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Title: Mummy Mask May Reveal Oldest Known Gospel
Source: livescience.com
URL Source: http://www.livescience.com/49489-oldest-known-gospel-mummy-mask.html
Published: Jan 18, 2015
Author: Owen Jarus
Post Date: 2015-01-18 18:39:21 by Fibr Dog
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A text that may be the oldest copy of a gospel known to exist — a fragment of the Gospel of Mark that was written during the first century, before the year 90 — is set to be published.

At present, the oldest surviving copies of the gospel texts date to the second century (the years 101 to 200).

This first-century gospel fragment was written on a sheet of papyrus that was later reused to create a mask that was worn by a mummy. Although the mummies of Egyptian pharaohs wore masks made of gold, ordinary people had to settle for masks made out of papyrus (or linen), paint and glue. Given how expensive papyrus was, people often had to reuse sheets that already had writing on them.

In recent years scientists have developed a technique that allows the glue of mummy masks to be undone without harming the ink on the paper. The text on the sheets can then be read.

The first-century gospel is one of hundreds of new texts that a team of about three-dozen scientists and scholars is working to uncover, and analyze, by using this technique of ungluing the masks, said Craig Evans, a professor of New Testament studies at Acadia Divinity College in Wolfville, Nova Scotia.

"We're recovering ancient documents from the first, second and third centuries. Not just Christian documents, not just biblical documents, but classical Greek texts, business papers, various mundane papers, personal letters," Evans told Live Science. The documents include philosophical texts and copies of stories by the Greek poet Homer.

The business and personal letters sometimes have dates on them, he said. When the glue was dissolved, the researchers dated the first-century gospel in part by analyzing the other documents found in the same mask.

One drawback to the process is that the mummy mask is destroyed, and so scholars in the field are debating whether that particular method should be used to reveal the texts they contain.

But Evans emphasized that the masks that are being destroyed to reveal the new texts are not high quality ones that would be displayed in a museum. Some are not masks at all but are simply pieces of cartonnage.

Evans told Live Science, "We're not talking about the destruction of any museum-quality piece."

The technique is bringing many new texts to light, Evans noted. "From a single mask, it's not strange to recover a couple dozen or even more" new texts, he told Live Science. "We're going to end up with many hundreds of papyri when the work is done, if not thousands."

Debate

Scholars who work on the project have to sign a nondisclosure agreement that limits what they can say publicly. There are several reasons for this agreement. One is that some of the owners of these masks simply do not want to be made known, Evans said. "The scholars who are working on this project have to honor the request of the museums, universities, private owners, so forth."

The owners of the mummy masks retain ownership of the papyrus sheets after the glue on them is dissolved.

Evans said that the only reason he can talk about the first-century gospel before it is published is because a member of the team leaked some of the information in 2012. Evans was careful to say that he is not telling Live Science anything about the first-century gospel that hasn't already been leaked online.

Soon after the 2012 leak, speculation surrounded the methods that the scholars used to figure out the gospel's age.

Evans says that the text was dated through a combination of carbon-14 dating, studying the handwriting on the fragment and studying the other documents found along with the gospel. These considerations led the researchers to conclude that the fragment was written before the year 90. With the nondisclosure agreement in place, Evans said that he can't say much more about the text's date until the papyrus is published.

Destruction of mummy masks

The process that is used to obtain the papyri, which involves the destruction of the mummy masks, has also generated debate. For instance, archaeologist Paul Barford, who writes about collecting and heritage issues, has written a scathing blog post criticizing the work on the gospel.

Roberta Mazza, a lecturer in Classics and Ancient History at the University of Manchester, has blogged her concerns about the text as has Brice Jones, a doctoral candidate in religion at Concordia University.

When the texts are published the debate is likely to move beyond the blogosphere and into mainstream media and scholarly journals.

Biblical clues

Although the first-century gospel fragment is small, the text will provide clues as to whether the Gospel of Mark changed over time, Evans said.

His own research is focused on analyzing the mummy mask texts, to try to determine how long people held onto them before disposing or reusing them. This can yield valuable information about how biblical texts were copied over time.

