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Title: Cops Put Bag On Woman’s Head, Strap Her To Chair And Choke Her To Draw Blood For DUI Test
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Prison Planet
URL Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/lawsuit ... o-draw-blood-for-dui-test.html
Published: Feb 09, 2015
Author: Prisonplanet.com
Post Date: 2015-02-10 00:46:24 by GeorgiaConservative
Keywords: police, cops
Views: 27976
Comments: 69
A woman is suing a host of parties after it emerged that cops in Austin, Texas, forcably took her blood for a DUI test, in a scene that sounds more like something that would occur at a Guantanamo Bay prison camp. Caroline Callaway was arrested by a police officer after she refused to take a breath test during a routine traffic stop. Ms Callaway was taken directly to the Travis County jail where the shocking events unfolded. Callaway’s attorney told reporters with Courthouse News that despite only “passive and verbal resistance” she was taken “to a small padded room, where she was surrounded by officers and strapped into ‘the chair,’ with her legs, wrists and shoulders restrained.” Callaway, who had informed the police that she suffers from anxiety disorder and uses medications for the ailment, then “began to involuntarily tremble from anxiety and fear.” This prompted the cops to put a bag, known as a “Tranzport Hood,” over her head to deprive the senses, in some backwards notion that this would have a calming effect. All the hood did was cause Callaway to panic further as she could not see what was happening and had further difficulty breathing. A contracted nurse was on hand to perform the blood draw, but according to the complaint, “the needle popped out because of Ms. Callaway’s shaking and blood spewed onto one of the officers.” “(D)efendants continued the abuse determined to take Ms. Callaway’s blood. In order to stop Ms. Callaway from trembling, one of the officers used choke hold pressure points on her neck, until her body went limp.” the complaint further notes. 
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#7. To: GeorgiaConservative (#0)
How do we know she wasn't spitting on the officers in her drunken rage... as the reason for the hood?
If the lady is easily proven to be drunk and unable to safely drive a vehicle by such old fashioned tools as observation, there is no reason to force her to "donate" blood to prove it. DUI laws and processes to prove guilt exist to make police able to get more taxes, not make the roads safer. If society wants fewer drunks on the roads harming others, put more police on the job and train them to watch for signs of drunks driving with their eyes and nose. As far as I am concerned, taking of blood or forced breathalyzers are violations of the 5th amendment. It doesn't matter if a person has an accident because they were fat or drunk, they had an accident. Now if they can be proven to have caused the accident, the reason they did so is not relevant and should not be related to punishment. If say they were sitting at a light and someone rear ends them, are they at fault because the cops give her a test that she fails?
There are a few things, medically, that can look like intoxication. A blood BAC or a breath test is imperative. Besides, most states write into their law that an operator can't refuse, upon PC for a DWI arrest. Driving is not a right... it's a privledge.
Indeed they are. The 5th exists, but GrandIsland, gatlin, and misterwhite claim that States have the power to ignore it. No, it is imperative that the States honor the 5th. Constitutional rights trump police investigations. Another constitutionally debatable 'law' and concept. Our right to travel is beyond dispute. (Or should be) -- Thus, our mode of travel (our right to drive) should only be subject to reasonable regulations, which do NOT include blood tests. Can you agree?
You see, this was a condition of the continuing debate. That you aren't the final say in grey areas. You know as well as I do the the USC has ruled forced blood draws NOT a constitutional violation. I can't debate you if you intentionally spin facts.
The 5th exists, but GrandIsland, gatlin, and misterwhite claim that States have the power to ignore it. No, it is imperative that the States honor the 5th. Constitutional rights trump police investigations. I'm not 'the final say', the Constitution is.. Try to refute the words of the constitution, not mine. And if you look at their 'rulings', the opinions are NOT unanimous. There is dissent, and they can be overturned. I'm giving you constitutional facts, not spin. -- But if you claim there's spin, specify it, if you can. - I claim you can't. Another constitutionally debatable 'law' and concept. Our right to travel is beyond dispute. (Or should be) -- Thus, our mode of travel (our right to drive) should only be subject to reasonable regulations, which do NOT include blood tests. Can you agree?
Actually it is a right. The right travel. If you can't drive you can't survive or can barely survive. You should be to lose that right if you do something like drive drunk. But the default position should be/acutally is that driving is a right. There were several court cases confirming this before the entire system became corrupt. So corrupt it is facing collapse.
