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Title: Army rules Fort Hood shooting victims eligible for Purple Heart
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Dallas Morning News
URL Source: http://www.dallasnews.com/news/loca ... -eligible-for-purple-heart.ece
Published: Feb 9, 2015
Author: Aubree Abril
Post Date: 2015-02-09 14:51:44 by redleghunter
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WASHINGTON — The Army announced Friday that it will award the Purple Heart to victims of the 2009 Fort Hood shooting, after years of resistance. Texas lawmakers welcomed news that the shooting spree, which left 13 people dead and more than 30 wounded, would no longer be classified as an act of “workplace violence,” given the shooter proclaimed himself a jihadi. “This has been a long, hard fight. The victims of this attack have struggled, suffered and been abandoned by this administration. No more,” said Rep. John Carter, the Round Rock Republican whose district includes Fort Hood, the nation’s largest military installation. “Today is a day of victory, and I am honored to have fought on their behalf.” The decision, Carter said, would “provide the victims their due benefits” and “finally give closure to the families.” Poster Comment: About time.
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#42. To: Liberator (#35)
Because he was an officer? It seems that they're not too concerned about lowly grunts getting shot up, so they disarm them in the hopes of making the higher ranks safer. The truth is that disarmament makes everyone less safe. It seems that as rank goes up, common sense decreases.
A technical quibble. A war would require two state actors. A lone individual actor cannot create a state of war with a nation. Nor can a non-state actor such as al Qaeda. al Qaeda and the USA can engage in an armed conflict of a non-international character. Gary D. Solis, U.S. Military Academy, The Law of Armed Conflict: International Humanitarian Law in War, Cambridge University Press, 2010, at 21. Also, "There are no longer the statuses of 'quasi-combatant' or 'semi-civilian.'" Id. at 188. Also, "Recall that POW status arises only in common Article 2 international armed conflicts, and in such conflicts the 1949 Geneva Conventions apply in toto, along with the 1977 Additional Protocol I." Id. at 195. The Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC) and International Humanitarian Law (IHL) are applied to conflicts with not more than one state actor. http://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/Military_Law/pdf/GC_1949-IV.pdf Commentary, IV Geneva Convention, Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, Geneva, International Committee of the Red Cross (1958), Jean S. Pictet, Ed., Doctor of Laws, Director for General Affairs of the International Committee of the Red Cross, at page 51, italics as in original: Application of the term enemy combatant is misleading at best. PROTOCOL ADDITIONAL TO THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS OF 12 AUGUST 1949, AND RELATING TO THE PROTECTION OF VICTIMS OF INTERNATIONAL ARMED CONFLICTS (PROTOCOL I), OF 8 JUNE 1977 Excerpt, page 260, italics as in original. COMBATANT AND PRISONER-OF-WAR STATUS Article 43 — Armed forces 1. The armed forces of a Party to a conflict consist of all organized armed forces, groups and units which are under a command responsible to that Party for the conduct of its subordinates, even if that Party is represented by a government or an authority not recognized by an adverse Party. Such armed forces shall be subject to an internal disciplinary system which, inter alia, shall enforce compliance with the rules of international law applicable in armed conflict. 2. Members of the armed forces of a Party to a conflict (other than medical personnel and chaplains covered by Article 33 of the Third Convention) are combatants, that is to say, they have the right to participate directly in hostilities. 3. Whenever a Party to a conflict incorporates a paramilitary or armed law enforcement agency into its armed forces it shall so notify the other Parties to the conflict. Excerpt, page 265, italics as in original. CIVILIANS AND CIVILIAN POPULATION Article 50 — Definition of civilians and civilian population 1. A civilian is any person who does not belong to one of the categories of persons referred to in Article 4 A 1), 2), 3) and 6) of the Third Convention and in Article 43 of this Protocol. In case of doubt whether a person is a civilian, that person shall be considered to be a civilian. 2. The civilian population comprises all persons who are civilians. 3. The presence within the civilian population of individuals who do not come within the definition of civilians does not deprive the population of its civilian character. Note the negative definition of civilians. Whoever is not a member of the armed forces of a party to a conflict as defined by Article 43, is a civilian, as defined by Article 50. Between the two articles, coverage is total to include all persons on the planet. Some of them, plus the rest of them, equals all of them. Note Article 43.2 says, "Members of the armed forces of a Party to a conflict (other than medical personnel and chaplains covered by Article 33 of the Third Convention) are combatants, that is to say, they have the right to participate directly in hostilities." Every combatant is an enemy combatant in the view of the other party. The question goes not to enemy but to combatant. Solis at 224-25. Basically, the terminology used by the U.S. government, in terms of international law, is legal gibberish. https://www.icrc.org/eng/resources/documents/misc/terrorism-ihl-210705.htm International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) 01-01-2011 FAQ Events in recent years have increased interest in the issue of how international humanitarian law is applied in today's context of violent confrontation. In a new paper, the ICRC provides answers to some of the most frequently asked questions about international humanitarian law and terrorism. 