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I'm here for the moneuy Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Religion See other Religion Articles Title: Pope Francis: It's OK to Spank Children If It's Done With Dignity Source: Fox News URL Source: [None] Published: Feb 7, 2015 Author: As seen on The Kelly File Post Date: 2015-02-07 23:04:52 by GrandIsland Keywords: None Views: 2281 Comments: 3 Pope Francis is stirring up controversy with remarks that it’s OK to spank children as long as it’s done with dignity. The pope was speaking at the Vatican this week on the importance of a good father. He recalled a conversation with a father who admitted he hit his children, but not in the face. “How beautiful. He has a sense of dignity. He needs to punish them and he does it justly and moves on,” Pope Francis reportedly said. A reverend who collaborates with the Vatican press office reportedly defended Pope Francis, saying, “Simply watch Pope Francis when he is with children and let the images and gestures speak for themselves.” Do you agree with Pope Francis? Let us know in the comments. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: All (#0) (Edited) Pope Francis: It's OK to Spank Children If It's Done With Dignity I think it's OK for priests to take confession from small boys... as long as they keep their pants on and it's done with dignity. Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy GrandIsland  posted on  2015-02-07   23:07:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: GrandIsland (#1) Most Catholics I know think this pope is a disaster. "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. " (Romans 1:16-17) redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-07   23:56:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: GrandIsland (#0) Do you agree with Pope Francis? Let us know in the comments. Better question would be, does pope francis agree with God's teachings?? Spare the rod spoil the child, spoil the child ruin the nation. Hebrews 12 Yes there are absolutes, and yes, spanking your sons and daughters is OK There are many reasons our nation and all of the governments of the world have become pond scum, and that reason starts with parents and grandparents as does the solutions. First we must understand who government obeys and follows: 5 And the devil, taking Him (Jesus) up into an high mountain, shewed unto Him (Jesus) all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6&7 And the devil said unto Him (Jesus), "All this power will I give Thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. If Thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be Thine." 8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind Me, satan: for it is written, thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve. Luke 4:5-8 ACP/KJV Today, too many worship the government and not Jesus. Many who refer to themselves as Christians put the things of government ahead of the commands of Jesus. Many seem to think of obama and other politicians as god while they relegate Jesus to the role of friend. Many look to the parental training offered by book writers, doctors, and government rulers for instruction on how to best raise and discipline their little ones rather than turning to God's word and studying His instructions on the raising of children. The two methods could not be further apart, for they are diametrically opposite guaranteeing diametrically opposite results. I don't need to tell you how the government tells you how to discipline your child, I don't need to tell you what liberal preachers tell you, nor what doctors, and the medical society tells you as to disciplining your sons and daughters. What I need to show you is how God expects you to discipline your sons and daughters. In Proverbs 19, verse 18 we read: Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying. Let us look at two words, first the word "chasten" and then the word "son". The Hebrew word translated chasten is yacar, pronounced yaw-sar' and means both with blows, as in a spanking and verbally as when correcting, or a combination of both. The word son, is ben pronounced bane, and, sorry girls, it means primarily sons, but in this context, child. Yet with girls we must always, even when disciplining never lose sight of the fact that they are the weaker vessel. In Numbers 12:14 we read: And the LORD said unto Moses, If her father had but spit in her face, should she not be ashamed seven days? let her be shut out from the camp seven days, and after that let her be received in. This is when Aaron and Miriam had gone against Moses and God needed to straighten them out, what God did was give Miriam leprosy, Moses prayed begging the Lord to make her clean, God says basically, if her father had disciplined her when she was a child He wouldn't have to. But notice, God is not saying her father should have whipped her or even spanked her, God said "If her father had but spit in her face". The word translated "spit" is yaraq, and it simply means spit, as in expelling liquid from your mouth, in this case from Miriam's fathers mouth onto her face. While God does, in no way, prohibit the spanking of girls, He seems to imply that they are not to be spanked as hard as boy children, and that with girls things such as water in the face, may work. Let us look further. In Proverbs 13:24 we read: He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes. Once again the word translated "son" is ben, the word translated "rod" the Hebrew word shebet, pronounced shay'-bet and means a stick or a rod, as for punishment. Keep in mind the Hebrew word ben, while primarily is a son or grandson, it can also mean child or even daughter. In Proverbs 23:13 we read this: Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. In this verse the word translated "child" is na`ar, and it means child, a boy or girl from the age of infancy to adolescence. The word "correction" is muwcar, pronounced moo-sawr' and means chastisement; figuratively, reproof, warning or instruction; also restraint:--bond, chastening, chastisement, check, correction, discipline, doctrine, instruction, rebuke. The literal word for word translation of this verse is: Withhold not from a youth chastisement, When thou smitest him with a rod he dieth not. Now hold on, can't a boy die if he is beat with a rod? Of course he can, but not by someone who loves him enough to spank him. Now, before I close by going to the book of Hebrews, I want to ask moms a question; Who do you want your husband to be more like, Obama, Clinton, or God Almighty? Fathers, how about you, who do you look to as your role model, Christ, Obama, or Clinton? Hebrews Chapter 12:4-8 Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin. And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked by Him: For whom the Lord loveth He chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom He receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. The title of this thought is "Spare the rod spoil the child, spoil the child ruin the nation." The once mighty, the once blessed, the once proud and free people of the United States have given their God given and Constitutionally guaranteed rights away. The US has left off being the bastillion of right, just, and free and become nothing more than one more socialist oligarchy. This has happened, for the most part because fathers stopped being fathers, mothers became the heads of households and children were sent to their rooms instead of being switched. The nation became a nation of cowards, of druggies, of sluts and bums, not through the Christ but by our ignoring Him and now, we are and will be reaping the harvest our society has sowed. In 1860 the wrath of God caused the North to fight the South, the devastation was terrible. That was over the issue of slavery. Now comes the issue of abortion. How much worse do you think God's wrath is about to unfold on this country, when over 100 million little boys and girls trapped in the womb have been used as little human blood sacrifices to the devil? When a nation is founded on the principals of life and Christ, and then turns and becomes a nation of death, murder and spitting in the face of Christ, that nation can but feel the wrath of God, a wrath equal to it's traitorous betrayal of it's founding principals and God. I'm afraid God has chosen the devils He is going to use. They include, in addition to ISIS and other terrorist organizations, Russia, Congress, the Courts, the Administration and our own police and military. If you are not a Born Again Washed in the Blood of the Lamb Christian, you are in for a time that you will consider hell on earth, but compared to eternal hell, it will be a walk in the park. BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-09   11:08:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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