"We have every reason to believe that the original writings and their earliest copies would have been in circulation for a hundred years in most cases — in some cases much longer, even 200 years," he said.

This means that "a scribe making a copy of a script in the third century could actually have at his disposal (the) first-century originals, or first-century copies, as well as second-century copies."

Set to publish

Evans said that the research team will publish the first volume of texts obtained through the mummy masks and cartonnage later this year. It will include the gospel fragment that the researchers believe dates back to the first century.

The team originally hoped the volume would be published in 2013 or 2014, but the date had to be moved back to 2015. Evans said he is uncertain why the book's publication was delayed, but the team has made use of the extra time to conduct further studies into the first-century gospel. "The benefit of the delay is that when it comes out, there will be additional information about it and other related texts."

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#4. To: redleghunter, TooConservative, GarySpFc, Vicomte13, Don, BobCeleste, listener, Liberator (#0)

Although the first-century gospel fragment is small, the text will provide clues as to whether the Gospel of Mark changed over time, Evans said.

Maybe this will led to a new Council of Nicea?

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-18   19:20:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: SOSO (#4)

Maybe this will led to a new Council of Nicea?

No.

The Church preceded the New Testament, as testified by Scripture itself. Most of Paul's Epistles are written to already existing Churches. "to the Church that is in Corinth", Galatians, Ephesians, etc. Most of those Churches have never ceased to exist -- the ones above are parts of the Greek Orthodox Church, for example.

It was the Church, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, which decided the Canon of Scripture. And in the same way the Church cast out heretics in the Ecumenical Councils.

Orthodoxa  posted on  2015-01-18   19:45:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Orthodoxa (#11)

Maybe this will led to a new Council of Nicea?

No.

Ah, I love an open minded person. Don't worry, the religious establishment has your back.

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-18   19:46:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: SOSO (#12)

Ah, I love an open minded person. Don't worry, the religious establishment has your back.

LOL. I love it when the first thing someone who is not a traditional Christian says is that I'm close-minded.

That way you don't even have to pay attention to the premise that I posted. The Church determined the Canon of Scripture, not the other way around. That's just historical fact.

Orthodoxa  posted on  2015-01-18   19:49:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Orthodoxa (#14)

I love it when the first thing someone who is not a traditional Christian

Do you know something that God doesn't, i.e. that I am not a traditional Christian?

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-18   19:51:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: SOSO (#16)

Do you know something that God doesn't, i.e. that I am not a traditional Christian?

If you are a traditional Christian, then why would you argue to replace an Ecumenical Council?

It's funny, literally this very day the Orthodox Church commemorates Sts. Athanasius and Cyril, who expressed the Orthodox doctrine in two of the Ecumenical Councils.

Are you arguing that Athanasius should be cast out if a few words on some mummy wrappings do not support his defense of the Divinity of Christ?

You do understand, don't you, that the Church rejected various "Gnostic Gospels" that taught things contrary to what they had received from the Apostles?

Orthodoxa  posted on  2015-01-18   20:06:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Orthodoxa, redleghunter (#19)

It's funny, literally this very day the Orthodox Church commemorates Sts. Athanasius and Cyril, who expressed the Orthodox doctrine in two of the Ecumenical Councils.

As should all diligent bible students. The Orthodox do cultivate a very long memory.

I recall my shock one Sunday when some mention was made of the early canon and I mentioned Athanasius and they all looked at me like they'd never heard of him. Sadly, they probably hadn't because they were too busy collecting the 17 volumes of Left Behind books.

I never comprehend how some Christians seem to have no detectable interest in scripture. In a Catholic, well, maybe since they rely on tradition. But how can a Prot or Baptist be so uninterested when the basic facts are not difficult to grasp? It baffles me.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-18   20:25:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: TooConservative, redleghunter (#26)

Since it came up, here is a small smattering of the hymns sung to commemorate those two Egyptian Bishops who defended traditional Christianity in the Councils of Nicaea and Ephesus:

Ss. Athanasius and Cyril (Men. Jan. 18, Vesp.)

