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Title: Ron Paul -- Is He Evil?
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Published: Jan 17, 2015
Author: You Tube
Post Date: 2015-01-17 15:30:36 by no gnu taxes
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#17. To: Deckard (#15)
By your reasoning.... My reasoning is sound and one that permits me to ask a question in a logical way, not go off on a tangent like you are doing. Just stay on point by telling me which on Ron Paul’s ideas have ever resulted in actions. Show me why his long stay in Washington is not a long record of glorious failures in Congress. Of the 620 bills he sponsored, only four ever made it to a vote by the House and only one became a law. That is a success rate of 0.2 percent during the time he chose to stand up for his personal crusades rather than get the job done he was elected to do. I need not remind you, but I will gladly do so, Ron Paul was able to get a single law passed when he authored a bill that allowed for the sale of a customs house in Galveston, Texas. You would think that Paul was a real estate agent and not a U.S. Congressman….now wouldn’t you? To show you what benevolent person I am, I will even give you some wiggle room and not limit your answer to Congressional actions. You will of course have the same problem as you again come up with nothing. Don’t you think it is high time you stop trying to defend the indefensible?
You lose the bet, but win the trophy:
I'm surprised you didn't sic one of your sockpuppets on me, you're slipping!
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
And Ron's are cut n' paste. His cut and paste has done an absolutely terrible job of countering the vast suspicion that their Libertarianism is a uselessly abstract ideology. Libertarianism will never sell. It will remain a minority creed because most Americans are neither stupid nor immoral.
Ron Paul does need any defense from me or anyone else. Look, I'm sorry the guy still scares you with his "crazy" ideas about freedom and liberty. The fact remains - he has been a positive influence on millions of Americans who still value Constitutional principles. You wouldn't understand that, would you?
And Ron's are cut n' paste. His cut and paste has done an absolutely terrible job of countering the vast suspicion that their Libertarianism is a uselessly abstract ideology. Wow, you two clowns are really delusional. Cut and paste ideas? Just wow. Libertarianism will never sell. It's selling. You and the other statists aren't buying. You're too afraid of freedom, you need a big powerful government to keep you safe.
I need assistance from no one to handle a flyweight. While you are here and injected yourself in the discussion, perhaps you can tell everyone which of Ron Paul’s ideas have ever resulted in actions. Can you?
You are right about that, there is nothing that can help him. Oh but I do understand that he has an interesting selection of friends. I look no further that his good pal Lew to see another real piece of work. And Ron’s followers, the Paulbots aren’t any better as the dwell on the lunatic fringe.
The World's 100 Most Influential People: 2012 Paul does not censor himself. He comes across as sincere, earnest and independent of his party's fat cats. In the debates, only he called out the American Empire's meddling in the business of countless nations around the world. Paul, 76, draws a distinction between libertarian conservatives and those corporatist conservatives entrenching a corporate state in which Big Business merges with Big Government. That's why he is against bailouts. His defense of privacy and civil liberties and his opposition to the war on drugs endear him to people beyond his libertarian base. Ron Paul Retires From Congress; His Influence Still Abounds Even Dr. Paul stated in his farewell address to Congress that, on the surface, his career has seemingly had little influence: In many ways, according to conventional wisdom, my off-and-on career in Congress, from 1976 to 2012, accomplished very little. No named legislation, no named federal buildings or highways-thank goodness. In spite of my efforts, the government has grown exponentially, taxes remain excessive, and the prolific increase in incomprehensible regulations continues. Wars are constant and pursued without Congressional declaration, deficits rise to the sky, poverty is rampant and dependency on the federal government is worse than any time in our history. Paul added, “The ultimate solution is not in the hands of the government. The solution falls on each and every individual, with guidance from family, friends and community.” It is this sentiment that has not only set him apart from his now former colleagues, but spawned an intellectual revolution throughout the country and even the globe. Perhaps the most unique characteristic of Paul’s career and his supporters is their trademark emphasis on the importance of ideas versus personality or partisanship. Rather than parroting talking points of how he would more efficiently manage the federal government, Paul dared to ask more fundamental questions such as what is the proper role of government in the first place and why do we allow the government to meddle in our personal lives at all? From Paul’s perspective, the sole purpose of government is to protect the individual’s right to life, liberty and property and nothing more. Ron Paul's Liberty Movement Spreads in Congress The influence of Dr. Paul could also be seen in the vote on House Speaker January 3. Although Dr. Paul didn't vote against John Boehner as speaker two years ago, he was so frequently a lone vote of dissent against his own party he obtained the nickname “Dr. No” in the House. On January 3, some 13 Republican congressmen declined to vote for Boehner, many of whom got their start with the Ron Paul movement or were endorsed by Paul in the most recent election. Those 13 Republicans who voted against Boehner as speaker included veteran Representative Walter Jones (“Freedom Index” 97 percent), who was probably more influenced by Ron Paul than any other member of Congress, as well as freshmen Ted Yoho of Florida, Thomas Massie of Kentucky, and Steve Stockman of Texas. Yoho, Massie, and Stockman received an endorsement from Paul and a contribution from Paul's PAC in the past election. In addition, the new dean of the libertarian movement in Congress — Michigan's Justin Amash — voted against Boehner. Amash wrote that he was “proud to vote for Congressman Raúl R. Labrador for Speaker of the House of Representatives. Raúl would defend liberty and work honestly with Democrats on debt reduction. We must act now for the sake of our next generation.” Amash scored 92 percent on The New American's “Freedom Index” in the last Congress as a freshman congressman. Amash may be the closest ideologically to the retiring Dr. Paul, and he has taken over chairmanship of Dr. Paul's House Republican Liberty Caucus (of which Labrador is a member). Amash led the fight against the bill Congress passed in the wake of the “fiscal cliff” for its increases in federal spending. “The federal government’s refusal to live within its means is immoral. I cannot in good conscience support burdening our children and grandchildren with another $50 billion of debt,” said Amash.
