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Title: Army rules Fort Hood shooting victims eligible for Purple Heart
Source: Dallas Morning News
URL Source: http://www.dallasnews.com/news/loca ... -eligible-for-purple-heart.ece
Published: Feb 9, 2015
Author: Aubree Abril
Post Date: 2015-02-09 14:51:44 by redleghunter
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Comments: 101

WASHINGTON — The Army announced Friday that it will award the Purple Heart to victims of the 2009 Fort Hood shooting, after years of resistance.

Texas lawmakers welcomed news that the shooting spree, which left 13 people dead and more than 30 wounded, would no longer be classified as an act of “workplace violence,” given the shooter proclaimed himself a jihadi.

“This has been a long, hard fight. The victims of this attack have struggled, suffered and been abandoned by this administration. No more,” said Rep. John Carter, the Round Rock Republican whose district includes Fort Hood, the nation’s largest military installation.

“Today is a day of victory, and I am honored to have fought on their behalf.”

The decision, Carter said, would “provide the victims their due benefits” and “finally give closure to the families.”

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#3. To: redleghunter (#0)

Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, was found guilty this month on 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder after opening fire Nov. 5, 2009, at Fort Hood’s Soldier Readiness Processing Center, where troops were getting medical checkups before deploying to Afghanistan.

Hasan, who was scheduled to deploy to Afghanistan a few weeks later, shouted “Allahu ­akbar!” meaning “God is great,” before targeting soldiers with a high-powered, high-capacity handgun he had fitted with laser sights. He was apprehended by military police officers after firing more than 200 shots.

www.washingtonpost.com/wo...6-e4fc677d94a1_story.html

Some firearms would be more useful, but a Purple Heart is better than nothing.

Maybe next time the bullets will bounce off of their Purple Hearts?

Hondo68  posted on  2015-02-09   15:16:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: hondo68 (#3)

Some firearms would be more useful, but a Purple Heart is better than nothing.

They'll get more benefits this way which had been denied to them and their families because it was declared "workplace violence".

So it makes a big difference to the survivors and families, I think.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-09   17:25:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative (#5)

So it makes a big difference to the survivors and families, I think.

I'm sure it does,but military members that are murdered by a traitor in their own unit shouldn't be getting a Purple Heart.

Next thing you know they will be handing them out to clerks and cooks that get hurt in a car accident while driving to work at the base/

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-09   18:20:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: sneakypete (#8) (Edited)

Did U.S. military personnel really earn all their medals? .

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-10   0:09:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Gatlin (#18)

Did U.S. military personnel really earn all their medals? .

I'm pretty much in agreement with what is written in that link,but would like to add that in some units like Special Forces it is actually harder to get valor awards than in conventional units.

Some of this is based on the fact that SF units in combat generally don't have the required number of senior NCO or office witnesses to write up valor awards. Or at least not enough survive to write them.

Related to the above is SF does a lot of covert action missions,and you damn sure can't get a valor award for your actions on a mission that "never happened". For example,Bob Howard got put in for a MoH on 3 separate occasions in a 12 month period,and only got the MoH for the 3rd one. The first two got kicked back to Distinguised Service Crosses. And even that one was written up as a lie in order to get it for him. It was written up as the Hatchet Force platoon he was with was in combat in support of a conventional unit in VN,and the truth is they were on a hilltop in Laos. Since we "weren't in Laos",there was no way in hell he or any other SOG member was going to get a MoH unless the action was disguised at being in support of another US unit in combat in VN that same day.

There is also the jealousy factor. For "big medals" like Silver Stars and above,the award recommendations generally go through formal review by non-SF Generals,and the general feeling by them was/is that "SF gets too damn many medals!". They also hate SF because SF is seen by some people as being "better" than "regular soldiers",and regular soldiers resent that.

This even happens within SF units,since personal clerks are attached to SF units,but are not SF qualified. There was a personnel clerk at 5th SFG Headquarters in the late 60's that admitted years later that he personally threw away hundreds of valor award recommendations instead of forwarding them to be signed because he knew he would never get one himself,and was jealous.In a normal unit where the troops aren't so spread out and the causality rate isn't so high,this would have been noticed,but the 5th had teams from one end of VN to the other,and from the sea to the Cambodian and Laotian border. If you count SOG teams,even into Laos,Cambodia,and North VN. Small teams of a dozen or less,and people are getting shot up and medivaced all the time,or just getting rotated out and replaced after serving their tours. You write somebody up today for an award,and 2 months later you are no longer in VN OR the 5th SFG to check on the status of the award,so you just assume it was processed and approved because if it had been kicked back for questions you would have heard about that. Even if you were both career SF soldiers you might go 2 or 3 years in other duty assignments without ever seeing each other.

Not to mention the fact that senior Army brass hate SF because SF doesn't come under their commands,and they can't order any SF team that may be in their area to run recon missions for them,or steal the SF team members to make into line company platoon sgts. They have a "Big Army" state of mind and will always think that way.

I am guessing that the USMC has the same problem with their valor awards since they have to ran past Navy officers who never see combat and never have a chance to win those awards themselves.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-10   14:34:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#39. To: sneakypete (#32)

Interesting...thanks.

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