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Title: Franklin Graham: Secularists have taken control of America
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Published: Feb 4, 2015
Author: Michael F. Haverluck
Post Date: 2015-02-13 14:14:58 by redleghunter
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Addressing the crowd at the Oklahoma State Evangelism Conference last week, world-renowned evangelist Franklin Graham admittedly took a different spin than his iconic father, Billy Graham, on the podium and criticized America, declaring that "secularists have taken control of our country." The president of the Billy Graham Evangelist Association admonished believers in America for standing by while godless, democratically appointed government officials rip the Christian foundation of the country out from under them. "Our country has changed, and we've got to take a stand," Graham exhorted the Oklahoma City crowd, according to The Christian Post. "We live in a secular society led by people that call themselves progressives. Secularists … have taken control of our country. And we have just sat back and it's happened. And we haven't even realized it's happened." Not my father's world Graham then said that he is not afraid to talk about many of the issues his father didn't typically address and critique, noting that the bulk of the senior Graham's ministry took place during a time before American society thoroughly divorced itself from God. He explained how Billy Graham's school days weren't riddled with fears that students would be punished for handing out Christian literature, forming Bible clubs or leading organized prayer. "Well, you say, 'Now Franklin, you father wouldn't get onto these subjects,'" insinuated Graham, who is also the president of Samaritan's Purse, a nonprofit Christian humanitarian organization. "Wait a second … My father, when he was going to school, they had a Bible in school. When he was going to school, they had the Ten Commandments on the wall. When he was going to school, you could pray in school, and the teachers would lead in those prayers." Since his father, the 92-year-old Billy Graham, grew up decades before God, Bible reading and prayer were removed from the public schools in 1963 — which is also the year that evolution replaced creation as the dominant teaching about the origins of man and the universe — the younger 62-year-old Graham argues that the changed times call for him to speak on the many moral issues that Christians now face on a daily basis. "The secularists and the humanists … you mention the name of Christ, they jump all over you," Graham contended. "I get jumped on all the time. I don't really care." Secularization infiltration Graham went on to argue that the secularization of society has long since extended beyond the schoolhouse gate, infiltrating virtually every facet of American society. Graham "It's all over the country," Graham insisted. "You have the secularists and the humanists who are wanting to deny that Jesus ever existed." Billy Graham's son then talked about the ironic twist that came about in the late 1980s and early 1990s — a time when the Cold War ended and hearts went cold to God, as secularism, socialism and communism entered into American education, society and politics full force. "When the Berlin wall came down, everybody said: 'We won,'" Graham remembered. "And secularism came. And secularism and communism are the same thing. They're godless. They're antichrist." Only One hope, not 12 Graham argues that America is not what it used to be, as it has turned its back on the Christian principles upon which it was founded. And as another presidential election draws near, he contends that conservative politicians aren't the answer. "America has changed and it's not coming back unless the Church takes a stand," Graham insisted. "Now I'm not talking about Baptists or Republicans or Tea Party … I have no confidence that any of these politicians or any party is going to turn this country around." In the midst of the current political frenzy taking place, with a dozen conservative prospective candidates promising that they can turn America around from its godless, destructive path, Graham promises that no politician can deliver the country from falling apart. "There is only one who can save — only one … Jesus," Graham added. "You see, Jesus is in the boat. All we have to do is call Him, call on His name." As godless policies and laws continue to work their way into American society — from God being ousted from the public schools in 1963, to Roe v. Wade ushering in legalized abortion in 1973, to the floodgate of same-sex "marriage" opening in 2004, to the normalization of homosexual behavior in the military in 2011 — Graham warns that America will be judged for its disobedience and repudiation of God's Word. "There are storms that are coming," Graham foretold. "The only hope for this country is for men and women of God to stand up and take a stand."
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#1. To: liberator, *Religious History and Issues* (#0)
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"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
Franklin Graham is certainly a chip off the old block. Beginning in 1963, America began swirling down the ol' crapper. The Blame: Moral relativism promoted by institutional Secular Humanism. The day it displaced America's traditional, institutional Judeo-Christian views and virtues was the day the subversive cultural/political time-bomb began ticking. Those storms promised by Graham are already upon us, only to get worse. MUCH worse. Bad is the new "Good." God will not be mocked for long.
Liberals - libertarians control the language - mind - culture - politics ... secularism - pluralism - is founding fathers - Christianity - really good --- diversity - fascism - atheism - satanism is brave new world neocommunism !
