[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Mail]  [Sign-in]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register] 

"International court’s attack on Israel a sign of the free world’s moral collapse"

"Pete Hegseth Is Right for the DOD"

"Why Our Constitution Secures Liberty, Not Democracy"

Woodworking and Construction Hacks

"CNN: Reporters Were Crying and Hugging in the Hallways After Learning of Matt Gaetz's AG Nomination"

"NEW: Democrat Officials Move to Steal the Senate Race in Pennsylvania, Admit to Breaking the Law"

"Pete Hegseth Is a Disruptive Choice for Secretary of Defense. That’s a Good Thing"

Katie Britt will vote with the McConnell machine

Battle for Senate leader heats up — Hit pieces coming from Thune and Cornyn.

After Trump’s Victory, There Can Be No Unity Without A Reckoning

Vivek Ramaswamy, Dark-horse Secretary of State Candidate

Megyn Kelly has a message for Democrats. Wait for the ending.

Trump to choose Tom Homan as his “Border Czar”

"Trump Shows Demography Isn’t Destiny"

"Democrats Get a Wake-Up Call about How Unpopular Their Agenda Really Is"

Live Election Map with ticker shows every winner.

Megyn Kelly Joins Trump at His Final PA Rally of 2024 and Explains Why She's Supporting Him

South Carolina Lawmaker at Trump Rally Highlights Story of 3-Year-Old Maddie Hines, Killed by Illegal Alien

GOP Demands Biden, Harris Launch Probe into Twice-Deported Illegal Alien Accused of Killing Grayson Davis

Previously-Deported Illegal Charged With Killing Arkansas Children’s Hospital Nurse in Horror DUI Crash

New Data on Migrant Crime Rates Raises Eyebrows, Alarms

Thousands of 'potentially fraudulent voter registration applications' Uncovered, Stopped in Pennsylvania

Michigan Will Count Ballot of Chinese National Charged with Voting Illegally

"It Did Occur" - Kentucky County Clerk Confirms Voting Booth 'Glitch'' Shifted Trump Votes To Kamala

Legendary Astronaut Buzz Aldrin 'wholeheartedly' Endorses Donald Trump

Liberal Icon Naomi Wolf Endorses Trump: 'He's Being More Inclusive'

(Washed Up Has Been) Singer Joni Mitchell Screams 'F*** Trump' at Hollywood Bowl

"Analysis: The Final State of the Presidential Race"

He’ll, You Pieces of Garbage

The Future of Warfare -- No more martyrdom!

"Kamala’s Inane Talking Points"

"The Harris Campaign Is Testament to the Toxicity of Woke Politics"

Easy Drywall Patch

Israel Preparing NEW Iran Strike? Iran Vows “Unimaginable” Response | Watchman Newscast

In Logansport, Indiana, Kids are Being Pushed Out of Schools After Migrants Swelled County’s Population by 30%: "Everybody else is falling behind"

Exclusive — Bernie Moreno: We Spend $110,000 Per Illegal Migrant Per Year, More than Twice What ‘the Average American Makes’

Florida County: 41 of 45 People Arrested for Looting after Hurricanes Helene and Milton are Noncitizens

Presidential race: Is a Split Ticket the only Answer?

hurricanes and heat waves are Worse

'Backbone of Iran's missile industry' destroyed by IAF strikes on Islamic Republic

Joe Rogan Experience #2219 - Donald Trump

IDF raids Hezbollah Radwan Forces underground bases, discovers massive cache of weapons

Gallant: ‘After we strike in Iran,’ the world will understand all of our training

The Atlantic Hit Piece On Trump Is A Psy-Op To Justify Post-Election Violence If Harris Loses

Six Al Jazeera journalists are Hamas, PIJ terrorists

Judge Aileen Cannon, who tossed Trump's classified docs case, on list of proposed candidates for attorney general

Iran's Assassination Program in Europe: Europe Goes Back to Sleep

Susan Olsen says Brady Bunch revival was cancelled because she’s MAGA.

Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report

Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence.


Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

Opinions/Editorials
See other Opinions/Editorials Articles

Title: These are the 12 worst ideas religion has unleashed on the world
Source: Raw Story
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/ ... on-has-unleashed-on-the-world/
Published: Feb 1, 2015
Author: Valerie Tarico
Post Date: 2015-02-01 09:41:48 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 8038
Comments: 25

Some of humanity’s technological innovations are things we would have been better off without: the medieval rack, the atomic bomb and powdered lead potions come to mind. Religions tend to invent ideas or concepts rather than technologies, but like every other creative human enterprise, they produce some really bad ones along with the good.

