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Title: Obama Rips Bible, Praises Koran
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URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/national-s ... bama-rips-bible-praises-koran/
Published: Feb 7, 2015
Author: Ben Shapiro
Post Date: 2015-02-07 06:32:22 by cranky
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Unless we get on our high horse and think that this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ. In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ. So it is not unique to one group or one religion. There is a tendency in us, a simple tendency that can pervert and distort our faith. This is historically and philosophically illiterate. Historically speaking, the Crusades were a response to Islamic aggression in Europe and the Middle East; the Inquisition, as Jonah Goldberg points out while quoting historian Thomas Madden, director of the Center for Medieval and Renaissance Studies at Saint Louis University, was designed to regularize executions rather than leaving them to the will of the masses. Christians undoubtedly pursued horrible brutalities against people, including innocent Jews. However, as Goldberg points out, “Christianity, even in its most terrible days, even under the most corrupt popes, even during the most unjustifiable wars, was indisputably a force for the improvement of man.” Nowhere is that clearer than in Obama’s second example, slavery. Virtually all of the most ardent abolitionists were deeply religious Christians. Hundreds of thousands of American men marched to their deaths singing “The Battle Hymn of the Republic”: “In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea / With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me / As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free / While God is marching on.” That was 150 years ago. It’s not exactly the modern Islamic slogan, “Death to the Jews.” Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr., was, as his name suggests, a reverend. He quoted old black Christian spirituals and the Biblical story of the exodus from Egypt. Christians obliterated slavery. Christians obliterated Jim Crow. Modern slavery is largely perpetrated by Muslims. Modern Jim Crow is certainly perpetrated by Muslims under shariah law. There is a larger point, here, too: President Obama’s foolish argument suggests that because Christians were brutal a millennium ago, they should shut up about brutalities today. This is somewhat like saying that because someone’s great-great-grandfather held slaves in rural Alabama, that person should shut up about human trafficking in 2015. It’s asinine. But Obama has a history of insulting Christianity and Judaism while upholding Islam. In 2006, Obama bashed the Bible and religious Christians and Jews in particular: Which passages of Scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is ok and that eating shellfish is abomination? How about Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith? Or should we just stick to the Sermon on the Mount – a passage that is so radical that it’s doubtful that our own Defense Department would survive its application? So before we get carried away, let’s read our bibles. Folks haven’t been reading their bibles. He then concluded that religious leaders should not speak out against publicly-funded contraception or gay marriage. We can get into President Obama’s pathetic Biblical commentary here – his interpretation of Leviticus on slavery is incorrect, Jews still avoid shellfish, the Talmud explains that no child has ever been stoned for rebelliousness, and the Sermon on the Mount is not a pacifist document. Obama’s not Biblically literate – he’s the same fellow who says, “I think the good book says don’t throw stones in glass houses.” He said in The Audacity of Hope that he would define Biblical values however he chose, stating that he is not willing “to accept a reading of the Bible that considers an obscure line in Romans to be more defining of Christianity than the Sermon on the Mount.” Both are, in fact, parts of the Bible. Citing the Sermon on the Mount to justify civil unions for homosexuals, as Obama has done, is not in fact Biblical. But more importantly, Obama’s scorn for the old-fashioned Bible is obvious. That became more obvious in 2008, when Obama told some of his buddies in San Francisco that unemployed idiots “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” The Obama administration has routinely attacked religious organizations and people who violate Obama’s personal political predilections. They’ve attacked all trappings of Christianity as well. Whether they’re using Obamacare to force religious individuals to pay for others’ contraception or toning down the National Day of Prayer instead of holding a public ceremony, whether they’re covering a monogram of Jesus at Georgetown University during a presidential speech or objecting to adding FDR’s D-Day prayer to the WWII memorial, the Obama administration clearly isn’t fond of Christianity. This contrasts strongly with President Obama’s romantic vision of Islam. He famously called the Muslim call to prayer “the sweetest sound I know.” He said in his first presidential interview, with Al-Arabiya, that his job was “to communicate to the American people that the Muslim world is filled with extraordinary