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So Thomas Jefferson was a liberal?
a mud wrestle match ... with a machine --- in your mind ! no thanks !
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secularism - pluralism - is founding fathers - Christianity - really good
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American History - not - BorisY's - Forte. Orthodox - Oprichniki - need - new - disinformation - propaganda - techniques !!!!!!!
Keywords: wailing gnashing teeth, wailing gnashing teeth, wailing gnashing teeth #119. To: Destro (#118) I really don't understand how liberals use trivia to operate a monstrous political reality eating machine ! Hopefully it will swallow them up 1st ! byeltsin posted on 2008-10-25 Divine intervention - deliverance - peace ! #1. To: All (#0) dieversity = dialectical - dematerialism ! (( self correcting problem )) When the end of time machine turns on - the wheat separated from the chaff - just being on the compost pile - the dead feel nothing now - then - the machine begins to shut down - the compost comes back to life - all fizziled out souls have a spark of eternity - that get dematerialized - blown out - they should think about that one ! countdown - the warning light is blinking ! byeltsin posted on 2015-01-11
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Simply? Franklin Graham can clearly see -- as do I -- that TJ is reinforcing his freedom to worship is he pleases, without state coercion. Should that be news to Graham or anyone else? Graham merely notes that the religion of Secular Humanism has replaced the Bible-inspired, traditional standard American values, virtue, morals and ethics. AT WHAT COST? Have we now more liberty and rights and freedom, OR less since 1963? Since 1974? Since 9/11? Since "gay marriage" made a mockery of right & wrong?
the wheat separated from the chaff - just being on the compost pile - the dead feel nothing now - then - the machine begins to shut down - the compost comes back to life - all fizziled out souls have a spark of eternity - that get dematerialized - blown out - they should think about that one ! countdown - the warning light is blinking ! I must say -- you've made this haiku very eloquent.
Jesus was very emphatic, you either love or hate Him. The consequences of making the wrong choice have been seen in many great civilizations that have fallen in a very short time. Look at the cities of the past. There is Babylon. It is said to have been founded by a queen named Semiramis, who had two millions of men at work for years building it. It is nothing but dust now. Nearly a thousand years ago, a historian wrote that the ruins of Nebuchadnezzar’s palace were still standing, but men were afraid to go near them because they were full of scorpions and snakes. That is the so thought invincible city which fell in one night. Nineveh is gone. Its towers and bastions have fallen. The traveler who tries to see Carthage cannot find much of it. Corinth, once the seat of luxury and art, is only a shapeless mass. Ephesus, long the metropolis of Asia, the Paris of that day, was crowded with buildings as large as the capitol at Washington. It looks more like a neglected graveyard now than anything else. Granada, once so grand, with its twelve gates and towers, is now in decay. The Alhambra, the palace of the Mohammedan kings, was situated there. Little pieces of the once grand and beautiful cities of Herculanæum and Pompeii are now being sold in the shops for relics. Jerusalem, once the joy of the whole earth, is but a shadow of its former self. Thebes, for thousands of years, up almost to the coming of Christ, among the largest and wealthiest cities of the world, is now a mass of decay. But little of ancient Athens, and many more of the proud cities of olden times, remain to tell the story of their downfall. God drives his plowshare through cities, and they are upheaved like furrows in the field. “Behold,” says Isaiah, “the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance; behold, He taketh up the isles as a very little thing.… All nations before Him are as nothing; and they are counted to Him less than nothing, and vanity.” See how Antioch has fallen. When Paul preached there, it was a superb metropolis. A wide street, over three miles long, stretching across the entire city, was ornamented with rows of columns and covered galleries, and at every corner stood carved statues to commemorate their great men, whose names even we have never heard. These men are never heard of now, but the poor preaching tent- maker who entered its portals stands out as the grandest character in history. The finest specimens of Grecian art decorated the shrines of the temples, and the baths and the aqueducts were such as are never approached in elegance now. Men then, as now, were seeking honor, wealth and renown, and enshrining their names and records in perishable clay. Within the walls of Antioch, we are told, were enclosed hills over seven hundred feet high, and rocky precipices and deep ravines gave a wild and picturesque character to the place of which no modern city affords an example. These heights were fortfied in a marvelous manner, which gave to them strange and startling effects. The vast population of this brilliant city, combining all the art and cultivation of Greece with the levity, the luxury and the superstition of Asia, was as intent on pleasure as the population of any of our great cities are to-day. The citizens had their shows, their games, their races and dancers, their sorcerers, puzzlers, buffoons and miracle-workers, and the people sought constantly in the theaters and processions for something to stimulate and gratify the most corrupt desires of human nature. This is pretty much what we find the masses of the people in our great cities doing now. Antioch was even worse than Athens, for the so-called worship they indulged in was not only idolatrous, but had mixed up with it the grossest passions to which man descends. It was here that Paul came to preach the glad tidings of the Gospel of Christ; it was here that the disciples were first called Christians, as a nickname; all followers of Christ before that time having been called “saints” or “brethren.” As has been well said, out of that spring at Antioch a mighty stream has flowed to water the world. Astarte, the “Queen of Heaven,” whom they worshiped; Diana, Apollo, the Pharisee and Saducee, are no more, but the despised Christians yet live. Yet that heathen city, which would not take Christianity to its heart and keep it, fell. Cities that have not the refining and restraining influences of Christianity well established in them, seldom do amount tmuch in the long run. They grow dim in the light of ages. Few of our great cities in this country are a hundred years old as yet. For nearly a thousand years this city prospered; yet it fell. Our future has been written in the past, and pride goes before the fall.
