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Title: Breaking: U.S. Supreme Court will rule on gay ‘marriage’ issue
Source: Life Site News
URL Source: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/b ... ill-rule-on-gay-marriage-issue
Published: Jan 16, 2015
Author: Ben Johnson
Post Date: 2015-01-17 00:00:11 by redleghunter
Keywords: None
Views: 71628
Comments: 155

After more than a decade of legal wrangling and a burst of judicial activism that overturned the will of the voters in dozens of states, the U.S. Supreme Court agreed on Friday to rule on whether same-sex “marriage” is an unalienable constitutional right.

Justices announced Friday that they had consolidated four cases from the states of Ohio, Tennessee, Michigan, and Kentucky, scheduling two hearings for April.

According to the Court's document, the first 90-minute session will ask, “Does the Fourteenth Amendment require a state to license a marriage between two people of the same sex?” The second session, scheduled to last one hour, will ask, “Does the Fourteenth Amendment require a state to recognize a marriage between two people of the same sex when their marriage was lawfully licensed and performed out-of-state?”

The move comes after the High Court declined to hear a series of appeals in October, leaving states where judges had redefined marriage without legal recourse. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg hinted at a public hearing that justices could weigh in on the issue if lower court rulings began to conflict.

In November, the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals, based in Ohio, upheld the constitutionality of constitutional marriage protection amendments in four states – the four states where the justices agreed to hear appeals on Friday.

Court watchers expect a ruling before the end of the court's term in late June.

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#1. To: GarySpFC, TooConservative, Vicomte13, liberator, Don, BobCeleste, Uncle Siggy, Orthodoxa, out damned spot, A K A Stone (#0)

Ping

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-17   0:02:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: redleghunter (#1)

You get one guess how our National Theology Board will rule?

GarySpFC  posted on  2015-01-17   0:08:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: GarySpFC (#2)

Too easy. They will cave and take more states rights away.

I thought we had 4 or 5 Catholics on the court. Bad investment.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-17   0:10:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: redleghunter, GarySpFC (#3)

They will cave and take more states rights away.

I thought we had 4 or 5 Catholics on the court. Bad investment.

You know that I do not endorse the gay lifestyle. But please tell me the Constitutional basis for depriving gays the same rights that straight people have. I hope that you realize that every marriage that is recognized by the state is de facto nothing more than a civil union, even marriages perfomed by churches or other religious institutions. It is only the religious institutions that add an extra dimension to that state sanctioned civil union according to the beliefs of the respective religion, which do not in any way limit or enhance recognition of the legality and/or rights and privileges of the state sanctioned civil union.

In other words, in the eyes of the state all civil unions are equal whether performed by the secular or the religious, except those that are expressly denied by the state (e.g. - polygamy). And what is the basis for the state banning polygamy?

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-17   14:50:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: SOSO (#13)

basis for depriving gays the same rights that straight people have.

Why can't Kobe Bryant play in the womens basketball league?

Why should the government be able to redefine meanings of words?

No where in the history of man has men married men. Or vice versa. Why because that is like saying 4 + 1 = 14342352356343345

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-17   16:05:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#16)

That does not appear to an accurate statement. I don't recommend that wikipedia bt taken as a definitive source on any subject but it is a useful place to start if additional research is desired.

"Various types of same-sex unions have existed, ranging from informal, unsanctioned, and temporary relationships to highly ritualized unions that have included marriage.[1]

A same-sex union was known in Ancient Greece and Rome,[2] ancient Mesopotamia, [3] in some regions of China, such as Fujian province, and at certain times in ancient European history.[4] These same-sex unions continued until Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire.

Same-sex marital practices and rituals were more recognized in Mesopotamia than in ancient Egypt. The Almanac of Incantations contained prayers favoring on an equal basis the love of a man for a woman and of a man for man.[6]

In the southern Chinese province of Fujian, through the Ming dynasty period, females would bind themselves in contracts to younger females in elaborate ceremonies.[7] Males also entered similar arrangements. This type of arrangement was also similar in ancient European history.[8]"

But even if there wasn't historical precedents for state sanctioned gay unions, so what. This can be said about a number of things in the history of man.

"Why should the government be able to redefine meanings of words?"

Should society be allowed to do so? It happens all the time, e.g. - just look at what the widely accpeted definition of the word gay meant 50 years ago vs. today. But to your point, to what words are you referring?

"Why can't Kobe Bryant play in the womens basketball league?"

I am certain that you know the answer to that question as it relates to this thread. It's not because he is gay. Neither can Jason Collins. Both are being treated equally within the framework of the rules.