people who simply want to live their lives and see their children live better lives.” Weeks later, he said in Turkey, “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.” A few months later, in a speech in Cairo to which he invited the Muslim Brotherhood, Obama said: I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed. That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear. He added that Islam has a “proud tradition of tolerance,” explained, ‘Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace,” and said, “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.” He said in his Ramadan message in 2009 that Islam has played a key “role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.” ISIS, Obama has said over and over again, is not Islamic. His administration maintains that America is not at war with radical Islam. He stated before the United Nations in 2012, just weeks after the murder of four Americans in Benghazi, Libya at the hands of Muslim terrorists, “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.” Hillary Clinton allegedly promised Charles Woods, father of one of the slain in Benghazi, that the administration would achieve the arrest of the YouTube filmmaker behind The Innocence of Muslims. The State Department issued taxpayer-funded commercials denouncing that YouTube video. President Obama variously called the video “crude and disgusting” and stated that “its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity.” At the UN in 2014, Obama lauded a Muslim cleric who backs Hamas. And, of course, Obama uses Islamic theology to promote his vision of world peace: All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer. All three religions do have access to holy sites now, in Jewish-run Jerusalem. They did not when Muslims ruled Jerusalem. But facts have no bearing in the fantasy world of the president. Perhaps one final contrast tells the tale. In 2012, according to the Washington Post. “U.S. troops tried to burn about 500 copies of the Koran as part of a badly bungled security sweep at an Afghan prison in February.” Two American soldiers were shot in the aftermath. This prompted President Obama to apologize profusely to Afghan President Hamid Karzai, writing him a letter stating, “We will take the appropriate steps to avoid any recurrence, including holding accountable those responsible.” Three years earlier, members of the military burned Bibles printed in Pashto and Dari. CNN reported that they had been discarded “amid concern they would be used to try to convert Afghans.” The Bibles were burned rather than sent back to their source organization because the military worried they might be re-sent to another outlet in Afghanistan. There was no apology to the church that printed the Bibles, or to Christians more broadly. Sure, radical Muslims around the world, supported by millions of their compatriots and friendly governments, are murdering innocents. But it’s Christian aggression that forces Muslims to burn other Muslims alive in Muslim countries.
On Thursday, at the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington, D.C., President Obama blithely informed his audience that Christians ought not get on their “high horse” about the problem of radical Islam:
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#97. To: cranky (#3)
Yes. That is the strangly absurd meme that's been promoted. Has anybody ever been able to discern an iota of documentation from the Kenyan's writings or evidence that supports "constitutional scholar"? Maybe Brian Williams has seen it.
They are silly, spineless, docile idiots that vote for the same thing everytime. Perhaps they are rationally apathetic. There are only so many things that people can worry about, and sensible people focus on those things they can change. Large numbers of Americans have observed over their lifetimes that the parties rotate, leaders come and go, but the song remains the same. Therefore, they have rationally concluded that the political system is broken, corrupt and a waste of time to engage with. In this, they may well be right. From their perspective, those people who take the time to become politically active, who study the issues and become passionate about things they cannot change, and who then become whipped into a frenzy of emotion over the outcome of rigged elections - those people are the fools. The ones who don't waste their time studying politics because they know that it's as real as Professional Wrestling: far from being silly, may be the wisest of all.
One can believe the truth or believe a lie. There is more at stake in this than what appears on the surface, because once a man chooses to believe a lie he has departed from reality. He thinks he can contain the lie in a dark corner of his mind, but in reality it infects the totality of his being.
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
Where? Will you be performing next at the Big Top? (Don't forget your clown shoes) You're welcome, Hambone. But then you should thank A K A Stone for lending you a temporary platform from which to launch/spam your propaganda, red herrings and strawmen. (you get 2 red stars for your work here thus far. And a cookie.)
Yes. He has written at least one document that you should be able to identify: It is admired by all scholars and US Constitional lawers and governance as a whole.
