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Title: Army rules Fort Hood shooting victims eligible for Purple Heart
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Dallas Morning News
URL Source: http://www.dallasnews.com/news/loca ... -eligible-for-purple-heart.ece
Published: Feb 9, 2015
Author: Aubree Abril
Post Date: 2015-02-09 14:51:44 by redleghunter
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WASHINGTON — The Army announced Friday that it will award the Purple Heart to victims of the 2009 Fort Hood shooting, after years of resistance. Texas lawmakers welcomed news that the shooting spree, which left 13 people dead and more than 30 wounded, would no longer be classified as an act of “workplace violence,” given the shooter proclaimed himself a jihadi. “This has been a long, hard fight. The victims of this attack have struggled, suffered and been abandoned by this administration. No more,” said Rep. John Carter, the Round Rock Republican whose district includes Fort Hood, the nation’s largest military installation. “Today is a day of victory, and I am honored to have fought on their behalf.” The decision, Carter said, would “provide the victims their due benefits” and “finally give closure to the families.” Poster Comment: About time.
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#19. To: sneakypete (#8)
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Wow not a biased source at all. Only 2LTs whine on "deserving" awards and worry about who gets what.
"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
"Can some ribbon racks be over the top, or is more always better?" https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/can-some- ribbon- racks-be-over-the-top-or-is-more-always-better.
The Army puts unit awards/ribbons on the right chest. This reduces the "Mexican General" effect. Personal awards go over the left chest.
"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
No "Mexican General" effect here... He was against the movie being made about him in 1941
They should if they were attacked by an enemy combatant, uniformed or not. If they are hit by a terrorist who is targeting them as military members, fine.
Prosecutors did not pursue “Terrorism” or “Act of Terror” because Courts-Martial under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) do not currently include such a charge. Nidal Hasan was not tried as an enemy combatant, but instead will be court-martialed. 1
Don't be silly. Hasan's crimes would have been better prosecuted under federal terrorism charges. Much of this is simply the Obola crew refusing to admit they have allowed terrorist attacks to happen on their watch. If they refuse to admit it is terrorism, there is no terrorism on their watch. And the Lefty historians will happily carry water for them.
Lets see Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star, Meritorious Service Medal, Commendation Medal, NO Purple Hearts and a whole lot of I was flying AROUND ribbons and personal achievement ribbons.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
The display of awards and decorations has come a long way for this:
My thoughts as well. But better for an Airmen like you to opine on it:)
"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
These people were killed or injured by one of their own.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I don't think so. He may have wore the uniform but embraced radical Islam and so a traitor.
"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
I'm pretty much in agreement with what is written in that link,but would like to add that in some units like Special Forces it is actually harder to get valor awards than in conventional units. Some of this is based on the fact that SF units in combat generally don't have the required number of senior NCO or office witnesses to write up valor awards. Or at least not enough survive to write them. Related to the above is SF does a lot of covert action missions,and you damn sure can't get a valor award for your actions on a mission that "never happened". For example,Bob Howard got put in for a MoH on 3 separate occasions in a 12 month period,and only got the MoH for the 3rd one. The first two got kicked back to Distinguised Service Crosses. And even that one was written up as a lie in order to get it for him. It was written up as the Hatchet Force platoon he was with was in combat in support of a conventional unit in VN,and the truth is they were on a hilltop in Laos. Since we "weren't in Laos",there was no way in hell he or any other SOG member was going to get a MoH unless the action was disguised at being in support of another US unit in combat in VN that same day. There is also the jealousy factor. For "big medals" like Silver Stars and above,the award recommendations generally go through formal review by non-SF Generals,and the general feeling by them was/is that "SF gets too damn many medals!". They also hate SF because SF is seen by some people as being "better" than "regular soldiers",and regular soldiers resent that. This even happens within SF units,since personal clerks are