I’ve previously highlighted some of humanity’s best moral and spiritual concepts, our shared moral core. Here, by way of contrast, are some of the worst. These twelve dubious concepts promote conflict, cruelty, suffering and death rather than love and peace. To paraphrase Christopher Hitchens, they belong in the dustbin of history just as soon as we can get them there.

Chosen People –The term “Chosen People” typically refers to the Hebrew Bible and the ugly idea that God has given certain tribes a Promised Land (even though it is already occupied by other people). But in reality many sects endorse some version of this concept. The New Testament identifies Christians as the chosen ones. Calvinists talk about “God’s elect,” believing that they themselves are the special few who were chosen before the beginning of time. Jehovah’s witnesses believe that 144,000 souls will get a special place in the afterlife. In many cultures certain privileged and powerful bloodlines were thought to be descended directly from gods (in contrast to everyone else).

googletag.cmd.push(function() { googletag.display('div-gpt-ad-1413913441268-0'); });

Religious sects are inherently tribal and divisive because they compete by making mutually exclusive truth claims and by promising blessings or afterlife rewards that no competing sect can offer. “Gang symbols” like special haircuts, attire, hand signals and jargon differentiate insiders from outsiders and subtly (or not so subtly) convey to both that insiders are inherently superior.

Heretics – Heretics, kafir, or infidels (to use the medieval Catholic term) are not just outsiders, they are morally suspect and often seen as less than fully human. In the Torah, slaves taken from among outsiders don’t merit the same protections as Hebrew slaves. Those who don’t believe in a god are corrupt, doers of abominable deeds. “There is none [among them] who does good,” says the Psalmist.

Islam teaches the concept of “dhimmitude” and provides special rules for the subjugation of religious minorities, with monotheists getting better treatment than polytheists. Christianity blurs together the concepts of unbeliever and evildoer. Ultimately, heretics are a threat that needs to be neutralized by conversion, conquest, isolation, domination, or—in worst cases—mass murder.

Holy War – If war can be holy, anything goes. The medieval Roman Catholic Church conducted a twenty year campaign of extermination against heretical Cathar Christians in the south of France, promising their land and possessions to real Christians who signed on as crusaders. Sunni and Shia Muslims have slaughtered each other for centuries. The Hebrew scriptures recount battle after battle in which their war God, Yahweh, helps them to not only defeat but also exterminate the shepherding cultures that occupy their “Promised Land.” As in later holy wars, like the modern rise of ISIS, divine sanction let them kill the elderly and children, burn orchards, and take virgin females as sexual slaves—all while retaining a sense of moral superiority.

Blasphemy – Blasphemy is the notion that some ideas are inviolable, off limits to criticism, satire, debate, or even question. By definition, criticism of these ideas is an outrage, and it is precisely this emotion–outrage–that the crime of blasphemy evokes in believers. The Bible prescribes death for blasphemers; the Quran does not, but death-to-blasphemers became part of Shariah during medieval times.

The idea that blasphemy must be prevented or avenged has caused millions of murders over the centuries and countless other horrors. As I write, blogger Raif Badawi awaits round after round of flogging in Saudi Arabia—1000 lashes in batches of 50—while his wife and children plead from Canada for the international community to do something.

Glorified suffering – Picture secret societies of monks flogging their own backs. The image that comes to mind is probably from Dan Brown’s novel, The Da Vinci Code, but the idea isn’t one he made up. A core premise of Christianity is that righteous torture—if it’s just intense and prolonged enough–can somehow fix the damage done by evil, sinful behavior. Millions of crucifixes litter the world as testaments to this belief. Shia Muslims beat themselves with lashes and chains during Aashura, a form of sanctified suffering called Matam that commemorates the death of the martyr Hussein. Self-denial in the form of asceticism and fasting is a part of both Eastern and Western religions, not only because deprivation induces altered states but also because people believe suffering somehow brings us closer to divinity.

Our ancestors lived in a world in which pain came unbidden, and people had very little power to control it. An aspirin or heating pad would have been a miracle to the writers of the Bible, Quran, or Gita. Faced with uncontrollable suffering, the best advice religion could offer was to lean in or make meaning of it. The problem, of course is that glorifying suffering—turning it into a spiritual good—has made people more willing to inflict it on not only themselves and their enemies but also those who are helpless, including the ill or dying (as in the case of Mother Teresa and the American Bishops) and children (as in the child beating Patriarchy movement).

