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Title: Cop’s helmet camera lands two Aussie potheads in hot water
Source: BIZPAC Review
URL Source: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/12 ... e-potheads-in-hot-water-168470
Published: Dec 18, 2014
Author: Vada Mossavat
Post Date: 2015-01-18 14:03:25 by Palmdale
Keywords: None
Views: 11651
Comments: 32

It’s summertime in Australia now, and for these guys, the heat was on. The two Aussie blokes had no idea that while they were rolling a joint in their car, an officer was right beside them, recording the whole thing.

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#1. To: Palmdale (#0)

Why should anyone give a damn if they smoke some weed?


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-18   15:00:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: hondo68 (#1)

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-18   15:08:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#1)

Why should anyone give a damn if they smoke some weed?

Should they be able to smoke and drive?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-18   15:09:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Palmdale (#2)

Is that pic from someone smoking marijuanna or drinking alcohol?

One is legal the other isn't.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-18   15:09:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#4)

Is that pic from someone smoking marijuanna or drinking alcohol?

Maybe.

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-18   15:11:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: hondo68 (#1)

Camil Paquet, a Canadian father of two and seasonal resident of Pompano Beach would....
if he were still alive today1

Click to read the Pot-smoking teen driver avoids prison in fatal Boca crash!

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-18   15:24:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone, Palmdale (#4)

Is that pic from someone smoking marijuanna or drinking alcohol?

One is legal the other isn't.

Neither should be used before driving.

Click here to read where a high driver who caused crash says I'll never smoke pot again.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-18   15:31:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Gatlin (#7)

That may be true. But alcohol is far far more dangerous.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-18   15:34:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone (#3)

Should they be able to smoke and drive?

Should an epileptic drive without their medical marijuana? A chemo patient with severe nausia?

The cop is not qualified to determine their medical needs, if any.

He should mind his own business and look for crazy sober drivers, which cause most accidents.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-18   15:49:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: hondo68 (#9)

Should an epileptic drive

Nope.

California's Vehicle Code states: “The department may refuse to issue to, or renew a driver's license of, any person who: . . . has a disorder characterized by lapses of consciousness or who has experienced, within the last three years, either a lapse of consciousness or an episode of marked confusion caused by any condition which may bring about recurrent lapses . . . unless the department has medical information which indicates the person may safely operate a motor vehicle. In making its determination, the department may rely on any relevant information available to the department.” [CAL. VEH. CODE § 12806(c) (2010)].

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-18   16:01:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#8)

That may be true. But alcohol is far far more dangerous.

Not necessarily, it's relative to use amount. While ocasional or moderate use of either alcohol or marijuana is innocuous. the excessive of use of both can be equally harmful while driving.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-18   16:06:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Palmdale (#2)

Since marijuana legalization, highway fatalities in Colorado are at near-historic lows


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-18   16:10:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: hondo68 (#12)

Oops, canaries will avoid that pesky detail.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-01-18   16:12:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: hondo68 (#12)

Since marijuana legalization, highway fatalities in Colorado are at near-historic lows

Uh oh - now you did it.

You had to go and post those pesky facts to Palmdale, didn't you

Stand by for the predictable hissy fit from the drug warriors in 5....4....3....2...1....

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state.
They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-01-18   16:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: hondo68, A K A Stone (#9)

Should an epileptic drive without their medical marijuana?

That calls for a yes/no answer.

Certain states have "mandatory reporting laws" requiring that doctors report persons with epilepsy and other disorders that may make driving hazardous.

Doctors who state that it is safe for a person with epilepsy to drive and recommend licenses could also face some liability in case of an accident.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-18   16:36:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Gatlin (#15)

So, you are suggesting that politicians make up the basic fabric of a free society that otherwise is uncontrolled by the use of "laws." Moreover, you are substantiating certain "professional" societies such as medical groups to support specific targeted aims by politicians in the first place.

Aren't you espousing fascism?

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-01-18   16:44:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: hondo68, Palmdale, A K A Stone, Deckard (#12)

Since marijuana legalization, highway fatalities in Colorado are at near-historic lows

You need to stop cherry picking yellow journalism articles to support you claims.

Learn to give ALL the pertinent facts….stop with the bias.

The fact is there is a downward trend in Colorado traffic fatalities….falling there since 2004. 1

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-18   16:47:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Pridie.Nones (#16)

Aren't you espousing fascism?

Nope.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-18   16:47:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Deckard, honda68 (#14)

You had to go and post those pesky facts to Palmdale, didn't you

Stand by for the predictable hissy fit from the drug warriors in 5....4....3....2...1....

Those are not facts, but his claim is pesky.

