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War in Ukraine Turns on Russia what happened during total solar eclipse Israel Attacks Iran, Report Says - LIVE Breaking News Coverage Earth is Scorched with Heat Antiwar Activists Chant ‘Death to America’ at Event Featuring Chicago Alderman Vibe Shift A stream that makes the pleasant Rain sound. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In United States News See other United States News Articles Title: Street Cred: Documents: Ted Cruz Ticketed For Alcohol Possession As A Minor In 1987 Source: [None] URL Source: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewi ... witter.com&utm_campaign=buffer Published: Jan 15, 2015 Author: AHIZA GARCIA Post Date: 2015-01-15 00:16:06 by A K A Stone Keywords: None Views: 11712 Comments: 29 Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) received a ticket for being a minor in possession of alcohol in 1987, when he was a senior in high school, BuzzFeed News reported on Tuesday night. The revelation was discovered in an application, obtained by BuzzFeed, which Cruz completed for the position of Texas solicitor general back in 2003. According to the report, police found an unopened case of beer in Cruz's vehicle and issued him a ticket for the offense. “Teenagers often make foolish mistakes, and that certainly applied to me as well,” Cruz told BuzzFeed News in a statement. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 29. #8. To: A K A Stone (#0) 1987. I think that whenever anybody digs up anything about anybody from 1987, that the person who did the digging, and everybody who assists him, should have the entire record of all of the Internet sites he has ever accessed in his whole life, and every e-mail he ever sent to anybody all released by Echelon to the public in searchable format, so that every creepy, strange or freaky thing that man or woman ever said, did or looked at through the Internet, during his entire life, is exposed to the whole world. Further, all of his tax returns and schedules should be released to the public by the IRS, and all of his grades and student records and papers should be released by all colleges and schools. Private investigators should be completely exposed to the public - every document held in any public or electronic record should be exposed, so that everybody can see everything, and probe and explore and read all of it. Either that or maybe we just draw a line under stuff that's over 7 years old and say: statute of limitations has run, don't care, don't want to know - and consider those who dig up ancient history to be the creeps they are. 1987. Anything that anybody did in 1987 is irrelevant to 2015. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-15   9:52:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #24. To: Vicomte13, A K A Stone (#8) Anything that anybody did in 1987 is irrelevant to 2015. How about in 1939? Or in 325 AD? Or about two thousand years ago? SOSO  posted on  2015-01-17   13:42:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: SOSO (#24) Anything that anybody did in 1987 is irrelevant to 2015. How about in 1939? Or in 325 AD? Or about two thousand years ago? It's a fair question. My statement was hyperbolic. Anything petty that anybody did in 1987. Murdering somebody - that still matters. Speeding, drinking, etc. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-17   22:20:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: All (#26) Speeding, drinking, public urination: those things don't matter. Petty theft doesn't matter. If the statute of limitations has run on the crime, then it doesn't matter - that's a good rule of thumb. Obama said in his Kindergarten papers that he was going to be President one day. Clearly he was a power- mad despot at age 5, who bore watching! Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-17   23:03:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: Vicomte13 (#27) Does alcohol come under pharmikia? How about marijuna? SOSO  posted on  2015-01-17   23:57:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: SOSO (#28) Does alcohol come under pharmikia? How about marijuna? Alcohol, no. Wine and strong drink are spoken of specifically throughout Scripture. They're their own class of thing, with due warnings given about the consumption of excess. Marijuana may be. Pharmakeia refers especially to the peddling of drugs to produce states of sorcery. There is a difference, certainly, between a casual, curious user who gets a buzz, like alcohol, and somebody like Obama and his Choom gang who got stoned all the time in their youth - but even THAT may not be pharmakeia if the purpose was not to engage in sorcery (though perhaps the altered state IS the sorcery) - not perfectly clear. But probably more important, a pharmakon was somebody out there PEDDLING the substances to bring on the sorcerous state. "Pharmakeia" more certainly means "Drugger" - someone who drugs people (peddlers) than it does "Druggie", though it can mean that too. Trouble is, we share the world with angels and demons, and the demons are after us. It's bad enough to walk the line and deal with temptation sober. Alcohol certainly will take a man over the edge if he drinks too much of it, and let in the demons, but alcohol is known and understood, and was known and understood by the ancients too: water was unsanitary, so healthful drinks were those drinks that are hydrating