By Christ Jesus: Matthew 25: 32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
"For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. " (Romans 1:16-17)
LOL. THAT is precious. Thought the above line from the forum-spamming Carnival Barker ought to be isolated -- just for further S&G.
I am curious about your intent of the above post that I quote. Are you saying that "belief" is tied to "reality?" If so, how do you explain "animism" and the perpetual belief systems thereof? What about "luck" at a casino in Las Vegas?
(BOGUS BC) HA! Well then -- that's enough "scholarship" for me. Make 'em the Chief Justice of SCOTUS. Or Generalissimo. OR Burger KING.
Thanks. Another portion of world history Obola has no clue of.
"For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. " (Romans 1:16-17)
So you deny your own post that I quipped earlier. In the real world, you are a scoundrel, a "flip-flopper" a fish out of water. You have subdued your own argument by intent!
The person to whom you first addressed Matthew 25:23-46 is not so much interested in the actual definition of "Christian" as per Jesus' own quotes, but in cloaking His truth in the rags any counterfeit religion that bears His name. One may of course ask why Gatlin feels compelled to indirectly slander the Christianity of Jesus Christ. However, I'm afraid we know the answer.
Of course, the man is backed by his wife Michelle. I understand she actually wrote his community organizer leaflets that he handed out at Church on Sunday.
The only finger Gatlin is pointing is his middle finger. To EVERY poster and lurker here who knows the truth of the matter, and the carnival games Gatlin plays in defense of Islam which are in defense of the Great Pretender's warring words.
Sir William Blackstone, (born July 10, 1723, London, England—died February 14, 1780, Wallingford, Oxfordshire), English jurist, whose Commentaries on the Laws of England, 4 vol. (1765–69), is the best-known description of the doctrines of English law. The work became the basis of university legal education in England and North America. He was knighted in 1770.
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
Too bad Gatlin wasn't there; He have run those leaflets all over DC in his all-weather golf cart. "Neither snow nor rain..." Btw, I wonder if the First Wookie's hoof wuz affected by writer's cramp?
What about "luck" at a casino in Las Vegas? I'd have fun answering those questions, but I'd be butting on a conversation between you and GarySpFc.
Ah, I feel much better!!! What a stud!!
I have been reading some of the many threads Gatlin has posted upon. Wasn't his original monicker "tater?" Why in the world would anyone choose that monicker?
Be my guest. I tire when arguing with brick walls.
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
Feel free pal; I have a few hours this evening to watch and learn from you. I caution you to be careful, though. You could become bruised by my retorts.
You mean your attempt at spamming & flooding & phishing? Oh no, you are the best! Heh-heh... Yup. The Gatlin is the very best!! If the ACLU/SPLC is paying him by the cut & paste (or laffs), they're getting their money's worth.
Yes, it is believed that the "tater" moniker wa Gatlin's. Before it was mashed. Why in the world would anyone choose that monicker? Because it dwells underground, frightened of the light?
You have subdued your own argument by intent! Not so much. For one thing, I wasn't MAKING an argument in my last post. Just posting an observation. Perhaps it will help if I label what I am doing at each step, so that it will be clear. (RETORT, CONTAINING A SUBTLE AD HOMINEM) You made a statement about the bulk of the American people that was quite harsh. I replied with a statement about the motivation of some of them that was more generous as to their motives and reasoning. (THEORETICAL MUSING) And I acknowledge that maybe they're right. Our political system is extraordinarily corrupt, and has produced terrible results over and over again. Apathy might be a better approach to it than the one I have followed. I keep having hope in its reform, but in that respect I may be a fool. (ANSWER TO ACCUSATION, CONTAINING A MIXTURE OF FACT AND LIGHT SARCASM.) In the real world I am not a scoundrel. I am a man, not a fish. I change my mind when I am persuaded of facts, but I form my beliefs on facts and don't change my mind without a good reason. (TRUISM) A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. (SARCASTIC CLOSING STATEMENT) There is not, in fact, an "argument" in this post.
