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Title: Obama Rips Bible, Praises Koran
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URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/national-s ... bama-rips-bible-praises-koran/
Published: Feb 7, 2015
Author: Ben Shapiro
Post Date: 2015-02-07 06:32:22 by cranky
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Unless we get on our high horse and think that this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ. In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ. So it is not unique to one group or one religion. There is a tendency in us, a simple tendency that can pervert and distort our faith. This is historically and philosophically illiterate. Historically speaking, the Crusades were a response to Islamic aggression in Europe and the Middle East; the Inquisition, as Jonah Goldberg points out while quoting historian Thomas Madden, director of the Center for Medieval and Renaissance Studies at Saint Louis University, was designed to regularize executions rather than leaving them to the will of the masses. Christians undoubtedly pursued horrible brutalities against people, including innocent Jews. However, as Goldberg points out, “Christianity, even in its most terrible days, even under the most corrupt popes, even during the most unjustifiable wars, was indisputably a force for the improvement of man.” Nowhere is that clearer than in Obama’s second example, slavery. Virtually all of the most ardent abolitionists were deeply religious Christians. Hundreds of thousands of American men marched to their deaths singing “The Battle Hymn of the Republic”: “In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea / With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me / As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free / While God is marching on.” That was 150 years ago. It’s not exactly the modern Islamic slogan, “Death to the Jews.” Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr., was, as his name suggests, a reverend. He quoted old black Christian spirituals and the Biblical story of the exodus from Egypt. Christians obliterated slavery. Christians obliterated Jim Crow. Modern slavery is largely perpetrated by Muslims. Modern Jim Crow is certainly perpetrated by Muslims under shariah law. There is a larger point, here, too: President Obama’s foolish argument suggests that because Christians were brutal a millennium ago, they should shut up about brutalities today. This is somewhat like saying that because someone’s great-great-grandfather held slaves in rural Alabama, that person should shut up about human trafficking in 2015. It’s asinine. But Obama has a history of insulting Christianity and Judaism while upholding Islam. In 2006, Obama bashed the Bible and religious Christians and Jews in particular: Which passages of Scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is ok and that eating shellfish is abomination? How about Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith? Or should we just stick to the Sermon on the Mount – a passage that is so radical that it’s doubtful that our own Defense Department would survive its application? So before we get carried away, let’s read our bibles. Folks haven’t been reading their bibles. He then concluded that religious leaders should not speak out against publicly-funded contraception or gay marriage. We can get into President Obama’s pathetic Biblical commentary here – his interpretation of Leviticus on slavery is incorrect, Jews still avoid shellfish, the Talmud explains that no child has ever been stoned for rebelliousness, and the Sermon on the Mount is not a pacifist document. Obama’s not Biblically literate – he’s the same fellow who says, “I think the good book says don’t throw stones in glass houses.” He said in The Audacity of Hope that he would define Biblical values however he chose, stating that he is not willing “to accept a reading of the Bible that considers an obscure line in Romans to be more defining of Christianity than the Sermon on the Mount.” Both are, in fact, parts of the Bible. Citing the Sermon on the Mount to justify civil unions for homosexuals, as Obama has done, is not in fact Biblical. But more importantly, Obama’s scorn for the old-fashioned Bible is obvious. That became more obvious in 2008, when Obama told some of his buddies in San Francisco that unemployed idiots “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” The Obama administration has routinely attacked religious organizations and people who violate Obama’s personal political predilections. They’ve attacked all trappings of Christianity as well. Whether they’re using Obamacare to force religious individuals to pay for others’ contraception or toning down the National Day of Prayer instead of holding a public ceremony, whether they’re covering a monogram of Jesus at Georgetown University during a presidential speech or objecting to adding FDR’s D-Day prayer to the WWII memorial, the Obama administration clearly isn’t fond of Christianity. This contrasts strongly with President Obama’s romantic vision of Islam. He famously called the Muslim call to prayer “the sweetest sound I know.” He said in his first presidential interview, with Al-Arabiya, that his job was “to communicate to the American people that the Muslim world is filled with extraordinary people who simply want to live their lives and see their children live better lives.” Weeks later, he said in Turkey, “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.” A few months later, in a speech in Cairo to which he invited the Muslim Brotherhood, Obama said: I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed. That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear. He added that Islam has a “proud tradition of tolerance,” explained, ‘Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace,” and