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Title: Homosexual movement threatens these freedoms
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Published: Feb 17, 2015
Author: Gina Miller
Post Date: 2015-02-17 21:10:19 by A K A Stone
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It is pointless to answer the insincere, bully arguments of militant homosexual activists, because they will not accept the truth, no matter how plainly, simply and in small words it is presented to them. These people have a propagandist mission of flooding conservative website comment sections with their deceptive talking points (which is why we have very little patience for allowing them to freely spread those lies on our comment forums). But, it is important to refute their lies for the many others out there who are not involved in watching this movement, who do not see its progress nor understand the very real danger to some of our fundamental freedoms that this movement poses.

We are already seeing our rights being eroded. Just ask Christian business owners who are being successfully sued by homosexual activists when the Christians refuse to participate in the shameful abomination of marriage. The Left's fallacious argument that "business owners can't discriminate" against same-sex "marriage" customers is a bogus weapon that far too many people blindly accept. In a free nation, business owners are under no obligation to accept the business of anyone who walks in the door, much less those who are pushing a degenerate mockery of marriage in the face of the business owner.

Do not be misled by homosexual activists' false comparison of the civil rights movement for the equal treatment of black people to homosexuals. That is a completely illegitimate equation. There is no correlation at all between the morally neutral, innate characteristic of ethnicity and the chosen, sinful behavior of homosexuality. As wise people in the black Christian community say, "Don't compare your sin to my skin!"

Our society has become so deeply corrupt, that a growing number of people no longer believe that homosexual behavior is wrong, although it always has been wrong and always will be wrong. A growing number of people also do not understand that marriage is one thing only: the union of a man and a woman, and it can be nothing else, or it's not marriage. People who lack a right moral foundation will not accept the truth. However, a lack of understanding by anyone does not change the fact that our rights and freedoms are in the cross-hairs of the militant homosexual movement. If the evil sham of same- sex "marriage" and other "rights" of the homofascist movement are imposed on the entire United States of America, these freedoms will be in grave danger:

Freedom of Conscience and Religion

Christian business owners' freedom to run their businesses by the moral code of the Bible and according to their consciences will be effectively outlawed in America. They will not be free to reject the lying premise of same-sex "marriage," and under penalty of law, will be forced to violate their conscience and religious beliefs to accommodate same-sex "marriage" business demands. The countless examples of homo-activist lawsuits that have prevailed against Christian business owners who did not want to use their work to participate in same-sex "marriage" are already a testament to this truth. This will also affect countless other people of conscience, like marriage license clerks, who would be forced to issue these sham licenses to same-sex couples or lose their jobs.

Freedom of Association

"Discrimination" is a necessary thing in life (it simply means "to make a distinction"), but this word has been hijacked and turned into a weapon of tyranny being used against people of conscience. The "Employment Non- Discrimination Act" (ENDA) being pushed in Congress by homofascist sympathizers, would make it illegal to "discriminate" in hiring and firing practices against men who dress like women (and the reverse) or who display other in-your-face sexually deviant behavior. So, you don't want to hire a man dressed like Cher? Be prepared to get fined out of business, or worse, if this becomes law.

Even though this has not yet become the law of the land, many major companies have already adopted internal policies to the same effect. They mandate the acceptance in the workplace of mentally disordered "transgender" people, who imagine they are the opposite sex. They even allow them to use the restroom of the opposite sex. You don't like it? Too bad! In many big corporations, if you want to keep your job, you no longer have the right to protest or state the obvious lunacy of such things, things that would have been rightly understood to be horribly outrageous just a few short years ago.

Freedom to Protect Your Children From Pro-Homosexual Indoctrination

If same-sex "marriage" and ENDA become law, the creeping pro-homosexual indoctrination in the public schools will become mandatory, as it already is in California. Parents will not be allowed to opt their kids out of being taught that same-sex "marriage" is real marriage, that boys and girls can choose which sex they want to be and that homosexual behavior is perfectly natural and normal, all of which are damnable lies. Even now, many parents don't realize that the "anti-bullying" programs in the public schools are nothing more than thinly disguised pro-homosexual propaganda. Want to shield your child from having a male teacher who dresses as a female or an aggressively open homosexual teacher? Again, too bad for you.