attached to SF units,but are not SF qualified. There was a personnel clerk at 5th SFG Headquarters in the late 60's that admitted years later that he personally threw away hundreds of valor award recommendations instead of forwarding them to be signed because he knew he would never get one himself,and was jealous.In a normal unit where the troops aren't so spread out and the causality rate isn't so high,this would have been noticed,but the 5th had teams from one end of VN to the other,and from the sea to the Cambodian and Laotian border. If you count SOG teams,even into Laos,Cambodia,and North VN. Small teams of a dozen or less,and people are getting shot up and medivaced all the time,or just getting rotated out and replaced after serving their tours. You write somebody up today for an award,and 2 months later you are no longer in VN OR the 5th SFG to check on the status of the award,so you just assume it was processed and approved because if it had been kicked back for questions you would have heard about that. Even if you were both career SF soldiers you might go 2 or 3 years in other duty assignments without ever seeing each other. Not to mention the fact that senior Army brass hate SF because SF doesn't come under their commands,and they can't order any SF team that may be in their area to run recon missions for them,or steal the SF team members to make into line company platoon sgts. They have a "Big Army" state of mind and will always think that way. I am guessing that the USMC has the same problem with their valor awards since they have to ran past Navy officers who never see combat and never have a chance to win those awards themselves.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Maybe,but that doesn't mean that 0-2's and 0-3's don't get screwed in the process because they didn't play the army "political game" right. And let's be honest with this while we are at it. Who in the US Army or the USMC puts their asses further out on the line with less experience than a 0-1? They exist to lead platoons into combat,and they generally don't have any more experience than most of the men they are leading,and usually far less than their NCO's.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Please correct me if I am wrong,but aren't some unit awards also considered as personal awards,and can/should also be worn on the left if you were a member of that unit and participated in the action the award was given for?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Maybe next time the bullets will bounce off of their Purple Hearts? HA! But...don't these Purple Heart automatically mean the ridiculous meme "workplace violence" no longer works? And also, doesn't it also make Major Nadal Hassan the enemy/traitor at a venue that must now be considered "died/wounded in action"? And WHY hasn't Hassan been hung/fried yet?
For that they ought get a medal so big that it must be towed in a traler ;-)
I just got one in the supermarket checkout along with my M&Ms.
THAT was important. Especially if giving them all a medal was the only way to do it... 0dingleberry and his cabal (including the media) are doing all they can to shield Islam from criticism, enable the Caliphate, and destroy America and the "Christian" West. The return to England of the Churcill bust by the Kenyan makes total sense now. Winston Churchill, "The River War: An Account of the Reconquest of Sudan", Churchill wrote on pages 248-250: "Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."
Interesting...thanks.
The AR-670-1 during my service (since 1986) has all unit valor/service awards on the right chest under the regimental crest. If a Soldier serves in a unit at the time of awarding a unit citation award, then that Soldier can wear, on his right chest that award for the remainder of his/her career. Whenever a Soldier is assigned to a unit with a citation award he/she wears the unit award. Once they leave, they are not authorized to wear the award. Only the service ribbons, and valor/service/achievement awards the Soldier are awarded on orders go on the left chest along with qualification badges like the Airborne wings etc. Case in point. During the Gulf War my Brigade was TACON to the 2nd Marine Division in Kuwait. After the cease fire the USMC/USN awarded the unit the Navy Unit Commendation (NUC). The Marines put that ribbon on the left side with their personal awards and the Army guys put it on the right side. It was a unit award. After a few tours at other posts I stopped wearing the NUC. Too many COLs and CSMs kept asking me what award I was wearing and if I was authorized to wear it. It got kind of old carrying around a paper copy of the orders in my Class A jacket:)
"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
There's a stragetic mind.
"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
Because he was an officer? It seems that they're not too concerned about lowly grunts getting shot up, so they disarm them in the hopes of making the higher ranks safer. The truth is that disarmament makes everyone less safe. It seems that as rank goes up, common sense decreases.