Why, because they believe in LESS government? Your hatred of Ron Paul and Libertarians in general indicates that you have a pathological fear of freedom and a deep-seated need for the State to protect you. It's sad really.
It's selling. It is not because you Paulbots cannot come to an agreement as to what liberty really means since you as a whole represent a lot of different viewpoints. It is near impossible to bring a group together that tends to disagree about actual specifics. Your leaders bicker among themselves and leaves your movement devoid of any centralized leadership. Until you Libertarians get your act together, Libertarianism will never sell.
That's all you have....this one liner? Yea, it is. One need not be a Libertarian to want less government. Geeeeze....
No - statists like you and McCain aren't buying. Freedom is toooo scary for you.
Oh come on, don't try and pretend you are for smaller government. Your posting history indicates that to be a bald-faced lie.
That's silly nonsense. I have no fear of the right to act, speak, or think as one wants without hindrance or restraint. Isn't that exactly what I am doing now? And some government functions are essential. Ours is too large and needs downsizing. That idea is not the sole property of Libertarians.
I never pretend about anything, and of course I am for smaller government.
You take my posting history and make it into what you want to believe.
I am fearless....always have been.
I have no hatred, only sympathy.
His influence "still" abounds? That is based on the assumption that it ever did. Where was that?
Just wow. Name one new idea out of libertarianism in the last 50 years.
How about repealing the Orwellian monstrosity, the PATRIOT ACT. You statists love the police state.
How is repealing a law an idea?
Ahem, just last month you scurried away from LP because you were afraid some new owner would have access to what, your registration info?
Ahem, just last month you scurried away from LP because you were afraid some new owner would have access to what, your registration info? Ahem, you may recall last month Goldi inform you that she had all my personal information, that was just before she told you to shut up. Therefore, it could correct to believe she had included some or all of that information in her LP notes. Consequently a new owner would have access to what, you ask. Access to detailed personal information and not just registration info as you so stupidly suggest. I did not want someone I do not trust to have a dossier containing detailed information about me. I could never trust you with anything, especially no personal information. I am still fearless and always will be....but I will never let my fearlessness make me be stupid. I believe I have answered you question. Thank you for asking one so important.
Sorry, sport, but that is no new libertarianism idea and libertarians have no claim to ownership of this. Rep. Rush Holt (he is not a libertarian) was among the very first of a long list of critics calling for repeal. There are many calling for the repeal. In 2001 concerned members of Congress urged expiration dates on some of the Patriot Act's most controversial powers. Like Obama off the teleprompter, you also make no sense without your “copy and paste” machine in action to think for you.
I remember when the loathsome cowards were posting the address and pictures of the house of someone with the surname Gatlin living in Palmdale, insisting he must be either you or me.
Ron Paul That's from Time magazine. It is not the only thing Time got wrong:
I remember that....but I forgot who the idiot was that did it. Wait, please don't recall the screen name to me.
scurried away from LP because you [Gatlin] were afraid Ahem, just last month you scurried away from LP because you were afraid some new owner would have access to what, your registration info? Why did you give Goldi your detailed personal info? -- I never asked her for it, I just asked her to verify that you were a distinct individual, -- and were not just another of harrowups amusing fake personas. Well, I'd say giving Goldi more personal info than she needed was the panicked reaction of a stupid persona. -- But of course, I'm a bit cynical.
Nah, I never have a panic reaction....you of all people must know better than than that. I have a two questions for you:
The LF user formerly know as tater. I scurry away from not place and I am never afraid!
The cowards worked in a tpack. None of them gave up their own real names and addresses, of course. (And who would have believed them if they had pretended to?)
