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Title: Cops Shutdown High School Kids Trying to Earn Money by Shoveling Snow
Source: Free Thought Project
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/co ... ids-earn-money-shoveling-snow/
Published: Jan 28, 2015
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2015-01-29 03:10:32 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 25624
Comments: 77

In America, “Land of Opportunity,” you are free to pursue your dreams of financial freedom, provided you have filled out the proper form and been extorted by the proper bureaucrat.

Two teenage boys from Bridgewater, New Jersey are getting a hard does of this statism after their pursuance of financial freedom landed them in hot water with the fuzz.

Earlier this week, Matt Molinari and his friend Eric Schnepf, both seniors in High School, were going door-to-door advertising their snow shoveling services in advance of the storm. School was out, and instead of sitting inside and playing XBOX, these two young entrepreneurs felt the fire of enterprise and decided to turn their down time into an actual dime.

However, Molinari and Schnepf apparently didn’t realize that in order to make a dime you have to pay a quarter — to the state. When the two boys were out trying to rustle up some business during what they saw as an opportunity, along came the uniformed agents of the state, to put this unapproved business venture out to pasture.

“We weren’t looking to break the law. We just didn’t know the law,” Molinari tells Jim Smith on his WCBS 880 radio show.

The cops then gave these two kids a lesson in statist economics, which consequently ended their high school snow shoveling business.

“They need a permit, unpermitted solicitation is not allowed,” Molinari said, recalling what the police told them.

In this particular county, anyone selling goods and services door to door must apply for a license that can cost as much as $450 for permission that is valid for only 180 days; after all freedom ain’t free.

“We don’t make the laws but we have to uphold them,” Police Chief Michael Jannone said Tuesday, in true statist fashion, after reading some of the online comments about the incident.

The teens’ story quickly started gaining traction in a local Bound Brook Facebook group after a resident witnessed police shaking down Schnepf after going to his door.

“Are you kidding me? Our generation does nothing but complain about his generation being lazy and not working for their money,” he wrote on Bound Brook NJ Events‘ page. “Here’s a couple kids who take the time to print up flyers, walk door to door in the snow, and then shovel snow for some spending money. And someone calls the cops and they’re told to stop?”

The two teens have, rightfully so, been met with loads of support.

After being questioned by reporters and seeing the backlash against them, the Bound Brook police chief did some back peddling and told MyCentralJersey.com they are not cracking down on kids shoveling, but rather that it was a state of emergency and should not have been out.

Unfortunately the young entrepreneurial spirit is often stomped into a sad puddle in this land of the ostensibly free. Similar bans around the country have nixed the learning stages of free enterprise by putting an end to practices such as lemonade stands and selling Girl Scouts cookies.

In October of 2013, The Free Thought Project reported on the incident in Washington DC in which dozens of cops were dispatched, not because there were armed gunman threatening to kill hostages, or because of a bomb threat, or riot, but because a group of rowdy kids would dare sell lemonade, without a permit.

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#2. To: Deckard (#0)

“We don’t make the laws but we have to uphold them,” Police Chief Michael Jannone said Tuesday, in true statist fashion, after reading some of the online comments about the incident.

High-density areas like NJ have these laws to stop bums from harassing homeowners. Otherwise, they can wander around pestering people any time they want.

It isn't a constitutional right to make a sales pitch for your services on someone's front step.

It brings to mind FNC's constant bitching over lemonade stands. They have at least one major snit every year over kids selling lemonade, often in high-traffic venues where all other food vendors have to be licensed and inspected.

The place to change laws is in your legislature, not by whining about the cops enforcing the laws. But there is little support for changing these laws because they were passed for a reason.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-29   5:22:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TooConservative, Deckard (#2)

High-density areas like NJ have these laws to stop bums from harassing homeowners. Otherwise, they can wander around pestering people any time they want.

It isn't a constitutional right to make a sales pitch for your services on someone's front step.

Congress shall make NO LAW respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; OR ABRIDGING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The State constitutions are the same regarding freedom of speech. A law requiring them to register in order to talk to people is clearly unconstitutional. Because NO law means NO law.

The person could put up a no soliciting sign or no trespassing sign. Then they wouldn't be "bothered". The government licensing this is plainly a violation of the first amendment.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-29   6:54:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: A K A Stone (#19)

A law requiring them to register in order to talk to people is clearly unconstitutional.

In public, yes.

Not in their homes and private property.

Protected speech ends at your property line.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-29   12:06:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: TooConservative (#44)

Protected speech ends at your property line.

The person can put up a sign. But it isn't against the law to walk across the lawn to ask a question.

Once the person makes a sales pitch or starts talking. The homeowner can tell them to leave.

It isn't default you can't talk to someone because they live on private property.

Remember there can constitutionally be "no law".

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-29   13:53:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: A K A Stone (#46)

You have an elevated notion about the absolutism of free speech.

It isn't as absolute as you like to think it is. The law often tolerates regulation at the state or local level when it would forbid the same activity by the feds.

States and local government have a certain leeway in regulating speech. You may recall how the pols in both parties have taken to "designated protest areas" for major events like political conventions. So the protesters end up a mile from the convention inside a chain link fence, protesting all they want. And it is tolerated by the courts.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-29   14:26:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: TooConservative (#48)

You have an elevated notion about the absolutism of free speech. --- It isn't as absolute as you like to think it is. The law often tolerates regulation at the state or local level when it would forbid the same activity by the feds.

Would you agree that both State and Fed govts are limited by our Constitution?

States and local government have a certain leeway in regulating speech. You may recall how the pols in both parties have taken to "designated protest areas" for major events like political conventions. So the protesters end up a mile from the convention inside a chain link fence, protesting all they want. And it is tolerated by the courts.

The key words are "tolerated by the courts". No such leeway should be tolerated in unconstitutionally regulating away our inalienable rights.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-29   14:41:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: tpaine (#51)

Would you agree that both State and Fed govts are limited by our Constitution?

The states somewhat less so than the feds.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-29   14:51:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: TooConservative (#52)

Would you agree that both State and Fed govts are limited by our Constitution?

The states somewhat less so than the feds.

That is the contention of many that claim states have such rights, whereas our Constitution clearly says otherwise in Section 1 of the 14th.

Do you have any contrary proof?

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-29   15:07:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: tpaine (#54)

You seem to wave our Constitution around as if it has any application in one's daily life, or in matters of state. I'd suggest it has been, and continues to be intentional ignored and doesn't pose as much as a speed bump to state, local and federal government. This practice dates back to Lincoln and in hit a zenith with the creation of the FED in 1913.

Vinny  posted on  2015-01-29   15:36:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#56. To: Vinny (#55)

You seem to wave our Constitution around as if it has any application in one's daily life, or in matters of state.

You seem to post as if our Constitution shouldn't have any such applications. Haven't you ever sworn an oath to protect and defend it? If not, why not?

I'd suggest it has been, and continues to be intentional ignored and doesn't pose as much as a speed bump to state, local and federal government. This practice dates back to Lincoln and in hit a zenith with the creation of the FED in 1913.

I'd suggest you seem to approve of this insanity. Why?

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