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Title: The Problem Isn’t Islam … It’s ALL Religious Fundamentalism
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URL Source: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014 ... amentalists-just-muslisms.html
Published: Aug 26, 2014
Author: washingtonsblog
Post Date: 2015-01-20 15:49:51 by Gatlin
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While the Koran Calls for Violence, The Bible Is Even Worse … Calling for Genocide Christians and Jews rightly point out that the Koran is a violent text which calls on Muslims to attack “unbelievers”. But they fail to see that the Bible is at least as violent.
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#1. To: Gatlin, Y'ALL (#0)
As Christian writer and psychiatrist M. Scott Peck – who served as the United States Army’s Assistant Chief Psychiatry and Neurology Consultant to the Surgeon General of the Army, and held the rank of Lieutenant Colonel – explained, there are different stages of spiritual maturity. Fundamentalism – whether it be Muslim, Christian, Jewish or Hindu fundamentalism – is an immature stage of development. Indeed, a Christian fundamentalist who kills others in the name of religion is much more similar to a Muslim – or Jewish, Hindu or Buddhist – fundamentalist who kills others in the name of his religion than to a Christian who peacefully fights for justice and truth, helps the poor, or serves to bring hope to the downtrodden. Postscript: Sadly, the U.S. and our allies are making matters worse by backing the most barbaric, crazed, fundamentalist Muslims … and overthrowing the moderate Arabs. "Most Muslims condemn Islamic terrorism?" Doesn't gatlin find that debatable?
Care to give us a few thousand examples of Christians killing for Christ? I can think of none. Putting Born Again Christians in the same league with muslims is so incorrect as to be sickening. If US Christians decided to do to muslims in the US what muslims in the muslim word do to unarmed Christians in their land, there would have been a zero muslim count at the last census, but since we haven't, your premise is proved asinine.
1 Samuel 15 New International Version (NIV) "1. Samuel said to Saul, “I am the one the Lord sent to anoint you king over his people Israel; so listen now to the message from the Lord. 2. This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” The God described in the Bible was always considered vengeful, but never without some reason for vengeance. To be fair, the Bible also says that God committed near total annihilation of the world just because He was sick of it at the moment... Also, Saul's time (1050 BC) was well before Mohammed's time (570 AD), and can be considered part of the Islamic, Jewish, and Christian shared history. The God in the story (or historical account, depending on your stance) is the same, and the actions and results could also be considered shared. This alone discounts the assertion that Christianity's version of God and faith is bloodier and crueler than Islam's when using this reference. Unless I am mistaken, most of the blood shed by Christians happened after the birth of Islam, and it can hardly be considered a one-way street. . . . I bet ol' Gats has a metric sh*te-tonne of research that will back up the good professor Philip Jenkins claims that Christians are mush bloodier than Muslims. Why, just look and the Middle East right now. So much "peace" that you cannot even walk a straight line for 10 miles without bumping into one of the ISIS "emissaries of peace"!!!
You've got me confused with gatlin, who posted this opinion piece. --- I'm with you in criticizing it.
Not dripping with enough sarcasm for the Pastor to detect...
I banned your rtwb account. You're not allowed to have more then one account. You have been warned.
When can I expext the privilege of more than 5 posts a day?
Doesn't gatlin find that debatable? Thank you for asking. I am busy right now. However, you hold onto the thought. I'll try to get back to you when I have time. Uh, please ping me if I forget.
What is an "rtwb" account I am supposed to have?
Indeed, the Nazis, the Norwegian mass murderer and many others have committed terrorism in the name of Christianity. Adolph Hitler professed to be a Christian, and churches in Nazi Germany mainly supported the Nazis. ..... Most Muslims condemn Islamic terrorism, just as most Christians condemn terrorism by fundamentalist Christians and most Jews condemn terrorism by fundamentalist Jews. ......
I took nothing out of context. I only posted the article. If you want to ask me if I agree or disagree with the author, then please do so. Nope, ol'w Gats has done no such research.
Doesn't gatlin find that debatable? I've been trying to take it a little easy around poor gat, since he suffered the embarrassment of leaving LP over a mere mention that his 'personal info' might be accessible to a new owner. What could possibly be within such info, - to cause such an overreaction?
Doesn't gatlin find that debatable? Okay, I have time for you now. I personally have no idea if "Most Muslims condemn Islamic terrorism" or not. I did find that a 2007 Pew Research Center study of several nations throughout the Muslim world showed that opposition to suicide bombing in the Muslim world is increasing, with a majority of Muslims surveyed in 10 out of the 16 of the countries responding that suicide bombings and other violence against civilians is "never" justified, though an average of 38% believe it is justified at least rarely. Do you have anything that supports or disputes the Pew Research Center study?