1. Is there legal significance to the term "global war on terror?" [...] When armed violence is used outside the context of an armed conflict in the legal sense or when a person suspected of terrorist activities is not detained in connection with any armed conflict, humanitarian law does not apply. Instead, domestic laws, as well as international criminal law and human rights govern. [...] 2. Who is a combatant? International humanitarian law permits members of the armed forces of a State party to an international armed conflict and associated militias who fulfil the requisite criteria to directly engage in hostilities. They are generally considered lawful, or privileged, combatants who may not be prosecuted for the taking part in hostilities as long as they respect international humanitarian law. Upon capture they are entitled to prisoner of war status. If civilians directly engage in hostilities, they are considered "unlawful" or "unprivileged" combatants or belligerents (the treaties of humanitarian law do not expressly contain these terms). They may be prosecuted under the domestic law of the detaining state for such action. Both lawful and unlawful combatants may be interned in wartime, may be interrogated and may be prosecuted for war crimes. Both are entitled to humane treatment in the hands of the enemy. 3. Who is an "enemy combatant?" In its generic sense, an "enemy combatant" is a person who, either lawfully or unlawfully, engages in hostilities for the opposing side in an international armed conflict. The term is currently used — by those who view the fight against terrorism as including a transnational armed conflict against certain terrorist groups — to denote persons believed to belong to, or believed to be associated with terrorist groups, regardless of the circumstances of their capture. As mentioned above, a member of the armed forces of a State engaged in an international armed conflict or of an associated militia that fulfils the requisite criteria is a combatant, and, as such, entitled to POW status upon capture by the enemy. In non-international armed conflict, combatant and prisoner of war status are not provided for, because States are not willing to grant members of armed opposition groups immunity from prosecution under domestic law for taking up arms. From an IHL perspective, the term "combatant" or "enemy combatant" has no legal meaning outside of armed conflict. To the extent that persons designated "enemy combatants" have been captured in international or non-international armed conflict, the provisions and protections of international humanitarian law remain applicable regardless of how such persons are called. Similarly, when individuals are captured outside of armed conflict their actions and protection are governed by domestic law and human rights law, regardless of how they are called. 4. Who is entitled to "prisoner of war" status? What is the consequence of failure to qualify for prisoner of war status? [...] 5. What are the ICRC's role and activities in relation to international humanitarian law? [...] 6. Does Protocol I Additional to the Geneva Conventions treat "terrorists" the same as it does soldiers? [...]
There's a job for you at the Pentagon:) There is enough in LOAC to restrict and their is enough to go the other way. That is why proportionality is key to the entire LOAC.
"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
Because he was an officer? Worse...it's because he's a Muslim.
"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
I would disagree. There is no need to bring in the need to prove terrorism when murder can provide a death penalty. If I were Hasan, I would rather face a federal civilian jury than a military court-martial panel. All members of the panel will be senior to the accused. The court-martial can return a verdict of guilty with a two-thirds majority. Unanimity is only needed only to mandate the death penalty. There are no hung juries in military practice. If the military does not get the job done, Hasan could be tried by the state. Trial for the same act once as a violation of federal law and once as a violation of state law does not violate double jeopardy. Legally, the federal and state governments are considered separate sovereigns. EDIT: Hasan was convicted of 13 counts of premeditated murder, 32 counts of attempted murder. He was sentenced to death (August, 2013). The death penalty automatically starts the appeals process. That's where the case is at.
Uhhh, no there isn't. I'm totally retired.
Which service branch?
"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
I retired from the Navy over 30 years ago. Now I'm just retired.
Thank you for your service.
"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
You too.