Genital mutilation – Primitive people have used scarification and other body modifications to define tribal membership for as long as history records. But genital mutilation allowed our ancestors several additional perks—if you want to call them that. Infant circumcision in Judaism serves as a sign of tribal membership, but circumcision also serves to test the commitment of adult converts. In one Bible story, a chieftain agrees to convert and submit his clan to the procedure as a show of commitment to a peace treaty. (While the men lie incapacitated, the whole town is then slain by the Israelites.)

In Islam, painful male circumcision serves as a rite of passage into manhood, initiation into a powerful club. By contrast, in some Muslim cultures cutting away or burning the female clitoris and labia ritually establishes the submission of women by reducing sexual arousal and agency. An estimated 2 million girls annually are subjected to the procedure, with consequences including hemorrhage, infection, painful urination and death.

Blood sacrifice – In the list of religion’s worst ideas, this is the only one that appears to be in its final stages. Only Hindus continue toritually hack and slaughter sacrificial animals on a mass scale.

When our ancient ancestors slit the throats on humans and animals or cut out their hearts or sent the smoke of sacrifices heavenward, many believed that they were literally feeding supernatural beings. In time, in most religions, the rationale changed—the gods didn’t need feeding so much as they needed signs of devotion and penance. The residual child sacrifice in the Hebrew Bible (yes it is there) typically has this function. Christianity’s persistent focus on blood atonement—the notion of Jesus as the be-all-end-all lamb without blemish, the final “propitiation” for human sin—is hopefully the last iteration of humanity’s long fascination with blood sacrifice.

googletag.cmd.push(function() { googletag.display('div-gpt-ad-1413913441268-1'); });

Hell – Whether we are talking about Christianity, Islam or Buddhism, an afterlife filled with demons, monsters, and eternal torture was the worst suffering the Iron Age minds could conceive and medieval minds could elaborate. Invented, perhaps, as a means to satisfy the human desire for justice, the concept of Hell quickly devolved into a tool for coercing behavior and belief.

Most Buddhists see hell as a metaphor, a journey into the evil inside the self, but the descriptions of torturing monsters  and levels of hell can be quite explicit. Likewise, many Muslims and Christians hasten to assure that it is a real place, full of fire and the anguish of non-believers. Some Christians have gone so far as to insist that the screams of the damned can be heard from the center of the Earth or that observing their anguish from afar will be one of the pleasures of paradise.

Karma – Like hell, the concept of karma offers a selfish incentive for good behavior—it’ll come back at you later—but it has enormous costs. Chief among these is a tremendous weight of cultural passivity in the face of harm and suffering. Secondarily, the idea of karmasanctifies the broad human practice of blaming the victim. If what goes around comes around, then the disabled child or cancer patient or untouchable poor (or the hungry rabbit or mangy dog) must have done something in either this life or a past one to bring their position on themselves.

Eternal Life – To our weary and unwashed ancestors, the idea of gem encrusted walls, streets of gold, the fountain of youth, or an eternity of angelic chorus (or sex with virgins) may have seemed like sheer bliss. But it doesn’t take much analysis to realize how quickly eternal paradise would become hellish—an endless repetition of never changing groundhog days (because how could they change if they were perfect).

The real reason that the notion of eternal life is such a bad invention, though, is the degree to which it diminishes and degrades existence on this earthly plane. With eyes lifted heavenward, we can’t see the intricate beauty beneath our feet. Devout believers put their spiritual energy into preparing for a world to come rather than cherishing and stewarding the one wild and precious world we have been given.

Male Ownership of Female Fertility – The notion of women as brood mares or children as assets likely didn’t originate with religion, but the idea that women were created for this purpose, that if a woman should die of childbearing “she was made to do it,” most certainly did. Traditional religions variously assert that men have a god-ordained right to give women in marriage, take them in war, exclude them from heaven, and kill them if the origins of their offspring can’t be assured. Hence Catholicism’s maniacal obsession with the virginity of Mary and female martyrs.

As we approach the limits of our planetary life support system and stare dystopia in the face, defining women as breeders and children as assets becomes ever more costly. We now know that resource scarcity is a conflict trigger and that demand for water and arable land is growing even as both resources decline. And yet, a pope who claims to care about the desperate poor lectures them against contraceptionwhile Muslim leaders ban vasectomies in a drive to outbreed their enemies.

