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Title: Obama Rips Bible, Praises Koran
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Published: Feb 7, 2015
Author: Ben Shapiro
Post Date: 2015-02-07 06:32:22 by cranky
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Unless we get on our high horse and think that this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ. In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ. So it is not unique to one group or one religion. There is a tendency in us, a simple tendency that can pervert and distort our faith. This is historically and philosophically illiterate. Historically speaking, the Crusades were a response to Islamic aggression in Europe and the Middle East; the Inquisition, as Jonah Goldberg points out while quoting historian Thomas Madden, director of the Center for Medieval and Renaissance Studies at Saint Louis University, was designed to regularize executions rather than leaving them to the will of the masses. Christians undoubtedly pursued horrible brutalities against people, including innocent Jews. However, as Goldberg points out, “Christianity, even in its most terrible days, even under the most corrupt popes, even during the most unjustifiable wars, was indisputably a force for the improvement of man.” Nowhere is that clearer than in Obama’s second example, slavery. Virtually all of the most ardent abolitionists were deeply religious Christians. Hundreds of thousands of American men marched to their deaths singing “The Battle Hymn of the Republic”: “In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea / With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me / As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free / While God is marching on.” That was 150 years ago. It’s not exactly the modern Islamic slogan, “Death to the Jews.” Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr., was, as his name suggests, a reverend. He quoted old black Christian spirituals and the Biblical story of the exodus from Egypt. Christians obliterated slavery. Christians obliterated Jim Crow. Modern slavery is largely perpetrated by Muslims. Modern Jim Crow is certainly perpetrated by Muslims under shariah law. There is a larger point, here, too: President Obama’s foolish argument suggests that because Christians were brutal a millennium ago, they should shut up about brutalities today. This is somewhat like saying that because someone’s great-great-grandfather held slaves in rural Alabama, that person should shut up about human trafficking in 2015. It’s asinine. But Obama has a history of insulting Christianity and Judaism while upholding Islam. In 2006, Obama bashed the Bible and religious Christians and Jews in particular: Which passages of Scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is ok and that eating shellfish is abomination? How about Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith? Or should we just stick to the Sermon on the Mount – a passage that is so radical that it’s doubtful that our own Defense Department would survive its application? So before we get carried away, let’s read our bibles. Folks haven’t been reading their bibles. He then concluded that religious leaders should not speak out against publicly-funded contraception or gay marriage. We can get into President Obama’s pathetic Biblical commentary here – his interpretation of Leviticus on slavery is incorrect, Jews still avoid shellfish, the Talmud explains that no child has ever been stoned for rebelliousness, and the Sermon on the Mount is not a pacifist document. Obama’s not Biblically literate – he’s the same fellow who says, “I think the good book says don’t throw stones in glass houses.” He said in The Audacity of Hope that he would define Biblical values however he chose, stating that he is not willing “to accept a reading of the Bible that considers an obscure line in Romans to be more defining of Christianity than the Sermon on the Mount.” Both are, in fact, parts of the Bible. Citing the Sermon on the Mount to justify civil unions for homosexuals, as Obama has done, is not in fact Biblical. But more importantly, Obama’s scorn for the old-fashioned Bible is obvious. That became more obvious in 2008, when Obama told some of his buddies in San Francisco that unemployed idiots “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” The Obama administration has routinely attacked religious organizations and people who violate Obama’s personal political predilections. They’ve attacked all trappings of Christianity as well. Whether they’re using Obamacare to force religious individuals to pay for others’ contraception or toning down the National Day of Prayer instead of holding a public ceremony, whether they’re covering a monogram of Jesus at Georgetown University during a presidential speech or objecting to adding FDR’s D-Day prayer to the WWII memorial, the Obama administration clearly isn’t fond of Christianity. This contrasts strongly with President Obama’s romantic vision of Islam. He famously called the Muslim call to prayer “the sweetest sound I know.” He said in his first presidential interview, with Al-Arabiya, that his job was “to communicate to the American people that the Muslim world is filled with extraordinary people who simply want to live their lives and see their children live better lives.” Weeks later, he said in Turkey, “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.” A few months later, in a speech in Cairo to which he invited the Muslim