alcohols - weak beers, weak wines, weak ales - because the alcohol really knocks back the infectiousness, but the content is so low that it doesn't dehydrate. People drank a lot of weak wine and weak beer, it was healthy. But strengthen it, distill it more, let it ferment more, put in more honey so the alcohol is stronger, or don't dilute the wine enough, and the drink becomes stronger and stronger, starts to make you drunk faster and dehydrate you. This is why alcoholic drinks are a special case. They are positively healthful, especially in an ancient environment, and were consumed every day as the primary source of hydration. God didn't draw some odd, rigid Germanic line across the human food and water supply and say "No!" to alcoholic beverages, because they were a staple, and necessary. So alcohol was its own case in Scripture. Drinking too much of it does indeed soften the body and mind, and open the mind to demons too. But pure drugs - these are not part of the food supply. They're not staples. All they do is alter the mind. A people living closer to reality knew the reality of spirits, angels and demons better than we do: we have forgotten. They also knew the supernatural more closely, being more attentive to it. Altered states both simulate the supernatural, and bring on the urge for the supernatural, and weaken the defenses against the evil part of the supernatural. Bref: many (most?) people today seek to get high just because it feels good, and don't ideate that they are actively trying to gain access to the power of spirits to do magic, with the altered state caused by drugs "proof", to them, of the presence of magic. But the ancients knew that these magical potions and leaves - these drugs - were opening the supernatural and its power to them, because they FELT the power. And through those portals of altered states came demons and spirits and lesser gods and all sorts of things that might be harnessed for a purpose. Hence, the ancient pharmakon made a profit peddling access to sorcery and the world of spirits through drugs. That made it particularly evil, because of the intent, and because the people were intentionally opening themselves up to demons and spirits in order to do the supernatural. Of course those who were SUCCESSFUL at harnessing the spirits had in fact given themselves over to demons. So that's the nested thicket. Today, people get high because they like the feeling. They don't think they're channeling spirits, and they're not trying to access demons to cast spells, so the mens rea of committing sorcery is not there. What marijuana and crack smokers today are doing is a lesser offense. They're using drugs, yes, but they're not consciously seeking to open a portal to demons and spirits. They're just feeling the effects. Santaria and voodoo are exceptions: they're getting high in order to channel spirits and cast spells: THAT is the really bad stuff. And the worst of all is being the Pharmakon, the PEDDLER of that, seeking to profit through the laying open and laying waste of human spirits. The drug peddler today is aiming at money, and the drug user is aiming at a high. Neither thinks he's channelling demons. The intent is not the same. However, the demons really are there, and really do come in, and they do possess people and cause them to do all of the evil and psychotic crimes we see druggies do. Pharmakeia and its Pharmakons in voodoo are headed for the fire, there's little doubt of that. Druggies and druggers who aren't intentionally channelling spirits but seeking an effect (that DOES in fact open the door to demons, but they don't know it)...are they practicing pharmakeia, and are the dealers pharmakons? I don't know. God knows. I have an opinion, what I personally think, but God never spoke to me on this subject, so why add more verbiage. I've presented the facts of the word and the history and the underlying interface between drugs, magic and demonic possession. I've spoken about why alcohol is certainly not pharmakeia, but how it can produce the identical effect by letting in demons. From the description, it's clear that tobacco isn't either - but given it's known deadliness, its vendors may not be pharmakons, but simply peddlers of poison. Or not. I have no real thought through opinion on that, just spotting the issue. When Jesus said those words to John, it was the First Century. The culture was the Eastern part of the Roman Empire, the Greek part, the "Churches in Asia". The particular temptations of the time were on the plate: lying is a perennial, idolatry: the Greco-Romans prayed to statues of false gods and carried them around; cowardice - a temptation in the face of religious persecution. Then there are a whole list of words and descriptions of sexual degradation - porneis, abominable, being a "dog" - this was a slave society that was not Christian. We know from the ruins of Pompeii and Herculaneum that the Greco- Roman civilization was heavily sexualized, and not in a vicarious Internet porn way, but a go down daily and do what you want with slaves sort of way, the way that we might go down to the pub after work. We know that there was always a glut of fresh flesh in an empire that was about 40% slave - and an empire in which bloody death and public torture were forms of public entertainment put on by the leaders. Take the darkest corners of Internet porn and make THAT the norm of public entertainment, and the depths of