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Title: Departments Now “Having Hard Time” Finding People Who Want to Be Police Officers, Blaming Social Media
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URL Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/departm ... cers-blaming-social-media.html
Published: Feb 23, 2015
Author: Filming Cops
Post Date: 2015-02-23 10:09:29 by Deckard
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Views: 7072
Comments: 41
New figures have been released by WBAY showing that Seattle isn’t the only place where law enforcement jobs are undesired. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, interest in getting hired as a law enforcement officer has dropped dramatically at nearly 50%. “Our numbers are dropping,” says Capt. Jeff Sanborn, with the Brown County Sheriff’s Office. “We’re struggling to get people to apply,” says Lt. Jeff Brester, with the Green Bay Police Department. When asked why they think their numbers are sinking, Sanborn replied “I would say negative publicity, law enforcement publicity even in the last two to three years, Ferguson obviously being one of them.” In 2013, only 88 applicants for police work performed the written examination. In 2014, the number was even less: only 47 took the test. That is almost a 50% decline, according to statistical reports. Watch the video below (full article continues afterward). Police departments around the country are beginning to complain that widespread criticism of the institution of law enforcement is making it harder for them to find people who want to work as police officers. The recent events in Ferguson, they say, are partly to blame for the backlash against police. But many of us know that Ferguson is only the tip of the iceberg — underneath the surface, there are thousands of other cases of beating, raping, and killing, all committed by an institution that is supposedly here to “protect” us. The widespread exposure and criticism of this institution is becoming so popular that officers in the Seattle Metro area are complaining that it’s hard for them to find new applicants. And Cynthia Fajardo, the president of the Pierce County Deputy Sheriff’s Guild, says that multiple police agencies are having the same problem. Many departments report that this lack of applicants is due largely to the fact that growing numbers of Americans no longer respect the institution, and view it with deep distrust, due to stories of abuse being spread through social media. “If you check with any of the agencies here in the Seattle metro area, every single agency is having a very difficult time getting people who want to be police officers anymore,” said Fajardo, in an interview with local news affiliate K5. Cops like Fajardo do understand that Americans have been skeptical of the institution of state policing for quite some time, that it didn’t just start with Ferguson. They believe that social media is what’s causing the problem of skepticism toward police officers. But they’re wrong about that. Their own abusive actions are causing the problem. This skepticism of police officers is a “problem” for the institution of law enforcement in the same sense that skepticism of, say, 19th century plantation overseers became a “problem” for the institution of slavery. The reality is that police are individuals, and individuals are responsible for their actions. Individuals who willingly agree to coerce, extort, and initiate violence upon peaceful people in order to maintain a monopolistic rule of corrupt politicians are naturally going to be distrusted. They are responsible for what they do, not social media. Social media is merely a new mechanism to display their actions in front of a larger audience. As more Americans remove the scales from their eyes and see that the institution of law enforcement was created relatively recently (for most of human history we survived just fine without it) and only for the purpose of maintaining a corrupt political order, departments will have a harder time finding any applicants. Few people want to be part of something like that. Old institutions wither away as new generations create organic and more innovative alternatives. The state-controlled monopolistic institution of policing is no exception. “THERE IS NO HONOR IN THIS” Watch the Video of Cops Left Speechless after Marine Veteran Publicly Calls Them Out Resources Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America’s Police Forces Ten Secrets The Police Don’t Want You To Know! “How To Survive Police Encounters!” Police State USA: How Orwell’s Nightmare is Becoming Our Reality
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
this is obvious proof that there is coming clash between the people and the govt.
Quite true.. Most counties in the USA, and even large cities, got along with fairly small law enforcement depts, until the proggresive/socialist revolution of the early 1900's took political control. Yep, once socialistic politics prevailed in the US, along with prohibitions/wars on drugs, booze, guns, etc, and the rise of police state tactics, more and more rational people began to object, and demand a return to constitutional law. The concealed carry movement is a case in point. More armed citizens, less armament for cops can to be seen as a partial solution… Ending the war on drugs, etc, is obvious for another... Any other ideas?
Their Pensions were attacked by OCCUPY types Their safety by anti government types Their pay checks by shrinking budgets caused by increasing social service costs. Their hard work shit on, as multiple offenders are pled down and released BACK OUT on the streets And now, more than any other time, they are scrutinized by administration for split second decisions For all you anti cops that feel they must inflate corrupt cop numbers by yellow journalism, faux stats and repeated fear mongering.... just wait until your future "quality" officers are hired. The bottom of the barrel that will work with new conditions. You won't need to fear monger or slant the stats.... you'll have your hands full with Walmart shelf stocking quality officers. Hope you all enjoy what you've asked for... you reap what you sow.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
The standards could not get any lower than they already are.