(IRONY) Ok, then, this should be fun,
You sound like Jesse Ventua.
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
With forty years of defending Christianity (based on your posts this evening) you are all of a sudden tired? How is that? What happened to your "divine" inspiration to spread the good word? You muist realize, when you profess credentials (earlier up the thread) and can not support your own work by thoughts, words, deeds and actions you look like a fool to the viewing audience besides myself.
Indeed, BUT good! For whatever rea$on, Major Tater has not only become a spam-baiting propagandist of anti-Christian propaganda at LF, but a proponent of subversive socialist-statist-Muslim causes.
Jesse, this may be hard for you to understand, but I have Parkinson's disease, and typing is very difficult for me.
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
If Williams was conducting it, he'd also have covered for America's First Mooselum President, but alas was beaten to the punch by former Klintoon Operative, and now Dem Operative at NBC, George Stephanopolous. Cranky has probably already answered this...
You have become too defensive already and I still have a few hours remaing to undertand what you actually are trying to say. Look, get to the point!
And exactly what logic would that be?
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
No way of knowing, but considering Team 0bolo has been at war with the USA for 6 years, the number -- anecdotally speaking -- must be astronomical. Add to that number, the number of known radical Mooslimbs, AND Messican gang members and MS-13.
That would be left-wing/anti-America "logic" from Destro's/Gatlin's alternative universe. (IOW, get ready for a spin in the red-zone.)
I don't want you to be or feel unconfortable. I wish you no pain or suffering at all. But you must change your suggested credentials from your stated background; I take you at your word. You really have no legs to stand on and you know the same.
No, the quesion was yours, namely "Can you find anything incorrect in the articles?" To which I relpied in #46: Yes, its premise of pretense of moral relevancy. Anyone can spin facts or selectively cherry pick facts to support an argument. But that does not give weight or validity to the agrument in the overall context of reality. The Crusades, Inquisition, the institution and justification of slavery in the name of Christ occured hunreds of years ago - in other words in the distant PAST. What is occurring in the name of Isalm around the glode (ISIS, Boko Haram, etc.) is happening NOW. People, societies, civilizations grow and mature, many to the point where the acknowledge and condemn past actions within their ranks and no longer tolerate it. Where is the KKK and its ilk these days? Christian America roundly and publically rejected these groups and told them you can't live with us and to get out of Dodge - or else. What is occurring in the name if Isalm is in real time, not hundreds of years ago BUT it isn't much different what was done in the name of Islam hundreds of years ago. One critical difference, if not the singular most important one, is that Muslims around the glode, en masse, clearly and loudly, not even Jordan yet, has told ISIS and its ilk to go away, you can't live with us, get out of Mecca - or else. Get it?" It is cyrstal clear that you do not get it.