Other Predictable Outcomes

Freedom of speech is a big target of the entire radical Left, including its homofascist wing. The United States of America's First Amendment protection of our God-given freedom of speech is a great frustration to these people on the Left. All tyrannical regimes throughout the world and history have crushed free speech, because despots simply cannot allow the truth to be told about them. People who are free to speak are free to expose the desperate corruption of the evil guys who rule them and to declare that there is a better way than tyranny.

Likewise, homosexualists despise the truth to be told about the immoral, unnatural, unhealthy behavior of homosexuality and "transgenderism." It is easily predictable that they will continue to work to silence those who oppose the part of their agenda that seeks to normalize perverse sexual behavior and destroy the meaning of marriage. Our freedom of speech will be in jeopardy if same-sex "marriage" and ENDA become bad law. They will accomplish this, as they have accomplished some of their other goals, through lawsuits that end up setting "precedent" and through the push for "hate speech" laws. We're already part-way there with unconstitutional "hate crimes" laws that apply unequal protection of the law, deeming some crime victims more worthy than others of their Orwellian protection.

It is also predictable that churches will be targeted, as well. After all, if same-sex "marriage" is the law of the land, then what "right" do church leaders have to refuse to accommodate these sodomites who want to be "married" in the church? Don't doubt this for a minute! These people will not stop until they obliterate any opposition to their twisted, despotic agenda.

As with everything the Left does, the "issue" is never the issue. For example, "Obamacare" is not about "affordable health care." It's about power and control over the medical industry, the health insurance industry, and our personal health care. In the same way, the man-made "global warming" hoax is not about "saving the planet." It, too, is about power and control over our freedom of movement, our private property rights and our very way of life. Obama's illegal amnesty is not about "compassion" for poor illegal aliens. It's about creating a massive, permanent underclass of Democrat voters. The same goes for the radical homosexual movement. Its members claim that they only want "marriage equality" (there is no such thing) and equal "rights" (they already have those), but the real goals of this evil movement are rooted in tyranny against our freedoms, especially Christian expression, and if it's not stopped, these and other freedoms will become a fading memory.

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#47. To: Liberator (#35)

Educate me. In which societies, tribes, or cultures were "male marriages" or "female marriages" found acceptible?

Educate yourself.

That's some interesting queer trivia, but what has it to do with either "gay marriage"?

Did you miss the part about "ship wives" being the norm?

(or you and Yukon?)

Yeah,I'm not an ignorant,superstitious,bigotted fool,so I MUST be queer,huh?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-19   3:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: redleghunter (#40)

Educate me. In which societies, tribes, or cultures were "male marriages" or "female marriages" found acceptible?

The ones which died out. No male-female "interaction" no babies.

You are not stupid,so why do you insist on trying to pass yourself off as stupid?

Homosexuals have always been a tiny minority of the human population,and the fact that they were recognized as humans with a right to live like everyone else by most societies that weren't members of the "Christian religion of peace and love" does nothing to change that.

What is it with you Christians and your hatred and fear of homosexuals? The oddest part is you worship a guy that was most likely a homosexual himself.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-19   3:11:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: sneakypete (#47)

In which societies, tribes, or cultures were "male marriages" or "female marriages" found acceptible?

Educate yourself.

I didn't think you'd be able to answer that one.

Look -- unlike you, I don't have time or incination to frequent "gay-friendly" online propaganda and revisionist indoctrination centers. As busy as you are, I'm surprised you do.

Did you miss the part about "ship wives" being the norm?

No, but I missed the part of seafaring history where sodomy has been interpreted as "marriage" back at the dock ("Arrrgh...Look everybody! Me an' me bucko are now mateys fer' life! Husband and wife! Arrgh!!")

Yeah,I'm not an ignorant,superstitious,bigotted fool,so I MUST be queer,huh?

At least I can laugh at your ball-busting. You can't take a bit of ribbing anymore?