That's absolute garbage, and you know it. When 500 people take a civil service test that will be good for 1 year... and be used to fill 10 officer hires, admin can pick amongst a target rich list. When 250 sign up, and 15% fail, 10% can't pass the background and 25% can't pass the agility test or academy.... you let me know if it can get worse. lol You refuse to speaketh with common sense because it doesn't fair well with your cop hating agenda.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
And that's part of the problem. Authoritarian administrators that pick aggressive, authoritarian candidates, just like them. -- We need cops with common sense, not storm troopers.. If only more cops had it...
It's virtually impossible to test for "common sense". It's quite a bit different than IQ. Most of the "common sense" determination comes from the interviews... not testing. Departments have to be careful how many candidates get washed in the " interview phase" or people like you scream nepotism. I'll agree that common sense is the best attribute an officer can have, but in today's millennium generation, it's hard to find. The problem is society wide... not just a LE problem.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Unless the administrators hire their relatives, why would I claim nepotism? Amazing, we agree again, that comment sense is hard to find. -- Somehow the cops have to find a way to attract more young libertarians.
That's like Ferguson trying to attract more black officers. The problem is deeper than any post on LF can solve... maybe unsolvable to make everyone happy.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
There are many relatives and friends of relatives, of officers, mayors, Alderman.... you name it. Plenty of people screaming foul if the highest civil service score isn't hired.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
I'm not sure whether you are describing 'Keystone Cops' type officers, or the more violent, deadly type. If the latter, isn't that where the Second Amendment comes in?
Are you suggesting that the best way to weed out the heavy handed rookie copies to hire as many as they can and have the populace shoot them?
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
That's absolute garbage, and you know it. Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops - ABC News You do know that common sense and IQ are two different animals? Do you have a slanted, bias and yellow journalistic study on "courts barring high common sense officers"? lol
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Apparently, most cops possess neither of those qualities.
Do you have statistical proof that "most" officers lack this? You do know, that your logic is flawed. Take the catholic priest problem. It's was sensationalism for anti religious MSM to print yellow journalism insinuating to the weak minds that "most" priests liked little boys. With the countless reports of sexual abuse and the catholic religions inability to police themselves...Do you suggest most priests are pedophiles with your flawed logic?
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
I have been compiling and documenting the evidence here and previously at LP for years. Your cop-mindset still believes that cops are heroes. Here's a clue - they aren't.
Your cop-mindset still believes that cops are heroes. Here's a clue - they aren't. That's your scientific study, months of bias/slanted FTP, Infowars articles and other yellow journalistic postings? lol Here's a clue... I don't believe all cops are Hero's. You are so disingenuous, that you can't cut and paste one post that I even suggested that... but you'd rather have the posters here at LF believe that. You are no better than liberal MSM. You use their tactics... Pathetic. Here is the fair and balanced truth regarding LE, since you are unwilling to post it. Most are plainly average. Some are cowards. Some are lazy. Some are criminals... and some are hero's. They represent the same statistical qualities as your PEERS, because they are selected from the civilian population... and the overall quality of your peers has diminished. I'm fair and balanced enough to admit that.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Amazing, --- we agree again, that comment sense is hard to find. -- Somehow the cops have to find a way to attract more young libertarians. Again we agree.. The solution is to hire the best by tests, and then fire the authoritarian personalities during the probationary period, and keep the libertarians.. Practically speaking, the opposite occurs, because LE is infested by authoritarian bosses. How do we get rid of them? --- How bout we elect libertarians to higher office?
How bout we elect libertarians to higher office? 1) I'm here to tell you, as fact, because I've dealt with many kinds of rookie cops from 70's score civil service, 98 score civil service, ex military and college grad. The higher the IQ, generally the lower the common sense. It even applies to some posters here. 2) I agree. But your fellow libertarian peers have got to unite. You won't start the ball rolling with a Ron Paul. We need to start with libertarian-lite, like Rand. Then once the sheeple see progress, they will be willing to vote more extream.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Nope! You don't present evidence. Evidence is material that can be presented to a court of law to help find the truth about something. You present emotional biased statements from family and friends of the perp.
Could be true for rookies, but all the sensible cops I've known (a lot) are the smart ones, like my father in law. - He managed a lieutenantcy without firing his gun, - in a long career. We don't need extreme libertarians, we need libertarian/constitutionalists.. In all official positions..