said, “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.” He said in his Ramadan message in 2009 that Islam has played a key “role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.” ISIS, Obama has said over and over again, is not Islamic. His administration maintains that America is not at war with radical Islam. He stated before the United Nations in 2012, just weeks after the murder of four Americans in Benghazi, Libya at the hands of Muslim terrorists, “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.” Hillary Clinton allegedly promised Charles Woods, father of one of the slain in Benghazi, that the administration would achieve the arrest of the YouTube filmmaker behind The Innocence of Muslims. The State Department issued taxpayer-funded commercials denouncing that YouTube video. President Obama variously called the video “crude and disgusting” and stated that “its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity.” At the UN in 2014, Obama lauded a Muslim cleric who backs Hamas. And, of course, Obama uses Islamic theology to promote his vision of world peace: All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer. All three religions do have access to holy sites now, in Jewish-run Jerusalem. They did not when Muslims ruled Jerusalem. But facts have no bearing in the fantasy world of the president. Perhaps one final contrast tells the tale. In 2012, according to the Washington Post. “U.S. troops tried to burn about 500 copies of the Koran as part of a badly bungled security sweep at an Afghan prison in February.” Two American soldiers were shot in the aftermath. This prompted President Obama to apologize profusely to Afghan President Hamid Karzai, writing him a letter stating, “We will take the appropriate steps to avoid any recurrence, including holding accountable those responsible.” Three years earlier, members of the military burned Bibles printed in Pashto and Dari. CNN reported that they had been discarded “amid concern they would be used to try to convert Afghans.” The Bibles were burned rather than sent back to their source organization because the military worried they might be re-sent to another outlet in Afghanistan. There was no apology to the church that printed the Bibles, or to Christians more broadly. Sure, radical Muslims around the world, supported by millions of their compatriots and friendly governments, are murdering innocents. But it’s Christian aggression that forces Muslims to burn other Muslims alive in Muslim countries.
On Thursday, at the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington, D.C., President Obama blithely informed his audience that Christians ought not get on their “high horse” about the problem of radical Islam:
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And yet another opportune moment for TAR AND FEATHERS slipped away! -jmho
He's a Constitutional scholar, doncha know?
He's a Constitutional scholar, doncha know? Obama's middle name is Hussein so there is that sympathy he may have for Islam and/or maybe he is trying to prevent war fever in the USA - like the sinking of the Lusitania type of fever. As long as we don't go to war - more than we are that is - there. The Arabs have armies - this ISIS is a rabble that functions in a war zone no man's land the USA helped create by supporting Syrian rebels. Back the Assad regime and this is all over in 3 months.
No, I don't think Obama is a secret Muslim. I am saying that he lived in Muslim countries, His 2 fathers were Muslim - the Indonesian step dad and the birth father and he lived in a Muslim country (Indonesia). So without being Muslim himself he has a sympathy for them. That is not the same thing as being a Muslim himself (he drinks beer for example - and no he is not doing that to throw us off the Muslim scent). Obama has not done one thing to make the USA more Islamic - if anything his policies like supporting abortion and gay rights is anti-Muslim.
I'd love to play a few rounds of poker with you, boy(?). LOL! I'm sorry, but there are just no more words left to define...STUPID!!!
LOL! I'm sorry, but there are just no more words left to define...STUPID!!! Perciles may by correct and then he may not. After you finish rolling on the floor, please get up and tell him, and everyone, what Obama has done to make the USA more Islamic.
"and tell him, and everyone, what Obama has done to make the USA more Islamic." Pericles, as long as you are watching obama's right hand, then you won't be bothered by what he's doing with his left~ No president, from the founding fathers of this nation, till today, has seen fit after Islamic barbarians committed savage, inhumane atrocities before the cameras of the world, Obama has. A sane person does not jump to the defense of evil doers, a sane person does not incourage them with praise for their KORAN, that leads them on to even more wholesale slaughter, while in the same breath, trash his own country, blame this country and our people for their acts of savagery in the name of their heathen god. These rabid animals have all the support and encouragement they need from the lips of Obama himself to continue, they don't need mine, and will never have it...NEVER! - jmho #1 “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam” #2 “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer” #3 “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.” #4 “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.” #5 “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.” #6 “Islam has always been part of America” #7 “we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities” #8 “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.” #9 “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.” #10 “I made clear that America is not – and never will be – at war with Islam.”