I'm familiar with this concept. I don't necessarily disagree, but the SCOTUS does. We can't make our own rules based on individual opinions. It's a slippery slope
Driving is not a right... it's a privledge. -- GrandIsland Another constitutionally debatable 'law' and concept. Our right to travel is beyond dispute. (Or should be) -- Thus, our mode of travel (our right to drive) should only be subject to reasonable regulations, which do NOT include blood tests. Can you agree? We agree. - It puzzles me why anyone would disagree... Nope, they've never really opined on that percise point, if memory serves. -- SOTUS uses the reasonable regulation dodge to avoid such a 'ruling'. We made our own rules in the Constitution, based on individual rights. You slippery States Rights advocates opine that majority rule is the way to go. It's not.
Even the legislature has no power to deny to a Citizen the "RIGHT" to travel upon the roadways and transport his property in the ordinary course of his business or pleasure, through this "RIGHT" might be regulated in accordance with the public interest and convenience. See: Chicago Motor Coach v. Chicago, 169 N.E. 22
Come on Stone, so I'm correct in assuming you don't have a drivers license? Be honest.
Be honest I drove without a license for over 10 years. I have one now. I didn't get a dui or anything. The insurance just lapsed around Christmas one year. Then they suspended it. I beat them in court on several occasions. Cop didn't show up. They change the charge to no operators license. My funnest was when I went to Fariborn Municipal Court. I found a brief on the internet based on Pennsylvania law. I looked up the appropriate parts and made it conform to Ohio. It was like 35 pages. The Judge ruled against me. I was preparing to choose the jury. Looking over the pamphlet. I was representing myself. They called me to court to discuss the case before jury selection. I remember it very well. The judge told me that I wasn't to bring up the constitution and that she already ruled against my motions. She just ruled against them without explaining why. Anyhow. She asked if I understood that I was not to bring up the constitution in the case. I remember plain as day what I said back. I said "I understand that the constitution is the supreme law of the land. She was mad you could see it in the bitches face. Then I asked her if I could ask a question. I asked her "if the constitution of the United States of America was in effect in her courtrooom. She said "that is offensive I refuse to answer that question". I shot back "Let the record show that the judge has refused to acknowledge that the constitution of the United States oF America is in effect in this courtroom. She was even more pissed. She threw the gavel down and adjourned. They took me back to the room to keep making the jury selection. Not 5 minutes later the prosecutor came in and said they made a mistake in the way that they filed my charges and that they were dropping the driving without a license charge. But they would keep the reckless operation of a motor vehicle charge. Which you don't get a jury trial for. The bitch didn't listen to or consider anything and she found me guilty. What was the reckless operation. My tire went flat and it was on the side of the road. It was a firstone tire by the way before all that stuff about firestone tires broke. Not that that was necessarily the reason. Also something I didn't mention above. When we went to the consultation or whatever you call it when I was before the Judge. They asked if I objected to a Federal Ovserver witting with the prosecutor. I didn't object I wasn't prepared for a question like that. But why would a federal repersentative be there for a case as insignificant as mine. I wondered that afterward. I was prepared. Had poster boards and everything. I was going to smoke them and take up all day, or as much time as possible. Another case. Oakwood Ohio. The Judge kept stopping me from taling with sidebars. I was tryint go tell the jury that they had the right to decide the facts and the LAW. The judge didn't like that. I asked him in the sidebar if he Knew that my position was the same as John Jay's the first supreme court justice. He wasn't going to let me say anything. So I changed stategies. I held up a copy of the constitution. I told the jury this is a copy of the constitution. I guess it is of no effect in this court. Then I ripped it up and rested my case. During jury deliberations I sat in the Judges chamber and talked to him. He was actually kind of friendly. The prosecutor didn't like that at all. One thing I asked him was why is that gold fringe around the American flag? He said "someone has told you something". I don't remember the other details of our conversation. Anyhow the jury came back with a question. I don't remember what it was. Then later the jury found me guilty. Ok one more. I got a public defender. Worst result out ever. I got 30 days house arrest. The public defender was a joke. Another case. Kettering Ohio. The law says there is an exception if there is an emergency. It was a slow winter. My heat went out. I had to get a thermostat to make the heater work. My defense was going to be it was an emergency because my heat was out and I needed money to buy a new thermostat. This was about a week before Christmas. The public defender came up to me and wanted to make sure I wanted to represent myself. I told him how I planned to defend myself. Side note I also had 3 of my cute little kids with me for jury sympathy. The defender said he didn't know if that would work. He asked me if he could get it reduced to no operator license if I would take that deal. I said yes. No operator license just means you didn't have it on you. I took the deal. The Judge asked if I had insurance. I did. They usually have to check. He didn't check and said just mark it that he has it. Merry Christmas. Filing motions to delay the trial and get it near Christmas was also part of my strategy. Ok another. I took an alternative way home from my fishing trip to Lake Cumberland in Kentucky. Instead of going interstate 75 I decided to go the country way. I got caught speeding going 66 in a 55. It was just 65 a min ago and i got a ticket. What was interesting was that I had my SKS along with a 2 liter bottle filled with hollow point bullets in my van. I also had a machete that we were going to use to hack through the woods. The cop told me he could get me for concealed deadly weapon on the machete. But he didn't because he believed me I guess. I plead not guilty. Got my van back with my wife's help. Then drove away never to return. Statute of limitations of probably passed now. I guess you would think I'm a bad boy.
