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Title: Jordan announces execution of six ISIS prisoners 'within hours' in retaliation after terrorists release lavish video of Jordanian pilot being TORCHED to death in a cage in yet another new low for humanity
Source: Daily Mail Online
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... -captured-Jordanian-pilot.html
Published: Feb 3, 2015
Author: John Hall and Tom Wyke and Steph Cockrof
Post Date: 2015-02-03 17:01:57 by cranky
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Views: 4709
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  • Video titled 'Healing the Believers' Chests' shows brutal murder of pilot
  • Moaz al-Kasasbeh is filmed being burnt alive while locked in a cage
  • He was captured in December after his jet crashed over ISIS-held territory
  • Jordan has confirmed pilot was brutally murdered by ISIS on January 3
  • Barack Obama condemned the killing, branding it 'vicious and barbaric'
  • David Cameron said 'sickening murder' would 'strengthen our resolve'
  • Jordan vowed to execute all six of its ISIS-linked prisoners 'within hours'
  • Security sources said execution of failed female suicide bomber Sajida al-Rishawi likely to take place tomorrow

Militants fighting for the Islamic State terror group in Syria and Iraq have claimed to have burned alive captured Jordanian pilot Moaz al-Kasasbeh while he was locked helpless in a cage.

The chilling footage, entitled 'Healing the Believers' Chests', appears to show the captured airman being set alight as the militants - infamous for their barbaric murders - plunged new depths of depravity.

The expertly-edited footage, filmed from several camera angles, shows the pilot wearing an orange jumpsuit and seemingly doused in fuel, as a trail of petrol leading up to the iron bars of the cage is seen being set ablaze.

Flames are seen quickly spreading across the dirt to the cage where they completely engulf the helpless pilot in images that are far too distressing to publish.

The release of the video has prompted Jordan to announce it will execute all six prisoners convicted of association with ISIS 'within hours'.

Within an hour of the 22-minute-long video's publication, Jordan reportedly moved ISIS-linked prisoners to a jail in the south of the country which is usually used for state executions.

Brutal: The footage, which is titled 'Healing the Believers Chests' appears to show the captured airman wearing an orange jumpsuit as a trail of petrol leading up to the cage is seen being set alight

Brutal: The footage, which is titled 'Healing the Believers Chests' appears to show the captured airman wearing an orange jumpsuit as a trail of petrol leading up to the cage is seen being set alight

Horror: The video, which is ISIS' most sickening yet, begins by showing Kasasbeh being paraded in front of heavily armed men wearing combat fatigues and yellow masks

Horror: The video, which is ISIS' most sickening yet, begins by showing Kasasbeh being paraded in front of heavily armed men wearing combat fatigues and yellow masks

Walking to his death: The professionally shot and edited footage shows Moaz al-Kasasbeh walking towards the cage in which he would be burnt alive

Walking to his death: The professionally shot and edited footage shows Moaz al-Kasasbeh walking towards the cage in which he would be burnt alive

Militants fighting for the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq have released a video they claim shows Jordanian pilot Moaz al-Kasasbeh being burned alive while locked in a cage

Militants fighting for the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq have released a video they claim shows Jordanian pilot Moaz al-Kasasbeh being burned alive while locked in a cage

It is understood the execution of Sajida al-Rishawi - the female militant whom ISIS had originally demanded Jordan release in exchange for Kasasbeh - will take place tomorrow morning.

Last night it was reported that Jordanian officials had told the 26 year-old pilot’s devastated family that they believed the footage to be genuine and that the man branded a ‘hero’ in his homeland was dead.

It was the first time the pilot had been seen since he was captured in December by triumphant ISIS fighters when his F-16 jet crashed near the group’s Syrian headquarters of Raqqa during a US-Coalition led airstrike.

'Not in vain'

Mamdouh al-Ameri, spokesman for the Jordanian armed forces, confirmed the pilot's death and vowed revenge.