Can anyone claim that it is not the intent of Islam to impose Sharia Law as the only law around the globe? But even Mulsims know that this can't happene but in small steps. Our POS current POTUS has contributed more than his fair of these small steps to obtaining the true Muslim goal for the planet.
Why Obama Is Right to Avoid a Double Standard on Modern Christian Atrocities. President Obama, speaking on Thursday at the National Prayer Breakfast, condemned religious extremism in the Muslim world, noting that it is the work of twisted individuals rather than being intrinsic to the religion. He then added, “And lest we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ. In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ.” It is actually amazing that Southern Christianity does not get called out more often for its role in slavery and racial discrimination in the United States, especially since its churches are still for the most part segregated! I mean, don’t people know why there is a Southern Baptist denomination in the first place? Why not just “Baptist?” The US History website notes: The southern Christian churches conducted something like a genocide against the slaves. British North America and then the USA kidnapped and enslaved about 500,000 persons from 1600 to 1808. In addition, the North American slavers killed off about 200,000 Africans trying to capture people in Africa or let them die in the unsanitary holds of the Middle Passage across the Atlantic. Once they were on the plantations, the slaves were often worked to death; in 1830-1860 only 10 percent were over 50 years old. Their children were kidnapped from them and sold. Women and men who formed common law unions were separated and sold. Ten to 20 percent of what became over time 4 million slaves had been Muslim but their religion was stolen from them and they were forcibly converted to Christianity. Southern Christian seminaries produced an endless stream of theological writing upholding all these criminal acts. It was done very much in the name of the Bible. Other Christians worked for abolition, so all this support for enslavement was not intrinsic to Christianity; it was a matter of a particular interpretation of Christianity. Slavery was widespread in the world, but Southern American plantation slavery was called the ‘peculiar institution’ for a reason– much slavery elsewhere was household slavery, as in most of the Muslim world. It was no fun to be someone’s property in a household either, but plantations (and this was true of Brazilian plantations as well) were particularly deadly, often killing the workers by age 40. As for Jim Crow, the American version of South Africa’s Apartheid wherein African-Americans could not so much as drink from the same fountain as whites, Colin Chapell writes of Carolyn Renée Dupont’s Mississippi Praying: “Dupont demonstrates that defenders of Mississippi’s segregated society turned early and often to evangelical theology in order to justify their views on race . . . her work unequivocally shows the religious commitment to segregation among white evangelicals. The white evangelical commitment to individualistic theology also led the way for an understanding of the world in which the disadvantages facing African Americans in the South were a result of their own failings rather than any structural stumbling blocks.” On the order of 2 to 3 African-Americans were lynched every week under Jim Crow segregation, or up to 12,000 or so wantonly murdered by Christians during these 80 years. But Obama could have mentioned other modern Christian atrocities. Christians often blame Christian violence on secular nationalism so as to dissociate themselves from the some 100 million persons mown down by those of white Christian heritage from Europe and the US in the 20th century. But many of those millions were killed by believing Christians on behalf of explicitly Christian states. I figure that Muslims killed about 2-3 million in the same period, though again, many of those were killed for secular nationalist purposes, not Islam per se. Take Croatian Catholic nationalism in the 1930s and 1940s. It gave rise to the Ustashe movement. . (In the former Yugoslavia, Croats are largely Catholic, Bosnians mostly Muslim and Serbs for the most part Eastern Orthodox). If Ustashe had merely been a form of secular nationalism, it would not have demanded that Serbs convert to Catholicism from Eastern Orthodoxy, which it did. It was a sectarian Christian movement, not a secular one. Catholicism was just deeply intertwined with Croation identity. Ustashe killed 30,000 Jews, 40,000 Roma and about 500,000 Serbs (hint: Yugoslavia was not very populous– these are massive numbers). While the Catholic Church in Croatia was deeply divided on the movement, many in the lower level clergy actively supported it, and [pdf] and Franciscans provided some of the more enthusiastic executioners in the camps. Or in Spain in the 1930s, the Catholic Church was closely allied with Gen. Francisco Franco and declared the struggle against the Spanish left in the civil war a “Crusade.” Franco’s Crusade against the Left probably left on the order of 200,000 dead (some historians say twice that). These 200,000 individuals were killed (yes, Rush Limbaugh and Michelle Malkin) in the name of Christ. I don’t mean to pick on the poor Catholics. The Dutch Reformed Church was not innocent in the imperial wars in what is now Indonesia nor in the Afrikaners’ Apartheid. There is plenty of killing in the name of Christ to go around. The outrage on the right about Obama’s entirely correct observations derives from a kind of Christian nationalism, in which Christians can do no wrong or are not responsible for the wrongs done by other Christians. The point is, that may be so, but neither are Muslims responsible for the loonier of their coreligionists. Those complaining about a “false equivalency” are just using a meaningless buzzword. Here’s a better one: what’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
Well, Obama was stupid in mentioning the past. he should have mentioned the Christian Lord's Resistance Army (LRA), in Africa that is as brutal as Boko Haram and are fighting for religious reasons. But Obama has to dumb stuff down for Americans to get a point across and that is Obama's weakness because while Clinton was good at dumbing down his points so the yokels could get his message, Obama never understood Joe Blow Americans and how to talk to them.