Stand by for the predictable correction from the Canary Clan in
5....4....3....2...1....NOW!

See Post #17!!!

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-18   16:50:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Dead Culture Watch, hondo68 (#13) (Edited)

Oops, canaries will avoid that pesky detail.

Ooops, the Canary Clan will never avoid any detail when ferreting out truth to correct disinformation and obfuscation of truth....you should know this by now.

The Canary Clan is concerned with important matters rather than trivialities and stands for logical reasoning. It is the mission of the Canary Clan to criticize and correct injustice, inhuman cruelty, bigotry, brainwashing, disinformation and obfuscation of truth. We have been told to shut up, but we will never shut up. We will continue to speak out against bullying, cruelty, harassment, hate and abuse.
You gotta walk that lonesome valley.
Long live freedom of speech, long live the Canary Clan and God Bless America!
See Post #17!!!

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-18   16:54:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: hondo68 (#12)

Since marijuana legalization, highway fatalities in Colorado are at near-historic lows

Dead cat bounce.

“Traffic fatalities involving operators testing positive for marijuana have increased 100 percent from 2007 to 2012…"

OPINION — Kimberlin: Colorado marijuana laws have mixed tourism effect

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-18   16:56:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Gatlin (#18)

Sorry, Charlie ... you were caught.

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-01-18   16:57:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Gatlin (#17)

The fact is there is a downward trend in Colorado traffic fatalities….falling there since 2004.

Yep. While marijuana-related fatalities are skyrocketing.

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-18   16:57:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Deckard (#14)

Stand by for the predictable hissy fit from the drug warriors in 5....4....3....2...1....

“Traffic fatalities involving operators testing positive for marijuana have increased 100 percent from 2007 to 2012…"

Poor you.

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-18   16:59:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Palmdale, hondo, Deckard, Dead Culture Watch (#21)

Since marijuana legalization, highway fatalities in Colorado are at near-historic lows

Dead cat bounce.


The traffic fatalities have been
steadily falling since 2004.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-18   17:00:43 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Pridie.Nones (#22)

Sorry, Charlie ... you were caught.

Only in your dreams....that doesn't count, pardner.

I choose to only respond to one of your screen names....so, adios.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-18   17:23:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Palmdale (#26)

We are pretty much finished here...as I recall, it's your turn for clean up.

Catch you later...

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-18   17:25:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Gatlin (#27)

it's your turn for clean up.

I guess. It looks like they've fled already.

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-18   19:11:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Gatlin (#11)

the excessive of use of both can be equally harmful while driving.

So drinking 10 shots of whiskey is as bad as smoking 10 joints?

I don't think so.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-18   19:42:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#29)

the excessive of use of both can be equally harmful while driving.

So drinking 10 shots of whiskey is as bad as smoking 10 joints?

I don't think so.

I don’t think you can compare drinking some amount of alcohol to smoking some amount of joints because it is impossible to do so given the complex pharmacology of marijuana, and multitude of individual characteristics that determine the impairment or intoxication due to marijuana consumption.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-18   20:00:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Gatlin (#30)

I've smoked weed and gotten drunk.

Being drunk inhibits your motor skills or abilities exponentially over smoking some marijuanna.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-18   20:02:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#31) (Edited)

Being drunk inhibits your motor skills or abilities exponentially over smoking some marijuanna.
There is no relativity in your statement. You do not qualify the degree of either, so your thesis is invalid. If you weigh 180 pounds, have 9 drinks and score 0.162 blood alcohol level then you are legally drunk. So then I agree that: “Being drunk inhibits your motor skills or abilities exponentially over smoking some (one or two joints of) marijuana.“
Stone: That may be true. But alcohol is far far more dangerous.

Gatlin: Not necessarily, it's relative to use amount. While occasional or moderate use of either alcohol or marijuana is innocuous, the excessive of use of both can be equally harmful while driving.

You stacked the deck to prove your point when you said:

So drinking 10 shots of whiskey is as bad as smoking 10 joints?

I don't think so.

Now permit me to do also stack the deck:
So being “stoned” on pot is worse than drinking 1 shot of whiskey?

I think so.

As I said: “It’s relative to the use amount.” I will go even further and say it’s relative to the use amount and relative to the individuals.

“RELATIVE” is the operative word here, Stone.

Studies show that every hour, one person is killed and 20 are injured in crashes involving a drunken driver. Even slightly “buzzed” drivers (drivers with a blood alcohol level of 0.01%, meaning someone who has had even one drink) are 46% more likely to be blamed for a crash when they collide with a sober driver.