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
Gary, thanks for that overview and sobering reminder that all man's glory is fleeting and temporary. (Yes, and the Kardashians WILL one day never be thought of again :-)
It would be news to anybody who received their indoctrination from the Focus on the Family farce, or their revisionist kinsmen down in Texas who tried to write Thomas Jefferson out of American history.
Read between the lines ... what it doesn't say - don't waste your time - breath - tears - God wills that none suffer - perish - it's their own irreversible fate - decision --- they happily - carelessly choose it !
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How many times can a single moment be divided? There's your eternity.
The Closing of the Golden Gate. The Golden Gate is the eastern gate of Jerusalem, through which Christ made his triumphal entry on Palm Sunday before his crucifixion (Matthew 21). Ezekiel 44:2 predicted that it would be closed one day, and not reopened until the Messiah returned: “The LORD said to me, ‘This gate is to remain shut. It must not be opened; no one may enter through it. It is to remain shut because the LORD, the God of Israel, has entered through it.’ ” In 1543 Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent closed the gate and walled it up as Ezekiel had predicted. He had no idea he was fulfilling prophecy. He simply sealed it because the road leading to it was no longer used for traffic. It remains sealed to this day exactly as the Bible predicted, waiting to be reopened when the King returns. The Muslims thought by sealing the gate and planting a cemetery in front of the gate it would stop Christ from returning again. http://www.biblewalks.com/Sites/GoldenGate.html
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
Oh, I forgot to include the Destruction of Tyre. Tyre, an important sea port in the Eastern Mediterranean, was one of the great cities of the ancient world. It was a heavily fortified and flourishing city. Built on both the mainland and an island, with the island city protected by 300 foot high walls. Yet Ezekiel 26:3–14 predicted her doom and entire demolition hundreds of years in advance, declaring: “This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against you, O Tyre, and I will bring many nations against you, like the sea casting up its waves. They will destroy the walls of Tyre and pull down her towers; I will scrape away her rubble and make her a bare rock. Out in the sea she will become a place to spread fishing nets. . . . They will plunder your wealth and loot your merchandise; they will break down your walls and demolish your fine houses and throw your stones, timber and rubble into the sea. . . . I will make you a bare rock, and you will become a place to spread fishing nets. You will never be rebuilt, for I the LORD have spoken, declares the Sovereign LORD.” This prediction was partially fulfilled when Nebuchadnezzar destroyed the city and left it in ruins. However, the stones, dust and timber were not thrown into the sea. Then Alexander the Great attacked the seemingly impregnable Island of Tyre by taking the stones, dust, and timber from the ruined mainland city and building a causeway to the Island. Not only has the city never been rebuilt; today it literally is used as a place “to spread fishing nets.”
