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Title: Libertarians Are Taking Over The Republican Party
Source: The Daily Caller
URL Source: http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/15/l ... ing-over-the-republican-party/
Published: Jan 16, 2015
Author: W. James Antle III
Post Date: 2015-01-17 00:08:54 by Hondo68
Keywords: Libertarian Republicans, come to an accommodation, national aspirational message
Views: 93753
Comments: 144

Former Michigan Republican Rep. Thaddeus McCotter says his party’s future belongs to the libertarians.

It’s a message McCotter has been spreading in interviews and to anyone who’ll listen. He’s even laid out his case in a smart book, “Liberty Risen: The Ultimate Triumph of Libertarian-Republicans, where he claims libertarians even have something to say to the Budweiser-drinking, boxer-wearing, pro-life, Boston sheet metal worker.

Most Republicans who hype the libertarian moment are libertarians themselves. Not McCotter. He is a Russell Kirk-quoting social conservative. “I’m not a libertarian,” he jokes. “I just play one on TV.” But while fellow social conservatives like Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum slam libertarianism, McCotter believes the GOP will find a way to integrate libertarian activists who care about government surveillance the way it once assimilated evangelical Christians who cared about abortion.

“When I was still in Congress I noticed younger Republicans saying, ‘I am a conservative, but I’m libertarian on some issues,’” McCotter told The Daily Caller. “They hadn’t grown up with Reagan and seen how [conservatism] had worked. All they had seen was the decline of the Republican Party.”

“Now if you read your Russell Kirk, you can’t be both a libertarian and a conservative at the same time,” he added. “But America being what it is, you can be whatever you want.”

In the past, Republicans might have used “libertarian” as a codeword for moderate. Arlen Specter, for example, liked to describe himself as an “economic-fiscal conservative and a social libertarian.” But libertarian is no longer a Republican euphemism.

“Moderate Republicans would like Common Core,” McCotter told TheDC. “Libertarian Republicans wouldn’t like it.”

According to McCotter, the shift isn’t just political and generational. It’s mainly cultural. “The 21st century doesn’t operate top down,” he said. “You wouldn’t let someone else program your iPod. Why let a top-down bureaucracy choose your health care?” The consumer-driven, highly personalized economy will eventually have an impact on a bureaucracy mostly designed in the distant past. He quotes Andrew Breitbart as saying, “Politics is downstream from culture.”

The Libertarian Party won’t go away, he said, but libertarians who actually want to govern will do so as Republicans, like presidential candidate and former 12-term Texas Rep. Ron Paul, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul and Michigan Rep. Justin Amash.

Libertarian Republicans can come to an accommodation with social conservatives, McCotter said — note that all of the above libertarian GOPers are pro-life. Even when they disagree on the substance of a social issue, he argued they can agree federal judges shouldn’t be the final arbiters of morality. He also believes “the failure of the neoconservative movement and even some of the realist movement” and a “war-weary” country gives libertarians an opening on foreign policy by appealing to voters who want to “crush the terrorist threat there without creating a government threat here.”

That doesn’t necessarily mean Rand Paul will be the next Republican presidential nominee, however. “2016 may be too soon,” McCotter told TheDC. “In many ways, Senator Paul has an advantage in that his father was the pioneer, in other ways it’s a disadvantage.”

“Libertarian Republicans need a national aspirational message,” McCotter said. “That’s hard to do, because libertarians are so individualistic.” Purist libertarians will resist, but liberals and conservatives aren’t immune to infighting over ideological points themselves.

If Rand Paul did win the nomination, McCotter doubts many Republicans who disagree with him would sit out the race. He noted the tight 2008 Democratic contest in which Barack Obama upset Hillary Clinton, concluding, “They kept their eyes on the prize, which is the presidency.”


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#67. To: hondo68 (#0)

Did the article really mean "liberaltarians'?

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-19   16:01:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: redleghunter (#67)

"liberaltarians'?

No, libertarian conservatives...

Goldwater, Reagan, and Buckley

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-19   16:32:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: hondo68 (#70) (Edited)

No, libertarian conservatives...

Reagan was a Conservative. It is revisionist history to call him of the libertarian brand.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-19   16:59:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: redleghunter (#71)

Reagan was a Conservative. It is revisionist history to call him of the libertarian brand.

Wait for it. They'll post the following Reagan quote, typically leaving off the second paragraph.

"If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so- called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is."

"Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path."

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-19   17:06:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Palmdale (#72) (Edited)

They'll post the following Reagan quote, typically leaving off the second paragraph.

Reagan :

"But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path."

Deckard  posted on  2015-01-21   11:09:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Deckard (#100)

"But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path."

Where's the rest of the paragraph?

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-21   11:16:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Palmdale (#101) (Edited)

Where's the rest of the paragraph?

What he said in the paragraph was all well and good, but he reiterates that conservatism and libertarianism are following the same path.

You do understand that, right?

Your agenda here seems to paint libertarians as "anarchists".

Nobody but you and the other neocons statists are buying that load of malarkey.

Deckard  posted on  2015-01-21   11:21:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Deckard (#103)

What he said in the paragraph was all well and good, but he reiterates that conservatism and libertarianism are following the same path

So where's the rest of the paragraph?

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-21   11:29:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Palmdale (#104)

So where's the rest of the paragraph?

You really are too stupid and lazy to google things for yourself.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-21   12:40:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: TooConservative (#105)

You really are too stupid and lazy to google things for yourself.

That's your fallback line every time you are busted. Therefore you use it a lot.

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-21   13:35:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Palmdale (#106)

You really are too stupid and lazy to google things for yourself.

That's your fallback line every time you are busted. Therefore you use it a lot.

I typically use Yahoo or Bing rather than Google, but none reach into the nether world of this poster's musings.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-01-21   13:40:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: no gnu taxes, Palmdale (#107) (Edited)

I typically use Yahoo or Bing rather than Google, but none reach into the nether world of this poster's musings.

You two really need some supervision while surfing the interwebs.

DDG: "But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path."

The seventh entry from that DDG search:

Reason: Inside Ronald Reagan, 1975

Halfway down the webpage, you'll find the entire paragraph you were too dumb to find on your own.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-21   14:32:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: TooConservative (#109)

Nothing in this explains why you claim that Ron Paul beleives that the domestic immigration policies of France are what has caused their Muslim terrorist issues. He believes that everyone should allow these murdering savages to just do what they want.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-01-21   14:38:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: no gnu taxes, TooConservative (#110)

Nothing in this explains why you claim that Ron Paul beleives that the domestic immigration policies of France are what has caused their Muslim terrorist issues.

I cannot find it there either. I can't find anywhere Ron Paul said the he believed France's immigration polices cause the Muslim terrorist issues.

I where Ron Paul said that France's "bad foreign policy invites retaliation" in the form of the shooting at Charlie Hebdo.

You can "stretch" (as some do) and say that immigration policy is foreign policy.

Born Free  posted on  2015-01-21   14:58:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Born Free (#111)

You can "stretch" (as some do) and say that immigration policy is foreign policy.

Or they can use Rand's statement to Hannity, then stretch and say that Rand and Ron share genetic makeups.

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-21   15:45:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Palmy, gaylin, boing flea, mo nu taxes (#114)

Ron Paul is living in your head, rent free, 24/7/365.

Pwned!

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-21   15:53:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: hondo68, Palmdale (#115)

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