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Title: The Civil War in color: A world in black and white brought to life as US celebrates 150th anniversary of the abolition of slavery
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URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... versary-abolition-slavery.html
Published: Feb 2, 2015
Author: Daily Mail
Post Date: 2015-02-02 23:32:06 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 6542
Comments: 35

Some 150 years since Abraham Lincoln outlawed slavery in the U.S., a collection of rare Civil War-era photographs have been brought to life through painstaking colorization. February 1 marks National Freedom Day, honoring the signing by President Lincoln of a resolution which became the 13th Amendment to the Constitution and abolished slavery. The photographs, seen here, depict the battle-weary men who fought in the bloody conflict between 1861 and 1865, either for the survival of the Union or a strike out into independence for the Confederates. Scroll down for video

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#8. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Some 150 years since Abraham Lincoln outlawed slavery in the U.S.

President Abraham Lincoln did not outlaw slavery in the U.S. He proclaimed the slaves to be free in those parts of the Confederate States not under Union control. Exempt were the parts under Union control and all of Tennessee. Slavery in the Union states, such as Delaware, was unaffected. Proclaimed as a war measure against the other belligerent party, when the war ended the Emancipation Proclamation had no further legal effect.

The 13th Amendment freed the slaves in the U.S. under President Andrew Johnson. Not until the 13th Amendment did slavery end in the Union states, i.e., the United States.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-02-03   12:11:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: nolu chan, A K A Stone (#8)

President Abraham Lincoln did not outlaw slavery in the U.S. He proclaimed the slaves to be free in those parts of the Confederate States not under Union control. Exempt were the parts under Union control and all of Tennessee. Slavery in the Union states, such as Delaware, was unaffected. Proclaimed as a war measure against the other belligerent party, when the war ended the Emancipation Proclamation had no further legal effect

Facts often forgotten or glossed over in general and in schools in particular.

SOSO  posted on  2015-02-03   12:27:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: SOSO, A K A Stone (#10)

Facts often forgotten or glossed over in general and in schools in particular.

After my good Yankee edumakation, I escaped high school thinking Lincoln was the victim of a lone nut assassin, John Wilkes Booth did it, end of story.

The congressional debate about the 13th Amendment was recorded verbatim and is published in the Congressional Globe, a forerunner of the Federal Record. What was said, by who, and when, is a matter of record. In the recent Spielberg movie, Lincoln, the congressional debate or speeches were fictional, not that the casual viewer would have known.

For the complete Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln, see:

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?page=browse&c=lincoln

For what Lincoln sounded like before Washington speech writers, see below from Volume 3.

The below quotes are from 1858-1859, a year or two before Lincoln was elected President.

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Lincoln at Carlinville, Illinois, August 31, 1858

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/l/lincoln/lincoln3/1:7.1?rgn=div2;view=fulltext

Starts with a bang, page 77. The N-word is not elided in the original.

He [Lincoln] said the question is often asked, why this fuss about n*****s?

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Lincoln speech at Elwood, Kansas, December 1, 1859

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/l/lincoln/lincoln3/1:164.1?rgn=div2;view=fulltext

At page 495, emphasis in original.

People often ask, "why make such a fuss about a few n*****s?''

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Lincoln speech at Edwardsville, Ilinois, September 11, 1858

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/l/lincoln/lincoln3/1:13.1?rgn=div2;view=fulltext

At the bottom of page 94 and continuing on page 95, Lincoln dropped four N-bombs in a single paragraph.

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#19. To: nolu chan (#16)

At the bottom of page 94 and continuing on page 95, Lincoln dropped four N-bombs in a single paragraph.

BFD, that was the lingo of the day (and of today within the black culture). It doesn't negate all of the good things Lincoln did - unless of course you are a southerner or other Lincoln detractor. IMO Lincoln did what was necessary to keep the Union together and that was a good thing to have done (though it may all soon come apart again). Were rules broken, yep, you bet your ass they were. To invoke the attitude of the current Emperor of the Union, sue him. While you at at it throw in FDR as well.

SOSO  posted on  2015-02-03   16:29:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: SOSO (#19)

BFD, that was the lingo of the day (and of today within the black culture).

It was not the lingo of abolitionists. It is not the lingo of Lincoln mythology.

Congressman Lincoln, voting as a man of his times.

JOURNAL OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, AT THE SECOND SESSION OF THE NINTH GENERAL ASSEMBLY, OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS,

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236

[...]

Mr. Webb moved further to amend the amendment, by ad­ding the following, viz:

"Resolved, That the price of the public lands ought to be reduced.

Resolved, That all white male citizens of the age of 21 years and upwards", are entitled to the privilege of voting whether they hold real estate or not.

Resolved, That the elective franchise should be kept pure from contamination by the admission of colored votes.

Resolved, That we approve of the granting of pre-emption rights to settlers on the public lands."

Mr. Hughes moved the previous question.

The question was then taken on the amendment of
Mr. Webb to the amendment;

And decided in the affirmative.—Yeas 35.—Nays 16, The yeas and nays being called for:

Those voting in the affirmative, are,

Messrs. Blackwell Brown, Buckmastcr, Butler, Carpenter of Hamilton, Cloud, Dawson, Dubois, Dunn, Elliott, Fithian, Frazer, Gordon, Gregory, Hamlin, Harreld, Hamp­ton, Harris, Henry, Hunt, Lincoln, Manly, Moore, Murphy,

237

Nunnally, Owen, Pace, Ross, "Stuart, Smith, TrOwer, Webb Wren, Vandevanter and Wood.—35.

Those voting in the negative, are,

Messrs. Able, Blackford. Blockburger, Bowyer, Carpenter of v Sangamon, Craig, Hackelton, Hughes, Hunter, Oliver, -Outhouse, Porter, Tunnell, Turney, Wyatt and Mr. Speak­er.—16.

[...]

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#22. To: nolu chan (#21)

It is not the lingo of Lincoln mythology.

So you don't believe in myths? OK then, start debunking MLK.

Frankly I don't get your point. Every reasonably educated or well infomrd person knows that most of the "common" knowledge about are FFs are more myth than fact. Most know that to be true about just every historical or pop culture figure to some degree or other. So what if Lincoln didn't love blacks at some point in his life? So what if he didn't like blacks at some point in his life? And so what of he even tried to avoid blacks at some point in his life?

Did you know Michael Jordan was an admitted racist at some point in his life?

"Jordan's quoted as saying. "................... I considered myself a racist at the time. Basically, I was against all white people."" I wonder if that is being taught in schools?

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