A technical quibble. A war would require two state actors. A lone individual actor cannot create a state of war with a nation. Nor can a non-state actor such as al Qaeda. al Qaeda and the USA can engage in an armed conflict of a non-international character. Gary D. Solis, U.S. Military Academy, The Law of Armed Conflict: International Humanitarian Law in War, Cambridge University Press, 2010, at 21. Also, "There are no longer the statuses of 'quasi-combatant' or 'semi-civilian.'" Id. at 188. Also, "Recall that POW status arises only in common Article 2 international armed conflicts, and in such conflicts the 1949 Geneva Conventions apply in toto, along with the 1977 Additional Protocol I." Id. at 195. The Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC) and International Humanitarian Law (IHL) are applied to conflicts with not more than one state actor. http://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/Military_Law/pdf/GC_1949-IV.pdf Commentary, IV Geneva Convention, Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, Geneva, International Committee of the Red Cross (1958), Jean S. Pictet, Ed., Doctor of Laws, Director for General Affairs of the International Committee of the Red Cross, at page 51, italics as in original: Application of the term enemy combatant is misleading at best. PROTOCOL ADDITIONAL TO THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS OF 12 AUGUST 1949, AND RELATING TO THE PROTECTION OF VICTIMS OF INTERNATIONAL ARMED CONFLICTS (PROTOCOL I), OF 8 JUNE 1977 Excerpt, page 260, italics as in original. COMBATANT AND PRISONER-OF-WAR STATUS Article 43 — Armed forces 1. The armed forces of a Party to a conflict consist of all organized armed forces, groups and units which are under a command responsible to that Party for the conduct of its subordinates, even if that Party is represented by a government or an authority not recognized by an adverse Party. Such armed forces shall be subject to an internal disciplinary system which, inter alia, shall enforce compliance with the rules of international law applicable in armed conflict. 2. Members of the armed forces of a Party to a conflict (other than medical personnel and chaplains covered by Article 33 of the Third Convention) are combatants, that is to say, they have the right to participate directly in hostilities. 3. Whenever a Party to a conflict incorporates a paramilitary or armed law enforcement agency into its armed forces it shall so notify the other Parties to the conflict. Excerpt, page 265, italics as in original. CIVILIANS AND CIVILIAN POPULATION Article 50 — Definition of civilians and civilian population 1. A civilian is any person who does not belong to one of the categories of persons referred to in Article 4 A 1), 2), 3) and 6) of the Third Convention and in Article 43 of this Protocol. In case of doubt whether a person is a civilian, that person shall be considered to be a civilian. 2. The civilian population comprises all persons who are civilians. 3. The presence within the civilian population of individuals who do not come within the definition of civilians does not deprive the population of its civilian character. Note the negative definition of civilians. Whoever is not a member of the armed forces of a party to a conflict as defined by Article 43, is a civilian, as defined by Article 50. Between the two articles, coverage is total to include all persons on the planet. Some of them, plus the rest of them, equals all of them. Note Article 43.2 says, "Members of the armed forces of a Party to a conflict (other than medical personnel and chaplains covered by Article 33 of the Third Convention) are combatants, that is to say, they have the right to participate directly in hostilities." Every combatant is an enemy combatant in the view of the other party. The question goes not to enemy but to combatant. Solis at 224-25. Basically, the terminology used by the U.S. government, in terms of international law, is legal gibberish. https://www.icrc.org/eng/resources/documents/misc/terrorism-ihl-210705.htm International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) 01-01-2011 FAQ Events in recent years have increased interest in the issue of how international humanitarian law is applied in today's context of violent confrontation. In a new paper, the ICRC provides answers to some of the most frequently asked questions about international humanitarian law and terrorism. 