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
You may a quibble or two regarding some of the tenets, but WHAT exactly is "farcical" about the 'Focus on the Family'? Which of the Six Pillars of their Mission Statement do you oppose? And why? Mission Statement: To cooperate with the Holy Spirit in sharing the Gospel of Jesus Christ with as many people as possible by nurturing and defending the God-ordained institution of the family and promoting biblical truths worldwide. Vision: Redeemed families, communities, and societies worldwide through Christ. Guiding Principles: Since Focus on the Family's primary reason for existence is to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ through a practical outreach to homes, we have firm beliefs about both the Christian faith and the importance of the family. This ministry is therefore based upon six guiding philosophies that are apparent at every level throughout the organization. These "pillars" are drawn from the wisdom of the Bible and the Judeo-Christian ethic, rather than from the humanistic notions of today's theorists. In short, Focus on the Family is a reflection of what we believe to be the recommendations of the Creator Himself, who ordained the family and gave it His blessing. The six pillars include: The Preeminence of Evangelism We believe that the ultimate purpose of life is to know and glorify God and to attain eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord, beginning within our own families and then reaching out to a suffering humanity that needs to embrace His love and sacrifice. "He said to them, 'Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation.'" Mark 16:15 The Permanence of Marriage We believe that the institution of marriage is a sacred covenant designed by God to model the love of Christ for His people and to serve both the public and private good as the basic building block of human civilization. Marriage is intended by God to be a thriving, lifelong relationship between a man and a woman enduring through trials, sickness, financial crises and emotional stresses. Therefore, Christians are called to defend and protect God's marriage design and to minister in Christ's name to those who suffer the consequences of its brokenness. "'Haven't you read,' He replied, 'that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.'" Matthew 19:4-6 The Value of Children We believe that children are a heritage from God and a blessing from His hand. Parents are therefore accountable to Him for raising, shaping and preparing them for a life of service to His Kingdom and to humanity. "Has not the Lord made them [a husband and wife] one? In flesh and spirit they are His. And why one? Because He was seeking godly offspring." Malachi 2:15 The Sanctity of Human Life We believe that human life is created by God in His image. It is of inestimable worth and significance in all its dimensions, including the preborn, the aged, the mentally disabled, those deemed unattractive, the physically challenged, and every other condition in which humanness is expressed from the single cell stage of development to natural death. Christians are therefore called to defend, protect, and value all human life. "For You created my inmost being; You knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise You because I am fearfully and wonderfully made." Psalm 139:13-14a The Importance of Social Responsibility We believe that God has ordained the social institutions of family, church, and government for the benefit of mankind and as a reflection of His divine nature. Therefore, Christians are called to support these institutions, according to God's design and purpose, and to protect them against destructive social influences. Such involvement is in obedience to Christ's lordship over all creation and is required by His command to care for the well-being of all people. "For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh." Genesis 2:24 "And God placed all things under His feet and appointed Him to be head over everything for the church, which is His body." Ephesians 1:22-23a "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God." Romans 13:1 The Value of Male and Female We believe that God created humans in His image, intentionally male and female, each bringing unique and complementary qualities to sexuality and relationships. Sexuality is a glorious gift from God to be offered back to Him either in marriage for procreation, union and mutual delight or in celibacy for undivided devotion to Christ. Christians are called to proclaim the truth and beauty of God's design and the redemption of sexual brokenness in our lives and culture through Jesus Christ. "Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God – this is your spiritual act of worship. Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is – His good, pleasing and perfect will." Romans 12:1-2
Is Thomas Jefferson your god? Why the obsession on him? How did they "write Jefferson out of American history"? Citation please.
what it doesn't say - don't waste your time - breath - tears - God wills that none suffer - perish - You just lost me; Are you now intimating that after our mortal physical shell passes on, that EVERY soul neither dies or suffers as a result of Judgement?
The Doom of Edom (Petra). Unlike many Old Testament predictions of doom, Edom was not promised any restoration, only “perpetual desolation.” Jeremiah wrote in 49:16–17: “ ‘The terror you inspire and the pride of your heart have deceived you, you who live in the clefts of the rocks, who occupy the heights of the hill. Though you build your nest as high as the eagle’s, from there I will bring you down,’ declares the Lord. ‘Edom will become an object of horror; all who pass by will be appalled and will scoff because of all its wounds.’ ” Given the virtually impregnable nature of the ancient city carved out of rock and protected by a narrow passage way, this was an incredible prediction. Yet, in A.D. 636 it was conquered by Muslims and stands deserted but for tourist and passers by.
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
Daniel 2:37–42: The Succession of Great World Kingdoms. An amazing prediction in the Bible is the succession of the world empires of Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome by Daniel. Interpreting the metallic man in the dream of King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon, he told Nebuchadnezzar”: ‘You, O king, are the king of kings. . . . You are that head of gold. After you, another kingdom will rise, inferior to yours. Next, a third kingdom, one of bronze, will rule over the whole earth. Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others’ ” (Dan. 2:38–40). So precise and accurate is this prophecy that even negative critics agree that Daniel spoke in order of Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. Critics try to avoid the supernatural nature of the prophecy by claiming these words were written after the fact, in about 165 B.C. But there is no real substantiation for this claim.