Bibliolatry (aka Book Worship) – Preliterate people handed down their best guesses about gods and goodness by way of oral tradition, and they made objects of stone and wood, idols, to channel their devotion. Their notions of what was good and what was Real and how to live in moral community with each other were free to evolve as culture and technology changed. But the advent of the written word changed that. As our Iron Age ancestors recorded and compiled their ideas into sacred texts, these texts allowed their understanding of gods and goodness to become static. The sacred texts of Judaism, Christianity and Islam forbid idol worship, but over time the texts themselves became idols, and many modern believers practice—essentially—book worship, also known as bibliolatry.

“Because the faith of Islam is perfect, it does not allow for any innovations to the religion,” says one young Muslim explaining his faith online. His statement betrays a naïve lack of information about the origins of his own dogmas. But more broadly, it sums up the challenge all religions face moving forward. Imagine if a physicist said, “Because our understanding of physics is perfect, it does not allow for any innovations to the field.”

Adherents who think their faith is perfect, are not just naïve or ill informed. They are developmentally arrested, and in the case of the world’s major religions, they are anchored to the Iron Age, a time of violence, slavery, desperation and early death.

Ironically, the mindset that our sacred texts are perfect betrays the very quest that drove our ancestors to write those texts. Each of the men who wrote part of the Bible, Quran, or Gita took his received tradition, revised it, and offered his own best articulation of what is good and real. We can honor the quest of our spiritual ancestors, or we can honor their answers, but we cannot do both.

Religious apologists often try to deny, minimize, or explain away the sins of scripture and the evils of religious history. “It wasn’t really slavery.” “That’s just the Old Testament.” “He didn’t mean it that way.” “You have to understand how bad their enemies were.” “Those people who did harm in the name of God weren’t real [Christians/Jews/Muslims].” Such platitudes may offer comfort, but denying problems doesn’t solve them. Quite the opposite, in fact. Change comes with introspection and insight, a willingness to acknowledge our faults and flaws while still embracing our strengths and potential for growth.

In a world that is teeming with humanity, armed with pipe bombs and machine guns and nuclear weapons and drones, we don’t need defenders of religion’s status quo—we need real reformation, as radical as that of the 16th Century and much, much broader. It is only by acknowledging religion’s worst ideas that we have any hope of embracing the best.

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

#1. To: Willie Green (#0)

How many millions have been murdered because of people who vote for democrats.

If you vote for a democrat you are voting for child murder.

Millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions.

Communism has also killed millions. Stalin. Stalin and Obama have the same ideology. They are both responsible for millions of deaths.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-01   10:00:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Willie Green (#0)

Those who don’t believe in a god are corrupt, doers of abominable deeds.

Amen brother.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-01   10:01:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Willie Green (#0)

Karma – Like hell, the concept of karma offers a selfish incentive for good behavior—

You don't believe that you reap what you sow?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-01   10:02:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Willie Green (#0)

Gee, I'm sorry Willie...The author, Valerie Tarico, is nothing but a Jesus-hating, Christian-bashing, neo-atheist, and lesbian activist with an axe or two to grind.

Her lying ilk have unleashed their own demons upon the world.

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-01   10:10:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Liberator (#4)

So the author is a sex offender. Thanks.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-01   10:11:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#5)

Valarie Tarico is one toxic atheist activist and champion Christian-basher.

Her "About" page with all her wicked rantings:

http://valerietarico.com/about/

One gleeful response at her blog:

Valerie Tarico says:

I just re-read this. Thank you for posting it to my blog. It gives me hope that we may finally move beyond the grasp of toxic, tribal religion. I was intrigued this week by a TED lecture by Alain de Botton entitled “What Can Atheists Learn from Religion?” The key question was whether we can begin to shape social institutions that leverage the communitarian, morality-enhancing aspects of religion without the supernaturalism. http://www.ted.com/talks/alain_de_botton_atheism_2_0.html?utm_source=newsletter_weekly_2012-01-20

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-01   10:48:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Willie Green (#0)

Heretics – ...they are morally suspect and often seen as less than fully human.

Like people who don't support large scale public transit expansion?

"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts

Palmdale  posted on  2015-02-01   10:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#1)

1. How many millions have been murdered because of people who vote for democrats.

2. If you vote for a democrat you are voting for child murder.

1. - Are not those who choose to end a pregnancy and those who perform the act actually the true culprits? Or perhaps the SC justices who ruled for R v W ?

