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Title: The libertarian platforn vis a vis ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.lp.org/issues/immigration
Published: Jan 29, 2015
Author: LP Party Platform
Post Date: 2015-01-29 17:04:05 by Vinny
Keywords: None
Views: 26176
Comments: 61

www.lp.org/issues/immigration

Low-skilled immigrants cross the Mexican border illegally or overstay their visas for a simple reason: There are jobs waiting here for them to fill, especially in Texas and other, faster growing states. Each year our economy creates hundreds of thousands of net new jobs — in such sectors as retail, cleaning, food preparation, construction and tourism — that require only short-term, on-the-job training.

At the same time, the supply of Americans who have traditionally filled many of those jobs — those without a high school diploma — continues to shrink. Their numbers have declined by 4.6 million in the past decade, as the typical American worker becomes older and better educated.

Yet our system offers no legal channel for anywhere near a sufficient number of peaceful, hardworking immigrants to legally enter the United States even temporarily to fill this growing gap. The predictable result is illegal immigration.

In response, we can spend billions more to beef up border patrols. We can erect hundreds of miles of ugly fence slicing through private property along the Rio Grande. We can raid more discount stores and chicken-processing plants from coast to coast. We can require all Americans to carry a national ID card and seek approval from a government computer before starting a new job.

Or we can change our immigration law to more closely conform to how millions of normal people actually live.

Crossing an international border to support your family and pursue dreams of a better life is not an inherently criminal act like rape or robbery. If it were, then most of us descend from criminals. As the people of Texas know well, the large majority of illegal immigrants are not bad people. They are people who value family, faith and hard work trying to live within a bad system.

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#1. To: Vinny, Y'ALL (#0)

These are the key concepts of american libertarianism: ----

libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...t.cgi?ArtNum=37402&Disp=0

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-29   17:09:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: tpaine (#1)

Clicked on the link and was greeted by the word Forbidden.

Seems about right for a political philosophy that embraces the flooding of our nation with illegals.

Vinny  posted on  2015-01-29   17:26:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Vinny (#2)

Seems about right for a political philosophy that embraces the flooding of our nation with illegals.

Yup. It does appear so, doesn't it?

The official position of the Libertarian Party endorses the illegal invasion AND occupation of the USA. You bolded it the below -- How many lies and false premises do we see?:

"Crossing an international border to support your family and pursue dreams of a better life is not an inherently criminal act like rape or robbery.(LIE -- violating the soverignty of a nation and its citizenry without proper authority IS criminal.)

If it were, then most of us descend from criminals. (LIE -- the vast majority of Americans from the 1880s and on were compelled to follow an official process for citizenship.)

As the people of Texas know well, the large majority of illegal immigrants are not bad people. (CRIME STATS DO NOT LIE. Those who remain on US land and steal US services and resources without authority or respect for the proper process and prcedure are THIEVES.)

They are people who value family, faith and hard work trying to live within a bad system." (LIE. Thieves and pirates lack "values." And dishonor and disrespect American values and sovereighty.)

Liberator  posted on  2015-01-29   19:12:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Liberator --- Libertarians are diligently plotting to take over the world, in order to leave you alone (#16)

You've allied yourself with the anti-libertarian loonies? For shame.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-29   19:21:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: tpaine (#21)

You've allied yourself with the anti-libertarian loonies? For shame.

I allied myself with...The Truth. Even Broken Clock "allies."

Is THIS an official LP platform position? OR one individual's personal opinion? Because it sure doesn't sound "Constitutuional":

"Crossing an international border to support your family and pursue dreams of a better life is not an inherently criminal act like rape or robbery. If it were, then most of us descend from criminals. As the people of Texas know well, the large majority of illegal immigrants are not bad people. They are people who value family, faith and hard work trying to live within a bad system."

Liberator  posted on  2015-01-29   19:37:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Liberator (#23)

You've allied yourself with the anti-libertarian loonies? For shame.

I allied myself with...The Truth. Even Broken Clock "allies."

Your allies are bashing ALL libertarians not just the Libertarian Party.

Is THIS an official LP platform position? OR one individual's personal opinion? Because it sure doesn't sound "Constitutuional": --- "Crossing an international border to support your family and pursue dreams of a better life is not an inherently criminal act like rape or robbery. If it were, then most of us descend from criminals. As the people of Texas know well, the large majority of illegal immigrants are not bad people. They are people who value family, faith and hard work trying to live within a bad system."

I don't care, as I've never been a member of that Party. I agree with the principles outlined in the article I posted from the Cato Institute.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-29   19:49:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: tpaine (#29)

Your allies are bashing ALL libertarians not just the Libertarian Party.

I don't speak for anyone but myself.

On the issue of the Illegal Invasion, a Libertarian posting from the official Libertarian Party website is...PRO-ILLEGAL INVASION.

Did you even read this Libertarian author's essay, obvious endorsed by the official Libertarian Party site? He's a statist who is crapping all over the constitution, engaging is American revisionismy, and slandering and maligning the American settlers and who developed America. The guy is an enemy of the US and spirit of the US Constitution.

I've never been a member of that [Libertarian] Party. I agree with the principles outlined in the article I posted from the Cato Institute.

Well then -- I'm critical of the LP's "guest" author and opinion, so you shouldn't take my criticism as an indictment of all libertariam positions. Btw, you should be as disturbed as I am over this.

Liberator  posted on  2015-01-29   20:09:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Liberator (#33)

On the issue of the Illegal Invasion, a Libertarian posting from the official Libertarian Party website is...PRO-ILLEGAL INVASION.

When it comes to trade and immigration America's ruling oligarchy is libertarian. We need nationalism that puts America and Americans first.

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-01-29   20:15:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: nativist nationalist (#35)

When it comes to trade and immigration America's ruling oligarchy is libertarian. We need nationalism that puts America and Americans first.

Or have the ruling class oligarchs set the table for an inevitable societal chaos & anarchy so that they can suspend/dump the entire pesky constituion/Bill of Rights thingy?

Late in the game, but yep, we'd desperately needed an America-First nationaism (and real President) we haven't seen since Reagan handed over the reigns to Poppy "New World Order" Arbusto. Marking the End Game was the "Mission Accomplished" of 9/11.

Liberator  posted on  2015-01-29   20:25:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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