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Title: Police change tactics, call tanks "armor protected ambulances" and rescue vehicles
Source: Mass Private
URL Source: http://massprivatei.blogspot.com/20 ... tatcis-call-tanks-armored.html
Published: Feb 6, 2015
Author: Mass Private
Post Date: 2015-02-13 09:20:58 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 10465
Comments: 46

 

In the above video a police officer actually calls it an armored ambulance can you believe this crap?
 
Not a tank? It's as though police are reading from a script. Oh, right they are and its Homeland Security's B.S. script.
 
Council members in San Leandro, Calif. voted in favor of allowing the city to use a grant to purchase a controversial armored rescue vehicle.
 
The Medevac Armored vehicle is the only one of its kind in Northern California.
 
"This is such a big step in the wrong direction (and) relations in the community," said Mia Ousley, who opposes the city purchasing armored rescue vehicle. "This is a tank."
 
Mike Katz-Lacabe, who also opposes the armored rescue vehicle, said "this ambulance comes with 11 gun ports -- that's not an ambulance."
 
Police said they have borrowed a similar vehicle from other agencies nine times over the past two years. The vehicle would mostly be paid by a $200,000 Homeland Security grant.

DHS wants police departments to have armored tanks & armored ambulances, why not just give them M1 Abrams tanks and stop the lying?

Below are numerous disturbing stories of DHS giving police armored ambulances:

It’s a tool, it’s not a weapon,” said Vacaville, Calif. Police Chief John Carli.

Carli described the vehicle as a “bullet-resistant people mover” to be used in high-risk situations.

He claimed the vehicle would not be used when dealing with protests or other demonstrations, as it is part of SWAT and not the Mobile Field Force that is responsible for protests.

If you're wondering what the Mobile Field Force is, below is an excerpt from their website:

"The NIPAS Mobile Field Force was created in the Spring of 1994 to maximized the effectiveness of initial response efforts by police when a major civil disturbance occurs. Civil disturbances, union conflicts, public demonstrations, and other events involving large or disorderly crowds require skillful response by police agencies."

Police across the country train with the DHS & the military learning how to quell protestors etc.

Click here, here & here to find out more.

Police are trained to use armored rescue vehicles against protestors and used them in Ferguson, MO.

A search for 'armored rescue vehicles on 'Police The Law Enforcement Magazine' looks like a special forces website.

Another search of law enforcement publications revealed two disturbing articles one titled 'Tactics For Police Armored Rescue Vehicles'. Try not to vomit as you read it. It's basically a military or DHS how-to-guide for using a tank, but I digress.

Here's an excerpt about the effectiveness of their use during what's called "Rowdy Crowd Control"

"ARVs are extremely effective in riot and rowdy crowd situations, offering officers protection from assault, thrown objects, and gunfire. Police in Europe have been using ARVs to quell riots for many years. However, unlike our European counterparts, American ARVs are not supported by water cannon trucks.

The psychological advantage of ARVs in crowd/riot situations cannot be underestimated. A good example is the tactical team that deployed its vehicle against a large crowd of rioters throwing rocks and bottles at police. The instant the ARV appeared, the rioters ran away. The vehicles are also a proven, effective counter-measure against snipers, one of the hallmarks of urban riots.

ARVs make excellent rolling chemical and less-lethal launching platforms. With almost no difficulty, they can also negotiate most obstacles rioters place in the way to obstruct police. In Germany, it is common for police ARVs to operate with clearing blades to remove manmade barriers such as downed trees, or flipped or flaming vehicles. A police ARV is often the vehicle of choice to spearhead a mobile field force convoy. Members of an entire mobile field force will become more confident because of the vehicle’s presence."


So its an effective use against snipers, good to know. But how many protests have had snipers shooting at police?

Anyone? NOT A GODDAMN ONE.

Armored ambulances are being used for "psychological advantage" to quell demonstrations across the country!

DHS run police departments are training their officers to use them like our military would.

The second article entitled 'Police Armored Vehicles: Tactical Rescues Considerations' reveals how police are using them like Spec-Ops soldiers would.