He said: 'While the military forces mourn the martyr, they emphasise his blood will not be shed in vain. Our punishment and revenge will be as huge as the loss of the Jordanians.'

King Abdullah II, speaking from his U.S visit in Washington, made a statement on Jordanian TV, saying he had received news of the 'martyrdom with sadness and deep sorrow'.

Calling the murder a 'cowardly act of terror', he also pleaded for his countrymen to stand 'side-by-side', vowing that Kasasbeh's death 'would only make us stronger'.

US President Barack Obama says that if the video turns out to be authentic, it would be more evidence of the group's 'viciousness and barbarity.'

He added that the U.S. would 'redouble the vigilance and determination on the part of our global coalition to make sure they are degraded and ultimately defeated,' adding that the footage serves to indicate that 'whatever ideology they are operating out of is bankrupt.'

Prime Minister David Cameron also condemned the 'sickening murder', but said it would only 'strengthen our resolve'.

He said: 'I pay tribute to the dedication and bravery of Lieutenant Moaz al-Kassasbeh, who paid with his life while protecting his country and us all. My thoughts and prayers are with his family tonight at this tragic time.

'These terrorists' brutal behaviour will only strengthen our resolve... We will not stop until these evil extremists and their poisonous ideology are defeated.'

Led to his death

The footage showing Kasasbeh's gruesome murder appears to be professionally shot and edited in the style of the horrific beheading videos featuring the terror group's executioner in chief, Jihadi John.

The video, which is ISIS' most sickening yet, begins with a lengthy montage showing Jordan's King Abdullah II declaring his support for the anti-ISIS coalition in the style of a TV news report.

Captured: Muath al-Kasasbeh (centre in white) was captured by the Islamic State after after crashing near its HQ in the Syrian city of Raqqa in December. ISIS is now believed to brutally murdered him

Captured: Muath al-Kasasbeh (centre in white) was captured by the Islamic State after after crashing near its HQ in the Syrian city of Raqqa in December. ISIS is now believed to brutally murdered him

ISIS threatened to kill Kasasbeh (centre) if a deadline was not met for the release of would be Rishawi

ISIS threatened to kill Kasasbeh (centre) if a deadline was not met for the release of would be Rishawi

Hostage: The fate of Jordanian pilot Mu'adh al-Kasasibah, is still unknown
Exchange: The Jordanian government has said they will only release failed suicide bomber Sajida al-Rishawi, who is on death row in Jordan, if it gets proof Mr al-Kaseasbeh is alive

Exchange: The Jordanian government had said they will only release failed female suicide bomber Sajida al-Rishawi (right), who is on death row in Jordan, if it gets proof Mr Kasasbeh (left) is alive

It then cuts to beaten and bruised-looking Kasasbeh sitting in a darkened room wearing a Guantanamo-style orange overall and giving details of his training as a pilot, the anti-ISIS airstrikes he took part in, and details of crash in which his F-16 jet came down in jihadi-held territory.

At several points the camera zooms in close to his face, on which there is a look of resignation similar to that of other hostages murdered on propaganda videos.

Unusually, the footage also features close up shots of the masked militants, one of whom later kneels down to set light to the trail of petrol that would eventually burn al-Kasasbeh alive.

Before cutting to the sickening murder, the video - released by ISIS' Al-Furqan media centre - continues with TV-style news reports showing the dead and dying child victims of coalition airstikes.

Scars of beatings

The video then cuts to Kasasbeh standing in the centre of a rubble-strewn courtyard surrounded by heavily-armed militants wearing yellow face masks and military fatigues.

The pilot’s face bears the scars of beatings. It looks swollen, heavily bruised and bloody in places.

There is no sound other than that of crows cawing for more than a minute as the HD camera films close-up high definition shots of the soon-to-be victim and his killers.