Absolutely!!! It may be a revelation to Americans in the conservative and religious right movement, but truth means being in accord with facts or reality, or fidelity to an original standard or ideal. It is not a complex concept to comprehend, especially for the evangelical right that embraces the Ninth Commandment of the Decalogue that forbids “bearing false witness” (lying) leading one to believe that every Christian embraces truth. In fact, the Christian religion’s namesake, Jesus Christ, is renowned for saying “the truth shall set you free” in John 8:32. The point is that all Christians should advocate and revere the truth with religious fervor; unless it is uttered by President Barack Obama at which point they “can’t handle the truth.” Although the President stated the truth during that bizarre event in a secular nation, the National Prayer Breakfast, this week, he violated that unspoken American rule that at no time will any American utter an untoward remark about the Christian religion whether it is the gospel truth or not. The fact is that in stating an irrefutable truth about Christianity, the President grossly understated the reality that throughout history, there has been much more violence and killing in the name of Christianity as in the name of Islam. The truth of the matter is that despite the recent death and violence at the hands of radical Islamists such as the Islamic State (ISIS, ISIL, or IS), it pales in comparison to the history, including very recent history, of violence wrought on humanity by Christians in the name of Christianity. The President infuriated the Christian right during the National Prayer Breakfast when he said that no particular religion “has a monopoly on violence.” His exact words were, “And lest we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place – remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ. Slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ.” Of course the President spoke the truth, albeit a grossly understated truth, but it incited the Christian right to apoplexy as if he had insulted their god almighty to his face. The tea party claimed the President “threw Christians under the bus,” dirty Rush Limbaugh said the President’s remark was “an insult to Christianity” and the Daily Caller was certain the President’s truth was a ploy to put a halt to real Americans’ well-intentioned “criticism of radical Islamists.” None of the criticism is even remotely true, because all the President did was acknowledge that in the same way ISIS uses the Muslim faith to rally followers to, and advance, its violent agenda, radical fundamentalists in the Christian faith have done exactly the same thing throughout world history to horrific effect. The President could, and should, have just uttered Jesus Christ’s words and told Christians so ardently critical of Islam that “whosoever is without sin, let him cast the first stone,” but one thing the extremist right will not countenance is President Barack Obama citing a scripture or Jesus Christ’s words from “their” precious Caucasian bible. Where the President held back in speaking “pure truth” was his reluctance to cite that “Christianist violence” was not just reserved to the Crusades and Inquisition, slavery, or Jim Crow. It has continued unabated and in nearly every instance it is just as violent as images and reports of ISIS atrocities. It is why Christians cannot possibly criticize the Muslim religion, or condemn all of its devotees, as violent monsters when their religion has been, and still is, responsible for unrivaled violence from the Old Testament to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and every era in between. It may be a hard truth to handle, but it is a historically verifiable truth nonetheless and unfortunately for the faithful, Christianity’s violence has a scriptural basis permeating the Christian bible from start to finish. It is important to note that although Jesus preached to love your neighbor, he also instructed his followers to go and “make disciples” and that whoever rejected his message was doomed to a violent death by his own hands in A Revelation 19:11-16. Besides the extreme violence under the direction of the god of the Old Testament, the Christian Crusades and Inquisitions, during the 20th Century alone, while Muslim violence claimed the lives of around 2 million people during the Iran-Iraq war and the war in Afghanistan, violence by Christians claimed the lives of close to 100 million people. These acts of religious violence include the “ World Wars, the Holocaust, the colonial wars in Southeast Asia and Africa, and the sectarian warfare in the Balkans including ‘an explicit genocide‘ against Muslim Bosnians by Serbian Orthodox Christians.” As Middle East historian Juan Cole notes, regardless the mass violence perpetrated by Christians may not have been directly in the name of Christianity, in “every conflict the combatants were overtly religious, and invoked their religion as part