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Title: U.S. Marines handed over their guns before leaving Yemen
Source: http://news.yahoo.com/us-marines-handed-over-guns-leaving-ye
URL Source: [None]
Published: Feb 11, 2015
Author: Phil Stewart
Post Date: 2015-02-11 22:19:07 by out damned spot
Keywords: Marines, Yemen, weapons
Views: 6117
Comments: 24

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Marines handed over their remaining weapons to Yemenis at the airport in the capital, Sanaa, on Wednesday before boarding commercial aircraft to leave the country following the closure of the U.S. embassy, the Pentagon said.

The Pentagon said the Marines destroyed heavy weapons in their embassy arsenal, including machine guns, before leaving for the airport but remained armed with smaller weapons until the end to ensure a safe exit from the country.

"The movement from the embassy to the aircraft required armed Marines," Army Colonel Steve Warren, a Pentagon spokesman, said at a briefing.

The U.S. embassy closure and the evacuation of embassy personnel came after the Houthi militia group - which overran Sanaa in September - formally took power last week. The Shi'ite Muslim group is stridently anti-American and is backed by Iran.

A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, estimated that about 100 Marines made up the embassy contingent that left the country.

Asked whether the Marines turned over their weapons to Houthi fighters, Warren said: "It's unclear, frankly. We believe they turned them over to government officials at the airport, prior to boarding the aircraft."

"As everyone knows, weapons are generally not authorized on commercial aircraft," Warren said. He said the Marines were probably carrying handguns and assault rifles until their departure.

Yemen, which borders oil giant Saudi Arabia, had long been at the forefront of the U.S.-led war against al Qaeda. But the long-standing diplomatic alliance between Washington and Sanaa appears to have been suspended with the United States.

France and Britain also closed their embassies on Wednesday due to security fears.

Despite the closure of the U.S. embassy, some American military personnel remain in the country conducting training operations with Yemeni military forces and "retain the capability to conduct counterterrorism operations if required," Warren said.

Still, U.S. officials have privately acknowledged that the political upheaval has undermined their counterterrorism effort, including the collection of intelligence.

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#1. To: out damned spot (#0)

" U.S. Marines handed over their guns before leaving Yemen "

Un freaking believable !

What would Chesty Puller do ?

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-02-12   0:07:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: out damned spot (#0)

" France and Britain also closed their embassies on Wednesday due to security fears. "

Did they surrender their weapons also?

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-02-12   0:31:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Stoner (#1)

Yeah, believe it; Marines are ORDERED to surrender.

And believe THIS: The Muzzie-coddling 0dinga Cabal has nothing but contempt for the US Marines, Army, Navy, AF, and the tradition of the entire American military. They represent their mortal enemy. Thus this treachrous admin and rogue gallery of subversives and traitors will continue to belittle, ridicule, demoralize, defecate on, AND directly and indirectly murder US servicemen and vets, and even BP.

Events like Seal Team 6's demise, and Chris Kyle and Breitbart's assinations, and absurd RoE policies weren't accidents -- and neither are the ridiculously high, unnecessary casualties.

What would Chesty Puller do ?

Something dramatic?? :-)

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-12   0:41:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: out damned spot (#0)

Despite the closure of the U.S. embassy, some American military personnel remain in the country conducting training operations with Yemeni military forces and "retain the capability to conduct counterterrorism operations if required," Warren said.

I'm adding 1+1 but still getting 5. And again, the American media is USELESS.

Despite the ZERO admin committing several treason and acts of treachery in their 6 years, it seems those within high place (CFR, CONGRESS, Elites R US) are pefectly willing to let Zero crater the country AND the world in the two years he's got remaining. Gee, what could go wrong in two years with a sociopath as Emperor??

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-12   0:48:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Liberator (#3)

" What would Chesty Puller do ?

Something dramatic?? :-) "

If today we had Chesty, and George S. Patton, we might be in a different shape.

Everything you said is true. And it is truly sickening!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-02-12   1:25:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Liberator (#4)

" (CFR, CONGRESS, Elites R US) are pefectly willing to let Zero crater the country AND the world in the two years he's got remaining. Gee, what could go wrong in two years with a sociopath as Emperor?? "

That is the job he was given to do, and he is doing a superb job of it.

He probably thinks that at the end of his two years, he will be on a private island, laying on the beach with Reggie. I suspect that when they are done with him, they will dispose of him, just like used TP. He is a useful idiot.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-02-12   1:32:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Stoner (#1)

The weaponry and vehicles are already in the hands of the enemy, per Fox News.

‘the Medieval Christian threat is under control’

out damned spot  posted on  2015-02-12   5:49:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: out damned spot (#7)

" The weaponry and vehicles are already in the hands of the enemy, per Fox News. "

This is so embarrassing.

The joke has always been that the French were the ones that were so quick to surrender.

Now IT IS THE AMERICANS THAT ARE THE SURRENDER MONKEYS !!!

I'll bet the orders to do so came directly from the White Hut !!

Add this episode to Benghazi as another achievement of the clown in the White Hut.

A sad day for the U.S.Marines !!!

SPIT !!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-02-12   9:59:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: BobCeleste (#1)

Ping to you Bob, in case you did not see it. Sad !!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-02-12   10:04:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: out damned spot, liberator, BobCeleste, *Military or Vets Affairs* (#0)

There's an update. "Surrender" their weapons was the first title. We now have the below linked.

