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Title: Ron Paul Institute: Charlie Hebdo Massacre, Like 9/11, Was a False Flag Operation
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The Weekly Standard
URL Source: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs ... lse-flag-operation_823755.html
Published: Jan 14, 2015
Author: Daniel Harper
Post Date: 2015-01-15 17:12:46 by yukon
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An institute named for the father of possible presidential candidate Rand Paul has published a piece saying the Charlie Hebdo massacre, like 9/11, was a false flag operation. The claim comes in piece titled, "Charlie Hebdo Shootings: False Flag?," put online today at the Ron Paul Institute. "The Charlie Hebdo affair has many of the characteristics of a false flag operation. The attack on the cartoonists’ office was a disciplined professional attack of the kind associated with highly trained special forces; yet the suspects who were later corralled and killed seemed bumbling and unprofessional. It is like two different sets of people," reads the first paragraph of the piece. Usually Muslim terrorists are prepared to die in the attack; yet the two professionals who hit Charlie Hebdo were determined to escape and succeeded, an amazing feat. Their identity was allegedly established by the claim that they conveniently left for the authorities their ID in the getaway car. Such a mistake is inconsistent with the professionalism of the attack and reminds me of the undamaged passport found miraculously among the ruins of the two WTC towers that served to establish the identity of the alleged 9/11 hijackers. It is a plausible inference that the ID left behind in the getaway car was the ID of the two Kouachi brothers, convenient patsies, later killed by police, and from whom we will never hear anything, and not the ID of the professionals who attacked Charlie Hebdo. An important fact that supports this inference is the report that the third suspect in the attack, Hamyd Mourad, the alleged driver of the getaway car, when seeing his name circulating on social media as a suspect realized the danger he was in and quickly turned himself into the police for protection against being murdered by security forces as a terrorist. .... Some will contend that Muslims are sufficiently stupid to shoot themselves in the head in this way. But how do we reconcile such alleged stupidity with the alleged Muslim 9/11 and Charlie Hebdo professional attacks? If we believe the official story, the 9/11 attack on the US shows that 19 Muslims, largely Saudis, without any government or intelligence service support, outwitted not only all 16 US intelligence agencies, the National Security Council, Dick Cheney and all the neoconservatives in high positions throughout the US government, and airport security, but also the intelligence services of NATO and Israel’s Mossad. How can such intelligent and capable people, who delivered the most humiliating blow in world history to an alleged Superpower with no difficulty whatsoever despite giving every indication of their intentions, possibly be so stupid as to shoot themselves in the head when they could have thrown France into turmoil with a mere lawsuit? The Charlie Hebdo story simply doesn’t wash. If you believe it, you are no match for a Muslim. One wonders what Rand Paul thinks of this crack pot conspiracy theory pushed by his father's institute.
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#26. To: TooConservative (#2)
He established it with leftover campaign funds. I think he made a poor choice for the guy who runs it. It is one of the things I think holds back the 'right' in that it keeps embracing what the mainstream consideres "kooks". I hope it does not hurt Rand Paul but it probably will.
Actually, RPI is far more a left-libertarian organization. Definitely Trutherish on some matters. And Daniel McAdams was in many of those RT videos that Marguerite posted.
To laypeople the libertarians are right wingers depsite their left- libertariaism.
Anyone who says 9/11 was a false flag is dumber than a box of rocks.
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org/Bible
I am not sure what false flag means
Hi Pericles
I support Paul because he is intellectually consistent. Even if I do not agree with him on an issue I can understand why he holds his position. For example, it is illogical to claim you want smaller govt and be pro increasing the war on drugs and spending more on a peace time military which most Republicans are doing and is intellectually illogical. Paul says he wants limited govt and is against the war on drugs and reducing military spending - I find that thinking intellectually logical.
Hi Pericles
It would take at least 40 tractor trailer loads of explosives to bring down those buildings, and months of inside ripping out walls, etc.
