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Jump / Trump --- van Halen jump "The Democrat Meltdown Continues" Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Corrupt Government See other Corrupt Government Articles Title: Easy Street. Move to Hawaii and the government will give you 60 grand for not working. Source: [None] URL Source: http://joeforamerica.com/2014/11/we ... tistics-will-make-really-mad/# Published: Feb 9, 2015 Author: Joe for America Post Date: 2015-02-09 14:03:33 by A K A Stone Keywords: None Views: 7237 Comments: 15 Having trouble just making ends meet because of taxes that go to people who don’t work? Check your State and see how you’d do not working at all! [BELOW] Hit that share button and Tweet or send an email link to every working man and woman you know. Read more at http://joeforamerica.com/2014/11/welfare-payout-statistics-will- make-really-mad/ Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 14. #2. To: A K A Stone (#0) Move to Hawaii and the government will give you 60 grand for not working There are always at least two sides to every story......... authority.scientopia.org/2013/08/21/no-cato-welfare- doesnt-pay-more-than-minimum-wage/ Jameson  posted on  2015-02-09   14:40:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Jameson (#2) There are always at least two sides to every story......... Here, I fixed your link for you: No, Cato, Welfare Doesn't Pay More Than Minimum Wage Willie Green  posted on  2015-02-09   16:28:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: Willie Green, Jameson (#3) White Paper The Work versus Welfare Trade-Off: 2013 By Michael D. Tanner and Charles Hughes August 19, 2013 The full White Paper by the Cato Institute is available in pdf, epub, and mobi formats at: http://www.cato.org/publications/white-paper/work-versus-welfare-trade The PDF download is at: http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/the_work_versus_welfare_trade-off_2013_wp.pdf I note that the Mike Dunford article at scientopia refers to taking a job at "minimum wage" and the Cato Institute article refers to taking a job "paying slightly less than welfare." I'm not sure what the precise difference is but logic suggests that unless welfare pays more than minimum wage, a job paying slightly less than welfare would, necessarily, pay less than minimum wage. http://authority.scientopia.org/2013/08/21/no-cato-welfare-doesnt-pay-more-than-minimum-wage/ The truth of the matter, of course, is that even a minimum wage job is likely to leave a family better off than no job at all. This is true in part because many assistance programs do not automatically cut off the moment that you start to work. The programs have income-based eligibility requirements, and many people who work minimum wage jobs will continue to qualify for these programs. This does not show up in the Cato report, because the Cato report did not bother to include continued eligibility for benefits when they compared "welfare" with a minimum wage job. http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/the_work_versus_welfare_trade-off_2013_wp.pdf From the Cato Report at page 2: Because of increases in the Earned In­come Tax Credit (EITC) and the cre­ation of the Child Tax Credit (CTC), as well as the adoption of state-level equiv­alents of the EITC, it is possible for an individual leaving welfare to take a job paying slightly less than welfare without a loss of income in 39 states. However, that difference is small and not likely to offset the value of leisure. At scientopia, commenter Andy noted: You're also ignoring the fact that many people on welfare also work part time jobs, attempting to stay under a certain income in order to receive benefits. They're also getting paid for literally doing nothing, while (as Daniel mentioned) working families have additional costs. Not just daycare, but transportation and food as well. Then take into account many others on welfare who work off the books, or do side jobs such as computer repair/auto repair/scrap collecting etc. And there's even more who sell drugs and services for money. http://cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/hhs-report-percentage-americans-welfare-hits-recorded-high HHS Report: Percentage of Americans on Welfare Hits Recorded High July 8, 2014 - 11:19 AM By Terence P. Jeffrey (CNSNews.com) - According to the 2014 version of a report that the Department of Health and Human Services is required by law to issue annually, the percentage of Americans on welfare in 2011 was the highest yet calculated. The data for 2011 is the most recent in the report. [snip] http://aspe.hhs.gov/hsp/14/indicators/rpt_indicators.pdf Welfare Indicators and Risk Factors, 30th Annual Report to Congress, 2014 (PDF-165 Pages) U.S. Department of Health and Human Services nolu chan  posted on  2015-02-09   17:30:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 14.         There are no replies to Comment # 14. End Trace Mode for Comment # 14. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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