Relatives of Moaz al-Kasasbeh held pictures of him at a rally calling for his release earlier today

Relatives of Moaz al-Kasasbeh held pictures of him at a rally calling for his release earlier today

Anwar al-Tarawneh, the wife of Jordanian pilot, Lt. Muath al-Kaseasbeh, who is held by Islamic State group militants, holds a poster of him as she weeps during a protest in Amman, Jordan, Tuesday, Feb. 3, 2015. Al-Kaseasbeh was seized after his F-16 jet crashed near the Islamic State group's de facto capital, Raqqa, Syria, in December last year. (AP Photo/Raad Adayleh)

Grief: Anwar al-Tarawneh, the wife of Kasasbeh, appeared at a protest in Amman, Jordan earlier today calling for his release

Anger: Jordan had vowed to do 'everything' could to save the life of ISIS-held pilot Moaz al-Kasasbeh. Here Kasasbeh's relatives hold posters of the captive during a rally in the city of Karak over the weekend

Anger: Jordan had vowed to do 'everything' could to save the life of ISIS-held pilot Moaz al-Kasasbeh. Here Kasasbeh's relatives hold posters of the captive during a rally in the city of Karak over the weekend

Kasasbeh is then seen standing in a cage as a militant - identified at the end of the video by the name Emir Ahmed - uses a large stick to light the trail of petrol leading up to his feet.

Engulfed by flames

The enormous flames quickly engulf the pilot, who is seen battling them for more than than a minute before falling to his knees and putting up no further resistance. He remains alive for at least another 30 seconds, however, before falling backwards on to the floor of the cage.

Fighters then pour debris, including broken masonry, over the cage which a bulldozer flattens, with the body still inside.

Twisted metal, a mechanical digger and two single-storey buildings are shown in the background of what is believed to be a district of Raqqa.

Several cameras appear to have been used to film the pilot’s last minutes from a variety of angles. The has been expertly cut together by the group’s propaganda wing – said to include several Britons because of their social media skills.

Images of the killing were circulated by IS supporters on a Twitter account known for the group’s propaganda although the video was taken down from YouTube.

Even by the sick standards of IS whose fighters have tortured, beheaded, executed, crucified and stoned its victims – another recently released video showed a man blindfolded and thrown from the seven floor of a tower block for ‘being gay’, incredibly he survived the fall only to be stoned to death - the latest killing plunges new depths.

Negotiations

The video comes just days after ISIS' British executioner in chief, Jihadi John, savagely murdered Japanese journalist Kenji Goto in a shocking filmed beheading after days of intensive negotiations through intermediaries to save him.

His fate had been linked to that of al-Kassasbeh after he was shown holding a picture of the Jordanian – the only Coalition pilot to have been captured.

A bereaved man prays with verses of Quran at the Kasasbeh tribe society for Muath Al Kasasbeh, after hearing the news of his execution

A bereaved man prays with verses of Quran at the Kasasbeh tribe society for Muath Al Kasasbeh, after hearing the news of his execution

Yaseen Al Rawashdeh, uncle of Kasasbeh, speaks to the media at the Kasasbeh tribe society after news of his nephew's death emerged

Yaseen Al Rawashdeh, uncle of Kasasbeh, speaks to the media at the Kasasbeh tribe society after news of his nephew's death emerged

Angry Jordanians gather in Amman after hearing of Kasasbeh's barbaric murder at the hands of ISIS jihadists

Angry Jordanians gather in Amman after hearing of Kasasbeh's barbaric murder at the hands of ISIS jihadists

Activists took to the street in Amman to protest and wave their flags in defiance of the shocking video

Activists took to the street in Amman to protest and wave their flags in defiance of the shocking video

The demonstrators carried signed which read: 'We demand the execution of Islamic State detainees in Jordan'

The demonstrators carried signed which read: 'We demand the execution of Islamic State detainees in Jordan'

Yesterday Jordanian government spokesman Momeni said: 'All state organisations have been mobilised to secure the proof of life that we require so that he can be freed and returned to his home.

'We are still ready to hand over the convict Sajida al-Rishawi in return for the return of our son and our hero.'

He condemned the jihadists' murder of Japanese journalist 47-yer-old Goto after days of intensive efforts through intermediaries to save him, adding: 'We spared no effort, in coordination with the Japanese government, to save his life.'