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org/Bible
Hi Gary
The design failed to withstand the impact and fires. Frank DeMartini died in the WTC collapse. http://www.legacy.com/sept11/story.aspx?personid=103328
But they weren't designed to withstand a controlled demolition, were they? Oh and Building 7 - NEVER hit by a plane. Infowars reporter Lee Ann McAdoo talks to Rudy Dent, 32 year veteran of NYC fire department and the NYPD, about his incredible first hand experience of the lies surrounding WTC 7. Rudy Dent completely destroys the official statements contained in the 9/11 Commission Report. As as a high-ranking Fire Marshall he was present during the collapse of Building #7 on September 11th, 2001. He is also qualified and competent to describe the controlled demolition of Building 7 and the explosion which he heard triggered the implosion. The Most Outrageous 9/11 Conspiracy Theory BBC Reports Collapse of WTC Building 7 Early Oh? Where was his testimony during the 9/11 investigation? How recently has Rudy joined the truther movement? Sorry, your propaganda is old and boring.
Oh, you're serious? It failed to mention the existence of WTC7, Able Danger, Ptech, Sibel Edmonds, OBL and the CIA, and the drills of hijacked aircraft being flown into buildings that were being simulated at the precise same time that those events were actually happening. It was lied to by the Pentagon, the CIA, the Bush Administration and as for Bush and Cheney…well, no one knows what they told it because they testified in secret, off the record, not under oath and behind closed doors. It didn’t bother to look at who funded the attacks because that question is of “little practical significance“. Still, the 9/11 Commission did brilliantly, answering all of the questions the public had (except most of the victims’ family members’ questions) and pinned blame on all the people responsible (although no one so much as lost their job), determining the attacks were “a failure of imagination” because “I don’t think anyone could envision flying airplanes into buildings ” except the Pentagon and FEMA and NORAD and the NRO.
Asked and answered - they didn't want any facts that would cast doubt on the official narrative. The entire 9/11 Commission report was a whitewash, just like the Warren Commission report.
Why didn't the government call him? Why didn't they talk about the drills going on? What about the Janitor in the basement. He is a 911 victim. is he a liar? Remember God tells you to not be "willingly ignorant".
Because there are none that confirms the story the government told. You haven't brought up any evidence. Usually just a snarky comment. Like the list that deckard put up. You have no answer to it. Why don't you have an answer to it? Because you can't address the points he made in a rational fashion. Maybe 911 wasn't an inside job. But there sure are a lot of unanswered questions. Like why is the wtc the only steel building in history to collapse because of fire. The buildings were stable after the plane hit them. If they were weakened by the planes. They would have had that part of the building fall over. Path of least resistance. Not collapse in a free fall. Building 7 wasn't even hit and it collapsed too. You have zero answer to that. You can't answer it. I will repeat you can't answer it.
I don't dispute that. Buy why did they allow 4 hijacked planes to fly on a joy rider all the way to Ohio without being intercepted. If they were real terrorists. i would think that they would have went straight to the target. Not go for a joy ride across several states first. I would think that they would be thinking get to the target before they intercept us afterall we have 4 hijacked planes. I guess that wasn't as important as them intercepting a lone private plane with that famous golfer on it. You think that passes the smell test? So far all you have offered is something we agree on. Planes crashed into wtc buildings and people saw them.
You are contradicting yourself. "Because there are none that confirms the story the government told."
Is that the best you can do? Seriously? lol
How did Bush see the first plane hit the towers? He said he did at least twice. Then he says he said "that must be one terrible accident". First off who would think it was an accident? He was lying and came up with that stroy obviously. Now if you think he made a boo boo and got confused with the second plane. Then tell me this and I have never made this point before and never seen it made before it just came to me. His saying he thought it must have been a terrible accident. Even say he was stupid and thought it was an accident. No one would have thought it was an accident on the second time. The first time wasn't on TV so he could have only seen the second one unless he was watching some CIA TV. So tell me now why would bush think it was an accident on the second hit also. This proves he is a liar. If you can't see it you are remaining willingly ignorant. W
Experts in all areas are questioning the official "fairy tale" about 9/11 Over 1400 Engineers and Architects Question the 9/11 Commission Report
You made the claim. Read the following and get back to me, okay? If you need assistance in understanding any of the presented let me know and I'll do what I can to help. www.tms.org/pubs/journals...112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html
You can't address Deckards point can you? Just like you are accusing Bob of. You just don't want to answer it. Because you have no good answer. That's ok I knew you couldn't. Thanks for proving my point.