I also found that the YouGov survey for the Daily Telegraph, published two weeks after the July 2005 bombings in the London Underground, showed that 88% of British Muslims were opposed to the bombings, while 6% (about 100,000 individuals) fully supported them, and one British Muslim in four expressed some sympathy with the motives of the bombers. On the basis of that survey, if it is to believe, one must say that most British Muslims were opposed to the bombings and therefore condemned Islamic terrorism, right?
How many sock puppet accounts do you have left, tater?
How many sock puppet accounts do you have left, tater? I have never seen a post by "rtwb"....have you? I did a "From" and "To" search for "rtwb" and came up with nothing.
rwbt
A world wide web search comes up with... Return To Work Bonus. How much is Acorn paying you, including sock puppet accounts?
Condemnations from Muslim sources against terrorists: A common complaint among non-Muslims is that Muslim religious authorities do not condemn terrorist attacks. The complaints often surface in letters to the editors of newspapers, on phone-in radio shows, in Internet mailing lists, forums, etc. A leader of an evangelical Christian para-church group, broadcasting over Sirius Family Net radio, stated that he had done a thorough search on the Internet for a Muslim statement condemning terrorism, without finding a single item. Actually, there are lots of fatwas and other statements issued which condemn attacks on innocent civilians. Unfortunately, they are largely ignored by newspapers, television news, radio news and other media outlets. The following essays describe a small percentage of statements condemning terrorism that have been made, but not widely published.Topics covered in this section:
A world wide web search comes up with... Return To Work Bonus. How much is Acorn paying you, including sock puppet accounts? A google search for "rtwB" came up with a number of links to: "Respiratory Therapists Without Borders." No, I am not connected with the medical profession in any way. If you find anyone giving out a "return to work bonus"....check to see what they are paying. If it is enough, and it would have to be a huge sum, then I may be interested.
I was not, it is that you have no importance to me....so you get to the back of the line. I have my research laid out well in advance for everything I post. You must know that....try to remember it.
Screen Name Search: rwbt There are no posts with the given search criteria. Sorry, I still have no idea what you are talking about. If you want me to leave, just say so and I am gone right now.
I think he knows that.
Screen Name Search: rwbt There are no posts with the given search criteria. Shoddy research is standard for you. There is one post by your sock puppet rwbt, which I responded to. When you cut to the chase,that isn't even the problem. The problems come when the fundies demand everyone else live according to their morality codes. If they just applied those standards to themselves and left the rest of us alone,no problem. It's all about freedom of choice.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Screen Name Search: rwbt There are no posts with the given search criteria. Shoddy research is standard for you. There is one post by your sock puppet rwbt, which I responded to. libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...gi?ArtNum=37125&Disp=2#C2 Not shoddy research....I do that to perfection. I did transpose the letters to "rtwb" when I performed a "From" and "To" search....you can charge to to me acting like greased lightning. I am one fast Devil. I have no idea why Moderator X ever got the idea I am rwtb. I am done with this....and you should be too, Moderator X.
Then said:--- "I personally have no idea if "Most Muslims condemn Islamic terrorism" or not." Now Pete observes: --- When you cut to the chase,that isn't even the problem. The problems come when the fundies demand everyone else live according to their morality codes. If they just applied those standards to themselves and left the rest of us alone,no problem. It's all about freedom of choice. Well said Pete. --- And I'll bet you get a very convoluted 'answer' from gatlin. If we're lucky he may use Pew again.
Now Pete observes: --- When you cut to the chase,that isn't even the problem. The problems come when the fundies demand everyone else live according to their morality codes. If they just applied those standards to themselves and left the rest of us alone,no problem. It's all about freedom of choice. Well said Pete. --- And I'll bet you get a very convoluted 'answer' from gatlin. If we're lucky he may use Pew again. Well said Pete. There, not convoluted, tpaine. If I were to have bet, then you would have lost your bet, tpaine. But then, tpaine, I will never bet with you because you no doubt would renege on that too....just like you did on making a contribution to LP.
I'm pretty sure that Goldi knew he would never ptay up.
She did.
There, not convoluted, tpaine. If I were to have bet, then you would have lost your bet, tpaine. Rats, foiled again by Mr. Obvious. I've never welshed on a bet in my life. -- You failed to meet my conditions, which was made obvious by your chump like flight from LP when you thought some of your personal info might be compromised.
Yea, sure....and you never lied in you life either. :) You know what, chump....I never have to meet you conditions.
Another click wasted on a crappy 3-sentence excerpt. If you don't like it enough to post the whole thing, then please don't post it.
She knew indeed, when I defended her position on the thread where she told the religious fanatics to shut up. Yep, that was her style, especially when she was defending poor you over whatever strange thing you were covering up, and still are.