With regards to the impact of people who use marijuana and drive, early studies showed had a slight impact on the psychomotor skills needed to drive. (but these studies were seen as limited since they were done in lab situations).

A recent study review published in the British Medical Journal found people who used marijuana within three hours of driving were nearly twice as likely to cause a crash as sober drivers.



The 3 Levels of a Marijuana High: Buzzed, High, or Stoned

The Buzz

Use:
"catching a buzz" or the invitation "wanna catch a buzz?" (It CAN BE elusive, so you have to 'catch' one when you can)

Practice:
Limited to taking only two or possibly three hits (tokes, inhales, etc.)

Effect:
This is the first level experienced in getting high on pot. You catch a nice, calm, enjoyable, floaty, buzz. First time users may claim to be stoned. This buzz practice is good for the daily user who begins their day with a buzz (not to be confused with "wake & bake" - see Stoned). Catching a Buzz is not enough to get burnt out, and yet you have not truly reached the Level of High (so to speak). You can revisit your joint or pipe later and refresh your buzz by taking a couple more hits. This can be continued through- out the day with few (if any) ill effects.

Explanation:
Depending upon the potency of your pot, any one of these effects could be enhanced or non-existent in your personal experience. It may take only one hit on the bong with your Hawaiian to catch a buzz, or it could take more than 10 hits of a joint to catch the same buzz based upon the quality of your weed and your friends.

Warning:
These examples take into account the use of good to excellent grade reefer. A nice buzz can last from 30 minutes to 2 hours. The effects of getting high on marijuana can be different from one person to the next. Marijuana is not a physically addictive drug.

The HIGH

Use:
"getting high", "let's get high"

Practice:
This level is generally reached when you smoke a joint or a couple of bowls with friends. Attainment can be reached with 4 to 8 hits of decent weed. It goes beyond a buzz, but you are not stoned either.

Efffect:
When you have continued from the Buzz level, you will quickly get funnier, and can become internal with your wild and sporadic thoughts. You may experience phases of paranoia at this level, I do not. That comes from (potentially) breaking a law to do it, or having to cover it up or hide it to begin with (IMO). You generally feel good, may want to do something fun or exciting, will like the taste of food and drink, and can still perform and enjoy your partner sexually. Now that's a drug! Audio and Video experiences seem enhanced to you. Focus & creativity are generally increased with the one exception of ADD users.

Warning:
People have reported witnessing uncontrollably laughter at nothing or anything at all. Having them explain the source of their laughter is futile. Laughing to tears is possible when paying attention to deep, meaningless conversation and humor.

Existing addictions like video games, alcohol, sex or adrenaline rushes of any type seem magnified and craved for, when high.

Red, sometimes bloodshot eyes can be experienced while at this level of high (standard eye drops can mask this appearance). It seems more fun to you when your friends are NOT high with you - but it's not fun or funny to them. Great marijuana can keep you really high for hours with minimum burn out. Some marijuana can leave you with dry mouth, also referred to as "cotton mouth".

The STONED

Use: "Let's get stoned", "Getting stoned" or "He's really stoned" (she's)

Practice:
When you continue to get high (continue to smoke after you are already high), you reach a certain plateau (destination). This Zone is happily referred to by many as "Stoned". To some, catching a buzz or getting high just isn't enough... they like to be stoned.

Effect:
When a person is stoned, they may exhibit any or all of the following behaviors;

All of the symptoms of the Buzz and the High are still present and usually increased when Stoned. It's also more fun in groups.

Friendly, talkative, sexual, less inhibited, courageous (?), daring, and sometimes even stupid (example: the movie JackAss).

Individuals are often mistaken in photographs for having their eyes closed, when (in reality) they were really just stoned.

Warning:
Extreme bouts of snack splurging are a noticeable side effect of being stoned on marijuana. While eye drops can help with the red eye experienced when getting high, they cannot help with the squinty eyes of a stoner. This often occurs after smoking really good reefer, or smoking so much Pot that you are glued to whatever seat you are in (the couch is a fine example). This squinty- eyed side-effect has no known cure as of the time of this publishing.

Some individuals may display a lack of motivation or activity at this level (lethargic). A burn-out may occur when coming down from the high (feeling) itself.

Bad weed or extreme burn-out may cause sleepiness in some at this level. Some people experience nice body buzz's besides their cerebral high. Many individuals (but not all), are NOT recommended to operate heavy equipment, run machinery or grocery shop in this condition.

http://www.weedsthatplease.com/3levelsofhigh.htm.

I stand by my statement:

While occasional or moderate use of either alcohol or marijuana is innocuous, the excessive of use of both can be equally harmful while driving.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-18   21:24:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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