2. What if......the Democrat in question is pro-life? A vote for a pro-life representative is......ideal?

"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.

Jameson  posted on  2015-02-01   14:47:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jameson (#8)

1. - Are not those who choose to end a pregnancy and those who perform the act actually the true culprits? Or perhaps the SC justices who ruled for R v W ?

The majority of the responsibility goes to the mother and the himtman she hired.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-02   19:59:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jameson, vicmonte13 (#8)

What if......the Democrat in question is pro-life?

No such thing as a pro life democrat.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-02   19:59:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#10)

No such thing as a pro life democrat.

My friend, you could not be more wrong.

Millions of American Catholics are both Democrats and Pro-Life.......

"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.

Jameson  posted on  2015-02-02   20:13:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jameson (#11)

My friend, you could not be more wrong.

Millions of American Catholics are both Democrats and Pro-Life.......

If you are truly pro life. You would never vote for a mass murderer like Obama, Clinton etc. They are just plinos

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-02   20:22:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#9)

The majority of the responsibility goes to the mother and the himtman she hired.

...so.... what is a "himtman"???

yeah... so anyway.......

since the majority of the responsibility is on the mother.....and the "himtman".......

The answer to the question:

"How many millions have been murdered because of people who vote for democrats."

must be relatively small.......wouldn't you agree...???

"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.

Jameson  posted on  2015-02-02   20:28:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jameson (#13)

...so.... what is a "himtman"???

Someone hired to murder someone. In this case the womans child.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-02   20:31:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Jameson (#13)

must be relatively small.......wouldn't you agree...???

The democrats assure that they can murder without consequence.

So they are murderers and accessories to murder.

Why do you think it is ok to snuff out an innocent kid?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-02   20:32:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#12)

Millions of American Catholics are both Democrats and Pro-Life.......

So.... do you agree that there are millions of pro-life Democrats?

and our discussion has nothing to do with whether or not I am "truly pro-life" in your opinion......

"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.

Jameson  posted on  2015-02-02   20:35:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#14)

...so.... what is a "himtman"???

You're funny!!!!

"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.

Jameson  posted on  2015-02-02   20:36:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Jameson (#16)

So.... do you agree that there are millions of pro-life Democrats?

I agree that there are millions of people who call themsleves pro life democrats then they vote against pro life and for mass murder. So in my view that isn't pro life.

That is like saying i'm not for gassing the Jews but I will vote for Hitler.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-02   20:37:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Jameson (#17)

...so.... what is a "himtman"??? You're funny!!!!

:)

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-02   20:38:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Jameson (#16)

Here is the deal Jameson. Rhetoric aside. I think it is very wrong to take innocent life. To cut a baby out of your stomach is sick and evil.

They should set up fake abortion clinics. Then when the wannabe murderer comes in. They strap her down and force her to have the kid. Then they try her for attempted murder. Ok the second paragraph does contan a bit of rhetoric.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-02   20:40:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#15)

Why do you think it is ok to snuff out an innocent kid?

Your assumption is ridiculous.... but you know that.

It is wrong to "snuff out" any human life. ....don't you agree?

"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.

Jameson  posted on  2015-02-02   20:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Jameson (#21)

our assumption is ridiculous.... but you know that.

It is wrong to "snuff out" any human life. ....don't you agree?

I apologize for thinking that you are pro death. I could have swore you voted for democrats.

No I don't think it is wrong to snuff out the life of people that murder.

If someone murdered my kids. I wouldn't only kill them I would torture them.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-02   20:48:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Liberator (#6)

I went to her site, and simply left a note as to my certainity in Jesus Christ, His Word, and His claims. If she wants to live life full of doubt that's her choice.

“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org

GarySpFC  posted on  2015-02-02   22:30:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#22)

If someone murdered my kids. I wouldn't only kill them I would torture them.

Me too......then I'd kill them.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-02-02   22:40:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: GarySpFC (#23)

I went to her site, and simply left a note as to my certainity in Jesus Christ, His Word, and His claims.

Sadly she will very likley think that you are a kook. If people such as she do not feel the hand of God when He touches or hears Him knocking on their door they surely will not heed your words.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-02-02   22:42:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Mail]  [Sign-in]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register] 

Please report web page problems, questions and comments to webmaster@libertysflame.com