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Title: Child Services Still Hounding Couple Who Let Their Kids Play Outside
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Reason
URL Source: http://reason.com/blog/2015/01/14/c ... ps-threaten-parents-whose-kids
Published: Jan 14, 2015
Author: Lenore Skenazy
Post Date: 2015-01-15 07:47:24 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 4810
Comments: 19
You may recall the story last month of a family threatened by the authorities for letting their kids walk outside. Here's the latest from the mom, Danielle Meitiv, who is hoping the rest of the media takes note. I hope so, too. Meitiv explains via email: Dear Reason: On Monday, a Montgomery County child protective services worker went to my children's school and interviewed them without my knowledge or consent. Why? Because last month we'd let them walk home from the park by themselves. It's a mile away. They are 6 and 10. We live in suburban Maryland. Let me recap the story and then tell you where we're at. On a Saturday afternoon in December, my husband, Alexander, gave our kids permission to walk home from the local playground. I was out of town at the time. When they'd walked about halfway, a Montgomery County Police patrol car pulled up. A "helpful" neighbor had called 911 to report unaccompanied children walking outside. Our kids were brought home in a police cruiser. At the door the police officer asked to see my husband's ID, but did not explain why. When he refused, she called for backup. A total of six patrol cars showed up. Alexander then agreed to get his ID and went to go upstairs. The officer said—in front of the kids—that if he came down with anything else, "shots would be fired." She proceeded to follow him upstairs, and when he said she had no right to do so without a warrant, she insisted that she did. Our 10 yr. old called me crying and saying that the police were there and that Daddy was going to be arrested. Alexander stepped outside to continue the conversation away from the kids. When he disagreed with one of the officers about the dangers that walking alone posed to children, she asked him: "Don't you realize how dangerous the world is? Don't you watch TV?" They took notes and left. Two hours later a CPS worker arrived with a “temporary safety plan,” which she told my husband to sign. It stated that he would not leave the children unsupervised at any time before Monday morning, when someone from their office could contact him. He refused to sign it. She informed him that if he didn’t, she would instruct the police to take the children away immediately. He signed. We were then contacted by a CPS social worker named W. Don Thorne who made an appointment for us to come to his office on Friday, Jan. 9. A little while later he called back saying that he needed to come to us, so that he could see our house. We told him we would meet with him at his office, not our home. He said he would speak with his supervisor and call us back. On Monday, Mr. Thorne showed up at our door unannounced, accompanied by a police officer. He insisted that he had the right to come into our house without a warrant. I said that I was invoking my Fourth Amendment rights against unwarranted search, and would not let him in, but repeated my willingness to go to his office to answer questions. Then I noticed that he had a visitor’s sticker from my children’s elementary school on his jacket. Had he been to my children's school to interview them?! He didn't answer that question and they quickly left. I have since learned that he visited my children’s school and spoke to my children without my knowledge or consent. We do not know what actions CPS will take next. We are frightened and confused. We are good parents, educated professionals, and our children are happy, healthy, well-adjusted, and academically successful. As difficult as it is for us to believe, all of these events occurred as the result of allowing our children to walk along public streets in the middle of the afternoon without our supervision. My husband grew up in the former Soviet Union. Now he wonders if we have to just go along with whatever the authorities want us to do. I keep reminding him that we have RIGHTS in this country and that neither the police nor the bureaucrats can arbitrarily dismiss them. Read more from Reason on the Meitiv family's problems with CPS here. 
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
To ascertain if the man was indeed the father of the 2 children. COMMON SENSE!
I see nothing's changed - you're still missing the point.
Correct, I have common sense.
Common sense would have been for the cops to mind their own business and not allowed the CPS to steal the kids from their parents.
http://missingchildreninternational.org/articles/ten_reasons_why_children_disappear.html Predators are everywhere in our community. They are involved in everything we do including walking and watching our children walk to school.
Media over-hyped balderdash.
Tell that to all the parents of missing children.
Child Abductions By Strangers Very Rare As discussed in my book Media Mythmakers: How Journalists, Activists, and Advertisers Mislead Us, “While the term ‘missing child’ may conjure up visions of malevolent, trench-coated men luring children into their cars with candy or Pokémon cards, the reality is much different. The vast majority of ‘missing’ children are taken by family members, often when one divorced parent absconds with a child during legally sanctioned visitation. The child may not be where he morally or legally should be, but it is a far cry from being in a dangerous stranger’s clutches. This puts the term ‘missing’ in a whole new light, since at least one parent knew exactly where the child was. ‘Missing,’ then, is used as more of a legal word regarding the child’s status than a descriptive one designating the child’s whereabouts.” False Reports Not only are most children abducted by a parent or caregiver, but — perhaps surprisingly — many abduction reports (thankfully) turn out to be hoaxes or false alarms. In just the past week, for example, a North Carolina mother lied about her toddler being abducted from her home. An Amber Alert was issued, and police later found the child safe in Washington, D.C., with her father. 'It takes a village to raise a child,' the saying goes, but it seems nowadays the village has been replaced by vindictive busybodies. Does that make the children any less missing?
Man, you really are trolling, aren't you? Or is it just stupidity on your part? The CPS is the party in this case who is GUILTY of kidnapping the children from their parents. What I have been trying to tell you that your fear of child predators is overhyped by the media.
Answer the question if you dare. Does that make the children any less missing?
Your original premise was that the cops were right because child predators are everywhere. When I showed you facts that disproved your assertion, you moved the goalposts. I'm not playing that game with you.
No, the original premise was the cops had every right, a duty in fact, to get ID from the adult in the house proving he was the father of the children. Leviticus 19:11 'You shall not steal, nor deal falsely, nor lie to one another.
You don't think that the kids recognized their house, and their father? Dang, you must have some dumb kids! Runs in the family, no doubt.
Did you get a load of that clown with his pseudo piety quoting Bible verses? I give it a week until he's back to his usual foul and disgusting ways.
He's found Sterno and Gawd; assuming it's him.
Dangerous combination.
I hope the parents take them to federal court and sue the hell out of cps.
They have the option. The father more than likely could have avoided the whole mess by providing ID when asked.
At the door the police officer asked to see my husband's ID, but did not explain why.
#2. To: yukon (#1)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
#3. To: Deckard (#2)
I see nothing's changed
#4. To: yukon (#3)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
#5. To: Deckard (#0)
As difficult as it is for us to believe, all of these events occurred as the result of allowing our children to walk along public streets in the middle of the afternoon without our supervision.
#6. To: yukon (#5)
Predators are everywhere in our community.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
#7. To: Deckard (#6)
Media over-hyped balderdash.
#8. To: yukon (#7)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
#9. To: Deckard (#8)
The vast majority of ‘missing’ children are taken by family members
#10. To: yukon (#9)
Does that make the children any less missing?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
#11. To: Deckard (#10)
#12. To: yukon (#11)
Answer the question if you dare. Does that make the children any less missing?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
#13. To: Deckard (#12)
(Edited)
Your original premise was that the cops were right because child predators are everywhere.
#14. To: yukon (#1)
To ascertain if the man was indeed the father of the 2 children. COMMON SENSE!
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#15. To: hondo68 (#14)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state.
Paul Craig Roberts
They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#16. To: Deckard (#15)
#17. To: Fred Mertz (#16)
He's found Sterno and Gawd;
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state.
Paul Craig Roberts
They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#18. To: yukon (#11)
#19. To: TEA Party Reveler (#18)
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