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Title: Egypt's Sisi is first Egyptian President to visit Christian services
Source: MEMRI
URL Source: http://youtu.be/lXm15UjpapU
Published: Jan 16, 2015
Author: MEMRI, Coptic News Channel
Post Date: 2015-01-16 11:42:39 by Orthodoxa
Keywords: Egypt, Copts, Sisi
Views: 5706
Comments: 21

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#2. To: Orthodoxa (#0)

He is gutsy, I'll give him that.

How long until they just shoot him, like Anwar Sadat?

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-16   13:29:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative (#2)

He is gutsy, I'll give him that.

How long until they just shoot him, like Anwar Sadat?

I'm sure there are plenty of radical Muzzies and neo-cons who fervently would like to see that happen.

Hopefully, his security is top-notch and he will be able to continue his campaign to bring sensibility and tolerance to that part of the world. His recent speech to Muslim Imans telling them that they needed to shape up was an eye-opener, too.

Orthodoxa  posted on  2015-01-16   13:40:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Orthodoxa (#3)

Hopefully, his security is top-notch and he will be able to continue his campaign to bring sensibility and tolerance to that part of the world. His recent speech to Muslim Imans telling them that they needed to shape up was an eye-opener, too.

Very brave. As was the French PM who finally said "France is at war with radical Islam".

If only our own Dark Messiah (or that idiot Bush) had the same courage.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-16   14:00:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: TooConservative (#4)

Was Sisi elected or selected by the military?

Good find so far. I hated to watch Egypt go down in flames with the Muslim broz.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-17   1:30:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: redleghunter (#14)

Selected. Morsi was elected. He was planning a slide to more of a sharia state. The people and the military wouldn't have it.

Many, perhaps a majority, reject that sharia path. Egypt is more sophisticated and independent than the other Arab countries and has a large Christian minority.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-17   5:05:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TooConservative, redleghunter (#15)

Selected. Morsi was elected. He was planning a slide to more of a sharia state. The people and the military wouldn't have it.

Many, perhaps a majority, reject that sharia path. Egypt is more sophisticated and independent than the other Arab countries and has a large Christian minority.

TC's summary is correct. To expand some more upon it, after Mubarak was deposed, the Muslim Brotherhood was indeed elected to power. They had been Mubarak's main opposition, and so portrayed themselves as victims as well as trying to convince Egypt's Muslims that they were their spokesmen.

For background, the Muslim Brotherhood was one of the organizations which preceeded Al Qaeda. It would be fair to describe them as a political arm of Al Qaeda. So once Morsi (Muslim Brotherhood candidate) was elected to lead Egypt, he began to do a lot of things that ordinary Egyptians objected to.

-- He began a campaign of genocide against the Copts, Egypt's fairly large Christian minority. Christian Churches were bombed, clergy and lay leaders were killed in broad daylight. Christian girls were kidnapped, and then it would be announced that they had "converted" to Islam and "married" a Muslim.

-- He began to institute Sharia law. This included overthrowing Egypt's existing Constitution.

-- He began to threaten to attack Israel, and had been aiding terrorists in crossing over from Egypt into Israel.

Egypt's military was alarmed. They wanted no war with Israel, they wanted only to protect Egypt.

Ordinary Egyptians took to the streets in protest against the Muslim Brotherhood. These were reportedly the largest political protests in the history of mankind thus far, with literally millions of people in the streets demanding the ouster of the Muslim Brotherhood.

General Sisi of Egypt's military announced that Morsi had been deposed, and most of the Muslim brotherhood leadership was arrested. Sisi has since led Egypt. Both McCain and Obama demanded that the terrorist Morsi be reinstated.

Here is how the Egyptian people reacted when the army stepped in and threw out the terrorists.

Orthodoxa  posted on  2015-01-17   8:41:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Orthodoxa (#16)

Great laydown.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-17   23:31:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#19. To: redleghunter, Too Conservative (#18) (Edited)

Tough Sisi.

Even his name is maskirovka.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-18 08:05:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: redleghunter (#18)

Great laydown.

Thanks, I've had the pleasure of meeting Coptic Christians and visiting their Churches. They are a deeply faithful people who have been under almost continuous persecution for ages, and yet continue to thrive.

Their Church services are among the longest in the world in duration. A typical Sunday service can last from 3-4 hours, and I've seen them extend them all day at times.

Their current and preceding Patriarchs (Copts title them Pope) have been brave shepherds of their flock. The Coptic Pope was seated next to General Sisi when he made his announcement that Morsi had been deposed, letting the Christians know that now the army was committed to stopping the attacks against them, but also of course making him a target from terrorists who were outraged.

The preceding Coptic Pope, Shenouda II, I had the pleasure of meeting in the past. He had been placed under house arrext for many years in the past under previous Egyptian regimes when Islamic radicals objected to the content of his sermons. I'm paraphrasing, but I recall one interview that he had with a Western news reporter where he was asked if he was worried about his Church because of all of the persecution it was under. He replied that the Coptic Church had been persecuted for most of its existence and yet still thrived. He said that he worried more for Western Churches where people had complete freedom to worship without any fear of arrest or other persecution -- but chose not to do so.

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