Verse 4: From the morning watch until night, from the morning watch let Israel trust in the Lord.

Persecutions didst thou endure; many perils didst thou abide, righteous Athanasius, thou man of speech divine, until thou hadst banished far off the godless error of Arius and hadst saved the faithful flock from his grievous impiety, when with right belief thou didst teach that the Son and Spirit both are one in essence with the Father, O sacred minister blessed of God.

Verse 3: For with the Lord there is mercy and with Him is abundant redemption, and He will deliver Israel from all His iniquities.

With thy preaching’s bright lightning-bolts, thou didst drive all deception out, and thou didst enlighten them that were in the dark, when for the Faith, thou didst cast thyself in dangers, O most renowned, as a firm foundation-stone and true shepherd of Christ God’s Church. Wherefore, we rejoice as we gather to honor thee with songs, O steadfast Father Athanasius, on this, thy holy memorial.

Verse 2: Praise the Lord, all ye nations. Praise Him, all ye people.

In thy doctrines, which breathe with fire, all the substance of heresies is burnt up like sticks in the flame, O man most wise; the host of godless and disobedient foes drowneth in the depths of thy knowledge and thy thoughts; but the Church of the faithful is ever fair arrayed with thy doctrines of wisdom, O blessed Cyril, as it crieth with a great voice and giveth honor and praise to thee.

Verse 1: For His mercy is great towards us, and the truth of the Lord endureth forever.

With the eloquence of thy words all the Church is made beautiful, O most sacred Cyril; and with great reverence she doth rejoice in thy doctrines as in beautiful ornaments and doth honor sacredly thine auspicious and holy feast, O most glorious, thou great boast of the Orthodox and leader of the Fathers at the Council, the holy Virgin’s brave champion.

Tone 6 Doxasticon for Ss. Athanasius And Cyril (Men. Jan. 18, Vesp.)

Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.

Come, O ye feast-lovers, and as we gather, let us extol with spiritual praises those chiefs of hierarchs and pinnacles of patriarchs, the all-bright luminaries of the whole world, and expositions of the mind of Christ, and let us say: Rejoice, O wise Athanasius, namesake of immortality, who with the sling of thy divinely-wise doctrines didst hurl from Christ’s flock the trifler Arius as a wolf. Rejoice, O all-blessed Cyril, star bright with all splendor, champion of the Ever-virgin, who with stentorian voice in the midst of the sacred assembly at Ephesus didst illustriously proclaim her to be the Theotokos, and didst refute the nonsense of Nestorius. Rejoice, ye well-springs of theology, everflowing rivers of the wisdom of God, and gushing fountain of divine knowledge. O thrice-blessed Fathers, cease not to intercede with Christ for those who celebrate with faith and love your all-sacred and divine festival.

Orthodoxa  posted on  2015-01-18   20:37:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: redleghunter, TooConservative, Vicomte13, SOSO (#30)

And here is the Epistle Reading that is for the commemoration of Ss. Athanasius and Cyril today:

St. Paul's Letter to the Hebrews 13:7-16

Brethren, remember your leaders, those who spoke to you the word of God; consider the outcome of their lives, and imitate their faith. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and for ever. Do not be led away by diverse and strange teachings; for it is well that the heart be strengthened by grace, not by foods, which have not benefited their adherents. We have an altar from which those who serve the tent have no right to eat. For the bodies of those animals whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest as a sacrifice for sin are burned outside the camp. So Jesus also suffered outside the gate in order to sanctify the people through his own blood. Therefore let us go forth to him outside the camp and bear the abuse he endured. For here we have no lasting city, but we seek the city which is to come. Through him then let us continually offer up a sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of lips that acknowledge his name. Do not neglect to do good and to share what you have, for such sacrifices are pleasing to God.

Orthodoxa  posted on  2015-01-18   21:04:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Orthodoxa, redleghunter, TooConservative, Vicomte13 (#37)

Do not neglect to do good and to share what you have, for such sacrifices are pleasing to God.