Not at all. You live by the choices you make... and suffer the consequences of those choices. I can respect that.
I still believe driving is a right. It was just easier and less expensive to get a license. I guess I am less stubborn then I used to be. It feels good not to be nervouse when a cop gets behind you too. :)
When a cop is behind you, it's rational to feel nervous, as I can guarantee you. They can find some sort of violation, if they feel like it.
Well not as nervous is probably more accurate. Someone I know knew a cop who said he got nervous when cops were behind him too.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestCallaway, who had informed the police that she suffers from anxiety disorder and uses medications for the ailment, then “began to involuntarily tremble from anxiety and fear.” This prompted the cops to put a bag, known as a “Tranzport Hood,” over her head to deprive the senses, in some backwards notion that this would have a calming effect.
#17. To: GrandIsland (#7)
#20. To: jeremiad (#17)
If the lady is easily proven to be drunk and unable to safely drive a vehicle by such old fashioned tools as observation, there is no reason to force her to "donate" blood to prove it.
#22. To: GrandIsland, jeremiad, Y'ALL (#20)
Jeremiad --- If the lady is easily proven to be drunk and unable to safely drive a vehicle by such old fashioned tools as observation, there is no reason to force her to "donate" blood to prove it. ---- As far as I am concerned, taking of blood or forced breathalyzers are violations of the 5th amendment.
GrandIsland --- There are a few things, medically, that can look like intoxication. A blood BAC or a breath test is imperative.
Besides, most states write into their law that an operator can't refuse, upon PC for a DWI arrest. Driving is not a right... it's a privledge.
#25. To: tpaine (#22)
(Edited)
No, it is imperative that the States honor the 5th. Constitutional rights
#30. To: GrandIsland (#25)
GrandIsland --- There are a few things, medically, that can look like intoxication. A blood BAC or a breath test is imperative.
You see, this was a condition of the continuing debate. That you aren't the final say in grey areas.
You know as well as I do the the USC has ruled forced blood draws NOT a constitutional violation.
I can't debate you if you intentionally spin facts.
Besides, most states write into their law that an operator can't refuse, upon PC for a DWI arrest. Driving is not a right... it's a privledge.
#31. To: tpaine, GrandIsland (#30)
Driving is not a right... it's a privledge.
#35. To: A K A Stone (#31)
Actually it is a right. The right travel. If you can't drive you can't survive or can barely survive.
#36. To: GrandIsland (#35)
(Edited)
A K A Stone ---- Actually it is a right. The right travel. If you can't drive you can't survive or can barely survive.
GI --- I'm familiar with this concept. I don't necessarily disagree, but the SCOTUS does.
We can't make our own rules based on individual opinions. It's a slippery slope.
#37. To: tpaine, GrandIsland (#36)
#38. To: A K A Stone (#37)
#46. To: GrandIsland (#38)
Come on Stone, so I'm correct in assuming you don't have a drivers license?
#51. To: A K A Stone (#46)
I guess you would think I'm a bad boy.
#53. To: GrandIsland (#51)
#56. To: A K A Stone, Y'ALL (#53)
It feels good not to be nervous when a cop gets behind you too. :)
#57. To: tpaine (#56)
When a cop is behind you, it's rational to feel nervous,
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