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Title: Man Faces Jail After Not Paying Child Support For a Child He’s Proven is Not His
Source: Free Thought Project/WXYZ
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/ma ... il-paying-child-support-child/
Published: Jan 26, 2015
Author: John Vibes
Post Date: 2015-01-26 09:02:50 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 4685
Comments: 24

Detroit, Michigan – man named Carnell Alexander from Detroit is facing jail time because he didn’t pay child support for a child that isn’t his.

According to news outlet WXYZ, Alexander has DNA tests which prove that he is not the parent of the child. However, since the mother filled out his name on welfare paperwork, the state says that he is the father of the child in their records and that he owes $30,000 in back child support.

“I’m almost homeless. I’m almost in jail. I am out of work, my money is being threatened to be taken. We can be defaulted into being a father of a child that is not ours. I don’t understand that law, but it is the law in place,” Alexander said.

In one positive twist to the story, Michigan attorney Cherika Harris found out about Alexander’s case on the news, and has offered her legal services to help give him a better chance at freedom.

“I’m just trying to help him with his future,” Harris told reporters.

At Alexander’s most recent court date last Friday, he was threatened with jail time, but was not taken into custody.

The judge said that his case was still open, and that he would be facing prison if he did not pay the amount that he has been ordered to. For now he is free, but he still has the threat of jail hanging over him until he is able to come up with the money that the government says he owes.


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#5. To: Deckard (#0)

"This is a case that started in the late eighties. An ex-girlfriend of Carnell’s had a baby. She needed help providing for the child. She was told that in order to get welfare she had to name a dad on paperwork. She put down Carnell’s name.

The state then started a paternity case against Carnell to collect money for the assistance provided."

My question is this, did this fellow receive, use and spend, tax funded welfare checks based on the false reporting that was the father, to get welfare?

If so, he owes the state money he received... if he can't pay it, he should rot in jail.

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-01-26   17:41:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: GrandIsland, Deckard (#5)

Yep.

He was arrested and taken to jail for failing to pay $60,000 in child support.

But after looking at the case, a judge agreed to erase the back child support owed to the ex-girlfriend, but did not erase the debt owed to the state.

The debt owed to the state is more than $30,000 for welfare benefits received over the years.

He was apparently was living with his ex-girlfriend while the state was paying welfare benefits to her.

There is always MORE to the story than Deckard wants known.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-26   18:37:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Gatlin (#6)

There is always MORE to the story than Deckard wants known.

Yep.

"The judge said he will not go to jail for now. She put the case on hold until next month so Attorney Harris could have a chance to argue that he should not be responsible for the child support bill."

Not that facts matter to the hysterics.

Detroit man turns himself in after not paying child support for a child that is not his

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-26   19:28:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Palmdale (#8)

"The judge said he will not go to jail for now.

The guy provided a DNA test that proved the child wasn't his.

Yet you seem to believe he should jump through more hoops.

Deckard  posted on  2015-01-26   19:48:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Deckard, Palmdale (#9)

The guy provided a DNA test that proved the child wasn't his.

After looking at the case, a judge agreed to erase the back ($60k) child support owed to the ex-girlfriend, but did not erase the debt owed to the state.

He owes the state for $30k his girlfriend took from the state while he was living with her.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-26   19:54:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Gatlin, GrandIsland, Paldale, A K A Stone, ALL (#11)

GrandIsland:

--My question is this, did this fellow receive, use and spend, tax funded welfare checks based on the false reporting that was --the father, to get welfare?

--If so, he owes the state money he received... if he can't pay it, he should rot in jail.

Gatlin:

--After looking at the case, a judge agreed to erase the back ($60k) child support owed to the ex-girlfriend, but did not erase --the debt owed to the state.

--He owes the state for $30k his girlfriend took from the state while he was living with her.

Palmdale:

--There is always MORE to the story than Deckard wants known.

--Yep.

You are right, there is always more to the story, sometimes more than we care to uncover.

The story below uncovers more evidence that the state is unyielding in its attempts to squeeze a man for more that is warranted.

If all the facts are true and corroborated, some bottom-feeding lawyer will show up to help Mr. Carnell sue Detroit back into the Stone Ages. Yet I suspect there are a few more "discoveries" to be made about this story...

DETROIT - The State of Michigan is ordering a Detroit man to pay tens of thousands of dollars, or go to prison. The reason? He owes back child support for a child that everyone agrees is not his.

"I feel like I’m standing in front of a brick wall with nowhere to go," said Carnell Alexander.

He says he learned about the paternity case against him during a traffic stop in Detroit in the early 90s. The officer told him he is a deadbeat dad, there was a warrant out for his arrest.

“I knew I didn’t have a child, so I was kind of blown back,” said Alexander.

The state said he fathered a child in 1987, and ignored a court order to pay up. It was the first Carnell had heard of the court order. He'd never even met the child.

“And when you were telling them in court – that it was not my child?" "They told me it was too late to get a DNA test," said Alexander.

It also was not easy to get a DNA test. Alexander didn't know where the woman was that had claimed he fathered a child. He only had an 8th-grade education, off-and-on employment at the time, and no money to hire help.

He asked the court for help, but the court couldn't help him in the way he was asking. Friend of the Court employees are not allowed to give legal advice.

Alexander explained to the judge and court again and again his situation. He says in hindsight, he didn't understand the formal legal steps necessary to make things right.

Eventually he, by chance, ran into someone he knew would know where the woman was, and got a DNA test. It proved what he had been saying all along: the child he had never met was not his.

The mother had realized that, and the real father was in the child's life. Alexander took this information to court. The judge was unmoved.

“Case closed. I gotta pay for the baby,” said Alexander.

The court focused on a summons tied to the paternity case in the late 1980's. The state sent a process server to Alexander’s dad’s house in Highland Park to let him know about the paternity case. The process server turned a document into the court saying Alexander was delivered the summons, but he refused to sign the summons.

"I wasn’t there. I couldn’t refuse to sign," said Alexander.

RTV6 sister station 7 Action News checked his story with the Michigan Department of Corrections. Their records confirm Alexander's story -- he did not receive that order at a home in Highland Park. He was in prison for a crime he committed as a young man.

“I had no knowledge that I had a child support case against me," he says.

So why was there a case at all?

Carnell's ex had a baby, and didn't know who the father was. She was struggling to care for the child. When she applied for state assistance, the case worker told her she had to name the father.

"That was the only way I could get assistance," she told 7 Action News.

She said she didn't realize the state would go after the father to pay the support given to the child.

“Everything is my fault, that I put him through,” she said.

She asked the court to forgive his debt. They forgave the portion of child support allocated for her, but not the other half. Alexander still owes about $30,000 to the state.

He has refused to pay, and now is being threatened with legal consequences.

7 Action News spoke to workers at Friend of the Court. They could not talk about Alexander's case specifically. They say many people don't understand how to handle their cases, because it is a court. They recommend people promptly address issues in their cases with the help of an attorney.

Alexander says at one point he did hire an attorney, but it did not help him. Taking a look at his case, one attorney says it appears no motion was ever filed to declare that the summons that was not delivered to him is null and void. Alexander could try that.

Alexander says the process shouldn't be so bureaucratic and hard to figure out.

“We know this is not my child so let’s do what we need to do, what’s right,” said Alexander.

www.theindychannel.com/ne...l-for-kid-that-is-not-his

TheFireBert  posted on  2015-01-26   20:56:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: TheFireBert (#20)

The way you put it. I would definately side with the man. In fact if this is true. I would be tempted to kick the judges ass or worse.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-26   21:09:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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