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Title: Army rules Fort Hood shooting victims eligible for Purple Heart
Source: Dallas Morning News
URL Source: http://www.dallasnews.com/news/loca ... -eligible-for-purple-heart.ece
Published: Feb 9, 2015
Author: Aubree Abril
Post Date: 2015-02-09 14:51:44 by redleghunter
Keywords: None
Views: 38634
Comments: 101

WASHINGTON — The Army announced Friday that it will award the Purple Heart to victims of the 2009 Fort Hood shooting, after years of resistance.

Texas lawmakers welcomed news that the shooting spree, which left 13 people dead and more than 30 wounded, would no longer be classified as an act of “workplace violence,” given the shooter proclaimed himself a jihadi.

“This has been a long, hard fight. The victims of this attack have struggled, suffered and been abandoned by this administration. No more,” said Rep. John Carter, the Round Rock Republican whose district includes Fort Hood, the nation’s largest military installation.

“Today is a day of victory, and I am honored to have fought on their behalf.”

The decision, Carter said, would “provide the victims their due benefits” and “finally give closure to the families.”

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#3. To: redleghunter (#0)

Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, was found guilty this month on 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder after opening fire Nov. 5, 2009, at Fort Hood’s Soldier Readiness Processing Center, where troops were getting medical checkups before deploying to Afghanistan.

Hasan, who was scheduled to deploy to Afghanistan a few weeks later, shouted “Allahu ­akbar!” meaning “God is great,” before targeting soldiers with a high-powered, high-capacity handgun he had fitted with laser sights. He was apprehended by military police officers after firing more than 200 shots.

www.washingtonpost.com/wo...6-e4fc677d94a1_story.html

Some firearms would be more useful, but a Purple Heart is better than nothing.

Maybe next time the bullets will bounce off of their Purple Hearts?

Hondo68  posted on  2015-02-09   15:16:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: hondo68 (#3)

Some firearms would be more useful, but a Purple Heart is better than nothing.

They'll get more benefits this way which had been denied to them and their families because it was declared "workplace violence".

So it makes a big difference to the survivors and families, I think.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-09   17:25:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative (#5)

So it makes a big difference to the survivors and families, I think.

I'm sure it does,but military members that are murdered by a traitor in their own unit shouldn't be getting a Purple Heart.

Next thing you know they will be handing them out to clerks and cooks that get hurt in a car accident while driving to work at the base/

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-09   18:20:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: sneakypete (#8) (Edited)

Did U.S. military personnel really earn all their medals? .

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-10   0:09:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Gatlin (#18)

How did I achieve least-decorated status in spite of being a West Point graduate, airborne, Ranger who volunteered for Vietnam? Easy. I did not suck up to my superiors.

Wow not a biased source at all.

Only 2LTs whine on "deserving" awards and worry about who gets what.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-10   0:17:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: redleghunter, sneakypete (#20) (Edited)

"Can some ribbon racks be over the top, or is more always better?"

https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/can-some- ribbon- racks-be-over-the-top-or-is-more-always-better.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-10   0:27:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Gatlin, redleghunter (#21)

Lets see Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star, Meritorious Service Medal, Commendation Medal, NO Purple Hearts and a whole lot of I was flying AROUND ribbons and personal achievement ribbons.

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-10   7:20:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: CZ82 (#27)

The display of awards and decorations has come a long way for this:

Through this:

To this:

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-10   10:06:59 ET  (3 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Gatlin, redleghunter, sneakypete (#28)

That was when Medals were given out for Valor not for just being IN or flying OVER the theatre, who knows how many miles behind the lines.

Even when I was in and I retired 16 years ago if aircrew flew into a hazardous theatre (even if it was mega miles behind the lines) you got a Commendation Medal. (You made 10 trips you got 10 Commendation Medals). But.... if you were a passenger on one of those same flights you got......... (Wait for it, wait for it)...... NOTHING!!!!!!!!!! Woohooooo

Hell I got shot at on 3 different TDYs by Muzzies and got nothing for it but the aircrew who dumped my ass off got medals for it, go figure. $5 says pete can relate to that. {chuckle}

I looked at the new AF ribbons chart and there is so many new medals it isn't funny, and most of them are what you get for just showing up to work. One of them now is just for VOLUNTEERING!!!!!!!!! REALLY???????? (AND that CMSgt even has one of those). LOL. (I wonder if I could have gotten one of those for "being volunteered" to clean the schitter if I had stayed in longer)? :)

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-10   19:00:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: CZ82 (#52)

We probably have something in common with awards. I worked on a joint mission with the Corps TACP while in Iraq. I was surprised when called to the BIAP "Air Force House." The Corps ALO/EASOG commander pinned an AFAM on me.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-11   0:57:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: redleghunter (#56)

The Corps ALO/EASOG commander pinned an AFAM on me.

For doing what if you don't mind me asking?

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-12   6:37:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: CZ82, GarySpFc (#71)

For doing what if you don't mind me asking?

It was an impact award.

I was the MNC-I lead on coordinating Joint assets lethal/non-lethal for a 'pinned down' SF advisory team and the downed Apache aircraft which went to support them. The rest is need to know:) But there was some press of the event:

BACKGROUND: Millenarians in Najaf hoped to kill Sistani et al. to prepare return of the Mahdi

It was late January 2007.

The Corps ALO (EASOG commander) appreciated my efforts for recommending retasking of CFACC assets to support what we called "The Mother of all TICs" (troops in contact). His JOC ALO team was a little green around the gills to stomp on who needed to be stomped on:). I also drafted a position paper later that Spring arguing the need for USN CSG air support for the surge. The requirement needed to come from the Army and needed GEN Petreaus' signature. After the memo was signed I traveled with the ALO and my COL boss to the CAOC to deliver the memo to the CFACC commander.

At least the above was alluded to in the citation write up.

As you know the AFAM is a service/achievement award. No heroism/valor involved. Just doing my job and he recognized me for it. After almost 12 years of my service joined at the hip with ALOs and JTACs, it was nice to have something to remember my brothers in Blue.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-12   10:31:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: redleghunter, CZ82, sneakypete (#72)

I have a vague recollection of something that happened during the Grenada incursion/excursion when Reagan was president.

Some of the US troops developed heat injuries during the action.

They were eventually awarded purple hearts, if my memory is correct.

Look it up.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-02-17   13:31:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Fred Mertz, redleghunter, CZ82, sneakypete (#74)

I have a vague recollection of something that happened during the Grenada incursion/excursion when Reagan was president.

Some of the US troops developed heat injuries during the action.

They were eventually awarded purple hearts, if my memory is correct.

Look it up.

If any run for office as Dems, their Republican opponent will claim that those injuries were not deserving of purple hearts.

Pericles  posted on  2015-02-17   13:35:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Pericles (#75)

If any run for office as Dems, their Republican opponent will claim that those injuries were not deserving of purple hearts.

Not to worry. Most who get into politics on either side of the aisle don't serve in the military.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-17   14:54:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: redleghunter, sneakypete (#76)

Not to worry. Most who get into politics on either side of the aisle don't serve in the military.

Or if they did they were REMFs pretending to be more than what they actually were.

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-17   19:32:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: CZ82 (#85)

Or if they did they were REMFs

Like Gore?

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-17   21:10:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#97. To: redleghunter (#89)

Didn't he have a bodyguard for himself and his typewriter?

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-18 06:55:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: nolu chan, redleghunter (#89) (Edited)

Or if they did they were REMFs

Like Gore?

So what would you Navy guys call someone like Gore?

An "Admirals Mate" or "Someone with too much draft".

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