That was when Medals were given out for Valor not for just being IN or flying OVER the theatre, who knows how many miles behind the lines. Even when I was in and I retired 16 years ago if aircrew flew into a hazardous theatre (even if it was mega miles behind the lines) you got a Commendation Medal. (You made 10 trips you got 10 Commendation Medals). But.... if you were a passenger on one of those same flights you got......... (Wait for it, wait for it)...... NOTHING!!!!!!!!!! Woohooooo Hell I got shot at on 3 different TDYs by Muzzies and got nothing for it but the aircrew who dumped my ass off got medals for it, go figure. $5 says pete can relate to that. {chuckle} I looked at the new AF ribbons chart and there is so many new medals it isn't funny, and most of them are what you get for just showing up to work. One of them now is just for VOLUNTEERING!!!!!!!!! REALLY???????? (AND that CMSgt even has one of those). LOL. (I wonder if I could have gotten one of those for "being volunteered" to clean the schitter if I had stayed in longer)? :)
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Are you telling me that the Air Force is now like kids sports? You know where they don't keep score and everyone gets a trophy?
I wasn't a "political animal wearing kneepads" or aircrew so my "rack" was much smaller. :)
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Yup! And you probably also get a Certificate to hang on your "I LOVE ME" wall. :)
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
We probably have something in common with awards. I worked on a joint mission with the Corps TACP while in Iraq. I was surprised when called to the BIAP "Air Force House." The Corps ALO/EASOG commander pinned an AFAM on me.
"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I know. I attended some sort of function at Bragg back in the 90's,and saw SF guys wearing whole rows of ribbons I couldn't recognize. Seemed like in the 80's and 90's the US military was giving out ribbons for everything. IIRC,I was told that some of the ribbons were for stuff like the annual field training exercises in Europe. I think they were called "Reforger" or some such crap. I was surprised you would get a actual medal and ribbon for being in a field exercise. I remember back in the 60's when there would be formal formations you would see guys show up wearing nothing but their CIB/CMB's and jump wings,and some of those guys had some pretty serious stuff they could have put on if they had wanted. One senior NCO was even wearing a Iron Cross at a IG formation in 64. Lots of the guys from the WW-2 and Korean War eras had multiple Silver Stars and Purple Hearts,but people mostly didn't trot that stuff out for display except for awards ceremonies and/or IG formations. My company commander on Okie had a MoH from the Korean War,and I didn't even know about it until a couple of years later. All he ever wore on his khaki dress uniforms was his multiple award CIB and his jump wings. This was Ola Mize,one of the finest men to have ever walked the earth. A quiet and soft-spoken man who was a true gentleman. Sadly,he died a year or two ago. BTW,I got the impression that these days it is pretty much mandatory to wear all your ribbons any time you are wearing your dress uniform. That used to be optional unless you were reporting in to a new command or going through a IG inspection.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Just serving in the Gulf War gave me three ribbons. 1. Southwest Asia service medal 2. Saudi Arabia defense ribbon 3. Kuwait liberation medal 2&3 were awarded by the host nations.
"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
I think if I were in uniform and had one of those,I'd be in a hell of a lot of trouble if ordered to wear it. Some things are just so totally wrong they can't be tolerated.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Allies awarding medals to units and groups of Soldiers is nothing new.
"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
I understand this. I have a couple of my own. I don't have any Saudi Arabia Defense Medals though,and if I were still in uniform and were given one,I think I MIGHT prefer a court-martial over wearing it. IMHO,it's something to be ashamed of,not proud about. It's one of the prime reasons I have such a burning hatred for the Bush Crime Family. The Sauds pimped them out and as a result American lives and health were lost defending our and the world's enemies.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
When I was in (79-99) and wearing fatigues you wore Name, Branch, Rank, Unit Patch, Command Patch and any badges you may have earned. Whenever you had to dress in blues you wore Name, Rank, US insignia, your "ribbon rack" and any badges you may have earned, from the looks of the CMSgt picture that hasn't changed.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
You must mean combat patch. What if you earned more than one, like so many troops have in the past decade?
I was authorized to wear 4. You usually wear your most recent one. When the Army combat uniform (ACU) was updated in 2005 it had velcro patches. So you could interchange them if you wanted:)
"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
You must mean combat patch. What if you earned more than one, like so many troops have in the past decade? Command patch designated if you were in something like Military Airlift Command (MAC), Strategic Air Command (SAC), Space Command so forth and so on. We didn't have a combat patch for our fatigues. But for blues you got a ribbon to designate you had been in some such place like Vietnam, Korea, Southwest Asia, WW2, or something like that. From what I've seen now they do have a ribbon for Combat called "Air Force Combat Action Military Ribbon".