Greco-Roman depravity are visible. St. Augustine describes how he and his friends went to what sounds like a bar to watch slaves put into a pit to slaughter each other. One whole level of the Roman collosseum consisted of sex slaves to allow the crowds, inflamed by what they saw in the arena, to come and work off their aroused passions for the economic benefit of the owners. The empire into which Jesus was born and where the Apostles walked (and where every one of them was tortured to death except John, who was tortured but where he did not die), was a very sick place, and the list of things that would get a man damned speak of the ills that John and his immediate readers would all recognize. Murder, lying, cowardice, idolatry, pharmakeia/sorcery, and a whole parade of words speaking of sexual and passionate vice. And yet we see that Jesus' entourage, his followers, tilted towards the bottom end - the slaves, including the prostitutes. Isn't there a disconnect? If sexual immorality leads to the fire, how is it that Jesus is so mild and kind to the prostitutes in particular? Aren't they headed for the fire? Probably not. Slaves are not committing sexual immorality. Slaves are being used. The clients who walk in the door of their own volition and lay their money down - THEY are the ones who have a choice in the matter. And in a society full of idols, and excess drinking, and pharmakeia and omens and bloodshed, the people everywhere were full of demons, wide open to them and infested with them. Thus the ravening, insane, unnatural hatred of the early Christians, something that we are only beginning to see creep back into our society...as we open the door up to demons by what? By regularizing fornication and porneia, by opening the door to the use of the drugs of pharmakeia - letting in the devils without, yet, pretending to be casting spells (but note Lady Gaga: "I can't write unless I am high" - is it YOU that's really doing the writing, Gaga?). By opening up abomination: normalizing sodomy and even "sanctifying" it with marriage. Look at the list of sins that will get you thrown into the fire if you voluntarily do them and don't repent, and then look at the "progressive" agenda of relaxing the "corset" of Christian society, that kept most of these things (lying has always been pretty rampant) at a much lower and less conspicuous, or acceptable level. Men and woman have always fornicated, but they didn't flaunt it. Men and men have always diddled, but they did it furtively and they hid it. Adultery is nothing new, but there's a lot more of it in Hollywood than there is in Boston. And so on. And the problem for US is that we're all free. Slaves aren't accountable for what's done to them. Free men are accountable for what they do, however, and for what they allow to be done. The act itself is just an act, just as wine is just wine. Wine can be a sacrament of the lord, and drinking at least some of it is vital for living forever ("unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood you have no life in you"). Too much wine will kill you, and open you up to demons before that. The mental state, the reason, the WHY - not just the What - this is key. And it's why God is the judge. Is marijuana pharmakeia? It can be. Peddlers are closer to pharmakons than casual users are to sorcerers. But it's not wine, it doesn't have a purpose, it's noxious and bad, it opens a man up to demons and self destruction. A toke will not get you thrown into the fire - we were given all the plants for use - but a habit will turn into worse and worse things, and unleashes a whole avalanche of bad things. And it may well end up being pharmakeia in the end. It's not clear cut where the line is. But it's clear enough that it's bad. And whereas God commanded us to drink at least a little wine, in memory of him, he didn't command us to alter our minds and expose ourselves to demons. Compared to the murder of 2 million babies in abortion mills every year, a pot buzz is small beer. The first is clearly and absolutely murder, and leads to damnation and destruction and cataclysm. Smoking pot is like deciding to have the third glass of strong wine. Why are you doing this? To get high. That's the only reason. And that's standing on the threshold of bad. Jews are traditionally REQUIRED to get drunk on Purim, as a celebration of their salvation from extermination. That's not going to destroy anybody's eternal life. Presumably God protected that particular rite from letting the demons in. There's no assurance that the first hit of LSD isn't going to open the door to a demon and permanently wreck the mind. We don't have the full answers, but we were given the faculty of reason, and we can see that drugs are not going to lead to anything good. Whether a specific use is pharmakon or not, it would depend on the purpose. But you don't have to be INTENDING to summon a demon to get possessed by one if you open the door. And if you fornicated one, or fifty, times, are you headed for the fire? Of course. But you can repent and you can forgive and be forgiven. In fact, that's the ONLY thing you can do to be forgiven. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-18   9:45:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 29.         There are no replies to Comment # 29. End Trace Mode for Comment # 29. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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