Brotherhood, Obama said: I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed. That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear. He added that Islam has a “proud tradition of tolerance,” explained, ‘Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace,” and said, “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.” He said in his Ramadan message in 2009 that Islam has played a key “role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.” ISIS, Obama has said over and over again, is not Islamic. His administration maintains that America is not at war with radical Islam. He stated before the United Nations in 2012, just weeks after the murder of four Americans in Benghazi, Libya at the hands of Muslim terrorists, “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.” Hillary Clinton allegedly promised Charles Woods, father of one of the slain in Benghazi, that the administration would achieve the arrest of the YouTube filmmaker behind The Innocence of Muslims. The State Department issued taxpayer-funded commercials denouncing that YouTube video. President Obama variously called the video “crude and disgusting” and stated that “its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity.” At the UN in 2014, Obama lauded a Muslim cleric who backs Hamas. And, of course, Obama uses Islamic theology to promote his vision of world peace: All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer. All three religions do have access to holy sites now, in Jewish-run Jerusalem. They did not when Muslims ruled Jerusalem. But facts have no bearing in the fantasy world of the president. Perhaps one final contrast tells the tale. In 2012, according to the Washington Post. “U.S. troops tried to burn about 500 copies of the Koran as part of a badly bungled security sweep at an Afghan prison in February.” Two American soldiers were shot in the aftermath. This prompted President Obama to apologize profusely to Afghan President Hamid Karzai, writing him a letter stating, “We will take the appropriate steps to avoid any recurrence, including holding accountable those responsible.” Three years earlier, members of the military burned Bibles printed in Pashto and Dari. CNN reported that they had been discarded “amid concern they would be used to try to convert Afghans.” The Bibles were burned rather than sent back to their source organization because the military worried they might be re-sent to another outlet in Afghanistan. There was no apology to the church that printed the Bibles, or to Christians more broadly. Sure, radical Muslims around the world, supported by millions of their compatriots and friendly governments, are murdering innocents. But it’s Christian aggression that forces Muslims to burn other Muslims alive in Muslim countries.
On Thursday, at the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington, D.C., President Obama blithely informed his audience that Christians ought not get on their “high horse” about the problem of radical Islam:
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#235. To: Pericles, GarySpFC (#231)
Pericles: Was not our Founding Father. Gary is a little daffy at times.
God healed me and saved my life. Luck? No. Miracle. A belief system predicated on luck cannot explain true miracles. I went to the grave of a saint and prayed for my back to heal - minor slipped disk kind of injury. Nothing happened. It was injured on t he trip to Europe. I endured for a month in pain. Went back to the States a doctor said it was pretty bad might need surgery and physical therapy. I was given some anti inflammatories and made an appointment for the following month. Within days of that my pain and injury went away. I went to the doctor he did an X-Ray and said in a paraphrase of his own words "It was miraculous and he had never seen similar injury heal up so fast on its own". So despite my doubts I was granted mercy and healed.
I am still waiting for evidence Obama made America more Islamic. All I get is Obama hired Arabs in govt. Not buying the demented right wing paranoid stupidity on Obama does not mean we are defending Obama or like Obama in any way. I think Obama is a war criminal for example.
No problem at all. The issue is the rapid rise of Muslim populations in America within a short amount of time:
There is one variable: as I was on my back, paralyzed, my nose filling up with water, I asked: "Please". And then I was healed. I stood up. I told nobody. Then there were two separate occasions: little animals that were quite dead held in my hands. And I said "Father, you can do anything. Please." And he did. Both times. The animals came back to life. Luck? No miracle. Then there is the Shroud of Turin. The image on it is on both faces. It is formed by Maillard Reactions. It is not painted on. It is not of human artifice. We cannot control Maillard Reactions with precision today, let alone back then. It is a chaotic process. The image cannot exist, not with that exquisite level of detail, even of inorganic matters (the lettering of the coins is transmitted also). It can't exist, but it does. A tangible, physical miracle that has been scrutinized by forensic scientists. Luck cannot paint the Mona Lisa. Random processes cannot sculpt the Statue of Liberty. But human hands cannot today make the image on the Shroud, and never could: it exceeds our capacity to control nature. But there it is. A true miracle. And look at WHO it is. There is the face of the God who controls your "luck". Res ipsa loquitur.