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
When I was in the army in the 60's "ribbon racks" were only required for formal ceremonies and reporting in to a new unit. As you know,your ribbons tell everyone your career history at a glance. It was optional for traveling or casual wear like company formations. It was customary for people in fatigues to have all their badges like jump wings,CIB,etc,etc,etc sewn on,but not mandatory. I know this for a fact because I refused to pay to have jump wings and a CIB sewn on my fatigues and jackets after coming back from VN because I only had a little better than 6 months to go in the army,and I wasn't willing to spend the money. Nobody at Bragg was impressed with that stuff anyhow. You stood out if you didn't have any of it.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I had three. In the case of multiples,it was customary to wear the one that YOU felt was most significant. I never did get used to seeing guys wearing a SF patch or 82nd Abn Div patch on each sleeve,though.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Good for them! I always felt sorry for the poor Air Commandoes that put so much on the line so often,and were almost like military redheaded stepchildren because almost nobody even knew they existed,and they looked just like regular AF desk jockey's most of the time. Not sure when they became authorized to wear a blue beret.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
This is a history of the Beret for "ALL" US Forces. http://www.alaska.net/~jcassidy/pdf_files/U.S.%20Armed%20Forces%20Beret% 20History.pdf
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
For doing what if you don't mind me asking?
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
It was an impact award. I was the MNC-I lead on coordinating Joint assets lethal/non-lethal for a 'pinned down' SF advisory team and the downed Apache aircraft which went to support them. The rest is need to know:) But there was some press of the event: BACKGROUND: Millenarians in Najaf hoped to kill Sistani et al. to prepare return of the Mahdi It was late January 2007. The Corps ALO (EASOG commander) appreciated my efforts for recommending retasking of CFACC assets to support what we called "The Mother of all TICs" (troops in contact). His JOC ALO team was a little green around the gills to stomp on who needed to be stomped on:). I also drafted a position paper later that Spring arguing the need for USN CSG air support for the surge. The requirement needed to come from the Army and needed GEN Petreaus' signature. After the memo was signed I traveled with the ALO and my COL boss to the CAOC to deliver the memo to the CFACC commander. At least the above was alluded to in the citation write up. As you know the AFAM is a service/achievement award. No heroism/valor involved. Just doing my job and he recognized me for it. After almost 12 years of my service joined at the hip with ALOs and JTACs, it was nice to have something to remember my brothers in Blue.
"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
Yea but you being an officer I would have put you in for something with a little more teeth than an Achievement Medal.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
I have a vague recollection of something that happened during the Grenada incursion/excursion when Reagan was president. Some of the US troops developed heat injuries during the action. They were eventually awarded purple hearts, if my memory is correct. Look it up.
Some of the US troops developed heat injuries during the action. They were eventually awarded purple hearts, if my memory is correct. Look it up. If any run for office as Dems, their Republican opponent will claim that those injuries were not deserving of purple hearts.
Not to worry. Most who get into politics on either side of the aisle don't serve in the military.
"It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." (Matthew 4:4)
They weren't and aren't.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Military service these days is for the poor and the suckers.
And one of the few occupations that offer retirement.
Very few poor. The services do recruit in poorer neighborhoods but also middle class. Hard to get a rich kid to enlist. Been like that since Sam Adams time. However, given the drawdown, the services can be more selective. As retired Army officer I am now a gray beard instuctor for units ready to deploy. Your comments are not accurate. The Army is getting some very good people of good character in these days. Again, do to them being selective. It is no longer 2004-2008 where a pulse got you in.
"It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." (Matthew 4:4)
That is going away too. The proposal is to offer 401Ks. This way it is portable if the soldier decides not to re-enlist. Suckers no:) In such a draw down of forces they can be more selective. We are getting good troops coming in.