1. Is there legal significance to the term "global war on terror?" [...] When armed violence is used outside the context of an armed conflict in the legal sense or when a person suspected of terrorist activities is not detained in connection with any armed conflict, humanitarian law does not apply. Instead, domestic laws, as well as international criminal law and human rights govern. [...] 2. Who is a combatant? International humanitarian law permits members of the armed forces of a State party to an international armed conflict and associated militias who fulfil the requisite criteria to directly engage in hostilities. They are generally considered lawful, or privileged, combatants who may not be prosecuted for the taking part in hostilities as long as they respect international humanitarian law. Upon capture they are entitled to prisoner of war status. If civilians directly engage in hostilities, they are considered "unlawful" or "unprivileged" combatants or belligerents (the treaties of humanitarian law do not expressly contain these terms). They may be prosecuted under the domestic law of the detaining state for such action. Both lawful and unlawful combatants may be interned in wartime, may be interrogated and may be prosecuted for war crimes. Both are entitled to humane treatment in the hands of the enemy. 3. Who is an "enemy combatant?" In its generic sense, an "enemy combatant" is a person who, either lawfully or unlawfully, engages in hostilities for the opposing side in an international armed conflict. The term is currently used — by those who view the fight against terrorism as including a transnational armed conflict against certain terrorist groups — to denote persons believed to belong to, or believed to be associated with terrorist groups, regardless of the circumstances of their capture. As mentioned above, a member of the armed forces of a State engaged in an international armed conflict or of an associated militia that fulfils the requisite criteria is a combatant, and, as such, entitled to POW status upon capture by the enemy. In non-international armed conflict, combatant and prisoner of war status are not provided for, because States are not willing to grant members of armed opposition groups immunity from prosecution under domestic law for taking up arms. From an IHL perspective, the term "combatant" or "enemy combatant" has no legal meaning outside of armed conflict. To the extent that persons designated "enemy combatants" have been captured in international or non-international armed conflict, the provisions and protections of international humanitarian law remain applicable regardless of how such persons are called. Similarly, when individuals are captured outside of armed conflict their actions and protection are governed by domestic law and human rights law, regardless of how they are called. 4. Who is entitled to "prisoner of war" status? What is the consequence of failure to qualify for prisoner of war status? [...] 5. What are the ICRC's role and activities in relation to international humanitarian law? [...] 6. Does Protocol I Additional to the Geneva Conventions treat "terrorists" the same as it does soldiers? [...]
There's a job for you at the Pentagon:) There is enough in LOAC to restrict and their is enough to go the other way. That is why proportionality is key to the entire LOAC.
"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
Because he was an officer? Worse...it's because he's a Muslim.
"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
I would disagree. There is no need to bring in the need to prove terrorism when murder can provide a death penalty. If I were Hasan, I would rather face a federal civilian jury than a military court-martial panel. All members of the panel will be senior to the accused. The court-martial can return a verdict of guilty with a two-thirds majority. Unanimity is only needed only to mandate the death penalty. There are no hung juries in military practice. If the military does not get the job done, Hasan could be tried by the state. Trial for the same act once as a violation of federal law and once as a violation of state law does not violate double jeopardy. Legally, the federal and state governments are considered separate sovereigns. EDIT: Hasan was convicted of 13 counts of premeditated murder, 32 counts of attempted murder. He was sentenced to death (August, 2013). The death penalty automatically starts the appeals process. That's where the case is at.
Uhhh, no there isn't. I'm totally retired.
Which service branch?
"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
I retired from the Navy over 30 years ago. Now I'm just retired.
Thank you for your service.
"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
You too.