The release of the horrific footage appears to confirm rumours heard by anti-ISIS activists in the terror group's stronghold Raqqa in early January that the pilot had already been killed by burning.

Jordanian officials agreed 44 year-old Sajida al-Rishawi, sentenced to death for her part in an Al Qaeda bombing plot that killed 60 people at three hotels in Amman in 2005, would be released but only if the jihadists provided proof that al-Kassasbeh was still alive.

Jordan had been conducting indirect, behind-the-scenes negotiations through tribal leaders in neighbouring Iraq.

When no evidence was provided, it raised suspicions that the pilot was already dead and that ISIS was exploiting his case for propaganda, seeking to split the Coalition and turn Jordanians against its controversial role in airstrikes over Syria.

Protests

Officials said last night that it was unclear when the video - released yesterday - was made, although there were reports that the killing took place a month ago, on January 3.

US, British and Israeli video specialists were studying the footage for clues as to where and when it had been filmed

The shocking video comes just days after ISIS' British executioner in chief, Jihadi John, savagely murdered Japanese journalist Kenji Goto in a shocking filmed beheading after days of intensive negotiations

The shocking video comes just days after ISIS' British executioner in chief, Jihadi John, savagely murdered Japanese journalist Kenji Goto in a shocking filmed beheading after days of intensive negotiations

Alan Henning, murdered by ISIS

Mr Goto joined a list of other victims of Jihadi John, including fellow Japanese national Haruna Yukawa (left). British aid workers David Haines (centre), and Alan Henning (right) have also been murdered

Aid worker Peter Kassig, also killed by ISIS

US journalist James Foley (left) was the first to appear alongside Jihadi John in one of the sickening videos, followed by Steven Sotloff (centre). American aid worker Peter Kassig (right) was also murdered by ISIS

As the news emerged, a large group, including the pilot's relatives, gathered at a tribal meeting place in Amman, where they have waited for weeks for words on his fate.

Members of al- Kasasbeh family had been gathering every day at a community centre not far from the royal palace.

The pilot’s father, Safi al-Kaseasbeh, had said he would blame Jordan’s government if it failed to broker his son’s freedom.

Among the prayers being said for Kasasbeh, angry shouts against King Abdullan erupted.

Others reportedly shouted: 'Moaz, martyr, your blood will not be in vain' and 'No Tahawi, no Zarqawi, we want to execute al-Rishawi'.

Some other protesters waved signs reading: 'We demand the execution of Islamic State detainees in Jordan', while also used the gathering to call out against Jordan's participation in the coalition.

As some family members wept, an uncle shouted in Arabic: 'I received a phone call from the chief of staff saying God bless his soul.' The pilot's father, Safi, was surrounded by family members.

Meanwhile, in the pilot's home village of Ai, violent protests erupted and a local government office was set on fire. Witnesses said the situation was tense and riot police were patrolling the streets.

The White House this afternoon said the U.S. intelligence community was working to authenticate the video, adding that it condemned the militant group.

King Abdullah appeared on Jordanian television this afternoon to talk about the pilot's 'martyrdom' before asking for his countrymen to stand 'side-by-side' in the wake of the barbaric murder

King Abdullah appeared on Jordanian television this afternoon to talk about the pilot's 'martyrdom' before asking for his countrymen to stand 'side-by-side' in the wake of the barbaric murder

'The United States strongly condemns ISIL's actions and we call for the immediate release of all those held captive by ISIL,' White House spokeswoman Bernadette Meehan said in a statement, using an alternative acronym for ISIS.

'We stand in solidarity with the Government of Jordan and the Jordanian people,' she said.

Military sources in Jordan have warned that there would be a backlash against al-Rishawi and other IS captives with death sentences carried out swiftly if al-Kassasbeh was killed by the group.

‘The revenge will be as big as the calamity that has hit Jordan,’ army spokesman Colonel Mamdouh al Ameri said in a televised statement last night.