Already answered many times. I can't help it if he and you are unable and unwilling to absorb information. Here's more for you to digest....if you are capable.
googling something and coming up with a link is not an answer. I can tell I am going to get bored with you real quick.
Why did they ignore the dozens of firemen and first responders who heard explosions? What about the molten steel that lasted for weeks afterward?
What about the molten steel that lasted for weeks afterward? He is just going to post some link he googled and didn't even read. He isn't capable of answering your legitimate questions.
Your failure to read the provided materials only proves your disinterest in increasing your knowledge and finding the truth. I won't waste my time further on you.
I think you accidently posted to me instead of Yukon. Since Yukon doesn't want to increase his knowledge or find the truth. Yukon ignored question 40.
Who ignored them? Do you know how many items can explode in a fire?
No you don't.
I'm sure you've seen the video with poofs of smoke shooting out of the wtc prior to collapse. What caused these multiple explosions on multiple floors? I'm sure someone can pull up the video. You still never answered a simple question that I asked about Bush and how he saw the first plane hit. No more questions of yours will I answer until you answer. Fair is fair.
You for one.
The fact that he remained at the school instead of being whisked away by the Secret Service is telling in itself. The Secret Service at Booker Elementary: The Dog That Did Not Bark The Sarasota Herald Tribune announced Bush's visit to Booker Elementary on September 8th, giving the 9-11 planners three days to include Bush as a target for a diving jetliner. Nobody could have safely assumed he was not a target. The Booker Elementary video shows the Secret Service did not rush in to remove the President to a secure location, or at least to the safety of the armored Presidential Limousine. That's their job. That's what they do in the case of a real surprise attack with many unknowns. They don't do anything else. But the Secret Service did nothing. The dog did not bark. Also, as you alluded, Bush somehow magically saw the first plane hit the tower. Bush at Booker Elementary THE VIDEO THAT PROVES 9/11 WAS NOT A SURPRISE You may have heard the strange story of how George Bush claimed to have seen the first plane hit the World Trade Tower on a television in Booker Elementary School before going into a classroom to hear some children read. This is a strange story because there were no live broadcasts of this impact. Still stranger was Bush's reaction on being told of the second impact by chief of staff Andrew Card. There was none. Bush simply went on with the school visit and listened to children reading about a pet goat. For twenty minutes. What caused these multiple explosions on multiple floors? No, I've seen them as the collapse begins and progresses. Who says there were multiple explosions on multiple floors. There are all kinds of items that will "explode" in a fire. Why do you believe there are warnings on aerosol cans to keep away from heat and fire. DO NOT INCINERATE. Please do a little research and stop embarrassing yourself.
Yeah those were aerosol cans popping out of the side of the building. That is a perspective I have not seen yet.
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#27. To: Pericles (#26)
It is one of the things I think holds back the 'right' in that it keeps embracing what the mainstream consideres "kooks". I hope it does not hurt Rand Paul but it probably will.
#28. To: TooConservative (#27)
#29. To: All (#0)
#30. To: GarySpFC (#29)
Anyone who says 9/11 was a false flag is dumber than a box of rocks.
But I never believed Arabs had anything to do with 9/11
So I guess this make me dumber than a box of rocks :)
I forgot how stupid I am
I haven't been on a forum in 5 years
:)
Love and kisses, Palo
#31. To: Pericles (#26)
.... I hope it does not hurt Rand Paul but it probably will.
I want Rand Paul to be our next President
I think it wwuld be good for our country
I've been a political drop out for past 4 years
So I am not as savvy as the rest of you
Seems to me the more practice Rand Paul has in answering unpleasant questions
the better
It gives him an opportunity to say what he thinks and where he stands
People get a better chance to know him
Love Palo
#32. To: Palo Verde (#31)
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#33. To: Pericles (#32)
Paul says he wants limited govt and is against the war on drugs and reducing military spending - I find that thinking intellectually logical.