"In neighborhoods where respect for the law is thin and bad guys think that they can deal with any responding police, the appearance and intervention of a no-nonsense police armored rescue vehicle (ARV) can make them reconsider. Most law enforcement agencies have experienced incidents where bad guys surrender without further resistance when the ARV arrives. If part of the mission is medical evacuation of the wounded, sick, or injured, then the arrival of the vehicle has expedited the rescue and medical care.

A basic medical evacuation tactic is to position the ARV between the armed bad guy(s) and the wounded person(s). Then the wounded are loaded into the ARV. Buildings and terrain features can be utilized by the ARV’s driver to provide addition cover. In other situations ARVs can be used for observation, gaining entry into barricaded buildings, and protection of the team. Kevlar skirts can be placed onto hooks on the exterior of an ARV prior to deploying it into rescue situations. These skirts are optional ARV protective equipment rather than an integral part of ARV rescues; they hang to the ground to prevent ricochets.

Once the casualties are loaded into the ARV and a decision has been made for it to transport the casualties to a secured, soft skin ambulance or medical facility, law enforcement personnel should be given the word it is leaving. The reason? The arrival of an ARV is a law enforcement morale builder, and its departure can be a let down. The size of the ARV rescue crew will vary depending on the situation, and it is often accompanied by a rescue team on foot using the ARV as cover."

If you think America has turned into a battlefield you'd be right, its protestors & activists who've become the enemy. When was the last time a protestor used a high-powered AP or HE round that could penetrate these so-called ambulances" in the U.S.?

NEVER, It's all a lie.

West Bloomfield Police Chief Michael Patton said that a number of vehicles were deployed to the scene and were used to either protect the lives of the police and fire responders, or to rescue residents who were hiding in their homes in the neighborhood.

“People always sit back and refer to it as a tank. It’s not a tank; it doesn’t shoot anything,” Patton said. “There is a lot of misunderstanding as to why agencies would want something like this. … From an occupational safety standpoint, we’re obligated to provide protective measures to our staff.”

Does this look like a rescue vehicles to you?


The vehicle, called "Rescue One," would serve as an armored rescue vehicle, Horn County Police Chief Saundra Rhodes said. It can accommodate 10 tactical officers during transportation operations; cross rivers with a depth of 3 feet; drive over large obstacles and debris; and enable rescue from rooftops, according to the agency.

Horry County, South Carolina police unveiled Rescue 1 on Monday, the department’s first armored Caiman vehicle that will be available for rescues and hazardous transportation.

The 60,728 pound vehicle is a military surplus vehicle that came from Sealy, Texas and was obtained through a federal program administered by the S.C. Budget and Control Board, Horry County police Chief Saundra Rhodes said Monday.

Click here to find out more about Lenco's Bearcat Medevac tactical vehicles.

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#6. To: Deckard, *Bang List* (#0) (Edited)

When was the last time a protestor used a high-powered AP or HE round that could penetrate these so-called ambulances" in the U.S.?

The appearance of one of these armored vehicles is the internationally recognized signal, to lock and load the black tipped Armor Piercing ammo.

30-06 AP


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-02-14   19:12:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Deckard (#0)

In the above video a police officer actually calls it an armored ambulance can you believe this crap?

I think that if I were a EMT working in the city of Detroit,I would quit if I didn't have one of these to ride in at work. Being unarmed and riding in a vehicle known to carry drugs in Detroit makes being a EMT there one of the most dangerous jobs in the US.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-14   19:35:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: hondo68 (#6)

Ahhhh,the M1 Garand! IMHO,the finest infantry rifle ever produced.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-14   19:37:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Deckard (#3)

The right-wing domestic terror plot you didn’t hear about this week



Fllowing the murder of two NYPD officers in New York City, much of the political right moved to blame Mayor de Blasio and other progressive critics of police brutality for inciting the violence, claiming that the mentally ill man who was behind the attack was motivated by left-wing rhetoric.

That narrative doesn’t fit very well with a terror case brought this week by the FBI against three Georgia men, all members of a right-wing militia that plotted to attack police and others. Wednesday, Terry Peace, Brian Cannon and Cory Williamson pleaded not guilty to a charge of domestic terrorism, as well as charges of conspiring to defraud the government. Northwest Georgia News explains:


Is this what it's come down to....militas vs the cops?