'Savage murder'

Michael Haines, brother of the murdered British aid worker David Haines who was killed by Jihadi John, said his heart was 'filled with sadness' at the news of the 'savage murder of another hostage'.

He said: 'Firstly, my thoughts and prayers go out to the family of Moaz al Kasasbeh, I know only too well the feelings of loss, anger and disbelief they must be experiencing right now. I share their pain.

'The murder of Moaz al Kasasbeh once more shows the unmerciful nature of these criminals.

'The world must come and stand together in the rejection of the fear the terrorists are attempting to spread. Only when we are all united against this vile threat will we defeat it.'

Ed Miliband tweeted: 'The murder of Lt Moaz al-Kasasbeh by ISIL shows their appalling brutality and offends the values of humanity shared across the world.'

We will not stop until these evil extremists and their poisonous ideology are defeated
David Cameron

Mr Cameron added: 'We stand in solidarity with our Jordanian friends and we will continue to work with them and our other Coalition partners to defeat ISIL.

'Together we are making progress. In the last week, ISIL has been thrown out of Kobane.

'The Iraqi Armed Forces, with Coalition support, are steadily re-taking territory in Northern Iraq, freeing many thousands from ISIL's utter cruelty.'

General Lloyd Austin, commander of the US Central Command released a statement condemning the murder of the Jordanian pilot, saying: 'This vicious act is yet another example of ISIL or “Daesh” brutality and warped ideology. First and foremost, our thoughts and prayers are with his family.

‘Al-Kasasbeh served his country courageously and honourably, and as a part of the counter-ISIL Coalition he is an important member of our team.

‘I spoke with General Mashal al-Zaben, Chief of Staff of the Jordanian Armed Forces and assured him that we stand with our Jordanian partners and together we will fight this barbaric enemy until it is defeated.’

Coalition jets have already reportedly been bombing parts of Tel Afar.

Angela Merkel also said that 'Germany stands shoulder-to-shoulder with Jordan in the fight against terrorism' after the barbaric killing.

And former Foreign Secretary Sir Malcolm Rifkind said that IS was as ‘bad’ as Hitler and the Nazis.

Last week Jordan vowed to fast-track the execution of Sajida al-Rishawi if ISIS kills Kasasbeh.

It apparently warned ISIS that she and other jailed ISIS commanders would be 'quickly judged and sentenced' in revenge for the execution of the pilot.

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#1. To: cranky, All (#0)

It apparently warned ISIS that she and other jailed ISIS commanders would be 'quickly judged and sentenced' in revenge for the execution of the pilot.

Has the shite really hit the fan? By Allah how could ISIS do this to a Muslim? It is just fine to behead infidels but to burn a Muslim!!!!!!! Why, why, why..........that's totally unacceptable. You go, Jordan. Be all of the revengful Muslims Allah intends you to be.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-02-03   17:51:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: cranky (#0)

Prime Minister David Cameron also condemned the 'sickening murder', but said it would only 'strengthen our resolve'.

What's Cameron's resolve? The only resolve he has is to let more islamic goons into the UK.

rlk  posted on  2015-02-03   18:29:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: cranky, all (#0)

"Militants fighting for the Islamic State terror group in Syria and Iraq have claimed to have burned alive captured Jordanian pilot Moaz al-Kasasbeh while he was locked helpless in a cage".

Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow!

("We sing about God because we believe in Him. We are not trying to offend anybody, but the evidence that we have seen of Him in our small little lives trumps your opinion about whether or not He exists". ~ Jeff Foxworthy)

Murron  posted on  2015-02-03   19:13:54 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: cranky (#0)

Wow. There really are "moderate Muslims!"

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-03   19:22:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: rlk (#2)

What's Cameron's resolve?

Cameron's resolve = "Strongly-worded objections."

The only resolve he has is to let more islamic goons into the UK.

Because an immediate moratorium on imported Muslim goons might be construed as "intolerant, bigoted, and racist." (same case as in the "resolve" of Cameron's American counterparts vis a vis the Mexicans.)