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-19   9:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: sneakypete, redleghunter (#48)

Homosexuals have always been a tiny minority of the human population,and the fact that they were recognized as humans with a right to live like everyone else by most societies that weren't members of the "Christian religion of peace and love" does nothing to change that.

A tiny minority of the human population, and STILL are. So why do they any right to enforce their perversions and fascism by coercive judicial fiat or have their lifestyle sanctioned and endorsed by the rest of us?

What is it with you Christians and your hatred and fear of homosexuals?

Hey pal -- when the schools and gubmint are sanctioning and endorsing perverion, making homosexuality seem "normal," and forcing private business to deal with homofascist queers, you'd better believe Christians are going to oppose it being crammed down their throats. But Christians are hardly the only ones who reject institutional homosexual coercion by the courts.

The oddest part is you worship a guy that was most likely a homosexual himself.

Ignorance and idiocy has become your signature, hasn't it?

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-19   9:23:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Liberator (#49)

In which societies, tribes, or cultures were "male marriages" or "female marriages" found acceptible?

Educate yourself.

I didn't think you'd be able to answer that one.

I could if I wanted to bother to spend the time to look up things I read a decade or more ago just so I could post links to them here so you and others who have no real interested in reading them and would say the information was wrong if you did read it.

You are a grown man. If this stuff interests you,look it up your own damn self.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-19   15:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Liberator (#50)

So why do they any right to enforce their perversions and fascism by coercive judicial fiat or have their lifestyle sanctioned and endorsed by the rest of us?

Excuse me? Somebody is trying to pass laws to force you to turn queer against your wishes?

On the other hand,fundie Christians are also a tiny minority of the world population,and you are always trying to pass laws to force the rest of us to live according to your beliefs.

People like you are a much bigger threat to individual freedoms than all the homosexuals in the world because you think you are punishing people and denying them freedoms because it is "Gawds will!"

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-19   15:07:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: tpaine (#7)

HEAR HEAR, why did we allow the government anywhere near such a personal relationship as a vow between a man and woman?

jeremiad  posted on  2015-02-19   22:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: VxH (#45)

"The bottom line is that no other historical account of earliest Christianity is similar to this one, because no other account adheres to the methodology that has been described here. They all violate it rampantly, not just on a few details; and all of them build their “historical” reconstructions primarily upon the Gospels and Acts, documents which are falsely alleged to be witness testimony, rather than upon the seven authentic letters by Paul, which are far higher quality evidence."

Zuesse, Eric (2012-03-29). CHRIST'S VENTRILOQUISTS: The Event that Created Christianity . Hyacinth Editions. Kindle Edition.

It ends like that.

Sounds like he is promoting the heresy of Marcion.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-20   0:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: sneakypete, rlk, liberator, GarySpFc (#48)

Homosexuals have always been a tiny minority of the human population,and the fact that they were recognized as humans with a right to live like everyone else by most societies that weren't members of the "Christian religion of peace and love" does nothing to change that.

What is it with you Christians and your hatred and fear of homosexuals? The oddest part is you worship a guy that was most likely a homosexual himself.

Not fear nor hatred.

Society for centuries has been built on men liking women, and women liking men. They fall in love, get hitched, consummate the marriage and have babies. The couple raises the kids balanced with a nurturing mother, the father provides the leadership and stability. The rug rats grow up and rinse and repeat.

Outside of this WELL documented normal functioning family is something called outliers or abnormal.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-20   0:40:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: sneakypete, liberator (#48)

The oddest part is you worship a guy that was most likely a homosexual himself.

Sorry Pete I'm no longer Catholic. Even when I was I did not worship the Pope.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-20   0:46:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: redleghunter (#55)

Society for centuries has been built on men liking women, and women liking men.

It is true that was and is the norm,but that doesn't mean it was exclusive. It was just the norm.

Besides homosexuals,there were also bi-sexuals and heterosexuals who never married or had kids,and even some people who were not interested in sex with anyone.

Yet society somehow (sarcasm) survived this.

What is killing society has nothing to do with sex,and everything to do with power and domination by a few (mostly heterosexual) of the majority.

