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Title: The Trouble with Being a Grey Christian in a Grey World
Source: yourmomhasablog.com
URL Source: http://yourmomhasablog.com/2015/01/ ... y-christian-in-a-grey-world-2/
Published: Jan 16, 2015
Author: Melissa
Post Date: 2015-01-20 15:57:51 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 1700
Comments: 5

Lately there has been lots of talk about the “grey” in the Bible. Conservative Christians are supposedly waking up from their stunted, abusive, check-your-intellect-at-the-door sham of a faith and realizing that the Bible on their shelves is a lot more grey than it is black and white. And, what a relief for them! It is so nice, they say, to put aside the oppressive teachings of the youth groups they once thought were awesome. It’s incredible to finally understand that the Bible is only a book, albeit a pretty good one, written by lots of flawed humans, handed down through all kinds of unenlightened cultures, compiled by who knows what kinds of means (by more flawed humans) and finally given to us as a laughably irrelevant guide to life in 2014. I mean, come on, what did Jesus know about gay marriage?

And, it’s wonderful, they say, to be able to distance themselves from the big, bad, mean church. It’s nice to be able to say to the world, Hey, world, you big ball of grey, blurry, undefined truth, I’m with you! I’m nothing like those so-called church people (*cough, Pharisees*). And they write their blogs and they tell and retell all that the church is that they hate. And they tell and retell all that everything else is that they love. There is no “right” way to interpret the Bible, they say. And they embrace the “grey” that lets them blend into the great lostness of this world.

The questions, they say, are more important than the answers. Who cares what the answers are, they ask, as long as you’re sincere? Even things the Bible seems to be clear on are not really clear when you take into account the cultural influences of the day in which they were written, and then of course there’s the whole angry misogynistic god issue, and in the end it’s really better to just quote the love chapter a lot and talk about how Jesus would do the exact opposite of whatever the church is doing.

And during all of this talk which is peppered with many references to themselves as great warriors of peace and love, there is an important element of the gospel which is noticeably absent: the truth.

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#1. To: Gatlin (#0)

>>Since you left out the main part of the article which gets to the conclusion, the beginning looks misleading as a call for Christians to abandon their faith to a grey, undefined, and altogether moral-less world.

>>Then again, what other purpose would a progressive-demon serve, amirite?!?

The rest (and most important) text is below:

""And, there is no grey in the truth. It stands out clearly against the drab landscape of a world that is writhing in the agony of sin and strife. This truth is so crisply black and white that it glows plainly through the fog of confusion and “progressive” thinking and the lie that says that sin isn’t our real problem. This is the truth that calls humans sinful. It calls God holy. It shines a light on our desperate need for a Savior. And this truth challenges us in the most incomprehensible, yet beautiful way, to strive for holiness, even if it is unpopular (which it is), even if it makes us look like we’re trying too hard (which could never happen), even if it makes this whole grey world, even the grey Christians, hate us immensely for our stupidity, for our foolish devotion to an outdated book, for our crazy desire to live out the radical faith that it calls us to. And, most importantly, for our willingness to call sin what it is, a terrible offense against a Holy God, and a reason for great humility and repentance.

I have no doubt that the grey Christians are sincere in their desire to love the lost. But, the grey areas of their faith tell them that they cannot love while believing the tougher truths of the Bible. So, they call those truths fuzzy and call the church judgmental and they declare to the world that those who live in the black and white are ruining Christianity.

But, there is a better way. It is a delicate balance of truth and love, which Jesus so clearly demonstrates throughout His ministry. It is deep, crazy, genuine love that demands clear and honest truth-telling. Love and truth are excellent partners, and are necessary if we are to love God with all we have and love others with the kind of love that is completely different from anything the world offers. It is a black and white love, and a black and white truth, and when we drop the truth because of fear and discomfort, we drop the true love of the gospel message.

We are sinners who need God. No grey, no exceptions, no cultural nuances. That is truth. And that is love.""

TheFireBert  posted on  2015-01-20   17:09:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TheFireBert (#1)

“If others tell us something we make assumptions, and if they don't tell us something we make assumptions to fulfill our need to know and to replace the need to communicate. Even if we hear something and we don't understand we make assumptions about what it means and then believe the assumptions. We make all sorts of assumptions because we don't have the courage to ask questions.” ― Miguel Ruiz, The Four Agreements: A Practical Guide to Personal Freedom
Before you made any assumption, you should ask me:
     1. Why did you only post the first part of the blog article.
     2. Did you do this to intentionally make it look “misleading as a call for Christians to abandon their faith to a grey, undefined, and altogether moral-less world.”

Had you asked: I would have answered: “No”....to both questions.

Then I would have informed you that is the article posting style I use to make sure I never inadvertently post a fully copyrighted article. I present the lead in and link to the remainder.

I will respond to your other post when I have time. It requires some thought on my part.

Incidentally, Firebert is a family surname. Is that why you use it as a screen name, or is there another reason? I will understand if this is personal information you wish not to disclose.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-21   7:40:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Gatlin (#2)

Incidentally, Firebert is a family surname. Is that why you use it as a screen name, or is there another reason? I will understand if this is personal information you wish not to disclose.

No, I was not even aware "Firebert" was a surname, until you brought it up.

I use the name, in jest, to pay homage to one of my favorite internet cartoon characters, "FireBert" of the Cheat Commandos. The characters codename, whose real name is the "The Cheat", is thought of to be a "terrible commando name", and I have stuck with it ever since. To me, such a name is strong and random, and I have used it as my online posting and gaming persona for nearly a decade and a half now. To understand the reasoning behind the name is to perhaps understand why sarcasm and a strong oppositional stance are my posting staple.

www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Firebert

TheFireBert  posted on  2015-01-21   8:38:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Gatlin (#2)

Had you asked: I would have answered: “No”....to both questions.

Then I would have informed you that is the article posting style I use to make sure I never inadvertently post a fully copyrighted article. I present the lead in and link to the remainder.

I agree with the reasoning above, but would insist on adding your own dialog in the poster's comments in the future to ensure that the amount of content, or lack thereof, is not misleading.

Later on I will elaborate on this thought if need be.

TheFireBert  posted on  2015-01-21   8:42:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TheFireBert (#4)

I agree with the reasoning above, but would insist on adding your own dialog in the poster's comments in the future to ensure that the amount of content, or lack thereof, is not misleading.

Excellent point....I will attempt to do that in the future.

Later....

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-21   8:47:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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