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-03   19:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: cranky (#0)

The only solution to this crap is for us to get 1,000 of the roughest, toughest, meanest sons of bitches in the U, S. Army, then intensively train them for nine monts months as Samurai. Mix in Japanese officers and men. They are to be thoroughly schooled in small arms usage as well as advanced Judo, Karate, Katana, and Tonto with Ninja tactics as well as tracking. They are to be placed under exclusive independent command of Japanese and American officers who have also completed such training. There will be no influence by pansey American generals. At the end of the training period, you'll have a fighting team that will make our pussy SEALs and Special Forces look like brownie girl scouts. The Marquis of Queensberry will will not apply.

A few doses of that will send ISSIS running. Those who are crippled in battle or slow runners are to be killed without mercy.

rlk  posted on  2015-02-03   19:37:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Murron (#3)

"Militants fighting for the Islamic State terror group in Syria and Iraq have claimed to have burned alive captured Jordanian pilot Moaz al-Kasasbeh while he was locked helpless in a cage".

Keep in mind there is a lot of ISIS propaganda here. We don't have that many vids or much proof of most of their more gruesome claimed kills.

And we know some of them have been staged and green-screened rather expertly in local television studios. We know this from some defects in the videos such as inconsistent shadows in the same scene.

ISIS wants to look ultra-brutal and they no doubt are. Whether they are quite as gruesome as they want people to think they are is another question.

If they're killing these people so gruesomely as they claim, why not show every second of it on YouBoob?

Maybe no nukes just yet. Wouldn't be prudent at this juncture, as Spook Daddy used to say.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-03   20:28:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: cranky (#0)

Did anyone else notice...

Zesta  posted on  2015-02-03   20:33:10 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Zesta (#8)

Did anyone else notice...

IF only :-)

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-03   20:41:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TooConservative (#7)

WATCH AT YOUR OWN RISK. IT’S PROBABLY THE WORST THING YOU’VE EVER SEEN. IT’S HORRIFYING.

These people are modern day Nazis and must be stopped.

out damned spot  posted on  2015-02-03   23:51:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: SOSO (#1)

Has the shite really hit the fan? By Allah how could ISIS do this to a Muslim? It is just fine to behead infidels but to burn a Muslim!!!!!!! Why, why, why..........that's totally unacceptable. You go, Jordan. Be all of the revengful Muslims Allah intends you to be.

I finally understand, when Americans are beheaded overseas, we release prisoners.

When Jordanians are beheaded or burned they retaliate.

Is something wrong with this picture?

Oh, let's close Gitmo.

“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org

GarySpFC  posted on  2015-02-04   0:04:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#6)

Oh, and sprinkle a few Kamal Ataturk type Turks in for Samurai training. They have no use for islamics and are good translaters. In their day, the Turks the toughest and most mercylist armies in the business. A friend was stationed in Korea with Turks. The Turks caught a Korean stealing from their supply dump. They drove a steel rod through his head, then hung him out between two forked sticks in front of their dump. After that, there was no stealing from Turk supply dumps. That's the kind of attitude we need.

Recruit Korean fourth degree black belts to help give Karate instruction. Koreans have consistently been the top karate masters in the world since the development of Tae Kwon Do. That's who taught me.

Inculcate the use of dogs. Enemy can outsmart soldiers occasionally, but they can't outsmart dogs.

rlk  posted on  2015-02-04   2:06:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: out damned spot (#10) (Edited)

WATCH AT YOUR OWN RISK. IT’S PROBABLY THE WORST THING YOU’VE EVER SEEN. IT’S HORRIFYING.

I dunno. We saw the monk immolate himself in Vietnam in protest, saw the little Vietnamese girl running down that road naked on fire from napalm. Those of us old enough recall seeing a lot of horrible crap on TV from the Vietnam war. I recall another immolation protester just a few years ago, in NYC I think. It isn't especially worse than those.