Even within your belief system, there is a real god. Your god is the laws of nature themselves, including the law of entropy, of randomness, which gives rise to luck. That is your god. You believe that the laws of nature apply everywhere: they are omnipresent. You believe that the laws of physics apply to every speck of matter and energy: they are omnipotent. You believe that these laws of nature have always applied: they are eternal. So, you have an omnipotent, omnipresent, eternal god. The only difference between you and the Christians or Muslims or Jews is that you do not think that nature is omniscient. Your god is natural law, which is all powerful but mindless. And that may be so…except that it's obviously not COMPLETELY mindless: you and I are speaking intelligently, and we are in no way external to nature. Nature is thinking about itself in our very conversation, and in all other exchanges of information. So, you must admit the existence of intelligence, of "science" within this omnipotent, omnipresent and eternal nature governed by its laws. You simply doubt that there is ultimately an intelligence driving it and making natural law BE law. You would have to allow that intelligence - science, currently limited - could EVOLVE within your system to be omniscient, given enough time. There's nothing in the natural law that prohibits that. And if there is enough dark matter to close the circle and cause a gravitational Big Crunch to succeed the Big Bang, it is possible that sufficient time will have run for the evolved intelligence to imprint its opinions, its laws, upon the matter and energy such that they follow its directives in the Big Bang that succeeds the Big Crunch. And VOILA! Natural law, following a Hindu cycle of cycles. Now it's just a matter of finding enough gravity to close the system, and you not only know WHAT, but you know WHY and WHO.
They see miracles, but they refuse to accept them as miracles. Reminds me of the people who opposed Galileo on the thought that the world revolves about the Sun. One can look at Jupiter and see the moons and see how it happens, but still refuse to accept the obvious out of stubbornness and cant of mind. Likewise one can look at obvious miracles again and again, and simply refuse to accept that they are miracles, because if one accepts that, one will have to change one's mind about something on which one has closed it. The good news is that the doctors and everybody else eventually do get the answer.
Man, not only are you windy but also revealing in your lack of capability to discern relevent questioning: Yup, just as I suspected: Begging for a little "luck" directed towards a higher power because of your own lack of self-responsibility. Nice belief system, there. Of course. You were embarrassed about your own shenanigans towards your own self. Are you a vetenarian to determine with absolute accuracy your whimsical observations? From being a medical doctor, you are now a professional physicist with certifications to make your opinions worthy of merit. Very cool. As I said earlier, you have a belief system. Nothing more or less. There are no miracles unless you believe in them. Since you are no young lad, your beliefs are like the tooth-fairy, the Great Pumpkin, Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. Sometimes you win the luck of the draw, sometimes you don't.
We had best define the word miracle. A miracle is not luck. A miracle is something that cannot happen because it breaks the known laws of physics. Winning the lottery is really good luck. Spreading ones arms and flying, or walking on water, or rising from the dead - these things are not luck, because the probability of such things happening is zero: the laws of physics prevent them from happening at all. If they happen anyway, and people see it, there is one of two possible explanations: (1) fraud. Magicians apparently do impossible things all the time, but it's all mirrors and sleight of hand, or (2) True Miracle: the laws of physics have been nullified by an act of will. When bodies die, they rot. They might dry and mummify, but that, too is decay. So, if somebody dies, and does NOT rot or mummify or otherwise decay, does not enter rigor mortis - this would mean that the bacteria within the body and in the air also simply cease to function in contact with that body. And that is not possible by natural law. And yet there ARE people who died centuries ago but did not decay, or rot, or mummify. They are the Incorrupt, and they're all Catholic saints. If this were a RANDOM process, a matter of LUCK, they would not all be Catholic saints. Indeed, when the opened the graves of Paris and moved 16 million bodies into the Paris catacombs during the Revolutionary period, they would have found incorrupt bodies in some of those graves. Nope. All decayed. But there are the Incorrupt, undecided, dozens of them, all saints. To claim "luck" for that would be absurd. That's pretty selective, and persistent suspension of the laws of physics just for the most holy of ONE religion. The other claim would then be FRAUD. The problem with a fraud claim is that mankind doesn't have any means of making bodies not rot. We can embalm using modern techniques: the bodies still rot. We can mummify. The bodies then are mummies. The Incorrupt aren't frauds, because we can't MAKE frauds like that even if we want to. It vastly exceeds our technology. But there they are, accumulating in number over the ages. Dead people who look like they're sleeping. Some eventually decay. Eventually. Others don't. How? Miracle, obviously. No other explanation works. Luck doesn't. Fraud doesn't. What does that leave? Miracle. And look who the miracles all center around. Once again, we see the hand of God being exclusive in this form of "luck".