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
Are they still asserting that America's founders intended this to be a Christian nation?
Nope, but he's the primary author of the Declaration of Independence. Because his American ideals should be conserved. And that's not obsessive, it's Conservative.
“Should not the Bible regain the place it once held as a school book? Its morals are pure, its examples, captivating and noble. In no book is there so good English, so pure and so elegant; and by teaching all the same book, they will speak alike, and the Bible will justly remain the standard of language as wellas of faith.” Fisher Ames: Author of the First Amendment
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
We didn't! Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists was never included in the Constitution or The Bill of Rights. It was simply a tool for Secularists to gain power by misusing the power of the courts. "Christianity becomes not merely an auxiliary, but a guide, to the law of nature; establishing its conclusions, removing its doubts, and elevating its precepts." Joseph Story, "The Value and Importance of Legal Studies," a lecture delivered August 25, 1829 at his inauguration as Dane Professor of Law in Harvard University, cited in James McClellan, Joseph Story and the American Constitution (Norman, OK: University of Oklahoma, 1971), p. 66. Story served as Associate Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court from 1811-1845, and founded the Harvard Law School.
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
Liar Liar. "Before approving the standards on Friday, board members adopted scores of additional changes - including the restoration of Thomas Jefferson's name to a list of political philosophers that students will study in world history. Board members had come under criticism for removing Jefferson's name earlier this year though they pointed out that Jefferson would still be studied in other areas of the curriculum such as U.S. history and government." What do "Remove" and "Restore" mean? Ooops!
What was the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom, and who Authored that - along with primary authorship of the Declaration of Independence? Let's see what he had to say: "Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word "Jesus Christ," so that it should read, "a departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and Infidel of every denomination." --Thomas Jefferson http://www.google.com/#q=Christian+and+Mahometan%2C+the+Hindoo%2C+and+Infidel+of+every+denomination What does "the insertion was rejected by a great majority," mean?
In governance or in our morals, ethics, and values? I hope you're not asserting that Focus on the Family believes the USA ought to be a "Theocracy." Because that would be a crock. Btw, I'm still trying to learn why your consider the 'Focus on the Family' a "farce." If you can find a better example of citizenship tenets, I'm all ears. Q: In your opinion, is the United States of America better off abiding in their "Six Pillars," or with the way things are at the moment?
"Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word "Jesus Christ," so that it should read, "a departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and Infidel of every denomination." --Thomas Jefferson Where does Focus on the Family articulate that historical FACT?
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And he had several FF authors review several drafts. That makes him a co-author of an outline and idea that numerous other FFs contributed to, logistically facilitated, or sacrificed for. Because his American ideals should be conserved. And that's not obsessive, it's Conservative. But the ideal of "America" are a collaborative effort. Jefferson is merely on wheel in the cog. Truth is, NO USA would ever have been established were all the Founders TJ's brand of Deism. ONLY because the majority of Founders were Christian, wwas this collaboration able to take place. www.google.com/#q=Texas+Curriculum+Jefferson AUSTIN, Tex. — After three days of turbulent meetings, the Texas Board of Education on Friday approved a social studies curriculum that will put a conservative stamp on history and economics textbooks, stressing the superiority of American capitalism, questioning the Founding Fathers’ commitment to a purely secular government and presenting Republican political philosophies in a more positive light... ...In recent years, board members have been locked in an ideological battle between a bloc of conservatives who question Darwin’s theory of evolution and believe the Founding Fathers were guided by Christian principles, and a handful of Democrats and moderate Republicans who have fought to preserve the teaching of Darwinism and the separation of church and state. AMEN!! It's all good! http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/education/13texas.html?_r=0 Oh yeah -- and then how radical! Btw -- according the Leftist hacks at the New York Times, Thomas Jefferson was "cut from a list of figures whose writings inspired revolutions in the late 18th century and 19th century...." Now tell me -- exactly WHAT writings of his "inspired revolutions"?? Answer: NONE. Again, Jefferson more or less spoke for the ENTIRE GROUP. Whose writings and big idea DID inspire others?: St. Thomas Aquinas, John Calvin and William Blackstone. BINGO. Look up what each of them did. Then compare them to TJ. Thomas Jeffeson does not nearly represent all the Founders; Moreover, the ONLY reason the Lefties ONLY mention TJ out of all the FFs is because of his oft misquoted, misunderstood, invented phrase, "Separation of Church and State." Lastly, you asserted that the 'Focus on the Family' "write Jefferson out of American history." Bogus.