For most people, it will be memorable for some time, no doubt.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-04   3:51:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: TooConservative, out damned spot, All (#13)

I believe you are referring to this event in 2004.

"A man set himself afire Monday just outside a White House gate and repeatedly yelled "Allah Allah" after Secret Service (search) officers put out the flames and one held him facedown on the sidewalk."

Unfortunately he was denied his 72 virgins that day.

As for the other events you reference, there is a big difference between a selfie and a non-voluntary ignition. As for that little Vietnamese girl, yes, the picture was extrememly difficult to view - still is. BTW, she wasn't on fire in that picture. Nor did she die.

"More than 40 years after her injury, Phuc, now married with two teenagers and living near Toronto, travels the world to talk about the anger she left behind. After years spent in internal pain, she said, she forgave those who disfigured her."

She sure is a better Christian than I would have been had that been my little girl or my granddaughter.

What ISIS did trumps any autorcity or collateral damage of which I am aware in my lifetime. It is on par with what the barbaric Nazis did to follow human beings, perhaps worse one a one-to-one basis.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-02-04   12:11:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: SOSO (#14)

What ISIS did trumps any autorcity or collateral damage of which I am aware in my lifetime. It is on par with what the barbaric Nazis did to follow human beings, perhaps worse one a one-to-one basis.

Surely you know that it is not unique at all. Barbarous acts still occur on a daily basis in most of the developing world and the Mideast. Our news media just doesn't bother to report it.

ISIS did this to keep their recruiting up. They're getting over a thousand new recruits a month from around the world. They have to make up their losses.

So they do this for recruiting, to intimidate governments whose citizens they hold hostage, etc. It is a very cold-blooded calculation but it is rational, at least for them.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-04   15:33:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TooConservative (#15)

Surely you know that it is not unique at all. Barbarous acts still occur on a daily basis in most of the developing world and the Mideast. Our news media just doesn't bother to report it

So we are supposed to accept this when the media does report on it because it happens all the time? Wow, that's some philosophy, Bunky.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-02-04   18:31:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: SOSO (#16)

So we are supposed to accept this when the media does report on it because it happens all the time? Wow, that's some philosophy, Bunky.

I said no such thing. But you managed to find something to accuse me of, no doubt to assuage your deep-seated and well-deserved inferiority complex.

I'm saying the events themselves are not rare at all. Africa is especially notorious for some gut-wrenching atrocity on a daily basis. It just doesn't get reported because it is so common there.

Recall, for instance, the extensive reports of AIDS-infected men who believed some crackpot witch doctor myth that having sex with a young virgin would purify their blood so the idiots started raping babies? This happened quite often during the big AIDS crisis and often resulted in the death of the infant girl. Now, we expect little else from such backward people. So it isn't even news any more, it's just the depressing norm for that region.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-04   21:13:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: rlk (#6)

The only solution to this crap is for us to get 1,000 of the roughest, toughest, meanest sons of bitches in the U, S. Army, then intensively train them for nine monts months as Samurai. Mix in Japanese officers and men. They are to be thoroughly schooled in small arms usage as well as advanced Judo, Karate, Katana, and Tonto with Ninja tactics as well as tracking. They are to be placed under exclusive independent command of Japanese and American officers who have also completed such training.

Such minus the Japanese exist. They are in hibernation until a willing Prez releases them.

"Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools " (Romans 1:21-22)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-04   21:44:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Zesta (#8)

Did anyone else notice...

"Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools " (Romans 1:21-22)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-04   22:00:53 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: redleghunter (#18)

Such minus the Japanese exist. They are in hibernation until a willing Prez releases them.

When I see it, I'll believe it.

As of now, there is no evidence to support it.

rlk  posted on  2015-02-05   1:09:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: rlk (#20)

As of now, there is no evidence to support it.

Sure there is. Why do you think the Taliban turned tail and ran to Paki in 2002.

And why did they start coming back in 2009.

"Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools " (Romans 1:21-22)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-05   15:03:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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