Save your anger for the globalists/fascists/communists. They are the real danger to society. BTW,these "crusades" against homosexuals do NOTHING to further society,and in fact they help the globalists/fascists/communists by further fragmenting society and making it easier for them to take power. THEY have all the money and political power. All WE have is superior numbers,and everything we do that fragments our strength in numbers only serves to make the globalists/fascists/communists stronger. They are playing divide and conquer (mostly along racial and social lines)game to make us weaker and prevent us from fighting back,and we are letting them get away with it.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-20   7:26:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: redleghunter (#56)

Even when I was I did not worship the Pope.

There is something seriously wrong with this latest guy. Even by the low standards set by previous Popes he stands out as a 8 ball.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-20   7:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: redleghunter, sneakypete (#55)

Why does does Italy have so much Tor traffic?

www.google.com/#q=frontline+secrets+of+the+vatican

VxH  posted on  2015-02-20   11:02:38 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: sneakypete, redleghunter (#57) (Edited)

these "crusades" against homosexuals do NOTHING to further society,

What does the parasitic appropriation of reproductive resources by homosexuals do for the reproductive/socio-biological fitness of society?

"Fitness" being a measure of viable offspring produced over multiple generations.

VxH  posted on  2015-02-20   11:04:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: sneakypete (#57) (Edited)

domination by a few (mostly heterosexual) of the majority

The oddest part is you worship a guy that was most likely a homosexual himself.

Social engineering - evolution - atheism - Marxism !

Problem 4: Natural Selection Struggles to Fix Advantageous Traits in Populations

In 2008, 16 biologists from around the world convened in Altenberg, Austria, to discuss problems with the modern neo-Darwinian model of evolution. The journal Nature covered this "Altenberg 16" conference, quoting leading scientists saying things like:

• "[T]he origin of wings and the invasion of the land . . . are things that evolutionary theory has told us little about."

• "You can't deny the force of selection in genetic evolution . . . but in my view this is stabilizing and fine-tuning forms that originate due to other processes."

•"The modern synthesis is remarkably good at modeling the survival of the fittest, but not good at modeling the arrival of the fittest." ( more)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3259281/posts

Jesus the effeminate - maybe ... the queer --- impossible !

The formula for Christianity is a perfect God - man (( sinless )) ... going successfully through the justice system --- for a guilty humanity !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2015-02-20   11:34:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: VxH (#60)

What does the parasitic appropriation of reproductive resources by homosexuals do for the reproductive/socio-biological fitness of society?

What reproductive resources are they appropriating? Male homosexuals damn sure ain't appropriating heterosexual women.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-20   11:48:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: sneakypete (#62) (Edited)

What reproductive resources are they appropriating?

$, among other things. For example, how much does homosexual "infertility" treatment cost? Making lesbian sperm from female stem cells will no doubt be expensive. How do the Transhumanists/Postgenderist perverts intend to pay for such abominations of medical science?

Suggested reading on the subject of Reproductive Fitness and Resources:

www.amazon.com/Sex-Evolut...Martin-Daly/dp/0871507676

It's a classic text that was used in university biology curricula... back before self-worshiping activists perverted the social cooperation among animals into their own image.

Is teaching biological FACT a "hate" crime yet?

VxH  posted on  2015-02-20   11:50:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: A K A Stone (#0)

ey will not accept the truth, no matter how plainly, simply and in small words it is presented to them.

How many viable offspring can two sperm create without un-natural intervention?

ZERO.

That FACT stands regardless of whether homosexuals accept it or not.

"I KNOW BUT ONE CODE OF MORALITY FOR MEN WHETHER ACTING SINGLY OR COLLECTIVELY" --Thomas Jeffeson

VxH  posted on  2015-02-20   13:24:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: VxH (#63)

Making lesbian sperm from female stem cells will no doubt be expensive.

Say WHAT?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-20   17:59:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: sneakypete (#65)

Say WHAT?

