pictures....the family will win their lawsuit.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-27   7:07:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Gatlin (#64)

I am not sure you understood what I meant, or maybe I didn't understand yoru reply.

I was just taking a moment to rant for a pet cause, the bonding and private insurance of police to curb the abuses of the taxpayer and make it too expensive to keep dumb violent cops who break the laws.

I see it as a system that would self-regulate the abuse, leaving bad cops that abuse the public severely unable to keep working because they could no longer be insured/bonded.

IOW, make the bonding/insurance rates apply to each employee based on their record, not part of some blanket liability policy purchased by local towns to shield them from liability for police misconduct.

It would also help to make sure that good cops don't have to serve forever with bad cops screwing things up for their department. A lot of these bad cops do a lot of bad stuff, not just one or two incidents. A bonding/insurance system would do a lot to weed them out. And it wouldn't even be a matter for the local police chief (who is often unreliable on these things). Just a calculation of how likely it is that a particular cop is going to get into avoidable legal trouble.

If nothing else, by the time a cop has bungled enough that he's making minimum wage because his bond/insurance gets so high, he'll just quit and find other work. Let those guys do night security somewhere, not serve as police.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-27   10:29:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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