"It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." (Matthew 4:4)
Some of the US troops developed heat injuries during the action. They were eventually awarded purple hearts, if my memory is correct. I think that heatstroke victim you recall may have been in Panama. But Grenada earned 10,000 awards. Paratrooper With Heat Stroke Gets Top Medal August 26, 1990|By DAVID H. HACKWORTH At a bedside ceremony in Texas, the Army chief of staff awarded the Purple Heart medal to hospitalized Pfc. Grant Gipe, a casualty in Operation Just Cause in Panama last December. Paratrooper Gipe was not wounded as he bravely jumped into a night sky crisscrossed with enemy shot and shell. He was not hit while storming an objective. Nor was he felled by a bullet or ripped open by a bayonet in hand-to-hand combat with a Panamanian defender. Rather, Gipe was knocked out of the fight by the blistering sun on the Rio Hato drop zone. The good medics tagged him as a "heat stroke" casualty and sent the 82d Airborne Division trooper to Brooke Army Hospital in San Antonio, where he was awarded the Purple Heart for "heat exhaustion" by Gen. Carl Vuono. Soldiers had trouble with that "old devil sun" for thousands of years before Kipling's "Gunga Din" became a barracks refrain. Countless warriors and many a victory have been lost to heat exhaustion as soldiers bellied up from too much sun, an empty canteen and slack discipline. But in days past, no one got a medal for heat exhaustion, and some heat-struck casualties were even shot by angry commanders who felt they had failed their duty. To award the Purple Heart medal for heat exhaustion is an insult to every living and dead Purple Heart holder. In conflicts past, a soldier had to bleed to get it. Its wearer had had a bullet, fragment or missile rip through his tender body dispatched by an enemy who wanted him permanently out of the way. American warriors considered it and the Medal of Honor the nation's last respected and still sacred military decorations, the only medals that had not been exploited by the glory hunters or diminished by the bureaucrats. Now the Purple Heart too has been corrupted: It has been awarded for a reason other than wounds received as a result of enemy action. My quarrel is not with Gipe, who made a dangerous low-level combat jump into the darkness and later valiantly assisted two other soldiers to the aid station. It's with the bureaucrats in uniform who since the war in Vietnam have been responsible for the debasement of a once-proud and meaningful Army awards and decoration system. The charade has left our soldier's chests so bedecked with fruit salad that the practice is lampooned by professional soldiers around the globe. With Vuono's action, the Army's long-battered, bruised and grossly inflated awards system has sunk to a new low. This took some doing. In Vietnam, literally millions of awards were mechanically churned out. Line colonels and generals routinely got award packages for simply doing their job - normally a Silver Star, Legion of Merit, Distinguished Flying Cross or Bronze Star. A 1st Cavalry Division general was awarded a Silver Star while on R & R. Gen. Alexander Haig won a Distinguished Flying Cross by identifying a Viet Cong unit while flying in his helicopter. Grenada was just as bad: 7,000 American invaders faced a few hundred militia men in a few days of sputtering combat - and almost 10,000 awards were issued. Yet despite these disgraceful examples, the Purple Heart medal stood proud. It was a direct descendant of America's oldest military decoration, the Badge for Military Merit, established by George Washington in 1782. It remained unblemished and untainted by inflation, corruption or manipulation because the rule was that blood had to flow, and combat medics - one of the noblest and bravest bands of warriors - had to sign off on these awards. They could not be bought or compromised. Until Gipe got his medal, the Purple Heart was the ultimate badge of courage and honor, a badge worn proudly by 731,000 living Americans - many of whom gathered recently at the annual meeting of the Military Order of the Purple Heart meeting in Novi, Mich. The medal also served to identify the fakers. A chest full of medals without the Purple Heart gave cause to wonder if the hero who looked like a cross between a Russian general and a Christmas tree had ever been on or near a killing field or was simply a supply ace sporting his having-been-there trophies. Now the sun in Panama and a sham in Texas have changed all that. Not only did Gipe become a casualty of the invasion of Panama, but so did the U.S. Army's award program. * David H. Hackworth is a retired Army colonel who earned eight Purple Hearts in Korea and Vietnam.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestWHY hasn't Hassan been hung/fried yet?
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#43. To: redleghunter, sneakypete, TooConservative (#15)
[redleghunter #15] These were soldiers doing their medical SRP prior to deployment. They were unarmed and shot by a self proclaimed Jihadist at war with the USA.
The "War on Terrorism" is not a war in the sense of Geneva Convention common Article 2, although that view would not be shared by the widow or husband of a soldier killed in Iraq or Afghanistan.
[TooConservative #24] They should if they were attacked by an enemy combatant, uniformed or not.