That was when Medals were given out for Valor not for just being IN or flying OVER the theatre, who knows how many miles behind the lines. Even when I was in and I retired 16 years ago if aircrew flew into a hazardous theatre (even if it was mega miles behind the lines) you got a Commendation Medal. (You made 10 trips you got 10 Commendation Medals). But.... if you were a passenger on one of those same flights you got......... (Wait for it, wait for it)...... NOTHING!!!!!!!!!! Woohooooo Hell I got shot at on 3 different TDYs by Muzzies and got nothing for it but the aircrew who dumped my ass off got medals for it, go figure. $5 says pete can relate to that. {chuckle} I looked at the new AF ribbons chart and there is so many new medals it isn't funny, and most of them are what you get for just showing up to work. One of them now is just for VOLUNTEERING!!!!!!!!! REALLY???????? (AND that CMSgt even has one of those). LOL. (I wonder if I could have gotten one of those for "being volunteered" to clean the schitter if I had stayed in longer)? :)
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Are you telling me that the Air Force is now like kids sports? You know where they don't keep score and everyone gets a trophy?
I wasn't a "political animal wearing kneepads" or aircrew so my "rack" was much smaller. :)
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Yup! And you probably also get a Certificate to hang on your "I LOVE ME" wall. :)
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
We probably have something in common with awards. I worked on a joint mission with the Corps TACP while in Iraq. I was surprised when called to the BIAP "Air Force House." The Corps ALO/EASOG commander pinned an AFAM on me.
"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I know. I attended some sort of function at Bragg back in the 90's,and saw SF guys wearing whole rows of ribbons I couldn't recognize. Seemed like in the 80's and 90's the US military was giving out ribbons for everything. IIRC,I was told that some of the ribbons were for stuff like the annual field training exercises in Europe. I think they were called "Reforger" or some such crap. I was surprised you would get a actual medal and ribbon for being in a field exercise. I remember back in the 60's when there would be formal formations you would see guys show up wearing nothing but their CIB/CMB's and jump wings,and some of those guys had some pretty serious stuff they could have put on if they had wanted. One senior NCO was even wearing a Iron Cross at a IG formation in 64. Lots of the guys from the WW-2 and Korean War eras had multiple Silver Stars and Purple Hearts,but people mostly didn't trot that stuff out for display except for awards ceremonies and/or IG formations. My company commander on Okie had a MoH from the Korean War,and I didn't even know about it until a couple of years later. All he ever wore on his khaki dress uniforms was his multiple award CIB and his jump wings. This was Ola Mize,one of the finest men to have ever walked the earth. A quiet and soft-spoken man who was a true gentleman. Sadly,he died a year or two ago. BTW,I got the impression that these days it is pretty much mandatory to wear all your ribbons any time you are wearing your dress uniform. That used to be optional unless you were reporting in to a new command or going through a IG inspection.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Just serving in the Gulf War gave me three ribbons. 1. Southwest Asia service medal 2. Saudi Arabia defense ribbon 3. Kuwait liberation medal 2&3 were awarded by the host nations.
"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." (Psalm 139:13)
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#20. To: Gatlin (#18)
How did I achieve least-decorated status in spite of being a West Point graduate, airborne, Ranger who volunteered for Vietnam? Easy. I did not suck up to my superiors.
#21. To: redleghunter, sneakypete (#20)
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#22. To: Gatlin (#21)
#23. To: redleghunter (#22)
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This reduces the "Mexican General" effect.
but needed the funds to start a Bible School. Admirable!!!
#24. To: sneakypete (#8)
I'm sure it does,but military members that are murdered by a traitor in their own unit shouldn't be getting a Purple Heart.
Next thing you know they will be handing them out to clerks and cooks that get hurt in a car accident while driving to work at the base/
#25. To: TooConservative (#24)
#26. To: Gatlin (#25)
Prosecutors did not pursue “Terrorism” or “Act of Terror” because Courts-Martial under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) do not currently include such a charge. Nidal Hasan was not tried as an enemy combatant, but instead will be court-martialed.
#27. To: Gatlin, redleghunter (#21)
#28. To: CZ82 (#27)
Through this:
To this:
#29. To: CZ82 (#27)
Lets see Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star, Meritorious Service Medal, Commendation Medal, NO Purple Hearts and a whole lot of I was flying AROUND ribbons and personal achievement ribbons.
#30. To: redleghunter (#15)
Even REMFs in Vietnam got the PH for enemy indirect fire.
