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Title: Walker vs. Cruz on Gay Marriage
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URL Source: http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/ru ... er-vs-ted-cruz-on-gay-marriage
Published: Jan 25, 2015
Author: David Catanese
Post Date: 2015-01-25 19:24:28 by A K A Stone
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Views: 3475
Comments: 10

While Scott Walker wants to move on, Ted Cruz plans to fight.

In a nutshell, those are the battle lines being drawn over gay marriage among the 2016 GOP presidential aspirants.

[READ: Supreme Court Greenlights Gay Marriage]

After the Supreme Court punted on state rulings, how to define legal matrimony again veered into sharp focus, with two polar opposite approaches being outlined by the Wisconsin governor from a blue state and a Texas senator from a deep red one.

“For us, it’s over in Wisconsin,” Walker acknowledged, citing the high court move that means a lower court decision to accept gay marriage in his state is the final word on the subject.

And Walker, who faces re-election in four weeks, seems content with the finality on the topic.

“I’d rather be talking in the future now more about our jobs plan and our plan for the future of the state. I think that’s what matters to the kids. It’s not this issue,” he says.

If Walker finds himself reprising that answer on a Republican presidential primary debate stage sometime next year, expect a thunderous response from Cruz, who in two short years in the U.S. Senate has already made himself a favorite of social conservatives.

Cruz blasted the Supreme Court’s decision not to weigh in on the issue as “astonishing” and “indefensible,” and has previously introduced legislation to protect the authority of state legislatures to define marriage. He also plans to introduce a constitutional amendment to prevent Congress or the court from striking down bans on same-sex marriage imposed by states.

“Traditional marriage is an institution whose integrity and vitality are critical to the health of any society. We should remain faithful to our moral heritage and never hesitate to defend it,” he wrote.

[ALSO: At Value Voters Summit, Ted Cruz Hits His Mark]

The Cruz-Walker split encompasses what likely will be a larger debate within the Republican Party next year on how to best wrangle with divisive social issues that stymie the GOP’s ability to grow.

As a slate of judges knocked down gay marriage bans, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie joined Walker in signaling surrender. But Govs. Rick Perry, R- Texas, Bobby Jindal, R-La., and Mike Pence, R-Ind., showed a willingness to carry on the fight, much like Cruz.

While on its face, the Cruz position looks more attractive to the base, polls consistently show a generational divide on the issue, even among Republicans. Younger GOPers are more inclined to favor gay marriage than older ones.

Walker can attempt to make an argument based on pragmatism – that he remains personally opposed to gay marriage and fought for it as hard as he could, but is only accepting reality.

But it’ll be a steep climb with social conservatives, many who feel their Christian culture is under assault and see Cruz as an unwavering defender of their beliefs.

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

A K A Stone >> Published: Jan 25, 2015
Real Date of Article >> Oct. 7, 2014 | 11:17 a.m. EDT

Walker, who faces re-election in four weeks

NEWS FLASH:

Walker WON! He's no longer facing re-election anytime soon.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-25   19:40:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Anyone (#0) (Edited)

What is Walker's position on gay marriage?

Has he ever stated that he is in favor of gay marriage?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-25   19:41:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Gatlin (#2)

What is Walker's position on gay marriage?

Has he ever stated that he is in favor of gay marriage?

“For us, it’s over in Wisconsin,”

He is throwing in the towel.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-25   19:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#3) (Edited)

He is throwing in the towel.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker: Though he's long said he believes marriage is between one man and one woman, in 2014 Walker stopped fighting a court ruling that allowed same-sex marriage in his state.

"For us, it's over in Wisconsin," Walker said then. "The federal courts have ruled that this decision by this court of appeals decision is the law of the land and we will be upholding it."

What can he do?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-25   20:11:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Gatlin (#4)

What can he do?

Ignore the feds. 10th amendment.

Pass a new law.

Consult with people smarter then him on his next move.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-25   20:18:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Gatlin (#4)

To quote a great man

That which is not just, is not Law; and that which is not Law, ought not to be obeyed.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-25   20:27:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#5)

What can he do?

Ignore the feds. 10th amendment.

Pass a new law.

Consult with people smarter then him on his next move.

Will not everything he can do, or cannot do, rest with what the Supreme Court decides on to resolve the national debate over same-sex marriage once and for all when they will hear 2 1/2 hours of oral arguments in April and issue a ruling before the current term ends in late June.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-25   20:34:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Gatlin (#7)

Not true. Apparently Jindal isn't a wuss either.

www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/25/bobby-jindal-gay- marriage_n_6541920.html

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-25   20:45:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Gatlin (#7) (Edited)

The video isn't embedding.

www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/25/bobby-jindal-gay- marriage_n_6541920.html

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-25   20:45:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#8) (Edited)

Not true. Apparently Jindal isn't a wuss either.
www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/25/bobby-jindal-gay- marriage_n_6541920.html

Jindal said: “I certainly will support Ted Cruz and others that are talking about making ... a constitutional amendment to allow states to continue to define marriage.”

Jindal is supporting someone “talking” about a constitutional amendment….that’s nice.

So far, all Ted Cruz is doing is “talking.”

Here Ted Cruz goes again with more talking when he spoke to the Washington Blade earlier this week, repeating his idea there needs to be an amendment to protect marriage between men and women.

Ted Cruz: “You know what, talk is cheap. The word tells us you shall know them by their fruits ... Look every candidate in the eye and say 'Don't talk, show me.'"

Okay, Cruz, here’s looking at you….don’t talk, show me!

Okay Jindal, here’s looking at you….don’t tell me you are supporting someone talking, show me what you are doing.

Do I like Cruz and Jindal talking and doing nothing, or do I like walker keeping quiet and doing nothing? In a multiple choice answer, mark me down as “none of the above."

“The focus should not be on talking. Talk is cheap. It must be on action.” ~ Howard Berman

I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. And when I see someone that can do something to have it this way, then I will get behind them. In the meantime, politicians “talking” does nothing for me.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-25   21:24:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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