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Absolutely!!! It may be a revelation to Americans in the conservative and religious right movement, but truth means being in accord with facts or reality, or fidelity to an original standard or ideal. It is not a complex concept to comprehend, especially for the evangelical right that embraces the Ninth Commandment of the Decalogue that forbids “bearing false witness” (lying) leading one to believe that every Christian embraces truth. In fact, the Christian religion’s namesake, Jesus Christ, is renowned for saying “the truth shall set you free” in John 8:32. The point is that all Christians should advocate and revere the truth with religious fervor; unless it is uttered by President Barack Obama at which point they “can’t handle the truth.” Although the President stated the truth during that bizarre event in a secular nation, the National Prayer Breakfast, this week, he violated that unspoken American rule that at no time will any American utter an untoward remark about the Christian religion whether it is the gospel truth or not. The fact is that in stating an irrefutable truth about Christianity, the President grossly understated the reality that throughout history, there has been much more violence and killing in the name of Christianity as in the name of Islam. The truth of the matter is that despite the recent death and violence at the hands of radical Islamists such as the Islamic State (ISIS, ISIL, or IS), it pales in comparison to the history, including very recent history, of violence wrought on humanity by Christians in the name of Christianity. The President infuriated the Christian right during the National Prayer Breakfast when he said that no particular religion “has a monopoly on violence.” His exact words were, “And lest we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place – remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ. Slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ.” Of course the President spoke the truth, albeit a grossly understated truth, but it incited the Christian right to apoplexy as if he had insulted their god almighty to his face. The tea party claimed the President “threw Christians under the bus,” dirty Rush Limbaugh said the President’s remark was “an insult to Christianity” and the Daily Caller was certain the President’s truth was a ploy to put a halt to real Americans’ well-intentioned “criticism of radical Islamists.” None of the criticism is even remotely true, because all the President did was acknowledge that in the same way ISIS uses the Muslim faith to rally followers to, and advance, its violent agenda, radical fundamentalists in the Christian faith have done exactly the same thing throughout world history to horrific effect. The President could, and should, have just uttered Jesus Christ’s words and told Christians so ardently critical of Islam that “whosoever is without sin, let him cast the first stone,” but one thing the extremist right will not countenance is President Barack Obama citing a scripture or Jesus Christ’s words from “their” precious Caucasian bible. Where the President held back in speaking “pure truth” was his reluctance to cite that “Christianist violence” was not just reserved to the Crusades and Inquisition, slavery, or Jim Crow. It has continued unabated and in nearly every instance it is just as violent as images and reports of ISIS atrocities. It is why Christians cannot possibly criticize the Muslim religion, or condemn all of its devotees, as violent monsters when their religion has been, and still is, responsible for unrivaled violence from the Old Testament to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and every era in between. It may be a hard truth to handle, but it is a historically verifiable truth nonetheless and unfortunately for the faithful, Christianity’s violence has a scriptural basis permeating the Christian bible from start to finish. It is important to note that although Jesus preached to love your neighbor, he also instructed his followers to go and “make disciples” and that whoever rejected his message was doomed to a violent death by his own hands in A Revelation 19:11-16. Besides the extreme violence under the direction of the god of the Old Testament, the Christian Crusades and Inquisitions, during the 20th Century alone, while Muslim violence claimed the lives of around 2 million people during the Iran-Iraq war and the war in Afghanistan, violence by Christians claimed the lives of close to 100 million people. These acts of religious violence include the “ World Wars, the Holocaust, the colonial wars in Southeast Asia and Africa, and the sectarian warfare in the Balkans including ‘an explicit genocide‘ against Muslim Bosnians by Serbian Orthodox Christians.” As Middle East historian Juan Cole notes, regardless the mass violence perpetrated by Christians may not have been directly in the name of Christianity, in “every conflict the combatants were overtly religious, and invoked their religion as part of their military campaigns.” This is particularly true of evangelical Christian George W. Bush’s 2003 “righteous crusade” in invading Iraq replete with “ biblical verses engraved on weapons” that claimed the lives of ov er 655,000 innocent Iraqi civilians; nearly all devotees of Islam. Many of the Islamist warriors in ISIL are fighting to reclaim their homes and place in Iraq society after Christian Bush helped drive them out of their own country; not just because of religion. But as Cole points out, “they are organized around groups that share a common religious and cultural background;” not unlike America’s military forces that invaded, conquered, and killed hundreds-of-thousands of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan under direct orders from their commander in chief; evangelical fundamentalist George W. Bush. For many Americans, the idea of a National Prayer Breakfast is abominable, but for once President Obama made the most out of a bizarre event and put Americans in the religious right and conservative movement who portray all Muslims as violence-prone monsters in the proper perspective; they are rank hypocrites. Now, it is no more truth that all Christians are violent monsters because of their religion’s incredibly violent history than devotees of the Muslim faith are due to a terrorist criminal attack on America or ISIL militants reclaiming their homes, but it was refreshing to see President Obama, a Christian adherent, utter the truth to make a very prescient point at a multi-faith religious function. Of course, one cannot possibly expect the evangelical or conservative extremists in this country to accept what they know to be true, because it is like that adage; “the truth hurts.” However, for some Americans being bombarded daily with Fox News and conservative lies that all Muslims are violent due to their religion, it is possible they will take the President’s truth to heart and acknowledge that in the same way all Christians are not violent monsters based on the faith’s precedent-setting historical violence, all followers of Islam are not members of ISIS or prone to violence. It was a truth Americans desperately needed to hear and one religious and conservative extremists can’t handle; especially because President Barack Obama had the courage to utter it in a highly religious public forum the nation’s faithful were paying attention to. From a secular humanist’s perspective, it was long overdue and a stroke of genius from a dying breed of American; a Christian humanist. http://www.politicususa.com/2015/02/07/radical-cant- handle-truth-president-obama.html.