Served to you while it's still steaming for your instantaneous gratification...since it is obvious from your stalking that you cannot get enough. Bon Appetit!!!
I've worked as a veterinary tech in two veterinary hospitals. I know what dead is. And in these two cases, the animals were not a little dead. They were very dead. it would have been obvious to you too.
There was no "hand of God" about your screw up in life. Get over it. You made mistakes and are "lucky" for no other reason but by sheer happen-stance random events.
OMG! This is a miracle!
And the earth does not revolve around the Sun unless you believe it does.
I find your post completly unacceptable: morbid and unbelievable. You are an outright sociopathic liar or a drug crazed lunatic. You pick your preferences, it means nothing to me.
Ridiculous! Spinal cords don't fuse by luck. They don't fuse at all. You snap it, you're paralyzed. The beauty of our argument here is that of course it is impossible for ME to persuade you, as I cannot perform miracles for you on demand. But you will die, and then you will find yourself alive, and in your life review you will encounter this very discussion, and all others. You will relive this discussion again one day, in the course of a miracle. And in that moment…you certainly won't be worrying about ME or about the content of this discussion, but dealing with the reality of the situation and your position in it. Until that day, I guess there's not much more for us to discuss on this topic. Your mind is made up that miracles don't exist and God doesn't exist. I have experienced miracles and talked to God and seen many things. I've shown you physical artifacts that, if you take the time to go study your physics and biochemistry and really look at them, you will discover are true miracles: they break the laws of physics and they cannot exist. And I've answered your assertion about "luck" by pointing you to miracles that have no Muslim or Hindu or Animist counterpart. They are all Christian. In fact, they're almost all Catholic/Orthodox. (There is one Lutheran incorrupt). You can look at a 100 things that all break the laws of physics and say they're all luck, and then you can look at the fact that they only happen to Catholics and say "luck piled on luck". But the coincidence would shake even your confidence, if you looked at it. You won't, so all there's left is a shoulder shrug. There are none so blind as they who refuse to see. And that's all there is to say about this with you on this thread. You'll see it all someday and you'll know I was telling you the truth. And I'll have to be content with that. Good luck.
Lying is a sin in my religion. Every word I have told you is true. Every word of it. You are confronted with a fact set that you reject because it is against your own religion. Therefore, you vilify the messenger. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. And the day will come when you stand next to a God you don't believe in and review this very thing, and will know you are wrong - wrong in the rejection, wrong in the accusation, wrong in the closing of your eyes. But, since you find the discussion distressing, this is a good time to end it. Good Luck.
Probably within your own professional veterinarian's hands or, as you say ... move your job hat to your professional physicist hands. But you won't revive me. You shall relish in your own mind the day you elicted some sort of personal power about mircles for some little creature.
No problem at all. The issue is the rapid rise of Muslim populations in America within a short amount of time: I recall this fear going back to the Clinton era where Jews were afraid that Muslims will equal the number of Jews in the USA and surpass them. Most Muslim rise in the USA is from birth rates not immigration.
STATS, please. Support your opinion with meaningful stats.
""I ask again, what Muslim agenda has Obama enacted in the USA?" The same agenda he has to destroy the white U.S. middle class. The same as his agenda to give cover to the racial pimps like Sharpton. It's the same old same old about calling a person a racist because they disagree with Obama. And more significantly naming an AG that doesn't mind breaking the rules, if not the law, to promote Obama's vision of fundamentally remaking America. It's the same agenda that leads Duke to allow the Muslim call to prayer from its Chapel tower. It's the same agenda that led to a Federal court to rule that barring Sharia law in the U.S. is unconstitutional. And on the foreign policy side, his not so veiled hatred for Israel and willingness to allow Iran to acquire nuclear capabilities. Guess what the Arab nations in the region will want when Iran goes nuke? Guess who will give it to them?" " In case you missed it. "In its latest effort to protect followers of Islam in the U.S. the Obama Justice Department warns against using social media to spread information considered inflammatory against Muslims, threatening that it could constitute a violation of civil rights." "Over the years the Obama administration has embarked on a fervent crusade to befriend Muslims by creating a variety of outreach programs at a number of key federal agencies. For instance the nation’s Homeland Security covertly met with a group of extremist Arab, Muslim and Sikh organizations to discuss national security matters and the State Department sent a controversial, anti- America Imam (Feisal Abdul Rauf) to the Middle East to foster greater understanding and outreach among Muslim majority communities. The Obama Administration has also hired a special Homeland Security adviser (Mohamed Elibiary) who openly supports a radical Islamist theologian and renowned jihadist ideologue and a special Islam envoy that condemns U.S. prosecutions of terrorists as “politically motivated persecutions” and has close ties to radical extremist groups. The president has even ordered the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) to shift its mission from space exploration to Muslim diplomacy and the government started a special service that delivers halal meals, prepared according to Islamic law, to home-bound seniors in Detroit. Who could forget Hillary Clinton’s special order allowing the reentry of two radical Islamic academics whose terrorist ties have long banned them from the U.S.?"