In other words, the men plotted to launch large-scale explosive attacks against local government and police that, if successfully carried out, would have been the largest terror attacks on U.S. soil since 9/11.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-14   19:42:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Deckard (#3) (Edited)

Edit: Sorry, the links do not work....Chart removed.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-14   19:52:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Deckard (#3)

U.S. right wing extremists more deadly than jihadists.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-14   19:56:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Deckard (#3)

The Greater Danger: Military-Trained Right-Wing Extremists.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-14   19:59:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Gatlin (#11)

U.S. right wing extremists more deadly than jihadists.

Do you really believe your post? Are you drunk or daffy this fine evening?

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-02-14   20:00:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Gatlin, *Bill of Rights-Constitution* (#9) (Edited)

Peace, Cannon and Williamson allegedly traveled to Tennessee and met with an undercover FBI source about obtaining explosive devices. The unidentified source reportedly gave the men some inert explosives in Cartersville, Georgia, on Feb. 15, 2014. The men were arrested that day and originally arraigned in March of 2014.

www.opposingviews.com/i/s...s-obama-soft-terror-video

Lindsey Graham gave them a mess of corn bread fixings, or sumpthin'?

A thought crime, comrade.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-02-14   20:01:00 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Deckard (#3)

Read: How much does right-wing rhetoric contribute to right-wing terrorism?

The 2014 Las Vegas shootings occurred on June 8, 2014 in northeastern Las Vegas, Nevada, when a married couple, Jerad and Amanda Miller, committed a shooting spree in which five people died, including themselves. The couple, who espoused extreme anti-government views, first killed two Las Vegas police officers at a restaurant before fleeing into a Walmart, where they killed an intervening armed civilian. The couple died after engaging responding officers in a shootout; police shot and killed Jerad, while Amanda committed suicide after being wounded.

Tracing Jared Miller's Descent into Extremism

Jared Miller’s online activities—particularly on his Facebook and You Tube accounts—provide unique insights into his beliefs and intentions that would lead to the deadly attack committed on June 8, 2014 in Las Vegas by him and his wife, Amanda Miller.

It seems that Miller’s extremist actions and voiced frustration regarding his legal problems were nurtured by the anti-government movements and related propaganda that he began following on the internet. As time went on, Miller’s posts, along with being more frequent, began to rhetorically mirror the content that he was following and sharing on social media. Eventually, Miller would become active in such anti-government causes outside of his internet life and in the real world, ultimately ending in his death and four others’.

Initial Expressions of Frustration

Miller’s Facebook presence, despite being angry at times, was sparse and relatively calm from 2010 through 2011. In this two year span, Miller liked eight pages—only one of which, “Support Legalizing Marijuana,” being political in nature. He made only six posts made in this time, most of which pertaining to his personal life. His first post reads, “chillin, enjoyin my job at mc donalds. anxious about my upcoming court date on april 11. ftp!”

Miller’s first post directly regarding the government was made on May 2, 2011. It reads in a casual and non-alerting manner:

life is funny if you dont find it so horrific. sometimes u just gotta roll with the punches anf forgive the gov for its stupidity.

His distaste for the government was likely prompted by his legal problems with drug possession and distribution, allegedly starting in 2007. Namely, Miller would comment on his experience as a drug dealer in March 2012 in his first You Tube video under his account, “USATruePatriot.” The video, titled “real reason for violence.AVI,” begins by detailing why he needed a gun to protect himself as a drug dealer. Throughout the video, Miller claims that he was never violent in his practices. However, as the video goes on, Miller begins turning his past accounts into an argument that prohibition creates violence.

Six days after posting this video, Miller made a Facebook post expressing paranoia that he was being monitored. It reads:

good moring everyone! I know its early, but I feel I need to let you all know something. Perhaps before the government takes me away as a domestic terrorist or something. Everytime I watch a video on youtube about government corruption or anything like that it buffers I or I get isconnected from the internet. Seems suspicios to me.