Most of the Founders felt the same way about the Bible, and made it mandatory reading in American schooling for decades.
Here, let me help you with that: ============= Your search - Thomas Jefferson "Virginia Act" site:www.focusonthefamily.com - did not match any documents. Suggestions:
"the insertion [of Jesus Christ] was rejected by a great majority," What does this mean?
I forget - How many wives did King David have again?
Ooops! Your reading comprehension is sorely lacking. Read it again and weep: Capisce?? That's right -- read it again in its proper context. The Texas school board removed Jefferson from the "political philosophers" category, but already remained in the "US History" and "Government" sections. Geez -- did you alkso want him mentioned in the "Religion" or "Messiah" categories as well?? Give it up. This story is written very ambiguously, and you took the bait, as had many. Afterall, it IS the New York Times. It's said they have an agenda. And McAudience. HELLO.
Answer: NONE. LOL. Are you serious - The Declaration of Independence didn't inspire a revolution? I'm pretty sure it "inspired" the American Revolution - as well as others: On August 30, 1945, Hồ Chí Minh invited several people to contribute their ideas toward his Proclamation of Independence. OSS officers met repeatedly with Ho Chi Minh and other Viet Minh officers during late August and Archimedes Patti claims to have listened to Ho read to him a draft of the Proclamation which he believed sounded very similar to the American Declaration of Independence.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proclamation_of_Independence_of_the_Democratic_Republic_of_Vietnam http://www.google.com/#q=ho+chi+minh+%22declaration+of+independence%22 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_in_the_Minds_of_Men
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ETERNAL HOSTILITY AGAINST EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY
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What does Junior Graham think Thomas Jefferson had in his Free Mind?
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When the end of time machine turns on -
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"The secularists and the humanists … you mention the name of Christ, they jump all over you," Graham contended. "I get jumped on all the time. I don't really care."
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Should that be news to Graham or anyone else?
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Focus on the Family farce
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Their [Focus on the Family] revisionist kinsmen down in Texas who tried to write Thomas Jefferson out of American history.
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Read between the lines ...
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Is Thomas Jefferson your god?
Why the obsession on him?
How did they "write Jefferson out of American history"?
#27. To: VxH, Liberator (#25)
Are they still asserting that America's founders intended this to be a Christian nation?
#28. To: VxH (#26)
How did they "write Jefferson out of American history"?
#29. To: GarySpFC (#28)
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We didn't!
www.dallasnews.com/news/e...ucation-approves-9206.ece
#30. To: GarySpFC (#27)
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#31. To: VxH (#25)
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Are they [Focus on the Family'] still asserting that America's founders intended this to be a Christian nation?
#32. To: Liberator (#31)
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In governance or in our morals, ethics, and values?
#33. To: Liberator (#31)
What does this mean?
#34. To: VxH, GarySpFC (#26)
He's [Jefferson] the primary author of the Declaration of Independence.
Why the obsession on him?
How did they "write Jefferson out of American history"?
#35. To: GarySpFC (#27)
“Should not the Bible regain the place it once held as a school book? Its morals are pure, its examples, captivating and noble. In no book is there so good English, so pure and so elegant; and by teaching all the same book, they will speak alike, and the Bible will justly remain the standard of language as wellas of faith.” ~ Fisher Ames: Author of the First Amendment
#36. To: Liberator (#34)
astly, you asserted that the 'Focus on the Family' "write Jefferson out of American history." Bogus.
Where does the Farce on the Family discuss the Virginia Act for the Establishment of Religious Freedom on their extensive website?
#37. To: Liberator (#35)
Most of the Founders felt the same way
#38. To: Liberator (#35)
Its morals are pure, its examples, captivating and noble.
#39. To: VxH, GarySpFC (#29)
What do "Remove" and "Restore" mean?
Board members had come under criticism for removing Jefferson's name [from list of political philosophers]...Earlier this year though they pointed out that [in any case] Jefferson would still be studied in other areas of the curriculum such as U.S. history and government."
#40. To: Liberator (#34)
Now tell me -- exactly WHAT writings of his "inspired revolutions"??
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