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Mexican Invasion
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Title: The libertarian platforn vis a vis ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.lp.org/issues/immigration
Published: Jan 29, 2015
Author: LP Party Platform
Post Date: 2015-01-29 17:04:05 by Vinny
Keywords: None
Views: 23704
Comments: 61

www.lp.org/issues/immigration

Low-skilled immigrants cross the Mexican border illegally or overstay their visas for a simple reason: There are jobs waiting here for them to fill, especially in Texas and other, faster growing states. Each year our economy creates hundreds of thousands of net new jobs — in such sectors as retail, cleaning, food preparation, construction and tourism — that require only short-term, on-the-job training.

At the same time, the supply of Americans who have traditionally filled many of those jobs — those without a high school diploma — continues to shrink. Their numbers have declined by 4.6 million in the past decade, as the typical American worker becomes older and better educated.

Yet our system offers no legal channel for anywhere near a sufficient number of peaceful, hardworking immigrants to legally enter the United States even temporarily to fill this growing gap. The predictable result is illegal immigration.

In response, we can spend billions more to beef up border patrols. We can erect hundreds of miles of ugly fence slicing through private property along the Rio Grande. We can raid more discount stores and chicken-processing plants from coast to coast. We can require all Americans to carry a national ID card and seek approval from a government computer before starting a new job.

Or we can change our immigration law to more closely conform to how millions of normal people actually live.

Crossing an international border to support your family and pursue dreams of a better life is not an inherently criminal act like rape or robbery. If it were, then most of us descend from criminals. As the people of Texas know well, the large majority of illegal immigrants are not bad people. They are people who value family, faith and hard work trying to live within a bad system.

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#1. To: Vinny, Y'ALL (#0)

These are the key concepts of american libertarianism: ----

libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...t.cgi?ArtNum=37402&Disp=0

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-29   17:09:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: tpaine (#1)

Clicked on the link and was greeted by the word Forbidden.

Seems about right for a political philosophy that embraces the flooding of our nation with illegals.

Vinny  posted on  2015-01-29   17:26:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Vinny (#2)

Seems about right for a political philosophy that embraces the flooding of our nation with illegals.

Yup. It does appear so, doesn't it?

The official position of the Libertarian Party endorses the illegal invasion AND occupation of the USA. You bolded it the below -- How many lies and false premises do we see?:

"Crossing an international border to support your family and pursue dreams of a better life is not an inherently criminal act like rape or robbery.(LIE -- violating the soverignty of a nation and its citizenry without proper authority IS criminal.)

If it were, then most of us descend from criminals. (LIE -- the vast majority of Americans from the 1880s and on were compelled to follow an official process for citizenship.)

As the people of Texas know well, the large majority of illegal immigrants are not bad people. (CRIME STATS DO NOT LIE. Those who remain on US land and steal US services and resources without authority or respect for the proper process and prcedure are THIEVES.)

They are people who value family, faith and hard work trying to live within a bad system." (LIE. Thieves and pirates lack "values." And dishonor and disrespect American values and sovereighty.)

Liberator  posted on  2015-01-29   19:12:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Liberator (#16)

#16. Isn't it ironic that Obama, and every other leftist, holds the exact same position on illegals?

Vinny  posted on  2015-01-29   19:42:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Vinny (#26)

#16. Isn't it ironic that Obama, and every other leftist, holds the exact same position on illegals?

Sad but true.

I just checked out this essay by the author. I'm not sure if this nonsense is just his opinion, or the official Libertarian Party position.

More from his essay (it gets scarier):

"Immigration is not the only area of American life where a misguided law has collided with reality. In the 1920s and '30s, Prohibition turned millions of otherwise law-abiding Americans into lawbreakers and spawned an underworld of moon-shining, boot-legging and related criminal activity. (Sound familiar?) We eventually made the right choice to tax and regulate alcohol rather than prohibit it.

HUH?? Comparing the Illegal Invasion to...the Prohibition Days?? Baaad analogy.

"In the 19th century, America's frontier was settled largely by illegal squatters. In his influential book on property rights, The Mystery of Capital, economist Hernando de Soto describes how these so-called extralegals began to farm, mine and otherwise improve land to which they did not have strict legal title...."

Again, the LP author fails miserably. "Illegal squatters"? On whose land or were they "squatting? Prarie dogs? Buffalos? And whose jobs and from whose public trough were they stealing?

The 1800s was a period when American was still expanding and growing, the "extralegals" helped developed and settle a new nation. They did NOT steal and covet thy neighbor's land and goods.

The Libertarian official site endorses such an author? Yes, he might even be qualified to work as 0buma's "Immigration Czar."

Liberator  posted on  2015-01-29   20:01:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Liberator (#31)

Those analogies are absurd. Their position on illegals is nothing short of Obama open border anarchy; the worst effects are yet to be seen. If I were in a room with a libertarian, given this position, I'd get up and leave.

Vinny  posted on  2015-01-29   20:08:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Vinny (#32)

Absurd and insane and delusional revisionism.

So are we to conclude that now even the LP is sold out/hijacked, along with the Dems and Pubbies?

Who or what's left to represent us? (rhetorical)

Liberator  posted on  2015-01-29   20:30:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Liberator (#39)

Who or what's left to represent us? (rhetorical)

In the end many of those with a lifetime of sound judgement will roll off the rails.

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