No Christian of any of the myriad of Christian sects would take exception to this. To use perhaps an inelegant phrease, the Devil is in the details as to what each of these sects deem to be pleasing to God. You claim that the differences bewtween the varies translations of Scripture is trivial. That is willful deception. Tally up those which believe in transubstantiation and the signficiance that has upon what is pleasing to God and those that don't. Next tell me which are "traditional" Christians and which are not.

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-18   21:40:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: SOSO (#41)

You claim that the differences between the varies translations of Scripture is trivial. That is willful deception.

If that was addressed to me (it was a reply to my post) I never said any such thing.

Some translations are absolutely horrible, the Jehovah's Witness version comes to mind.

But, for an example as far as Orthodoxy is concerned, you do understand that Greek Orthodox aren't reading a translation, don't you?

There are a number of excellent English translations of the Bible, but of course some are better than others. You have to take into account what the translator's purpose was. Some of the English translations are deliberately simplified to help evangelize less educated people -- for that purpose they work fine, but in a debate over some nuance in Scripture they would not be as useful.

Orthodoxa  posted on  2015-01-18   21:51:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Orthodoxa (#44)

You have to take into account what the translator's purpose was. Some of the English translations are deliberately simplified to help evangelize less educated people -- for that purpose they work fine, but in a debate over some nuance in Scripture they would not be as useful.

That is very condescending and insulting to the 99.99999% of people who do not have the time nor the means the few priviledged self-annointed elite have to engage in the study so that the poor, unintelligent, less educated can reveal the truth for themself. And even the few priviledged self-annointed elite can't agree among themself. The each choose to stake out their particular piece of the pie.

The Word Of God is for all men. It can't believe that God did not intend it to be understandable by all men without having to rely upon priviledged self- annointed elites. God relationship with men is individual, one-to-one with no human intermediaries required.

And you consider yourself a traditional Christian?

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-18   22:11:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: SOSO (#49)

God relationship with men is individual, one-to-one with no human intermediaries required.

Except for baptism, at least...

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-19   8:26:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Vicomte13 (#83)

Except for baptism, at least...

Or Communion which means communion.

A Pole  posted on  2015-01-19   9:32:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: A Pole (#85)

Except for baptism, at least... Or Communion which means communion.

A literalist could say that he's communing with God when he remembers Christ while eating bread and wine. Traditionalists would not agree, but literalists don't care whether they agree or not.

But baptism is the first hard point in a "Me and God alone" approach, because there is no way to read baptism in Scripture to not see that it must be done TO you BY another. You can't baptize yourself.

That reality forces the literalist to do one of two things:

(1) Turn on Scripture itself and say that it's not authoritative, and therefore you CAN baptize yourself, OR

(2) Say that the "good thief" wasn't baptized, but Jesus promised him Paradise that day nevertheless.

(There are, then, two responses to that, and so on.)

The bigger questions from (not to you, but in general to those who say we don't need organized religion or scripture) me are pretty straightforward: if we discard organized religion, as has been suggested, and then also discard Scripture as unreliable, and just rely on "The Holy Spirit" to tell us, how do we know that the spirit that's talking to us is Holy? Mohammed did that, rejecting both the pagan temples of his region and the Christian Church of the neighbors, and he wrote his own book, inspired by the spirit that spoke to him.

Was Mohammed inspired by God? He certainly thought he was, and he had tremendous success and victory (and so does Islam) to prove it in the real world too.

So, is Allah the Holy Spirit? No? How do you know? Because Islam preaches evil. But how do you know what is evil; the spirit told Mohammed that evil is good.

If we lived in the world with only one spirit, the Holy Spirit, then we could just chuck organized religion and scripture and rely on the inner voice. But we live in a world in which Satan and demons can also speak to us internally. Without the fixed reference points of institutions and Scripture, why would Sam Berkowitz NOT kill all those people that God told him to kill, directly out of the mouth of his neighbor's German Shepherd?

The biggest problem with rejecting organized religion and written texts and just relying on the Holy Spirit alone is that the Holy Spirit isn't the only spirit out there in the marketplace of ideas, and without the institutional reference points, we have no way of judging whether the spirit talking to us is Holy or not… other than our personal opinion.