No, it is not contested among historians. All of the Middle East and North Africa were strongly Christian, prior to the time of Mohammed. Good simple, honest rebuttal, Gary... Gatlin means to say, his liberal/left-wing sources of revisionist history don't much like the truth of the matter. It also underscores the fact that Islam has now been engaging in ("provocation" -- HA! Is that how he characterized it?) invasion, murder, and convertion by the sword for almost a thousand years and counting.
Nice cut & paste spam. Can you whiddle that Alpo/red herring down to a teaspoon? Oh...pardon while I get up and take a "tater." At ease, Spammeister.
You make sense, SOSO. Now, what do you really intend by stating within your tagline, "потому что Бог хочет это тот путь" It seems you don't know what you say.
These rabid animals have all the support and encouragement they need from the lips of 0bama himself to continue... #1 “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam” #2 “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer” #3 “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.” #4 “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.” #5 “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.” #6 “Islam has always been part of America” #7 “we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities” #8 “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.” #9 “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.” #10 “I made clear that America is not – and never will be – at war with Islam.” GAME. SET. MATCH. Good nite everybody! But oh wait:
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestHe's [the Muzzie President] a Constitutional scholar, doncha know?
#98. To: Pridie.Nones (#96)
It is rare to have any outrage of or by the American People in the USA. Today, all the People do is watch TV, pay their taxes and thank God that they don't have to pay more.
#99. To: Pridie.Nones (#86)
Your research doesn't seem to have much impact, does it? Similarly like all the research of historical evidence about various Constutional Amendments attempting to redress grievances or nullify the process.
#100. To: Gatlin, Carnival Barker, A K A Stone (#34)
Get lost, Punk.
"thanks for providing me a platform from which to launch articles you have not disputed as inaccurate."
#101. To: Liberator (#97)
Has anybody ever been able to discern an iota of documentation from the Kenyan's writings or evidence that supports "constitutional scholar"?
#102. To: Gatlin (#59)
So those who called themselves “Christians” and committed atrocities that solely occurred on “command of church authorities” or were committed in the name of “Christianity” were deemed NOT to be “Christians....by whom?
#103. To: Gatlin, Deckard, Pridie.Nones, The Big Top (#34)
You are doing nothing here except trying to cause disruption.
#104. To: GarySpFC (#99)
There is more at stake in this than what appears on the surface, because once a man chooses to believe a lie he has departed from reality. He thinks he can contain the lie in a dark corner of his mind, but in reality it infects the totality of his being.
#105. To: Pridie.Nones (#101)
Yes. He has written at least one document that you should be able to identify:
#106. To: GarySpFC (#62)
#107. To: Vicomte13 (#98)
#108. To: redleghunter, Gatlin (#102)
#109. To: Liberator (#105)
#110. To: Pridie.Nones, Gatlin, Carnival Barker (#35)
To Gatlin:
"You should take a few moments of your precious time and reflect upon yourself before pointing fingers."
#111. To: Pericles (#91)
#112. To: Pridie.Nones (#109)
I understand she [Bigfoot] actually wrote his community organizer leaflets that he handed out at Church on Sunday.