Increasingly Aggressive Rhetoric

Miller’s posts from this time period also imply that he was alienating his family members with his extreme views. In a post made on October 27, 2012, Miller wrote of his grandmother chastising him over his attitude regarding his alleged probationary urine tests. He wrote, “I was harsh on her, but it was something she needed to hear,” and then followed with a sizable rant on the drug war. Two users, whom Miller addressed as “dear cousins,” commented in disagreement, citing a mutual relative’s death. The argument eventually became hostile, with Miller stating, “Stop this ignorance all of you! God fucking damnit!” Miller also stated:

it is not your right or your privelage to tell another human being what he may or may not fucking do! fuck! cant you see how brainwashed you are!

It was also in 2012 that Miller began following politically conservative pages on Facebook. Such pages varied in levels of extremity and focus, with relatively moderate groups including “Downsizing the Federal Government,” a Cato institute project focused on shrinking federal government programs, and various libertarian politicians’ pages like Ron Paul and Gary Johnson. More extreme pages included that of radio talk show host Alex Jones, a widely- known conspiracy theorist and voice of anti-government causes.

The posting and sharing of anti-government content on Miller’s Facebook page had also begun increasing at a rapid pace. Such content included a video by Jones, titled “Alex Jones Historic Plan to Save America,” which Miller posted on his Facebook page on November 18, 2012. In the video, Jones makes no direct calls for violence, but expresses that he feels no fear of death in “signaling the beginning of the second American Revolution, the restoration, and the spirit of 1776,” and urges that “this is time for commitment, for spiritual decision” as Americans fight off the “new world order.”

Miller had previously posted another You Tube video to his Facebook page on November 7, 2012. The video, titled “U.S. Army prepares to invade U.S. NDAA,” was posted by user “skb0rzn” and claims that “government plans to suspend the constitution and affect martial law” have been in progress for decades, and implies the “tables have been set” for citizens resistant to such laws to be “dealt with as terrorists” by the government.

Miller also became active on an Alex Jones online forum, Planet Infowars, in 2012. On May 28, 2012, Miller posted a long entry titled, “The Police (To Kill Or Not To Kill?).” In the post, Miller claimed, “I am like a wild coyote. You corner me, I will fight to the death.” The post ends on a grimly ironic note, reading:

So, do I kill cops and make a stand when they come to get me? I would prefer to die than sit in their jail, when I have done nothing to hurt anyone.

His hostile and alienating attitude only increased into 2013. In a January 1, 2013 Facebook post, Miller stated:

This is a declaration to all Americans. If you dont agree with and hold dear the second amendment of the united states constitution, then you, need to self deport yourself to someplace where people like you can congregate.

The long post ends with the statement:

If you do not wish to be hung from light posts because of your opinion on the second amendment, you need to leave. God gave us these rights, and if you try to take them away, we will send you to Him to discuss where you fucked up.

On May 13 of that year, Miller touched back on his legal troubles once more in a Facebook post claiming that he

stood before a fascist judge today and implied that he was a Nazi. I told him I did not recognize his authority over me and reminded him that 2 states now have legalized weed for recreational use.

His alleged actions seem to speak to a post made earlier that year on January 30, wherein he stated that he would no longer “acknowledge unconstitutional laws or authority figures,” adding:

I was unlawfully imprisoned due to my actions that did not involve a victim. I am the victim of tyranny and the federal government and the local authorities have violated my rights for the last time.

Following this post, Miller claimed in another Facebook post on July 21, 2013 to be preparing for prison. Miller stated that he was trying to “enjoy this last day” with Amanda Miller before being incarcerated “for 7 weeks.” In another Facebook post made the day before, Miller expressed frustration in going to jail “for the creation and cultivation of the plant marijuana on the planet earth.” Miller’s next Facebook post was made on September 18, 2013, and implied a perceived sense of duty on his part. The post reads, “Sweet sweet freedom, I am back guys. Now I have to get back to restoring our rights!”