The cowards worked in a tpack. None of them gave up their own real names and addresses, of course. (And who would have believed them if they had pretended to?) Like infestations of piss ants with each having a different characteristic that has to be examined before slapping them down with proper forum pest control. I guess you could not help notice that "it" is following me around again.
I didn't comment on Paul just the idiots that Deckard mentioned, kinda makes you wonder how they con so many people into voting for them? I figured you for a McCain fan since you live there and claim to be a Conservative, or do you just vote for the candidate with the prettiest rhetoric?
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Well,sport....you figured wrong, in both instances. I did not vote for McCain in his run for reelection as Senator. I did something that made me feel good. I voted for his Democratic opponent. I didn't vote for his clone to replace Kyle either. I wish Kyle had continued his career in the Senate.
Ron paul ... joe biden --- what's the difference !
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
Mad cow !
Paul bots are air heads ... biden mubommbabotts are full of sh*t heads --- joined at the hips !
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
Which of Ron Paul’s ideas have ever resulted in actions?
#18. To: CZ82 (#16)
I'd bet he voted for McCain multiple times.
#19. To: Gatlin (#18)
#20. To: Palmdale (#14)
Ideas are cheap and abundant
#21. To: Gatlin (#17)
Don’t you think it is high time you stop trying to defend the indefensible?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#22. To: Gatlin, Palmdale (#20)
Ideas are cheap and abundant
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#23. To: CZ82 (#19)
#24. To: Deckard (#21)
Ron Paul does need any defense from me or anyone else.
The fact remains - he has been a positive influence on millions of Americans who still value Constitutional principles.
You wouldn't understand that, would you?
#25. To: Gatlin, Palmdale, CZ82, tpaine, sneakypete (#17)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#26. To: Gatlin (#24)
And Ron’s followers, the Paulbots aren’t any better as the dwell on the lunatic fringe.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#27. To: Deckard (#22)
Libertarianism will never sell.
#28. To: Deckard (#26)
Why, because they believe in LESS government?
#29. To: Gatlin (#27)
Libertarianism will never sell.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#30. To: Gatlin (#28)
One need not be a Libertarian to want less government.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#31. To: Deckard (#26)
...you have a pathological fear of freedom and a deep-seated need for the State to protect you.
#32. To: Deckard (#30)
Oh come on, don't try and pretend you are for smaller government.
#33. To: Deckard (#30)
Your posting history indicates....
#34. To: Deckard (#29)
Freedom is toooo scary for you.
#35. To: Deckard (#26)
Your hatred of Ron Paul and Libertarians....
#36. To: Deckard (#25)
Ron Paul Retires From Congress; His Influence Still Abounds....
#37. To: Deckard (#22)
Cut and paste ideas?
#38. To: Palmdale (#37)
Name one new idea out of libertarianism in the last 50 years.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#39. To: Gatlin (#36)
His influence "still" abounds?
#40. To: Deckard (#38)
#41. To: Gatlin, Y'ALL (#34)
I am fearless....always have been.
#42. To: tpaine (#41)
I am fearless....always have been.
#43. To: Deckard, Palmdale (#38)
Name one new idea out of libertarianism in the last 50 years.
How about repealing the Orwellian monstrosity, the PATRIOT ACT.
You statists love the police state.
#44. To: Gatlin (#42)
#45. To: Deckard (#25)
(Edited)
The World's 100 Most Influential People: 2012
Time was wrong: Burmese nationalist monk Wirathu stands vindicated.
The list goes on and on and on....
Time magazine is Wrong. Rape Culture Does Exist.
What Time Magazine Got Wrong About the Pope
#46. To: Palmdale (#44)
I remember when the loathsome cowards were posting the address and pictures of the house of someone with the surname Gatlin living in Palmdale, insisting he must be either you or me.
#47. To: tpaine (#41)
(Edited)
The LF user formerly know as tater.
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#48. To: Gatlin (#42)
-- a new owner would have access to what, you ask. Access to detailed personal information and not just registration info ----
I am still fearless and always will be....but I will never let my fearlessness make me be stupid.
#49. To: tpaine (#48)
1. Why do you stalk posters solely to pick a fight?
2. Why can't you see how obnoxious and irrelevant you are?
#50. To: hondo68 (#47)
scurried away from LP because you [Gatlin] were afraid
The LF user formerly know as tater!
#51. To: Gatlin (#46)
I remember that....but I forgot who the idiot was that did it.
#52. To: Palmdale (#51)
I remember that....but I forgot who the idiot was that did it.
#53. To: Gatlin (#23)
#54. To: CZ82 (#53)
I figured you for a McCain fan since you live there and claim to be a Conservative, or do you just vote for the candidate with the prettiest rhetoric?
#55. To: no gnu taxes (#0)
#56. To: BorisY (#55)
Ron paul ... joe biden --- what's the difference !
#57. To: Palmdale (#56)
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