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Title: That Our Children May Be Born
Source: First Things
URL Source: http://www.firstthings.com/web-excl ... yndrome-and-abortion-extortion
Published: Jan 30, 2015
Author: by Matthew Hennessey
Post Date: 2015-01-30 11:27:28 by redleghunter
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Views: 14468
Comments: 49

A bill before the Indiana state legislature has revived what is becoming a perennial debate: what information should be provided to pregnant women who receive a prenatal diagnosis of Down syndrome? The bill in question proposes to ban abortions due to either the sex of the fetus or a prenatal diagnosis of a genetic difference such as Down syndrome. The law would criminalize the actions of doctors who encourage and perform such abortions, not women who obtain them.

As the parent of a child with Down syndrome, I am watching the debate over this bill with fascination. As someone who believes the prenatal medical profession needs a good whack across the nose on this issue, I can see some value in the legislation. But as someone who lives very far from Indiana, I’m not inclined to get too worked up about it.

However, some of my fellow advocates in the “Down syndrome community” are worked up about it. In the past, I have criticized a vocal group of campaigners for the Lettercase booklet, an informational brochure intended for pregnant women who have received a Down syndrome diagnosis. The Lettercase booklet has caused controversy because it explicitly mentions the possibility of abortion. Many parents, siblings, and friends of people living with Down syndrome view mention of abortion in this context as a betrayal of the work we do together to demonstrate the value of such lives. That the booklet is supposedly meant to convince vulnerable women that life with Down syndrome is “not so bad” makes the abortion mention seem all the more out-of-place.

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The pro-information team wants pro-lifers like me to fully digest and make peace with the fact that abortion is legal. But I want them to realize that we are in the midst of a bitter battle for the rights of our children to be born at all. And while there are many fine doctors in the world, the medical professional organizations that refuse to sign off on informational pamphlets that don’t explicitly mention abortion don’t deserve our compliance. They deserve contempt.Matthew Hennessey (from above article)

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#28. To: redleghunter (#0)

That Our Children May Be Born

In a society with catch as catch can sex for a night or two nights, the babies made in the process must be just as disposable as the partners. In a society which has adopted a social psychology in which close committed long term heterosexual relationships are improbable or nearly impossible, casual abortion is the inevitable consequence.

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#32. To: rlk, GarySpFc, liberator (#28)

In a society with catch as catch can sex for a night or two nights, the babies made in the process must be just as disposable as the partners. In a society which has adopted a social psychology in which close committed long term heterosexual relationships are improbable or nearly impossible, casual abortion is the inevitable consequence.

An astute observation.

Now how did this come about and so quickly? How did our nation's morals and values decline? What was the glue which was undone?

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#37. To: redleghunter (#32)

Now how did this come about and so quickly?

I wasn't so quickly. It goes back more than 90 years to the Frankfurt School at Frankfurt iniversity in Germany under Lucacs, which together with Gramsci in Italy declared a necessary war on Western Civilization (including Christianity)with eventual adoption of communism as a substitute. Their hue ad cry became, "Who will save us from Western sivilization." Most of the Frankfurt School faculty were wealthy Jews who had to leave Germany with Hitler chasing about two steps behind them intending to crack their heads. They immigrated to America in about 1933. Some of them restarted their school in NYC. Others were immediately welcomed by the top universities in America along with their line of thought. Christian thinking was inadaquate to confront them, and the result was a complete intellectual rout with the Frankurt schoolers taking over unopposed.

In the 50s Marcuse, one of the original Frankfurters, then a professor at Columbia wrote a book entitled "Eros and Civilization" which eventually filtered down to influence a generation. Marcuse became known as the "father of the New Left" in America.

I am no longer in a condition of health to give a lecture. If you want to learn more, I will post here a lecture that I was going to have somebody else give before a Tea Party to upgrade them. You can also look up Lind on cultural marxism by doing a google.

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#38. To: rlk (#37)

Thanks good laydown. I am familiar with the Frankfurt School but more familiar with its theological companion. That would be the German liberal theological centers in the mid 19th to early 20th century. One such liberal university was the Tubingen.

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#41. To: redleghunter (#38)

Thanks good laydown.

A full laydown is 20 pages.

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