#113. To: Pridie.Nones (#104)
I am curious about your intent of the above post that I quote. Are you saying that "belief" is tied to "reality?" If so, how do you explain "animism" and the perpetual belief systems thereof?
#114. To: Gatlin, Pridie.Nones (#36)
Thanks, I just devoterd two seconds to that.
#115. To: Liberator, Gatlin (#110)
#116. To: Vicomte13 (#113)
I'd have fun answering those questions, but I'd be butting on a conversation between you and GarySpFc.
#117. To: Vicomte13, GarySpFc (#113)
I'd have fun answering those questions, but I'd be butting on a conversation between you and GarySpFc.
#118. To: Pridie.Nones, Gatlin, The Smallest Show On Earth (#37)
Can you find anything incorrect in the articles?
#119. To: Pridie.Nones, Gatlin (#115)
I have been reading some of the many threads Gatlin has posted upon. Wasn't his original monicker "tater?"
#120. To: Pridie.Nones (#107)
So you deny your own post that I quipped earlier. In the real world, you are a scoundrel, a "flip-flopper" a fish out of water.
#121. To: Pridie.Nones (#117)
Feel free pal; I have a few hours this evening to watch and learn from you. I caution you to be careful, though. You could become bruised by my retorts.
#122. To: Pridie.Nones (#117)
I caution you to be careful, though. You could become bruised by my retorts.
#123. To: GarySpFC (#116)
I tire when arguing with brick walls.
#124. To: Deckard (#38)
#125. To: Pridie.Nones (#123)
(Edited)
You muist realize, when you profess credentials (earlier up the thread) and can not support your own work by thoughts, words, deeds and actions you look like a fool to the viewing audience besides myself.
#126. To: CZ82, cranky (#39)
Wasn't that interview [where 0buma admitted, "My Muslim Faith..."] done by Brian Williams?
#127. To: Vicomte13 (#120)
#128. To: Pericles, Gatlin, Pridie.Nones, Liberator, Murron, cranky, GarySpFc, Stoner (#68)
It is just stupid logic from the American right wing...........
#129. To: CZ82 (#40)
I wonder how many Muslims Obolo has brought into this country since he took office? Couple 100,000 or a couple million?
#130. To: SOSO, Pericles, Gatlin, Pridie.Nones, Liberator, Murron, cranky, GarySpFc, Stoner (#128)
And exactly what logic would that be?
#131. To: GarySpFC (#125)
Jesse, this may be hard for you to understand, but I have Parkinson's disease, and typing is very difficult for me.
#132. To: Gatlin, Pridie.Nones, Liberator, pericles, Murron, cranky, GarySpFc, Stoner, All (#67)
However, the original question was: "What Obama has done to make the USA more Islamic?"
#133. To: Pericles, cranky, Murron, Stoner, Liberator, Pridie.Nones, Deckard, CZ82, GarySpFC, SOSO, rlk, hondo68, Vicomte13, redleghunter, sneakypete (#89)
Well, Obama was stupid in mentioning the past. he should have mentioned the Christian Lord's Resistance Army (LRA), in Africa that is as brutal as Boko Haram and are fighting for religious reasons. But Obama has to dumb stuff down for Americans to get a point across and that is Obama's weakness because while Clinton was good at dumbing down his points so the yokels could get his message, Obama never understood Joe Blow Americans and how to talk to them.
Who, Where, When, Why How and What.
Obama was not the person to say this.
Where he said it was not the right place.
When he said it was not appropriate.
Why he said it is because he believes it.
How he said it and what he said has not been challenged.
The Radical Right Can’t Handle The Truth From President Obama.
#134. To: GarySpFC, Gatlin, redleghunter (#41)
"And the argument that the Crusades — which resulted in the deaths of untold thousands — were only in response to Muslim provocation is highly contested among historians."
#135. To: Gatlin (#133)
#136. To: SOSO (#132)
#137. To: Murron, Gatlin, Pericles, cranky, All (#44)
Gatlin/Pericles: "What Obama has done to make the USA more Islamic."?
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