I know in my case there are a few things I am told are sins that never troubled my conscience, at all, and that based on my inner light I don't think are sins at all. I have institutions and texts to tell me I'm wrong. If I throw those out, then the spirits that talk to me guide me to a lot of good, but also guide me to things that institution and tradition would call heresy or worse.

Invisible intelligent spirits that can read our thoughts and manipulate our bodies exist. I know this empirically. I also know that I, at least, do not have a detection mechanism that is sharp enough to always be able to tell the fair from the foul. Navigating what spirits say without the external reference points of institution and scripture seems to me like trying to fly through clouds without instruments. If you're a lucky pilot, you can do that a few times for short periods. Keep doing it, and you'll end up smashing into a hill or the ground, though.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-19   11:13:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Vicomte13, redleghunter, Orthodoxa, TooComservative GarySpFc, A Pole, A K A Stone, sneakypete, Pericles, CZ82, Zesta, (#86)

If we lived in the world with only one spirit, the Holy Spirit, then we could just chuck organized religion and scripture and rely on the inner voice. But we live in a world in which Satan and demons can also speak to us internally. Without the fixed reference points of institutions and Scripture,

Excellent insight. I dont' recall anyone here saying that there is no value, function, purpose to insititutuions and Scripture. I certainly never said that though I am certain some will accuse me of doing so. FTR I say that insititutuions and Scripture are imperfect and by themself insufficient in establishing a personal relationship with God, the missing ingredient being faith.

I asked Gary this question and in typical fashion he ducked it. I will now ask you all.

When does a person first come to faith? In a typical Christian family, whether avid church goers or not, when does the child first hear of God and Jesus Christ? From who? How? When does God first reveal Himself to that typical Christian child (or any child for that matter)? When does God first offer that child the gift of faith through the Holy Spirit? When is that typical child first introduced to the concept of good and evil? When does he first understand the nature of such? When does he by his own volition freely choose to accept the gift of faith?

Insitutions and Scripture certainly provide context and something physical to latch on to when the way gets dim and temptations come calling. They provide road signs. To many they provide encouragement to stay the course. They help nurture the first understandings of the child into more mature, adult commitment. But they are not perfect.

I find it amazing that some have expressed the belief that there is nothing to be learned from these new finds, or any potential new finds, that predate the earliest known writtings. IMO this is a profound demostration of a closed mind. To them it appears that the Council of Nicea is over and done and represents the end of the trail and has settled all issues about Christ and God.

I guess it is useless to ask them the what if question as they already know the answer and will likely quote some passage in Scripture to prove their contention.

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-19   12:07:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: SOSO (#93)

I asked Gary this question and in typical fashion he ducked it. I will now ask you all.

When does a person first come to faith? In a typical Christian family, whether avid church goers or not, when does the child first hear of God and Jesus Christ? From who? How? When does God first reveal Himself to that typical Christian child (or any child for that matter)? When does God first offer that child the gift of faith through the Holy Spirit? When is that typical child first introduced to the concept of good and evil? When does he first understand the nature of such? When does he by his own volition freely choose to accept the gift of faith?

I have answered this question several times, but some don't listen.

The Word is very clear. To be saved in individual needs to place his faith in the Christ of the Bible, repent of his sins, be baptized by immersion, and walk by faith in Jesus Christ and in newness of life.

GarySpFC  posted on  2015-01-19   15:48:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: GarySpFC (#104)

I have answered this question several times, but some don't listen.

The question is when does faith first come not what is required for salavation. Yes, some don't listen.

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-19   16:23:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: SOSO (#105)

The question is when does faith first come not what is required for salavation. Yes, some don't listen.

Listen carefully,

Romans 10:17-18 (AMP)

17 So faith comes by hearing [what is told], and what is heard comes by the preaching [of the message that came from the lips] of Christ (the Messiah Himself).

18 But I ask, Have they not heard? Indeed they have; [for the Scripture says] Their voice [that of nature bearing God's message] has gone out to all the earth, and their words to the far bounds of the world. [Ps 19:4.]

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