Language Shift

Along with posting more frequently, Miller’s language was becoming increasingly akin to the material he had been following on social media— resonating more of political speeches and propaganda than the casual tone he had used in earlier posts. In a Facebook post on October 1, 2013, Miller addressed his friends as “brothers and sisters,” using revolution-echoing phrases like “our numbers grow day by day,” “die free than live as slaves,” and “unleash the peoples wrath upon tyranny.” The post then went on to establish a sort of manifesto, reading:

We will not only free the people here, we will give way to a new era of freedom and prosperity. Where the law does not favor the rich. Money will only be a means to an end. Laws will not protect patent holders who wish to keep technology on the shelf.

Miller closed the post by stating that his proposed society wouldn’t come to be “without some bloodshed.”

Miller was also beginning to post videos onto his You Tube channel more frequently, and to a similar tone. In these videos, he appears to take on the persona of an educator, reading from packets of notes on his lap and looking into the camera with a calm certainty in what he saying. The videos appear similar to his first video, but starkly contrasts his better-known satirical video from 2012, wherein he dressed up as the Joker from the Batman series in a sarcastic bid for president while citing current government policies.

By 2014, Miller had a steady stream of anti-government content on his Facebook feed, having liked over 100 politically-focused pages—many of which anti-government in nature and simlar in extremity of tone. Such pages then included that of Operation American Spring, a failed protest that, though asserting itself to be nonviolent, proclaimed it would “be a gigantic step in removing the flea infestation that is sucking the blood out of America.”

Activity off the Internet

In 2014, Miller had also become active outside of the internet. He had allegedly traveled to participate in the stand-off at Bundy Ranch in April, 2014, wherein Las Vegas rancher Cliven Bundy and numerous armed supporters staked out his cattle ranch in an attempt to keep out Bureau of Land Management (BLM) enforcement officials demanding Bundy pay fees for grazing his cattle on federal land. In an April 9 Facebook post, Miller claimed, “I will be supporting Clive Bundy and his family from Federal Government slaughter,” then adding, “We must do something, I will be doing something.” Miller would later claim to have seen the stand-off in a May 25 Facebook post stating, “I was down at the Bundy ranch. BLM snipers were all over the place.”

Miller can also be seen in a picture from two months before the Bundy Ranch stand-off, posing with Richard Mack, the former Sherriff of Graham County, Arizona and 2006 Libertarian Candidate for the US Senate. Mack was also an active participant in the Bundy Ranch stand-off, controversially stating his tactic to the media of putting women in front of potential lines of fire, stating:

If [BLM enforcement teams] are going to start shooting, it’s going to be women that are going to be televised all across the world getting shot by these rogue federal officers.

Conclusion

How much of Miller’s violent actions on June 8, 2014 should be attributed to his instability and feeling “cornered” by law enforcement as opposed to what he was reading and watching online is immeasurable. However, his radicalization—as measured by his rhetorical shift from casual language toward that of revolutionary contexts—simultaneously intensified with his increasing likes and posts of content by anti-government social media pages. The content of these pages, along with associable events like the Bundy Ranch stand-off, contributed to Miller’s perception of a coming revolution. It was likely these events, conspiracy theories, and rhetoric that provided Miller with a platform to house his frustrations—granting his anger an ideological framework, and eventually transforming it into a deadly agenda.

In the week leading to the shooting, Miller made twenty-four Facebook posts. The last one, made on June 7, 2014, just a day before the shooting, reads, “The dawn of a new day. May all of our coming sacrifices be worth it.”

http://news.siteintelgroup.com/blog/index.php/entry/190-tracing- jared-miller-s-descent-into-extremism.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-14   20:07:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Pridie.Nones (#13)

Do you really believe your post?

Not all of them, of course not....however some of them have me thinking.

I am trying to disprove the numbers in Post #10....can you help with that?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-14   20:16:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: hondo68 (#14)

From your link:

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) appeared on Fox News this week where he tried to link the terrorist attack in Paris, France, to President Obama's policies.

Graham told Fox News host Martha MacCallum that President Obama thought "strength was offensive" and added, "He doesn't want to be bold because he may offend somebody"

Is Lindsey Graham wrong?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-14   20:19:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Gatlin (#15) (Edited)

The 2014 Las Vegas shootings occurred on June 8, 2014 in northeastern Las Vegas, Nevada, when a married couple, Jerad and Amanda Miller, committed a shooting spree in which five people died, including themselves. The couple, who espoused extreme anti-government views, first killed two Las Vegas police officers at a restaurant before fleeing into a Walmart, where they killed an intervening armed civilian.