Promotional civil service exams tend to weed out the lower IQ and poor test takers. Sergeant, lieutenant and captain exams are difficult to take and pass with a 70. But I've met my share of non common sense higher ranking tool bags. Every time I took the Sgt's test, I scored number 1 in my department. It took me being passed over 6 or 7 times to make rank. The administration didn't want someone that could form an opinion. They wanted an obedient servant. They finally had to bite their tongue and promote me... or they would have had to promote one of two spineless, idiots that couldn't lead a group of guys if the guys were robots.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
I have no idea how you managed to come up with that from my post, but to answer the question - no. I am asking this. If government and its agents become violent and deadly, as opposed to clownish like the Keystone Cops, doesn't the Second Amendment come into play?
Absolutely. Aim for the eyes.
That doesn't have anything to do with any previous post on this thread. Vinny should give you your violent rhetoric type plug. If you ask him nice, maybe you two can post a few paragraphs about the need to shoot cops. lol
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
They should have learned that lesson at Ruby Ridge. That they didn't, -- became obvious at Waco. The 'fire next time' will not be pretty. --- Perhaps they realized that in the last flap in Nevada, but I wouldn't hold my breath..
I have a sneaking suspicion that will be more commonplace in the future with the tactics some departments use. People will shoot first and say later "Did you say you were a police officer, I'm kinda hard of hearing".
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Me: I am asking this. If government and its agents become violent and deadly, as opposed to clownish like the Keystone Cops, doesn't the Second Amendment come into play? That doesn't have anything to do with any previous post on this thread. Yes it does. You wrote: You won't need to fear monger or slant the stats.... you'll have your hands full with Walmart shelf stocking quality officers. Hope you all enjoy what you've asked for... you reap what you sow. Now that sounds like you are describing either incompetency like the Keystone Cops, or a new breed of violent and deadly officers. You refused to clarify. Why? Vinny should give you your violent rhetoric type plug. If you ask him nice, maybe you two can post a few paragraphs about the need to shoot cops. lol Maybe you can post a few paragraphs about the need to kill people's dogs and burn toddlers on SWAT raids. lol See? I can distort people's posts, too.
You won't need to fear monger or slant the stats.... you'll have your hands full with Walmart shelf stocking quality officers. Hope you all enjoy what you've asked for... you reap what you sow. I was talking about shoddy work caused by below average employees, IQ's and common sense. Not your hopes that officers will massively act like nazi's so you can find reasons to shoot them. But you and Vinny, by all means, carry on and have fun.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
"Shoot for the eyes"; I thought someone would laugh at such an absurd reply to a moronic question by kenh. Stop taking things so seriously, these folks are nuts.
Here's something that should bring joy to your heart => Your buddies burned this toddler in a drug and got away with it. Have a beer and celebrate, LOL!
More off topic propaganda. You don't need me to fear monger. You have Vinny. lol
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
I was just trying to cheer you up. How ungrateful!
Stick to your golf game. That will cheer me up.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Aren't a lot of applicants going for federal TSA jobs? Less work, less danger, higher pay, more mobile? The feds are doing as much as anticop sentiment to drain the pool of likely applicants.
We've had several cases like that this year. And the courts backed the homeowners. After all, what is the point of the Second Amendment and castle doctrine for firearms if you can't defend against armed intruders? And a cop knocking down your door is just another violent home invader if he doesn't announce his presence and show his badge.
TSA should be abolished. Airport security should be paid for and funded by private airline companies. The Feds should only be responsible for customs and incoming non Americans.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
I'm curious how much longer that is going to last if the current regime gets to keep installing their "ideologically defective" judges?
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
The current cases provide a certain amount of precendent in jurisprudence. It's just a part of the CCW juggernaut that has remade gun laws in this country in my lifetime.
Why is it that I believe blacks make excellent Police Officers?
#2. To: Y'ALL (#0)
(Edited)
As more Americans remove the scales from their eyes and see that the institution of law enforcement was created relatively recently (for most of human history we survived just fine without it) ---
--- and only for the purpose of maintaining a corrupt political order, departments will have a harder time finding any applicants. ---- Few people want to be part of something like that.
Old institutions wither away as new generations create organic and more innovative alternatives.
#3. To: Deckard (#0)
(Edited)
In Green Bay, Wisconsin, interest in getting hired as a law enforcement officer has dropped dramatically at nearly 50%.
#4. To: GrandIsland (#3)
....just wait until your future "quality" officers are hired. The bottom of the barrel that will work with new conditions.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#5. To: Deckard (#4)
The standards could not get any lower than they already are.
#6. To: GrandIsland (#5)
When 500 people take a civil service test that will be good for 1 year... and be used to fill 10 officer hires, admin can pick amongst a target rich list.