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
The immigration law is still the same so any future growth will be in the fact Muslims have more children than other religions - sort of like how Hasidic Jews have increased not from immigration but from population growth though immigration and conversions play a factor as well.
I hope you don't think that is some kind of revelation do you?
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
According to those who are close to him and have been captured by him he is.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
The same agenda he has to destroy the white U.S. middle class. So its just KKK like demagoguery? How is this any different than Bush allowing Saudis to be the only flights allowed to leave the USA after 9/11? America has been Islam's bitch since that retard Reagan armed jihadis in Afghanistan. Carter armed natives of Afghanistan but Reagan authorized the CIA to bring in jihadis from around the world. Bush, Jr supported the Clinton war on Serbia in favor of Muslims. Bush, Jr made Kosovo an independent state in Europe - another Muslim nation born in Europe. So spare me that this is proof somehow America will become Islamic - it is a foreign policy tactic for the USA to be linked to jihadis.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/Vox-News/2012/0309/Why-did-Rush- Limbaugh-defend-Joseph-Kony-and-Lord-s-Resistance-Army-video Why did Rush Limbaugh defend Joseph Kony and Lord's Resistance Army (+video)? Rush Limbaugh criticized Obama last October for sending US troops to kill Joseph Kony's 'Christian' fighters. When apprised by listeners of the LRA's record, he expressed surprise. Last October, Rush Limbaugh on his radio show defended Joseph Kony’s Lord’s Resistance Army, the Uganda guerilla group that is now infamous around the world thanks to a viral video from the Invisible Children organization that has exposed Kony’s cruel and murderous ways. Why in the world would Limbaugh do that? One reason is that he was not so much promoting the LRA as questioning the Obama administration’s decision to send 100 elite US troops to the area to help quell fighting. “Lord’s Resistance Army are Christians. They are fighting the Muslims in Sudan. And Obama has sent troops, United States troops to remove them from the battlefield, which means kill them,” Limbaugh said last Oct. 14, according to a show transcript.
You sure are being nice to him, kinda makes me wonder if you don't know him. Or are you going to stick with the story it's Izzy?
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Jefferson was respected in his day, but his belief system was not.
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
Nonsense! Total nonsense!
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
I am leaning towards "Bucky" fight now...Izzy has never displayed such intelligence, that caused me to pretty much rule him out.
That's Pantheism, which is just another form of atheism. In reality your god manifests himself in a mirror.
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
You misunderstand me completely. I can't revive anybody. If I could, and you died and I knew about it, I would. I would, and after that you would know and you would become an ally of God forever. I don't relish in the raising of those animals. I recount those stories because they are the TRUTH, and they were part of the in-my-face PROOF to me that God IS, the things that leave ME with no mental dodge, because I know. Hearing voices? I could be crazy. Seeing things? I could be crazy. Dead animals rising? That's not crazy. There it is. It's a fact, part of a fact pattern that I can't deny. The external miracles, Shroud and Incorrupt and Lanciano - they confirm to ANYBODY these things are so. What happened was a MIRACLE. That was the point: MIRACLES happen. Laws of physics are broken by a overarching mind that rules nature too. The point of studying them is to see it, to know it, and to bend the neck and the knee to reality. I'm not a Catholic because I LIKE it. I don't, actually. There's plenty that I'd prefer not be so. I'm a Catholic because it's TRUE.