of their military campaigns.” This is particularly true of evangelical Christian George W. Bush’s 2003 “righteous crusade” in invading Iraq replete with “ biblical verses engraved on weapons” that claimed the lives of ov er 655,000 innocent Iraqi civilians; nearly all devotees of Islam. Many of the Islamist warriors in ISIL are fighting to reclaim their homes and place in Iraq society after Christian Bush helped drive them out of their own country; not just because of religion. But as Cole points out, “they are organized around groups that share a common religious and cultural background;” not unlike America’s military forces that invaded, conquered, and killed hundreds-of-thousands of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan under direct orders from their commander in chief; evangelical fundamentalist George W. Bush. For many Americans, the idea of a National Prayer Breakfast is abominable, but for once President Obama made the most out of a bizarre event and put Americans in the religious right and conservative movement who portray all Muslims as violence-prone monsters in the proper perspective; they are rank hypocrites. Now, it is no more truth that all Christians are violent monsters because of their religion’s incredibly violent history than devotees of the Muslim faith are due to a terrorist criminal attack on America or ISIL militants reclaiming their homes, but it was refreshing to see President Obama, a Christian adherent, utter the truth to make a very prescient point at a multi-faith religious function. Of course, one cannot possibly expect the evangelical or conservative extremists in this country to accept what they know to be true, because it is like that adage; “the truth hurts.” However, for some Americans being bombarded daily with Fox News and conservative lies that all Muslims are violent due to their religion, it is possible they will take the President’s truth to heart and acknowledge that in the same way all Christians are not violent monsters based on the faith’s precedent-setting historical violence, all followers of Islam are not members of ISIS or prone to violence. It was a truth Americans desperately needed to hear and one religious and conservative extremists can’t handle; especially because President Barack Obama had the courage to utter it in a highly religious public forum the nation’s faithful were paying attention to. From a secular humanist’s perspective, it was long overdue and a stroke of genius from a dying breed of American; a Christian humanist. http://www.politicususa.com/2015/02/07/radical-cant- handle-truth-president-obama.html.
Absolutely!!! One example is Obama pronouncing Pakistan in the correct way of "POK-istan" rather than how most Americans pronounce it as "Pak-istan" like in the Packers football team. Reminds me of Hispanic reporters that over enunciate Hispanic names or pronounce Mexico and Mehico. Obama doing it sounds pretentious to Joe Blow American ears and Obama is just not able to 'dumb' it down for them. He does not have that skill which is what I think Obama was referring to when he said he should appoint Clinton as head of "explaining stuff". If Obama used the more accurate "Lord's Resistance Army" example to show how Christian terror groups fighting for religious reasons in the modern world are also doing ISIS level depravities (as are Buddhist and Hindu terror groups until recently in Sri Lanka - the Hindu Tamils invented suicide bombers and there were cases where Sikhs blew up airplanes as well) most Americans would have scratched their heads having never heard of them. So he has to reach back to the Crusades and the Jim Crow era. That Americans kind of remember he figures.
Pericles: "Absolutely!!! If Obama used the more accurate "Lord's Resistance Army" example to show how Christian terror groups fighting for religious reasons in the modern world are also doing ISIS level depravities (as are Buddhist and Hindu terror groups until recently in Sri Lanka - the Hindu Tamils invented suicide bombers and there were cases where Sikhs blew up airplanes as well) most Americans would have scratched their heads having never heard of them. So he has to reach back to the Crusades and the Jim Crow era. That Americans kind of remember he figures". Lusifer (Satan), was the most beautiful angel in heaven, God loved him very much, maybe you Obama lackies can explain away, make excuses for the evils he has spread all over the world too, since our Father cast him out of heaven. OOPS! My bad. You already are, and doing a bang up job of it too, shoveling and spreading Obama's piles of sugar coated shite. But in the end, all you're going to be holding onto is a 'pile of Obama's/satan's Shite!~ jmho
I am still waiting for evidence Obama made America more Islamic. All I get is Obama hired Arabs in govt. Not buying the demented right wing paranoid stupidity on Obama does not mean we are defending Obama or like Obama in any way. I think Obama is a war criminal for example.