I carry conceal, 24/7 because of this shit. I look forward to the day that I can end the life of someone like these two. Being retired and plain clothes, I'll have a better advantage.

They had a flawed plan. Blinded by hate. That blind hate for government, hate for cops... and hate that cops are so well armed and equipped will be catalyst that will cement in history, the need to hire more cops, arm them better and allow them to treat everyone as a potential threat.

They are LE job security.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-02-14   20:24:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: GrandIsland (#18)

I look forward to the day that I can end the life of someone like these two.

Is that a "Christian" plan or a "Muslim" plan?

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-02-14   20:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: GrandIsland (#18)

I carry conceal, 24/7 because of this shit.

Great move...only way to go!

In Arizona, a person over age 21 may legally carry a concealed firearm or deadly weapon without a permit within the state, except for certain prohibited locations, and must disclose the fact to a law enforcement officer if questioned. Although no longer required, a CCW permit may still be obtained and has certain advantages, including reciprocity with many other states having CCW laws.

Arizona law makers made it easy for the residents.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-14   20:32:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Gatlin (#16)

No.

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-02-14   20:34:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Pridie.Nones, GrandIsland (#19)

I look forward to the day that I can end the life of someone like these two.

Is that a "Christian" plan or a "Muslim" plan?

I would say it is a "Active Self Protection Plan."

You usually don't get any advanced warning, so a "Active Self Protection Plan" must be ready when it starts.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-14   20:35:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Pridie.Nones (#21)

No.

I understand.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-14   20:36:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Pridie.Nones (#19)

Is that a "Christian" plan or a "Muslim" plan?

Neither.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-02-14   20:36:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Gatlin (#22)

You usually don't get any advanced warning, so a "Active Self Protection Plan" must be ready when it starts.

Does this mean you have receded from societal and legal obligations? sn't your post about being a terrorist?

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-02-14   20:38:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Gatlin (#12)

The Greater Danger: Military-Trained Right-Wing Extremists.

More SPLC Propaganda?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-02-14   20:39:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: GrandIsland (#24)

What do you really know other than worshipping Washington DC and collecting a stipend for being a cross-guard at a local school.

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-02-14   20:40:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Gatlin (#15)

Chapel Hill Suspected Shooter Fan of SPLC, Rachel Maddow

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-02-14   20:41:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Pridie.Nones (#27) (Edited)

What do you really know

I know that Jerad and Amanda Miller will never domestically terrorize my country, ever again. An armed citizen helped end their activism. lol

Are you upset over the Millers demise?

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-02-14   20:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: GrandIsland (#29)

You worship the Police-State, "yes" or "no"?"

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-02-14   20:51:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Pridie.Nones (#30)

You worship the Police-State, "yes" or "no"?"

That's like asking me if I worship FEMA camps.

lol

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-02-14   20:57:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Gatlin, Skittles Canaries (#17)

You need an armored ambulance because you have gold teef like Trayvon?


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-02-14   20:59:26 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Deckard (#28)

Craig Hicks, the suspect charged in the murders, is an atheist, a fan of the Southern Poverty Law Center and likes MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow.

Jared Miller became active on an Alex Jones online forum, Planet Infowars.

All this proves that Hicks and Miller were irresponsible and liked to follow assholes who cause anger, annoyance and even chaos to generally create negativity and angst.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-14   21:48:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Gatlin (#33)

All this proves that Hicks and Miller were irresponsible and liked to follow assholes who cause anger, annoyance and even chaos to generally create negativity and angst.

So, you admit that the posts about 'extreme right wing blahblah' doesnt mean anything?

Funny how much time you spend posting your drivel then.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-02-15   1:29:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Dead Culture Watch (#34) (Edited)

So, you admit...

Funny how much time you spend posting your drivel then.