Marines Destroyed All Weapons in Yemen Evacuation

"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-12   11:42:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: redleghunter (#10)

That's more like it.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-12   11:48:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: BobCeleste, GarySpFc, *Military or Vets Affairs* (#11)

Some important insight from an old friend of a friend below. The gentlemen served as a Marine in two embassy assignments. He gives good insights:

Start dialogue:

The weapons are part of the Detachment or service station if you will. When I went to Sofia for my first assignment I did not bring a weapon. I was issued one from the post’s inventory. Then, when I went to Munich I did not take my weapon from Sofia; I was issued a new one in Munich. So, they are not the individual assigned weapons of the Marines. They are the weapons for that post and are not to leave that post. They are simply assigned to personnel who report there. When a Marine leaving Yemen reports to his new assignment he will be issued a weapon from the new unit’s armory. He would not be expected to show up with his weapon(s) from Yemen slung over his shoulders and/or in his holster. So, if all the Marines are leaving Yemen and none are reporting, well…

If you want to make the point that they are perfectly good weapons and it is a shame to destroy them, I agree. But from a purely logistical and practical standpoint, destroying all weapons, communications gear (most important…in fact I wouldn’t be surprised if it was dismantled and carried out so that not one single wire, circuit, nut or bolt remained), etc. before leaving the post actually makes sense.

Based on the paragraphs above you might think that I’m OK with the disposition of these weapons, but actually I’m not, because there are other considerations beyond process and pragmatism. I am sure that there was classified information and equipment like the aforementioned comm gear that was carried out; items that would be in sealed diplomatic pouches and containers not subject to inspection by any aviation authorities under existing diplomatic norms and standards and this would be easy to control on a flight that was no doubt chartered exclusively for the embassy personnel. The weapons could have been placed in these containers and should have been, because giving up a weapon does truly feel like surrender to a warrior. I’m not sure if this was ordered or if it occurred because political correctness and ass covering have so infected the military that they have simply become the default. Yes, the embassy personnel may have had to lie regarding weapons being part of the cargo, but we’re talking about a bunch of diplomats and spies. They lie all the time. J So, from a logistical and process standpoint I understand why they did this, but there should be other considerations. Honor being first among them.

"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-12   14:40:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: out damned spot (#0)

"As everyone knows, weapons are generally not authorized on commercial aircraft," Warren said. He said the Marines were probably carrying handguns and assault rifles until their departure.

HorseHillary! The US Military can carry any damn thing they want on charter aircraft.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-12   16:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Stoner (#5)

If today we had Chesty, and George S. Patton, we might be in a different shape.

They would be attacking America's greatest enemy,and since our greatest enemy is located in Washington,DC,it would be a local trip.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-12   16:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: BobCeleste, redleghunter (#11)

That's more like it.

Since they were obviously ordered to do so before leaving the country,it amounts to the same thing. They surrendered their ability to fight back.

They had a clear option,and that was to board the charter aircraft and fly back to the US with their personal weapons.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-12   16:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete (#14)

" They would be attacking America's greatest enemy,and since our greatest enemy is located in Washington,DC,

it would be a local trip. "

Very true Pete. Since it would be a local trip, that would simplify the logistics, would it not?. And it would shorten the time to resolve our problem. Oh, if only Puller & Patton were here, or other men of such character, morals, and fortitude.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-02-12   17:41:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: redleghunter, out damned spot, BobCeleste (#10)

There's an update. "Surrender" their weapons was the first title. We now have the below linked.

Marines Destroyed All Weapons in Yemen Evacuation

Aaah, so we see the source of the lying headline and psyop propaganda designed to embarrass the US Marines and America:

Yahoo News

Thanks for ferreting out the truth.

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-12   17:51:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Stoner (#5)

If today we had Chesty, and George S. Patton, we might be in a different shape.

That is IF they were allowed to be the leaders they were...

These days the likes of Patton and Puller wouldn't be allowed to see the light of the battlefield -- much less mercilessly crush their enemies.

Can you imagine the controversy and Mud Hut outrage were Patton allowed to utter the speech he made, made famous by the movie 'Patton'?? He'd have been fired 2 seconds afterward, replaced by some limp-wristed tranny 10-Star General.

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-12   17:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: sneakypete, BobCeleste, redleghunter, Stoner (#15)

Since they were obviously ordered to do so before leaving the country,it amounts to the same thing. They surrendered their ability to fight back.

IMO, it's not exactly the same as surrendering your arms to another armed force. The degree of humiliation in this case is far less.

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-12   18:00:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#14)

HA! Ain't that the truth.

DC has become THE Viper's Nest.

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-12   18:02:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Stoner (#16)

Oh, if only Puller & Patton were here, or other men of such character, morals, and fortitude [were in DC TCOB.]

Yup.

But no one wants to risk their pensions, their Costa Rican haciendas, their overseas bank accounts, or their...future UN Officer Ranking.

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-12   18:04:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Liberator (#19)

IMO, it's not exactly the same as surrendering your arms to another armed force. The degree of humiliation in this case is far less.

True,but they still caused those innocent Marines to suffer from the embarrassment and humiliation of surrendering their ability to fight back and perform their historic mission,and that is just unacceptable in my book.

I don't give a rabid rats ass how much humiliation and embarrassment is thrown at any given politician because they deserve it and most have ego's so huge they wouldn't even notice it,but Marines have honor and take any attack on their honor personally.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-12   19:34:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: sneakypete (#22)

But they still caused those innocent Marines to suffer from the embarrassment and humiliation of surrendering their ability to fight back and perform their historic mission,and that is just unacceptable in my book.

I agree. Not acceptible in anyone's book -- especially Marines. This embarrassing and humiliating has been ordered BY DESIGN. By those who hate America, and may even be Mud Hut Muzzie operatives.

I guess not surrending their arms was a "concession." Sorta like allowing the Marinas to walk out wear their skivvies instead of nothing at all.

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-13   13:05:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Liberator (#18)

replaced by some limp-wristed tranny 10-Star General.

Homo-San?

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-13   17:42:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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