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Title: So, you claim to be a Born Again Christian
Source: ChristianPatriot.com
URL Source: [None]
Published: Jan 23, 2015
Author: Pastor Bob Celeste for ACP
Post Date: 2015-01-23 12:29:48 by BobCeleste
Keywords: Salvation, Christianity
Views: 38257
Comments: 90

Friday, January 23, 2015 Remember me,

Salvation, John 3:3

So, you claim to be a Born Again Christian, fine, but are you?

Are you one of the many, who while professing to be Born Again find nothing wrong with homosexual sex? Are you amongst the 49% who believe there is nothing wrong with two people living together outside of marriage? Are you part of the one out of three that find the killing of a baby trapped in the womb to be morally acceptable? Are you part of the group that believe that Jesus is your friend and not your master? Are you one of the over 50% who say the Jesus did not live a sinless life, deny the virgin birth, or deny absolute truth of the Bible? Well, if you said yes to any of the above, you are not Saved and going to hell.

Let me paraphrase John 3:3 for you, "Be Born Again or go to hell!" Yes that is a perfect paraphrase of John 3:3.

Now let's look at the Greek word philos, pronounced fee'-los, it means dear, i.e. a friend. It is found 27 times in the New Testament, in not one of those verses is it found in reference to Jesus, not once do we find anyone in the New Testament calling Jesus "friend". Not one of the Apostles call the Lord friend. James, the half brother of the Lord referred to himself as "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ". Not James, the half brother of the Lord, but James the servant of the Lord.

In the Greek it is, James [Iakobos], a servant [doulos] of God [theos] and [kai] of the Lord [Kurios] Jesus [Iesous] Christ [Christos]... The Greek word doulos, pronounced doo'-los means, a slave (literal or figurative, involuntary or voluntary; frequently, therefore in a qualified sense of subjection or subserviency):--bond(-man), servant. Not a friend, not a half brother, but slave, bond servant, obeyer of all orders and commands given by the Lord Jesus. Yet over fifty percent of all those calling themselves Born Again, claim that Jesus is their friend, not their master, but their friend, not their owner, but their friend. So, how could they have given their life to the Lord? How can they be Born Again? And if they are not truly Born Again, how can they go anywhere other than the lake of fire?

First we are going to look at the only Scripturally defined method of being Born Again, for the Lord Jesus Christ said in John 3:3, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God! To often that sentence is ended with a period, it is and exclamation, it is a matter of fact, it is not arbitrary, it is an absolute, it means simply this, unless you are Born Again, as defined by Scripture, no matter how good a life you live, you are not even going to see the inside of heaven, you are going to spend eternity in the lake of fire with the devil and it's.

look, if you are one of the very many who said some canned so called Prayer of Salvation and did not comply, 100%, with what The Lord Jesus acknowledge as Born Again, you are not going to heaven, you are going to the lake of fire, I don't know how I can be any clearer. I don't care what the pope says, I don't care what so called Evangelical leaders say, I only care what He, who went up on the cross for us, He who left His kingdom in heaven and came to earth to offer us the one and only way to eternal peace and love with Him in heaven, has to say. And if any who disagree ca find Scripture to contradict this dire warning, so be it, let them do it, but as for those who start by disagreeing with denominational garbage or commentary by others, don't waste your time.


Later today, we are going to look at the one and only Scriptural method of being Born Again.

For those who disagree, prove your point with Scripture or offer yourself on a cross for me and I'll consider what you have to say.

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#4. To: BobCeleste (#0) (Edited)

Your postings over the years (the only thing we can know you by) indicate you as a fake pastor, whose taken the mantle on oneself rather than been called. Nothing about you indicates christian. All you do is spout canned verbiage from someone else.

Not to be harsh, but this is the 'person' you have projected via your postings.

I'm sure your a nice guy tho.

What is ACP?

Biff Tannen  posted on  2015-01-23   12:53:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Biff Tannen (#4)

Your postings over the years (the only thing we can know you by) indicate you as a fake pastor, whose taken the mantle on oneself rather than been called. Nothing about you indicates christian. All you do is spout canned verbiage from someone else.

Not to be harsh, but this is the 'person' you have projected via your postings.

And what is your Scripture to support your accusation?

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-01-23   13:35:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BobCeleste (#6)

And thou shalt love the lord your god with all your heart, all your soul and all your mind.

Bob, you've turned your mind off. You refuse to think.

This is not acceptable to anyone, least of all god.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2015-01-23   14:36:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Biff Tannen (#10)

And thou shalt love the lord your god with all your heart, all your soul and all your mind.

Bob, you've turned your mind off. You refuse to think.

This is not acceptable to anyone, least of all god.

Biff, I paraphrased John 3:3 as Jesus saying, Be Born Again or go to hell, am I wrong? If so, how?

You continue to make accusations yet you refuse to show me where I have erred in any of my published thoughts.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-01-23   14:53:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: BobCeleste (#11)

Yes, you're wrong. You're taking a snippet out of context. They weren't even discussing that.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2015-01-23   15:51:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Biff Tannen (#12)

Yes, you're wrong. You're taking a snippet out of context. They weren't even discussing that.

I think Bob's point is within the context of the passage, chapter and conversion Jesus had with Nicodemus.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-23   21:23:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: redleghunter (#18)

A precision: One must be begotten again - born means come out of womb, and that's a female function. But one is begotten by one's Father (mother too). And Jesus speaks elsewhere about obtaining God as your Father, in the spirit.

So, when one is BEGOTTEN again, one exchanges fathers for the Heavenly Father, who begets one anew with his spirit.

Hence the bit about "the wind blows where it wishes". Remember, wind and spirit are the same thing. God walked with Adam and Eve in "the breezy part of the day", which is to say, the time when his spirit was blowing in the garden.

Remember that the wind/spirit of God brooded over the waters in Genesis 1. Remember "Pneuma Hagion" - Holy Spirit, is Holy Breath, or Holy Wind.

Remember, God blew breath/wind/spirit into Adam's nostrils, and he became a breather, a nephesh, a "living soul".

When you are begotten again, the Father's spirit comes upon you and he becomes your Father in Heaven (and you are released from your father, Satan, of the earth).

What made Jesus unique is that he was begotten of the Father AND of a woman - so, he was begotten in the FLESH as well as the spirit. The Father is the father of all of us, by the spirit, but Jesus was the "only begotten" in a fleshly, biological sense, because he was also begotten by Mary, a human woman. (If it weren't God doing the begetting, Jesus would be a Nephil.)

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-24   9:28:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#25. To: Vicomte13 (#22)

Remember that the wind/spirit of God brooded over the waters in Genesis 1. Remember "Pneuma Hagion" - Holy Spirit, is Holy Breath, or Holy Wind.

Remember, God blew breath/wind/spirit into Adam's nostrils, and he became a breather, a nephesh, a "living soul".

When you are begotten again, the Father's spirit comes upon you and he becomes your Father in Heaven (and you are released from your father, Satan, of the earth).

Excellent points. It's right there in front of Nicodemus as he knew the very scriptures Christ was pointing him to.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-24 15:05:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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