#31. To: sneakypete (#30)
These people were killed or injured by one of their own.
#32. To: Gatlin (#18)
Did U.S. military personnel really earn all their medals? .
#33. To: redleghunter (#20)
Only 2LTs whine on "deserving" awards and worry about who gets what.
#34. To: redleghunter (#22)
The Army puts unit awards/ribbons on the right chest. This reduces the "Mexican General" effect. Personal awards go over the left chest.
#35. To: hondo68, redleghunter, sneakypete (#3)
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Some firearms would be more useful, but a Purple Heart is better than nothing.
#36. To: Pinguinite (#4)
American corrupt foreign policy plays a strong majority role which placed them in danger in the first place.
#37. To: sneakypete (#10)
Now they want to give them out to everybody.
#38. To: redleghunter (#0)
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The decision, Carter said, would “provide the victims their due benefits” and “finally give closure to the families.”
#39. To: sneakypete (#32)
#40. To: sneakypete (#34)
Please correct me if I am wrong,but aren't some unit awards also considered as personal awards,and can/should also be worn on the left if you were a member of that unit and participated in the action the award was given for?
#41. To: Liberator (#38)
"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."
#42. To: Liberator (#35)
WHY hasn't Hassan been hung/fried yet?
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#43. To: redleghunter, sneakypete, TooConservative (#15)
[redleghunter #15] These were soldiers doing their medical SRP prior to deployment. They were unarmed and shot by a self proclaimed Jihadist at war with the USA.
The "War on Terrorism" is not a war in the sense of Geneva Convention common Article 2, although that view would not be shared by the widow or husband of a soldier killed in Iraq or Afghanistan.
[TooConservative #24] They should if they were attacked by an enemy combatant, uniformed or not.
In short, all the particular cases we have just been considering confirm a general principle which is embodied in all four Geneva Conventions of 1949. Every person in enemy hands must have some status under international law: he is either a prisoner of war and, as such, covered by the Third Convention, a civilian covered by the Fourth Convention, or again, a member of the medical personnel of the armed forces who is covered by the First Convention. There is no intermediate status; nobody in enemy hands can be outside the law.
SECTION II
CHAPTER II
The terms "detainee," "enemy combatant," and "unlawful enemy combatant" do not appear in 1907 Hague Regulation IV, in any Geneva Convention, or in the 1977 Additional Protocols. There is no internationally agreed upon definition of any of the three terms, yet they are commonly used in the war on terrorism. Each suggests a variation on unlawful combatant status and, upon capture, each may determine the treatment of an individual so labeled.
The relevance of IHL in the context of terrorism
#44. To: nolu chan (#43)
#45. To: hondo68, liberator (#42)
WHY hasn't Hassan been hung/fried yet?
#46. To: TooConservative (#26)
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[TooConservative #26] Hasan's crimes would have been better prosecuted under federal terrorism charges.
#47. To: redleghunter (#44)
There's a job for you at the Pentagon:)
#48. To: nolu chan (#47)
Uhhh, no there isn't. I'm totally retired.
#49. To: redleghunter (#48)
Which service branch?
#50. To: nolu chan (#49)
#51. To: redleghunter (#50)
Thank you for your service.
#52. To: Gatlin, redleghunter, sneakypete (#28)
#53. To: CZ82 (#52)
#54. To: redleghunter (#29)
#55. To: A K A Stone (#53)
#56. To: CZ82 (#52)
#57. To: redleghunter (#40)
If a Soldier serves in a unit at the time of awarding a unit citation award, then that Soldier can wear, on his right chest that award for the remainder of his/her career.
#58. To: CZ82 (#52)
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I looked at the new AF ribbons chart and there is so many new medals it isn't funny, and most of them are what you get for just showing up to work.
#59. To: sneakypete (#58)
Seemed like in the 80's and 90's the US military was giving out ribbons for everything.
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