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-17   17:25:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: SOSO, Vicomte13, GarySpFc (#21)

Same-sex marital practices and rituals were more recognized in Mesopotamia than in ancient Egypt. The Almanac of Incantations contained prayers favoring on an equal basis the love of a man for a woman and of a man for man.[6]

And horrible things happened to those cultures. Wonder why?....

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-17   23:42:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: redleghunter (#78)

And horrible things happened to those cultures. Wonder why?....

Horrible things have been happening in the U.S. for decades, all of which having nothing to do with gay marriage.

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-17   23:54:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: SOSO (#81)

Horrible things have been happening in the U.S. for decades, all of which having nothing to do with gay marriage.

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Right! And the apparent increase in homosexuality along with both increase in acceptance of homosexuality to the point where acceptance is now imposed are among the worst of those terrible things.

rlk  posted on  2015-01-18   0:31:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: rlk (#93)

Right! And the apparent increase in homosexuality

Say WHAT?

Are you claiming heterosexuals are enlisting in the "homosexual army"?

Homosexuals are the same percentage of the population they have always been. You only notice them more now because there are fewer of them hiding from jail sentences and losing their jobs BECAUSE they are homosexuals.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-18   11:13:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: sneakypete (#114) (Edited)

Homosexuals are the same percentage of the population they have always been.

That statement is open to dispute in an era when homosexuality has become an acceptable substitute for engaging in an atmosphere of catastrophically failing and hostile heterosexual relationships together with acceptable or licenced or recruitment of kids into homosexuality. Homosexuality resulting from solidly organic causes is probably about the same. But homosexuality is not excusively the result of predestining organic causes. In fact, in many cases organic factors are completely irrelevant while psychological factors are determinent.

rlk  posted on  2015-01-18   12:46:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: rlk (#124)

That statement is open to dispute .....

ONLY by the people with a bias that are spreading either pro-homosexual propaganda,or the people with a bias that are spreading anti-homosexual propaganda.

The ironic,and funny,part is both are claiming there are more homosexuals than there really are because they both think that makes their cases stronger.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-18   18:25:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: sneakypete (#132)

ONLY by the people with a bias that are spreading either pro-homosexual propaganda,or the people with a bias that are spreading anti-homosexual propaganda.

That's a good argument straight from the mouth of God.

It me ask you something having to do with the basic thesis of my reply. Have you ever done psychotherapy with a gay or lesbian? Have you ever consulted anyone who has done successful psychotherapy with gays or lesbians? Have you ever consulted the scientific literature written by people who have done serious psychotherapy with gays or lesbians?

rlk  posted on  2015-01-19   0:05:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: rlk (#146)

Have you ever done psychotherapy with a gay or lesbian? Have you ever consulted anyone who has done successful psychotherapy with gays or lesbians? Have you ever consulted the scientific literature written by people who have done serious psychotherapy with gays or lesbians?

No.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-19   7:19:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: sneakypete (#147)

Have you ever done psychotherapy with a gay or lesbian? Have you ever consulted anyone who has done successful psychotherapy with gays or lesbians? Have you ever consulted the scientific literature written by people who have done serious psychotherapy with gays or lesbians?

No.

Then please refrain from talking as if you did.

rlk  posted on  2015-01-19   14:55:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: rlk (#148)

Have you ever done psychotherapy with a gay or lesbian? Have you ever consulted anyone who has done successful psychotherapy with gays or lesbians? Have you ever consulted the scientific literature written by people who have done serious psychotherapy with gays or lesbians?

No.

Then please refrain from talking as if you did.

No.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-19   16:12:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: sneakypete (#149) (Edited)

Have you ever done psychotherapy with a gay or lesbian? Have you ever consulted anyone who has done successful psychotherapy with gays or lesbians? Have you ever consulted the scientific literature written by people who have done serious psychotherapy with gays or lesbians?

No.

Then please refrain from talking as if you did.

No.

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Well, I'll talk with you on your own level of seriousness, content, and integrity.

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Yes?

rlk  posted on  2015-01-20   0:22:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: rlk (#150)

damage chad

Please tell me you are not advocating recounting Al Gore votes in FL. :)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-21   0:57:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: redleghunter (#153)

damage chad

Please tell me you are not advocating recounting Al Gore votes in FL. :)

Nope. Haven't been to Florida in 25 years.

Those words were from randomized nonsense fill words used in advertising blurbs sent to me on the internet.

rlk  posted on  2015-01-21   1:18:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#155. To: rlk (#154)

LOL just pointing out the first two words were damage and chad.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-21 01:27:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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