""I ask again, what Muslim agenda has Obama enacted in the USA?" The same agenda he has to destroy the white U.S. middle class. The same as his agenda to give cover to the racial pimps like Sharpton. It's the same old same old about calling a person a racist because they disagree with Obama. And more significantly naming an AG that doesn't mind breaking the rules, if not the law, to promote Obama's vision of fundamentally remaking America. It's the same agenda that leads Duke to allow the Muslim call to prayer from its Chapel tower. It's the same agenda that led to a Federal court to rule that barring Sharia law in the U.S. is unconstitutional. And on the foreign policy side, his not so veiled hatred for Israel and willingness to allow Iran to acquire nuclear capabilities. Guess what the Arab nations in the region will want when Iran goes nuke? Guess who will give it to them?" " In case you missed it. "In its latest effort to protect followers of Islam in the U.S. the Obama Justice Department warns against using social media to spread information considered inflammatory against Muslims, threatening that it could constitute a violation of civil rights." "Over the years the Obama administration has embarked on a fervent crusade to befriend Muslims by creating a variety of outreach programs at a number of key federal agencies. For instance the nation’s Homeland Security covertly met with a group of extremist Arab, Muslim and Sikh organizations to discuss national security matters and the State Department sent a controversial, anti- America Imam (Feisal Abdul Rauf) to the Middle East to foster greater understanding and outreach among Muslim majority communities. The Obama Administration has also hired a special Homeland Security adviser (Mohamed Elibiary) who openly supports a radical Islamist theologian and renowned jihadist ideologue and a special Islam envoy that condemns U.S. prosecutions of terrorists as “politically motivated persecutions” and has close ties to radical extremist groups. The president has even ordered the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) to shift its mission from space exploration to Muslim diplomacy and the government started a special service that delivers halal meals, prepared according to Islamic law, to home-bound seniors in Detroit. Who could forget Hillary Clinton’s special order allowing the reentry of two radical Islamic academics whose terrorist ties have long banned them from the U.S.?"
The same agenda he has to destroy the white U.S. middle class. So its just KKK like demagoguery? How is this any different than Bush allowing Saudis to be the only flights allowed to leave the USA after 9/11? America has been Islam's bitch since that retard Reagan armed jihadis in Afghanistan. Carter armed natives of Afghanistan but Reagan authorized the CIA to bring in jihadis from around the world. Bush, Jr supported the Clinton war on Serbia in favor of Muslims. Bush, Jr made Kosovo an independent state in Europe - another Muslim nation born in Europe. So spare me that this is proof somehow America will become Islamic - it is a foreign policy tactic for the USA to be linked to jihadis.
So its just KKK like demagoguery? I gave you nine points and all you can muster is a BS feeble response to just one? Way to go, Sparky, you sure are a persuasive devil.
I don't think he's gonna touch that one, would take more effort than the usual BS he posts.
In addition to being intellectual dishonest it appears that he is an intellectual coward as well.
Here, I shall provide all of you with a bit of comick relief:
#376. To: Pridie.Nones (#372)
He F'd with God, now he's dead. EOM There ya go.
Take me off your blasphemy ping list. Thanks.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest"I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed. That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear".
#3. To: Murron (#2)
"And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear"
#7. To: cranky (#3)
"And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear"
#10. To: Pericles (#7)
Obama's middle name is Hussein so there is that sympathy he may have for Islam
#11. To: cranky (#10)
#15. To: Pericles, cranky (#11)
Obama has not done one thing to make the USA more Islamic - if anything his policies like supporting abortion and gay rights is anti-Muslim.
#19. To: Murron, Pericles, cranky (#15)
Obama has not done one thing to make the USA more Islamic - if anything his policies like supporting abortion and gay rights is anti-Muslim. I'd love to play a few rounds of poker with you, boy(?).
#44. To: Gatlin, Pericles, cranky, All (#19)
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"if anything his policies like supporting abortion and gay rights is anti-Muslim".
#48. To: Gatlin, Pridie.Nones, Liberator, pericles, Murron, cranky, GarySpFc, Stoner, All (#44)
#67. To: SOSO, Pridie.Nones, Liberator, pericles, Murron, cranky, GarySpFc, Stoner, All (#48)
Can anyone claim that it is not the intent of Islam to impose Sharia Law as the only law around the globe? But even Mulsims know that this can't happene but in small steps.
Not I. But even Mulsims know that this can't happene but in small steps.