I have to disagree with you on this. I myself was a scientific pantheist until God grabbed my face. Pantheism is the belief that Nature is God. The physicist would express it that the laws of nature are God. It isn't atheism, at least my form of it wasn't. Atheism is the belief that there is no god at all. Pantheism is a form of paganism.
Prove it! Quite frankly if there is no God it follows good and evil are only relative terms. If there is no God, then a man shouldn't care if his mother is chased down the street like a bitch in heat by a pack of men or dogs. You really have no basis whatsoever for your morality.
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
Was not our Founding Father. So? He was well known and studied by them. There wasn't a lawyer in the Colonies and later in the States who didn't have a copy of Blackstone on their desk.
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
It is all perspective - I consider Islam a form of early protestant Christianity.
Perhaps the other major reason Limbaugh made this faux pas was that he was just talking too fast about stuff of which he knew little. Today over 50 million people have seen the Invisible Children video, which documents such LRA abuses as its kidnapping of children for use as soldiers. But Limbaugh’s discussion of the group occurred long before it became so well known. In fact, as his broadcast progressed last October, Limbaugh obviously began receiving reports from listeners of the LRA’s real nature. Near the end of the show he said, “Is that right? The Lord’s Resistance Army is being accused of really bad stuff? ... Well, we just found out about this today. We’re gonna do, of course, our due diligence research on it. But nevertheless we got a hundred troops being sent over there to fight these guys – and they claim to be Christians.” At the time, the broadcast created an uproar among those who knew of the LRA’s actions. The next day conservative Sen. James Inhofe (R) of Oklahoma went on the Senate floor to set the record straight, noting that Joseph Kony was in no way a Christian, and that he had been disavowed by the Ugandan Catholic Church". The CSM also said the above. BTA Sudan is backing Kony and Sudan is 97% Muslim. Hmmmmmmmmm.......
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
I seem to remember somebody trying to con me by claiming they were Bucky, you remember that?
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
GarySpFC: Prove it! Quite frankly if there is no God it follows good and evil are only relative terms. If there is no God, then a man shouldn't care if his mother is chased down the street like a bitch in heat by a pack of men or dogs. You really have no basis whatsoever for your morality. Gary, I hate to break my perspective to you but you can not second guess GOD. God is a mystery. The creation of all about us is a mystery. There is not much more than that perspective at this time in mankind's quest for knowledge to understand himself and the world around himself.
What piece of garbage?
"For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. " (Romans 1:16-17)
Pantheism identifies the universe with God, but their God is "not a personal being", who involves Himself in the affairs of men. Deism admits there is a personal being, however he no longer has a relationship with man. Both are forms of atheism, and especially the former.
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
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#236. To: Vicomte13, Pridie.Nones (#216)
When I was a boy I dove headlong into a shallow lake and broke my neck and was paralyzed.
#237. To: Murron, Gatlin, cranky, Stoner, Liberator, Pridie.Nones, Deckard, CZ82, GarySpFC, SOSO, rlk, hondo68, Vicomte13, redleghunter, sneakypete (#212)
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#238. To: Pericles (#237)
I am still waiting for evidence Obama made America more Islamic. All I get is Obama hired Arabs in govt.
#239. To: Pridie.Nones (#217)
It was "luck" that you survived and it was also "luck" that your health was restored. There are no controlled variables about your circumstances that show "God" or any "miracle" other than your belief.
#240. To: Pridie.Nones (#230)
It is impressive to view these fragmented systems because at the end of the day, there is no real god; there are only beliefs about a REAL GOD.
#241. To: Murron (#227)
They are witnesses to miracles everyday, yet some still believe there is no God...go figure~ jmho
#242. To: Vicomte13 (#239)
There is one variable: as I was on my back, paralyzed, my nose filling up with water, I asked: "Please".
And then I was healed. I stood up. I told nobody.
Then there were two separate occasions: little animals that were quite dead held in my hands. And I said "Father, you can do anything. Please." And he did. Both times. The animals came back to life. Luck? No miracle.
Then there is the Shroud of Turin. The image on it is on both faces. It is formed by Maillard Reactions. It is not painted on. It is not of human artifice. We cannot control Maillard Reactions with precision today, let alone back then. It is a chaotic process.
The image cannot exist, not with that exquisite level of detail, even of inorganic matters (the lettering of the coins is transmitted also). It can't exist, but it does. A tangible, physical miracle that has been scrutinized by forensic scientists.