Uhuh.

www.google.com/#q=sperm+from+female+stem+cells

"When the technology is ready, even more provocative reproductive feats might be possible. For instance, cells from a man's skin could theoretically be used to create eggs that are fertilized with a partner's sperm,"

www.nature.com/news/stem-cells-egg-engineers-1.13582

VxH  posted on  2015-02-20   20:47:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: sneakypete (#57)

It is true that was and is the norm,but that doesn't mean it was exclusive. It was just the norm.

Having anti social type behaviors are not the norm. Society in the past saw fit not to promulgate them.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-21   0:47:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: redleghunter (#67)

Having anti social type behaviors are not the norm.

BullBush! "Anti-social behaviors" are totally dependent on your viewpoint.

For instance,Pol Pot,Mao,Stalin,and Hitler had wildly different POV's on what constitutes "anti-social behavior" than Thomas Jefferson.

Or any cult that practices "group think" instead of "individual think".

In fact,the norm is to for different people to have different opinions.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-21   8:44:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: sneakypete (#68)

For instance,Pol Pot,Mao,Stalin,and Hitler had wildly different POV's on what constitutes "anti-social behavior" than Thomas Jefferson.

You have trouble distinguishing right from wrong.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-21   9:36:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: A K A Stone (#69)

For instance,Pol Pot,Mao,Stalin,and Hitler had wildly different POV's on what constitutes "anti-social behavior" than Thomas Jefferson.

Thomas Jefferson on sodomy:

"Whosoever shall be guilty of Rape, Polygamy, or Sodomy with man or woman shall be punished, if a man, by castration..."

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-02-21   10:30:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: A K A Stone (#69)

For instance,Pol Pot,Mao,Stalin,and Hitler had wildly different POV's on what constitutes "anti-social behavior" than Thomas Jefferson.

You have trouble distinguishing right from wrong.

Nope. You have trouble understanding that your biases are clouding your judgement. Just because you dislike or find something repulsive,that doesn't mean it is wrong or immoral,anymore than your deciding that something is moral and right means your decision should apply to everyone.

Nobody died and made you Master of the Universe.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-21   14:03:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: sneakypete (#71)

For instance,Pol Pot,Mao,Stalin,and Hitler had wildly different POV's on what constitutes "anti-social behavior" than Thomas Jefferson. You have trouble distinguishing right from wrong.

Nope. You have trouble understanding that your biases are clouding your judgement. Just because you dislike or find something repulsive,that doesn't mean it is wrong or immoral,anymore than your deciding that something is moral and right means your decision should apply to everyone.

Pete you are more of a fool then I originally thought.

Lets consider your nonesnse.

Yeah maybe Hitler was right killing those jews wasn't immoral. And Maybe Thomas Jefferson was wrong about individual liberty.

Only an insane person would think to compare the two and say "Nobody made you the Master of the Univers".

There is a right and wrong Pete. What is morally right is universal.

I think maybe you are just a senile old man whose moral compass has rotted away.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-21   18:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: A K A Stone (#72)

Yeah maybe Hitler was right killing those jews wasn't immoral. And Maybe Thomas Jefferson was wrong about individual liberty.

You have lost your bleeping mind.

There is a right and wrong Pete. What is morally right is universal.

How old are you,12? There is no such thing as "one morality for all and all situations."

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-21   21:11:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: All (#73)

Seems to me heterosexuals have ruined marriage.

Where's the anger about that?

Biff Tannen  posted on  2015-02-21   22:35:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: sneakypete (#68)

BullBush! "Anti-social behaviors" are totally dependent on your viewpoint.

For instance,Pol Pot,Mao,Stalin,and Hitler had wildly different POV's on what constitutes "anti-social behavior" than Thomas Jefferson.

Or any cult that practices "group think" instead of "individual think".

In fact,the norm is to for different people to have different opinions.

You just demonstrated above that the "new norm" is abnormal.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-22   9:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Biff Tannen (#74)

Seems to me heterosexuals have ruined marriage.

Seems to me that women and divorce lawyers beat them to it. Just wait until all these "happy homos" hit divorce court and then we will see just how "gay" they really are. You have to wonder why none of them seem to have heard the expression,"Be careful what you hope for,lest you get it.",don't you?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-22   12:54:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: redleghunter (#75)

I think the problem is ignorance of history. Some Christians have this mythical idea that marriage is some cast-in-stone, 'God blessed' thing that was all laid out and sanctioned in the New Testament and followed by all good Christians since.