I admit that it is even funnier how my mysterious influence causes you to spend so much time reading my posts. My self-confidence, magnetic personality and authenticity radiates so powerfully it obviously draws you towards me instinctively.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-15   4:25:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Pridie.Nones (#13) (Edited)

U.S. right wing extremists more deadly than jihadists.

I remember there was a thread/article about this over at LP about a year or so ago. And it conveniently left out any mention of Left Wing wacko extremists.

When the subject was broached by another poster the poster of the article said something to the effect that "They don't exist anymore".

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-15   8:53:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: TEA Party Reveler (#4)

I was coming back from Federal Court, rolled down my car window, flipped them all off and screamed ''Another Porker Pig Cop has croaked----Good Riddance!".....LOL!

Are you mentally ill? Or do you just us a tea party name and pretend to be mentally ill?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-15   9:46:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: GrandIsland (#18)

I look forward to the day that I can end the life of someone like these two. Being retired and plain clothes, I'll have a better advantage.

You sound like the way the left describes Zimmerman.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-15   9:51:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: A K A Stone (#38) (Edited)

You sound like the way the left describes Zimmerman.

The left likes its populace weak.

We need to take our country back. The armed populace needs to step up to the challenge. LE can't be our only solution for personal safety or to end violent crimes in progress. They aren't everywhere, and we don't need a society where LE is armed and everywhere (that IMHO is the definition of a police state).

We need more historic events like this, an armed civilian ends the life of a crazy lunatic causing harm. This will provide two much needed ideals for our populace to live by....

A reason to never infringe the 2nd amendment

A deterrent for criminal assholes to not engage in violent crime. Kinda like the Getz subway incident in NYC, years back.

The armed civilian that stopped one of the agenda driven turdbags, is a hero. A true patriot. A shining star for the 2nd amendment. I'd gladly step up to the challenge and replicate his actions if given the chance.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-02-15   10:13:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: CZ82 (#36)

I remember there was a thread/article about this over at LP about a year or so ago. And it conveniently left out any mention of Left Wing wacko extremists.

When the subject was broached by another poster the poster of the article said something to the effect that "They don't exist anymore".

Left-wing v. right-wing violence.

A page about "left-wing" terror and violence versus "right-wing" terror and violence - concentrating on the USA. Political people love to blame their opponents for the acts of extremist and deranged people. Sometimes there is some justification for this. But often this is just playing politics.

On this page I criticise the media and the left for playing politics but I do not deny that terrorists and killers can be right-wing, or left- wing, or just mentally ill.

Click here to read the article.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-15   10:51:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Gatlin (#40)

On this page I criticise the media and the left for playing politics but I do not deny that terrorists and killers can be right-wing, or left- wing, or just mentally ill.

Mentally ill covers them all.

Leftist nut job killers and right wing killing lunatics. But let's not forget the largest group that can't be forgotten when it comes to radical, extreme agenda driven kilking.... religious kooks.

Being a radical extremist in ANYTHING, IMHO, is a sickness. It causes blindness towards everything else.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-02-15   11:04:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Gatlin (#40)

--- ‘Constitutionalism is fundamental to being an American. To hate the Constitution and those who support it means you are a traitor to this country,’ added (congressman) Shea.”

--- to: Deckard (#3) - The Greater Danger: Military-Trained Right-Wing Extremists. --- gatlin

Is this cite your true response? Your personal opinion?

tpaine  posted on  2015-02-15   11:12:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: CZ82 (#36)

Articles (such as the topic of this thread) do not address the issues other than spawning enmity.

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-02-15   13:42:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Deckard (#0)

I have a better Idea. Let's call them hypodurable ice cream trucks. Who could argue with that?

rlk  posted on  2015-02-15   15:12:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Pridie.Nones (#43)

There seems to be a lot of ill will going around nowadays, and I'm not sure if it's because people are uninformed or too well informed?

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-15   15:52:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: CZ82 (#45) (Edited)

There seems to be a lot of ill will going around nowadays, and I'm not sure if it's because people are uninformed or too well informed?

They are to well informed by the wrong people speaking with a voice of authority. That is worse than being uninformed.

rlk  posted on  2015-02-15   15:57:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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