I feel sure that MX or DA will be along shortly to stop this exchange. So, I will save them the time and trouble. I am through sparring with you, featherweight. You are no match for me and it is unfair if I continue. You take care, ya hear!
Your browser doesn't handle hyperlinks?
In my world, he who calls in the moderators, and flees the scene, is a loooser.
Right! I admit: I lost....I lost....I lost.... Now can you please just shut up and stop stalking me and bothering me?
Sorry, but as long as you post articles here, you'll get my comments on them. Nope I'm not gonna shut up. I'm not stalking you, and if my comments are bothering you, feel free to be a bozo, as you were on LP.
No, it doesn't.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestMost Muslims condemn Islamic terrorism, just as most Christians condemn terrorism by fundamentalist Christians and most Jews condemn terrorism by fundamentalist Jews.
#2. To: tpaine (#1)
Indeed, a Christian fundamentalist who kills others in the name of religion
#3. To: Gatlin (#0)
(Edited)
Once again, Comrade, your penchant for taking things out of context is dead on:
#4. To: BobCeleste (#2)
#5. To: tpaine (#4)
Doesn't gatlin find that debatable?
#6. To: Gatlin (#0)
#7. To: Moderator X (#6)
#8. To: tpaine (#1)
"Most Muslims condemn Islamic terrorism?"
#9. To: Moderator X (#6)
#10. To: BobCeleste (#2)
examples of Christians killing for Christ? I can think of none.
Knights Templar
.... The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#11. To: TheFireBert (#3)
Once again, Comrade, your penchant for taking things out of context is dead on:
I bet ol' Gats has a metric sh*te-tonne of research that will back up the good professor Philip Jenkins claims that Christians are mush bloodier than Muslims. Why, just look and the Middle East right now. So much "peace" that you cannot even walk a straight line for 10 miles without bumping into one of the ISIS "emissaries of peace"!!!
#12. To: TheFireBert (#5)
Not dripping with enough sarcasm for the Pastor to detect...
#13. To: tpaine (#1)
"Most Muslims condemn Islamic terrorism?"
#14. To: tpaine (#13)
"Most Muslims condemn Islamic terrorism?"
#15. To: Gatlin, rtwb sock puppet (#9)
What is an "rtwb" account .... ?
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#16. To: hondo68, Gatlin, rtwb sock puppet. Moderator X (#15)
What is an "rtwb" account .... ?
#17. To: Gatlin (#16)
#18. To: Gatlin, Return To Work Bonus, Acorn (#16)
search for "rtwb" and came up with nothing.
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#19. To: tpaine (#14)
"Most Muslims condemn Islamic terrorism?"
#20. To: Gatlin (#13)
"Most Muslims condemn Islamic terrorism?"
Doesn't gatlin find that debatable? Okay, I have time for you now. -- I personally have no idea if "Most Muslims condemn Islamic terrorism" or not.
Thanks for admitting you're posting agitprop without having an idea if it's factual, or not.
#21. To: hondo68 (#18)
search for "rtwb" and came up with nothing.
#22. To: tpaine (#20)
#23. To: Moderator X (#17)
rwbt
#24. To: Gatlin (#23)
#25. To: Gatlin (#23)
(Edited)
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#26. To: Gatlin (#0)
(Edited)
The Problem Isn’t Islam … It’s ALL Religious Fundamentalism
#27. To: hondo68, Moderator X, A K A Stone (#25)
#28. To: sneakypete (#26)
Gatlin posted an article: -- "The Problem Isn’t Islam … It’s ALL Religious Fundamentalism"
#29. To: sneakypete, tpaine (#28)
Gatlin posted an article: -- "The Problem Isn’t Islam … It’s ALL Religious Fundamentalism" Then said:--- "I personally have no idea if "Most Muslims condemn Islamic terrorism" or not."
#30. To: Gatlin (#29)
#31. To: Palmdale (#30)
I'm pretty sure that Goldi knew he would never ptay up.
She knew what kind of a person he is.
She backhanded him good on the post where she told him to shut up.
#32. To: Gatlin (#29)
(Edited)
Well said Pete.
But then, tpaine, I will never bet with you because you no doubt would renege on that too....just like you did on making a contribution to LP.
#33. To: tpaine (#32)
I've never welshed on a bet in my life.
#34. To: Gatlin (#0)
#35. To: Gatlin (#31)
She knew what kind of a person he is.
She backhanded him good on the post where she told him to shut up.
#36. To: tpaine, Moderator X, Devil Anse (#33)
#37. To: TooConservative (#34)
Another click wasted on a crappy 3-sentence excerpt.
#38. To: Y'ALL (#36)
#39. To: tpaine (#38)
In my world, he who calls in the moderators, and flees the scene, is a loooser.
#40. To: Gatlin (#39)
Now can you please just shut up and stop stalking me and bothering me?
#41. To: Palmdale (#37)
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