I too want to stop the war on drugs, and let everyone in prison for drugs be free
As for the military budget, I guess I would cut 90 per cent of it. Let it be 10 per cent of what it is
Also get rid of CIA, FBI, NSA
Seems to me most of this is what Ron Paul promised to do on his second day in Office if elected President
But he didn't win the GOP nomination for Prez
I do think this new election now will go to GOP
I will vote for Rand Paul in the primaries
But I have no idea who will win the primaries and be the GOP candidate for Prez
I actually think this year an independent Party could win if both major Parties run candidates who will continue the status quo
As no one seems to like the direction our country is going now
Love Palo
#34. To: Palo Verde (#30)
#35. To: GarySpFC (#34)
Of course you are right
Love Palo
#36. To: GarySpFC (#34)
#37. To: Excalibur, GarySpFC (#36)
#38. To: yukon, Excalibur, GarySpFC (#37)
(Edited)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state.
Paul Craig Roberts
They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#39. To: Deckard (#38)
As as a high-ranking Fire Marshall
#40. To: yukon, Excalibur (#39)
Where was his testimony during the 9/11 investigation?
The (9/11)investigation was delayed, underfunded, set up to fail, a conflict of interest and a cover up from start to finish. It was based on testimony extracted through torture, the records of which were destroyed.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state.
Paul Craig Roberts
They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#41. To: Deckard (#40)
#42. To: yukon (#41)
(Edited)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state.
Paul Craig Roberts
They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#43. To: yukon (#39)
#44. To: A K A Stone (#43)
#45. To: yukon (#44)
So why aren't you more aware of all the other eyewitness reports, analysis by demolition, structural, fire and architectural experts?
#46. To: A K A Stone (#45)
#47. To: yukon (#46)
The government told us what many eyewitnesses told us. Planes crashed into the WTC, Pentagon and the ground in Pennsylvania. If you don't want to believe that, fine, I don't care. When you can provide evidence proving otherwise, ping me.
#48. To: A K A Stone (#47)
I don't dispute that.
#49. To: yukon (#48)
I don't dispute that. You are contradicting yourself. "Because there are none that confirms the story the government told."
#50. To: yukonk, deckard (#48)
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#51. To: yukon (#44)
So why aren't you more aware of all the other eyewitness reports, analysis by demolition, structural, fire and architectural experts?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state.
Paul Craig Roberts
They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#52. To: A K A Stone (#49)
Is that the best you can do?
#53. To: yukon (#52)
Is that the best you can do? You made the claim.
#54. To: A K A Stone (#53)
You can't address Deckards point can you?
#55. To: yukon (#54)
#56. To: yukon (#54)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state.
Paul Craig Roberts
They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#57. To: Deckard (#56)
Why did they ignore the dozens of firemen and first responders who heard explosions?
#58. To: A K A Stone (#55)
I can tell I am going to get bored with you real quick.
#59. To: yukon (#58)
Your failure to read the provided materials only proves your disinterest in increasing your knowledge and finding the truth. I won't waste my time further on you.
#60. To: Deckard (#56)
Why did they ignore the dozens of firemen and first responders who heard explosions?
#61. To: A K A Stone (#59)
I think
#62. To: yukon Deckard (#60)
Who ignored them? Do you know how many items can explode in a fire?
#63. To: yukon (#60)
Who ignored them?
#64. To: A K A Stone (#62)
(Edited)
You still never answered a simple question that I asked about Bush and how he saw the first plane hit.
1913: Congress authorized permanent [Secret Service] protection of the President and the statutory authorization for President-elect protection. [secretsevice.gov] Bush Saw The First Plane Hit! Advanced Knowledge of 9/11
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state.
Paul Craig Roberts
They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#65. To: A K A Stone (#62)
I'm sure you've seen the video with poofs of smoke shooting out of the wtc prior to collapse.
#66. To: yukon (#65)
Why do you believe there are warnings on aerosol cans to keep away from heat and fire
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