It never existed that way. Look into it. What marriage has been changes regularly over time and it always has. Does that mean homo marriage is ok? Not necessarily, but it does mean is that this argument that they are corrupting marriage from what it's always been, is a failed argument. Marriage is what the people want it to be, and it always has been. You just don't like it. That's ok.

People on their high horse about homo's ruining marriage seem to ignore the violence done to the institution by non-homo's, by Christians. Not a word about that. Because they don't really care about the institution. They just hate homo's. Whatever.

Marriage is what you want it to be.

No one but you can affect your marriage.

Your kids will have their own idea of what marriage is.

It'll be ok.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2015-02-22   20:07:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: sneakypete (#76)

I almost never wonder anything about what homo's think. I just don't care enough to think about it.

Kind of does suck to see them enter into the misery of marital breakups though. Wouldn't wish that on anyone lol

Biff Tannen  posted on  2015-02-22   20:09:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Biff Tannen, redleghunter (#77)

People on their high horse about homo's ruining marriage seem to ignore the violence done to the institution by non-homo's, by Christians.

Really? Is that the trendy thing now blame everything on Christians?

My first guess would be to blame Judges, Leftards and Atheists cause they seem not to care about much of anything but themselves.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-22   20:25:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Biff Tannen (#78)

Kind of does suck to see them enter into the misery of marital breakups though.

The one advantage they did have,and they work hard to throw it away.

Are they homosexuals,or masochists ?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-22   21:22:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Biff Tannen (#77)

I think the problem is ignorance of history. Some Christians have this mythical idea that marriage is some cast-in-stone, 'God blessed' thing that was all laid out and sanctioned in the New Testament and followed by all good Christians since.

It never existed that way. Look into it.

Marriage between the opposite genders is much older than Christianity. We know that from archeological digs, stone tablets and other artifacts all confirming the biblical record.

The rest of your commentary is interesting but not founded on historical evidence. Frankly it is a post modern relativistic approach.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-22   23:16:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: CZ82 (#79)

Really? Is that the trendy thing now blame everything on Christians?

My first guess would be to blame Judges, Leftards and Atheists cause they seem not to care about much of anything but themselves.

Next we will hear that Arab Christians are at fault for sticking their necks under ISIS blades.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-22   23:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Biff Tannen (#77) (Edited)

What's the natural multi-generational reproductive fitness of a homosexual couple?

ZERO

VxH  posted on  2015-02-23   0:46:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Biff Tannen, liberator, CZ82 (#74)

Seems to me heterosexuals have ruined marriage.

Where's the anger about that?

You are correct to a degree. The transgression of heterosexuals using the institution of marriage as akin to a short term 'hook up' and the use of the 'no fault' divorce has set the stage for homosexual 'marriage.'

Yes the above opened the door. Homosexuals basically point to the disfunctional hetero couples and broken families and say "hey they are just like us now, so we want in on this."

Which encompasses the previous comments made. That what has been the norm for centuries is no longer with exceptions. The 'new' 'norm' is abnormal by not only Jewish/Christian standards but the historical design as well.

The solution is not to embrace the "whore of Babylon" but to "come out of her."

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-23   9:54:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: redleghunter (#84)

Oh no, that's never been God's answer. Christians are to live among them, not withdraw.

Notice, jesus was born and raised in Galilee not secluded and protected in a temple.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2015-02-23   15:13:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Biff Tannen (#85)

Oh no, that's never been God's answer. Christians are to live among them, not withdraw.

Notice, jesus was born and raised in Galilee not secluded and protected in a temple.

Live among yes. Embrace the world at the expense of following Christ? NO!

Christians are pilgrims.

Jesus Christ never embraced the sin of the sinners he forgave. He healed them. He said drop what you are doing and follow Him.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-23   15:17:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: redleghunter (#86)

Agreed

Biff Tannen  posted on  2015-02-23   15:18:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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