In short, all the particular cases we have just been considering confirm a general principle which is embodied in all four Geneva Conventions of 1949. Every person in enemy hands must have some status under international law: he is either a prisoner of war and, as such, covered by the Third Convention, a civilian covered by the Fourth Convention, or again, a member of the medical personnel of the armed forces who is covered by the First Convention. There is no intermediate status; nobody in enemy hands can be outside the law.
SECTION II
CHAPTER II
The terms "detainee," "enemy combatant," and "unlawful enemy combatant" do not appear in 1907 Hague Regulation IV, in any Geneva Convention, or in the 1977 Additional Protocols. There is no internationally agreed upon definition of any of the three terms, yet they are commonly used in the war on terrorism. Each suggests a variation on unlawful combatant status and, upon capture, each may determine the treatment of an individual so labeled.
The relevance of IHL in the context of terrorism
#44. To: nolu chan (#43)
#45. To: hondo68, liberator (#42)
WHY hasn't Hassan been hung/fried yet?
#46. To: TooConservative (#26)
(Edited)
[TooConservative #26] Hasan's crimes would have been better prosecuted under federal terrorism charges.
#47. To: redleghunter (#44)
There's a job for you at the Pentagon:)
#48. To: nolu chan (#47)
Uhhh, no there isn't. I'm totally retired.
#49. To: redleghunter (#48)
Which service branch?
#50. To: nolu chan (#49)
#51. To: redleghunter (#50)
Thank you for your service.
#52. To: Gatlin, redleghunter, sneakypete (#28)
#53. To: CZ82 (#52)
#54. To: redleghunter (#29)
#55. To: A K A Stone (#53)
#56. To: CZ82 (#52)
#57. To: redleghunter (#40)
If a Soldier serves in a unit at the time of awarding a unit citation award, then that Soldier can wear, on his right chest that award for the remainder of his/her career.
#58. To: CZ82 (#52)
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I looked at the new AF ribbons chart and there is so many new medals it isn't funny, and most of them are what you get for just showing up to work.
#59. To: sneakypete (#58)
Seemed like in the 80's and 90's the US military was giving out ribbons for everything.
#60. To: redleghunter (#59)
2. Saudi Arabia defense ribbon
#61. To: sneakypete (#60)
#62. To: redleghunter (#61)
Allies awarding medals to units and groups of Soldiers is nothing new.
#63. To: sneakypete (#58)
BTW,I got the impression that these days it is pretty much mandatory to wear all your ribbons any time you are wearing your dress uniform.
#64. To: CZ82 (#63)
Command Patch
#65. To: Fred Mertz, CZ82 (#64)
You must mean combat patch. What if you earned more than one, like so many troops have in the past decade?
#66. To: Fred Mertz (#64)
Command Patch
#67. To: CZ82 (#63)
Whenever you had to dress in blues you wore Name, Rank, US insignia, your "ribbon rack" and any badges you may have earned, from the looks of the CMSgt picture that hasn't changed.
#68. To: Fred Mertz (#64)
(Edited)
You must mean combat patch. What if you earned more than one, like so many troops have in the past decade?
#69. To: CZ82 (#66)
From what I've seen now they do have a ribbon for Combat called "Air Force Combat Action Military Ribbon".
#70. To: sneakypete (#69)
Not sure when they became authorized to wear a blue beret.
#71. To: redleghunter (#56)
The Corps ALO/EASOG commander pinned an AFAM on me.
#72. To: CZ82, GarySpFc (#71)
For doing what if you don't mind me asking?
#73. To: redleghunter (#72)
#74. To: redleghunter, CZ82, sneakypete (#72)
#75. To: Fred Mertz, redleghunter, CZ82, sneakypete (#74)
I have a vague recollection of something that happened during the Grenada incursion/excursion when Reagan was president.
#76. To: Pericles (#75)
If any run for office as Dems, their Republican opponent will claim that those injuries were not deserving of purple hearts.
#77. To: Pericles (#75)
If any run for office as Dems, their Republican opponent will claim that those injuries were not deserving of purple hearts.
#78. To: sneakypete (#77)
#79. To: Pericles (#78)
Military service these days is for the poor and the suckers.
#80. To: Pericles (#78)
Military service these days is for the poor and the suckers.
#81. To: A K A Stone, GarySpFc (#79)
And one of the few occupations that offer retirement.
#82. To: Fred Mertz, redleghunter, CZ82, sneakypete (#74)
I have a vague recollection of something that happened during the Grenada incursion/excursion when Reagan was president.
Recent Award Insults Purple Heart Holders
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