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Title: Army rules Fort Hood shooting victims eligible for Purple Heart
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Dallas Morning News
URL Source: http://www.dallasnews.com/news/loca ... -eligible-for-purple-heart.ece
Published: Feb 9, 2015
Author: Aubree Abril
Post Date: 2015-02-09 14:51:44 by redleghunter
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Views: 40072
Comments: 101
WASHINGTON — The Army announced Friday that it will award the Purple Heart to victims of the 2009 Fort Hood shooting, after years of resistance. Texas lawmakers welcomed news that the shooting spree, which left 13 people dead and more than 30 wounded, would no longer be classified as an act of “workplace violence,” given the shooter proclaimed himself a jihadi. “This has been a long, hard fight. The victims of this attack have struggled, suffered and been abandoned by this administration. No more,” said Rep. John Carter, the Round Rock Republican whose district includes Fort Hood, the nation’s largest military installation. “Today is a day of victory, and I am honored to have fought on their behalf.” The decision, Carter said, would “provide the victims their due benefits” and “finally give closure to the families.” Poster Comment: About time.
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#3. To: redleghunter (#0)
Hasan, who was scheduled to deploy to Afghanistan a few weeks later, shouted “Allahu akbar!” meaning “God is great,” before targeting soldiers with a high-powered, high-capacity handgun he had fitted with laser sights. He was apprehended by military police officers after firing more than 200 shots. www.washingtonpost.com/wo...6-e4fc677d94a1_story.html Some firearms would be more useful, but a Purple Heart is better than nothing. Maybe next time the bullets will bounce off of their Purple Hearts?
They'll get more benefits this way which had been denied to them and their families because it was declared "workplace violence". So it makes a big difference to the survivors and families, I think.
I'm sure it does,but military members that are murdered by a traitor in their own unit shouldn't be getting a Purple Heart. Next thing you know they will be handing them out to clerks and cooks that get hurt in a car accident while driving to work at the base/
Wow not a biased source at all. Only 2LTs whine on "deserving" awards and worry about who gets what.
"Can some ribbon racks be over the top, or is more always better?" https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/can-some- ribbon- racks-be-over-the-top-or-is-more-always-better.
Lets see Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star, Meritorious Service Medal, Commendation Medal, NO Purple Hearts and a whole lot of I was flying AROUND ribbons and personal achievement ribbons.
The display of awards and decorations has come a long way for this:
That was when Medals were given out for Valor not for just being IN or flying OVER the theatre, who knows how many miles behind the lines. Even when I was in and I retired 16 years ago if aircrew flew into a hazardous theatre (even if it was mega miles behind the lines) you got a Commendation Medal. (You made 10 trips you got 10 Commendation Medals). But.... if you were a passenger on one of those same flights you got......... (Wait for it, wait for it)...... NOTHING!!!!!!!!!! Woohooooo Hell I got shot at on 3 different TDYs by Muzzies and got nothing for it but the aircrew who dumped my ass off got medals for it, go figure. $5 says pete can relate to that. {chuckle} I looked at the new AF ribbons chart and there is so many new medals it isn't funny, and most of them are what you get for just showing up to work. One of them now is just for VOLUNTEERING!!!!!!!!! REALLY???????? (AND that CMSgt even has one of those). LOL. (I wonder if I could have gotten one of those for "being volunteered" to clean the schitter if I had stayed in longer)? :)
I know. I attended some sort of function at Bragg back in the 90's,and saw SF guys wearing whole rows of ribbons I couldn't recognize. Seemed like in the 80's and 90's the US military was giving out ribbons for everything. IIRC,I was told that some of the ribbons were for stuff like the annual field training exercises in Europe. I think they were called "Reforger" or some such crap. I was surprised you would get a actual medal and ribbon for being in a field exercise. I remember back in the 60's when there would be formal formations you would see guys show up wearing nothing but their CIB/CMB's and jump wings,and some of those guys had some pretty serious stuff they could have put on if they had wanted. One senior NCO was even wearing a Iron Cross at a IG formation in 64. Lots of the guys from the WW-2 and Korean War eras had multiple Silver Stars and Purple Hearts,but people mostly didn't trot that stuff out for display except for awards ceremonies and/or IG formations. My company commander on Okie had a MoH from the Korean War,and I didn't even know about it until a couple of years later. All he ever wore on his khaki dress uniforms was his multiple award CIB and his jump wings. This was Ola Mize,one of the finest men to have ever walked the earth. A quiet and soft-spoken man who was a true gentleman. Sadly,he died a year or two ago. BTW,I got the impression that these days it is pretty much mandatory to wear all your ribbons any time you are wearing your dress uniform. That used to be optional unless you were reporting in to a new command or going through a IG inspection.
When I was in (79-99) and wearing fatigues you wore Name, Branch, Rank, Unit Patch, Command Patch and any badges you may have earned. Whenever you had to dress in blues you wore Name, Rank, US insignia, your "ribbon rack" and any badges you may have earned, from the looks of the CMSgt picture that hasn't changed.
#64. To: CZ82 (#63)
You must mean combat patch. What if you earned more than one, like so many troops have in the past decade?
When I was in the army in the 60's "ribbon racks" were only required for formal ceremonies and reporting in to a new unit. As you know,your ribbons tell everyone your career history at a glance. It was optional for traveling or casual wear like company formations. It was customary for people in fatigues to have all their badges like jump wings,CIB,etc,etc,etc sewn on,but not mandatory. I know this for a fact because I refused to pay to have jump wings and a CIB sewn on my fatigues and jackets after coming back from VN because I only had a little better than 6 months to go in the army,and I wasn't willing to spend the money. Nobody at Bragg was impressed with that stuff anyhow. You stood out if you didn't have any of it.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestHasan, an Army psychiatrist, was found guilty this month on 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder after opening fire Nov. 5, 2009, at Fort Hood’s Soldier Readiness Processing Center, where troops were getting medical checkups before deploying to Afghanistan.
#5. To: hondo68 (#3)
Some firearms would be more useful, but a Purple Heart is better than nothing.
#8. To: TooConservative (#5)
So it makes a big difference to the survivors and families, I think.
#18. To: sneakypete (#8)
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#20. To: Gatlin (#18)
How did I achieve least-decorated status in spite of being a West Point graduate, airborne, Ranger who volunteered for Vietnam? Easy. I did not suck up to my superiors.
#21. To: redleghunter, sneakypete (#20)
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#27. To: Gatlin, redleghunter (#21)
#28. To: CZ82 (#27)
Through this:
To this:
#52. To: Gatlin, redleghunter, sneakypete (#28)
#58. To: CZ82 (#52)
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I looked at the new AF ribbons chart and there is so many new medals it isn't funny, and most of them are what you get for just showing up to work.
#63. To: sneakypete (#58)
BTW,I got the impression that these days it is pretty much mandatory to wear all your ribbons any time you are wearing your dress uniform.
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#67. To: CZ82 (#63)
Whenever you had to dress in blues you wore Name, Rank, US insignia, your "ribbon rack" and any badges you may have earned, from the looks of the CMSgt picture that hasn't changed.
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