You refuse to speaketh with common sense.
#7. To: tpaine (#6)
(Edited)
And that's part of the problem. Authoritarian administrators that pick aggressive, authoritarian candidates, just like them. -- We need cops with common sense, not storm troopers..
#8. To: GrandIsland (#7)
Departments have to be careful how many candidates get washed in the " interview phase" or people like you scream nepotism.
I'll agree that common sense is the best attribute an officer can have, but in today's millennium generation, it's hard to find. The problem is society wide... not just a LE problem.
#9. To: tpaine (#8)
Amazing, we agree again, that comment sense is hard to find. -- Somehow the cops have to find a way to attract more young libertarians.
#10. To: tpaine (#8)
Unless the administrators hire their relatives, why would I claim nepotism?
#11. To: GrandIsland (#3)
You won't need to fear monger or slant the stats.... you'll have your hands full with Walmart shelf stocking quality officers.
#12. To: kenh (#11)
If the latter, isn't that where the Second Amendment comes in?
#13. To: GrandIsland (#5)
The standards could not get any lower than they already are.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#14. To: Deckard (#13)
The standards could not get any lower than they already are. That's absolute garbage, and you know it.
#15. To: GrandIsland (#14)
You do know that common sense and IQ are two different animals?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#16. To: Deckard (#15)
Apparently, most cops possess neither of those qualities.
#17. To: GrandIsland (#16)
Do you have statistical proof that "most" officers lack this?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#18. To: Deckard (#17)
(Edited)
have been compiling and documenting the evidence here and previously at LP for years.
#19. To: GrandIsland (#18)
I'll agree that common sense is the best attribute an officer can have, but in today's millennium generation, it's hard to find. The problem is society wide... not just a LE problem.
Here is the fair and balanced truth regarding LE, ----- Most are plainly average. Some are cowards. Some are lazy. Some are criminals... and some are hero's. They represent the same statistical qualities as your PEERS, because they are selected from the civilian population... and the overall quality of your peers has diminished.
#20. To: tpaine (#19)
(Edited)
Again we agree.. The solution is to hire the best by tests
#21. To: Deckard, GrandIsland (#17)
I have been compiling and documenting the evidence ...
#22. To: GrandIsland (#20)
I'm here to tell you, as fact, because I've dealt with many kinds of rookie cops from 70's score civil service, 98 score civil service, ex military and college grad. The higher the IQ, generally the lower the common sense. It even applies to some posters here.
I agree. But your fellow libertarian peers have got to unite. You won't start the ball rolling with a Ron Paul. We need to start with libertarian-lite, like Rand. -- Then once the sheeple see progress, they will be willing to vote more extream
#23. To: tpaine (#22)
- He managed a lieutenantcy without firing his gun, - in a long career.
#24. To: GrandIsland (#12)
Are you suggesting that the best way to weed out the heavy handed rookie copies to hire as many as they can and have the populace shoot them?
#25. To: kenh (#24)
I am asking this. If government and its agents become violent and deadly, as opposed to clownish like the Keystone Cops, doesn't the Second Amendment come into play?
#26. To: kenh (#24)
(Edited)
I am asking this. If government and its agents become violent and deadly, as opposed to clownish like the Keystone Cops, doesn't the Second Amendment come into play?
#27. To: kenh, Y'ALL (#24)
If government and its agents become violent and deadly, as opposed to clownish like the Keystone Cops, doesn't the Second Amendment come into play?
#28. To: kenh (#24)
Are you suggesting that the best way to weed out the heavy handed rookie copies to hire as many as they can and have the populace shoot them?
#29. To: GrandIsland (#26)
#30. To: kenh (#29)
Yes it does. You wrote:
#31. To: GrandIsland, kenh (#30)
But you and Vinny, by all means, carry on and have fun.
#32. To: GrandIsland (#30)
#33. To: kenh (#32)
#34. To: GrandIsland (#33)
More off topic propaganda.
#35. To: kenh (#34)
#36. To: GrandIsland (#3)
Nope! Kansans for Life is been at the forefront for many years pushing stringent standards for abortion clinics. Many of these clinics are sewers at best.
#37. To: CZ82 (#28)
I have a sneaking suspicion that will be more commonplace in the future with the tactics some departments use. People will shoot first and say later "Did you say you were a police officer, I'm kinda hard of hearing".
#38. To: TooConservative (#36)
#39. To: TooConservative (#37)
We've had several cases like that this year. And the courts backed the homeowners.
#40. To: CZ82 (#39)
#41. To: Deckard (#0)
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