Luck cannot paint the Mona Lisa. Random processes cannot sculpt the Statue of Liberty. But human hands cannot today make the image on the Shroud, and never could: it exceeds our capacity to control nature. But there it is. A true miracle. And look at WHO it is. There is the face of the God who controls your "luck". Res ipsa loquitur.
#243. To: Pridie.Nones (#223)
Vicomte13's personal experiences are nothing more than some good "luck." There was no intervention by a "god" to suggest that such a magnificient and spectacular event like that happened is pure bull shit.
#244. To: Pridie.Nones (#225)
He has only one projected image: more bull shit.
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#245. To: Pridie.Nones (#242)
Are you a vetenarian to determine with absolute accuracy your whimsical observations?
#246. To: Vicomte13 (#243)
#247. To: Gatlin (#244)
#248. To: Pridie.Nones (#242)
There are no miracles unless you believe in them.
#249. To: Vicomte13 (#245)
#250. To: Pridie.Nones (#246)
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here was no "hand of God" about your screw up in life. Get over it. You made mistakes and are "lucky" for no other reason but by sheer happen-stance random events.
#251. To: Pridie.Nones (#249)
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I find your post completly unacceptable: morbid and unbelievable. You are an outright sociopathic liar or a drug crazed lunatic. You pick your preferences, it means nothing to me.
#252. To: Vicomte13 (#250)
But you will die, and then you will find yourself alive, and in your life review you will encounter this very discussion, and all others.
#253. To: Pridie.Nones (#238)
I am still waiting for evidence Obama made America more Islamic. All I get is Obama hired Arabs in govt.
#254. To: Pericles (#253)
#255. To: Pericles, Murron, Gatlin, cranky, Stoner, Liberator, Pridie.Nones, Deckard, CZ82, GarySpFC, rlk, hondo68, Vicomte13, redleghunter, sneakypete (#237)
I am still waiting for evidence Obama made America more Islamic.
#256. To: Pridie.Nones (#254)
STATS, please. Support your opinion with meaningful stats.
#257. To: Pericles (#233)
#258. To: Pericles (#234)
#259. To: SOSO, Murron, Gatlin, cranky, Stoner, Liberator, Pridie.Nones, Deckard, CZ82, GarySpFC, rlk, hondo68, Vicomte13, redleghunter, sneakypete (#255)
""I ask again, what Muslim agenda has Obama enacted in the USA?"
#260. To: CZ82 (#258)
#261. To: Gatlin (#244)
#262. To: Pericles (#190)
Thomas Jefferson thinks otherwise and his thinking and that of his contemporaries was what held sway. You argue the point for someone who Jefferson was against because of modern American Fundie attempts to hold onto their modern myths of Protestant Fundie America's origins.
#263. To: Pericles (#192)
Obama has killed more terrorist with drones than even Bush while depriving the terrorists of easy to target Americans on the ground.
#264. To: CZ82 (#261)
Or are you going to stick with the story it's Izzy?
#265. To: Pridie.Nones (#207)
There is no "god" as "god" is everything around us; however, there are great gods and those great gods are meaningful as they helped in some way promote the survival of someone.
#266. To: Pridie.Nones (#252)
But you won't revive me. You shall relish in your own mind the day you elicted some sort of personal power about mircles for some little creature.
#267. To: GarySpFC (#265)
That's Pantheism, which is just another form of atheism. In reality your god manifests himself in a mirror.
#268. To: Pridie.Nones (#230)
there is no real god; there are only beliefs about a REAL GOD.
#269. To: Pericles (#231)
Sir William Blackstone
#270. To: Vicomte13, GarySpFC (#267)
Pantheism is a form of paganism.
#271. To: Pericles (#260)
"What Limbaugh did not say was that the list of LRA objectives appeared to have come straight off Wikipedia, according to a contemporaneous New York Times account. Nor did Limbaugh mention that for years the group had been widely accused of torture, murder, looting, and wanton destruction.
#272. To: Gatlin (#264)
#273. To: GarySpFC (#268)
Pridie.Nones: "... there is no real god; there are only beliefs about a REAL GOD."
#274. To: Pridie.Nones (#205)
#275. To: Vicomte13 (#267)
It isn't atheism, at least my form of it wasn't. Atheism is the belief that there is no god at all.
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