However, the original question was: "What Obama has done to make the USA more Islamic?"
Our POS current POTUS has contributed more than his fair of these small steps to obtaining the true Muslim goal for the planet.
#71. To: SOSO, Pridie.Nones, Liberator, pericles, Murron, cranky, GarySpFc, Stoner, All (#67)
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#89. To: Gatlin (#71)
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#133. To: Pericles, cranky, Murron, Stoner, Liberator, Pridie.Nones, Deckard, CZ82, GarySpFC, SOSO, rlk, hondo68, Vicomte13, redleghunter, sneakypete (#89)
Well, Obama was stupid in mentioning the past. he should have mentioned the Christian Lord's Resistance Army (LRA), in Africa that is as brutal as Boko Haram and are fighting for religious reasons. But Obama has to dumb stuff down for Americans to get a point across and that is Obama's weakness because while Clinton was good at dumbing down his points so the yokels could get his message, Obama never understood Joe Blow Americans and how to talk to them.
Who, Where, When, Why How and What.
Obama was not the person to say this.
Where he said it was not the right place.
When he said it was not appropriate.
Why he said it is because he believes it.
How he said it and what he said has not been challenged.
The Radical Right Can’t Handle The Truth From President Obama.
#191. To: Gatlin, cranky, Murron, Stoner, Liberator, Pridie.Nones, Deckard, CZ82, GarySpFC, SOSO, rlk, hondo68, Vicomte13, redleghunter, sneakypete (#133)
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Well, Obama was stupid in mentioning the past. he should have mentioned the Christian Lord's Resistance Army (LRA), in Africa that is as brutal as Boko Haram and are fighting for religious reasons. But Obama has to dumb stuff down for Americans to get a point across and that is Obama's weakness because while Clinton was good at dumbing down his points so the yokels could get his message, Obama never understood Joe Blow Americans and how to talk to them.
#212. To: Pericles, Gatlin, cranky, Stoner, Liberator, Pridie.Nones, Deckard, CZ82, GarySpFC, SOSO, rlk, hondo68, Vicomte13, redleghunter, sneakypete, all (#191)
gatlin: "Well Obama was stupid in mentioning the past. he should have mentioned the Christian Lord's Resistance Army (LRA), in Africa that is as brutal as Boko Haram and are fighting for religious reasons. But Obama has to dumb stuff down for Americans to get a point across and that is Obama's weakness because while Clinton was good at dumbing down his points so the yokels could get his message, Obama never understood Joe Blow Americans and how to talk to them".
#237. To: Murron, Gatlin, cranky, Stoner, Liberator, Pridie.Nones, Deckard, CZ82, GarySpFC, SOSO, rlk, hondo68, Vicomte13, redleghunter, sneakypete (#212)
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#255. To: Pericles, Murron, Gatlin, cranky, Stoner, Liberator, Pridie.Nones, Deckard, CZ82, GarySpFC, rlk, hondo68, Vicomte13, redleghunter, sneakypete (#237)
I am still waiting for evidence Obama made America more Islamic.
#259. To: SOSO, Murron, Gatlin, cranky, Stoner, Liberator, Pridie.Nones, Deckard, CZ82, GarySpFC, rlk, hondo68, Vicomte13, redleghunter, sneakypete (#255)
""I ask again, what Muslim agenda has Obama enacted in the USA?"
#306. To: Pericles, Murron, Gatlin, cranky, Stoner, Liberator, Pridie.Nones, Deckard, CZ82, GarySpFC, rlk, hondo68, Vicomte13, redleghunter, sneakypete (#259)
""I ask again, what Muslim agenda has Obama enacted in the USA?" The same agenda he has to destroy the white U.S. middle class.
#370. To: SOSO (#306)
I gave you nine points and all you can muster is a BS feeble response to just one? Way to go, Sparky, you sure are a persuasive devil.
#371. To: CZ82, Pericles, Murron, Gatlin, cranky, Stoner, Liberator, Pridie.Nones, Deckard, GarySpFC, rlk, hondo68, Vicomte13, redleghunter, sneakypete (#370)
#372. To: CZ82, Pericles, Murron, Gatlin, cranky, Stoner, Liberator, Deckard, GarySpFC, rlk, hondo68, Vicomte13, redleghunter, sneakypete (#371)
Replies to Comment # 372. George Carlin
#396. To: Pridie.Nones (#372)
End Trace Mode for Comment # 372.
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