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Title: Street Cred: Documents: Ted Cruz Ticketed For Alcohol Possession As A Minor In 1987
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Published: Jan 15, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-01-15 00:16:06 by A K A Stone
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Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) received a ticket for being a minor in possession of alcohol in 1987, when he was a senior in high school, BuzzFeed News reported on Tuesday night.

The revelation was discovered in an application, obtained by BuzzFeed, which Cruz completed for the position of Texas solicitor general back in 2003.

According to the report, police found an unopened case of beer in Cruz's vehicle and issued him a ticket for the offense.

“Teenagers often make foolish mistakes, and that certainly applied to me as well,” Cruz told BuzzFeed News in a statement.

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

LOL the stuff the left and RINO operatives dig up on people. We have sitting politicians today, right now committing crimes against humanity just by opening their pie hole.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name (John 1:12)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-15   0:19:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) received a ticket for being a minor in possession of alcohol in 1987, when he was a senior in high school, BuzzFeed News reported on Tuesday night.

Ted Cruz is weird.

According to Wikipedia:

Cruz attended high school at Faith West Academy in Katy, Texas,[32] and later graduated from Second Baptist High School in Houston as valedictorian in 1988.[17] During high school, Cruz participated in a Houston-based group called the Free Market Education Foundation where Cruz learned about free-market economic philosophers such as Milton Friedman, Friedrich Hayek, Frédéric Bastiat and Ludwig von Mises.[26] The program was run by Rolland Storey and Cruz entered the program at the age of 13.

It's a pretty safe bet that the beer in the trunk was actually a bribe to stop a group of HS football players from beating him up.

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2015-01-15   6:03:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Willie Green (#2)

It's a pretty safe bet that the beer in the trunk was actually a bribe to stop a group of HS football players from beating him up.

So you're insinuating that Ted Cruz is actually a Progressive? Now that's funny.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-01-15   6:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: CZ82 (#3)

So you're insinuating that Ted Cruz is actually a Progressive? Now that's funny.

No, I'm insinuating that he didn't have many friends in high school because he's weird... just like that creepy recitation of Dr. Seuss on the Senate floor... Cruz is simply weird, creepy and strange... Who knows what bizarre delusions drives him?

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2015-01-15   6:29:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Willie Green (#4)

No, I'm insinuating that he didn't have many friends in high school because he's weird...

Who knows what bizarre delusions drives him?

First you say no and then you say yes, which is it?

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-01-15   6:37:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone, *Neo-Lib Chickenhawk Wars* (#0)

an unopened case of beer

The first thing any self respecting juvenile delinquent would have done is to pop a top. This story doesn't pass the sniff test.


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Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-15   6:43:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: CZ82 (#5)

First you say no and then you say yes, which is it?

You're deluding yourself if you believe only "progressives" can be delusional.

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2015-01-15   7:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#0)

1987.

I think that whenever anybody digs up anything about anybody from 1987, that the person who did the digging, and everybody who assists him, should have the entire record of all of the Internet sites he has ever accessed in his whole life, and every e-mail he ever sent to anybody all released by Echelon to the public in searchable format, so that every creepy, strange or freaky thing that man or woman ever said, did or looked at through the Internet, during his entire life, is exposed to the whole world.

Further, all of his tax returns and schedules should be released to the public by the IRS, and all of his grades and student records and papers should be released by all colleges and schools.

Private investigators should be completely exposed to the public - every document held in any public or electronic record should be exposed, so that everybody can see everything, and probe and explore and read all of it.

Either that or maybe we just draw a line under stuff that's over 7 years old and say: statute of limitations has run, don't care, don't want to know - and consider those who dig up ancient history to be the creeps they are.

1987.

Anything that anybody did in 1987 is irrelevant to 2015.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-15   9:52:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

“Teenagers often make foolish mistakes, and that certainly applied to me as well,” Cruz told BuzzFeed News in a statement.

Good answer.

If he had a DUI or two he'd qualify to be Pres or Veep like Bush/Cheney.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-15   9:57:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Vicomte13, willie green (#8)

Wow, this is impressive. Much more friendly than the title Stone created for me. Also accurate compared to what Stone created for me.

Pretty much everything. That is why I posted this. It is laughable. It will just give himj "street cred"

Ted Cruz is an outstanding Senator and hopefully our next President. He can be trusted to do what he asys more then anyone else up there right now. What he wants to do is also the right thing.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-15   10:16:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#10)

Cruz is just another free-trader with a "China First!" agenda.
No big difference between him and Romney or Bush as far as I'm concerned
He represents Wall Street, not Main Street...

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2015-01-15   11:01:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Willie Green (#7)

So what do Conservatives do that is delusional? (And I'm not talking about the Faux variety either).

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-01-16   21:27:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: CZ82 (#12)

So what do Conservatives do that is delusional?

The "War on Drugs" is pretty stupid.
Prohibition of alcohol didn't work in the 1920's... all it did was enable and enrich organized crime.
And that's the only thing that the "War on Drugs" is accomplishing today... on an international scale.

That's just one example...

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2015-01-17   5:42:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Willie Green (#13)

True, they could change a few laws here and there and the War on Drugs would pretty much fade off into the past, but there is too much money to be made fighting it.

On the other hand I don't see too many people on the Left screaming bloody murder about it. They see it as an opportunity to continue down the path to 3rd world dictatorship and make some money themselves.

Next example please......

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-01-17   9:05:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: CZ82 (#14)

Next example please......

Abolish the EPA...

Without the Clean Air & Water Act, we'd be totally engulfed in toxic waste.

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2015-01-17   9:39:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Willie Green (#15)

Abolish it no, put someone in charge that has half a brain yes.

The EPA is nothing more than a place for old ignored Communists to go so they can take out their hatred of the US on the citizens of the US!

Next example please.....

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-01-17   9:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: CZ82 (#16)

put someone in charge that has half a brain yes.

The trouble is, they don't do that.
Big Business always finds a fox to guard the henhouse.

Next example please.....

Fully fund maintenance and upgrades of our public transportation infrastructure, including airways, waterways, highways, railways and mass transit. Modern, efficient transportation is a crucial requisite for commerce and economic growth. Private special interests cannot be permitted to obstruct transportation alternatives for their own gain.

Weyrich & Lind:

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2015-01-17   10:35:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Willie Green (#17)

Fully fund maintenance and upgrades of our public transportation infrastructure, including airways, waterways, highways, railways and mass transit. Modern, efficient transportation is a crucial requisite for commerce and economic growth. Private special interests cannot be permitted to obstruct transportation alternatives for their own gain.

The gas tax should be only for roads bridges etc.

They need to dismantle the giveaway programs like welfare communist security etc. Then they will have money for the things you mention.

As it is the parasite democratic voters want something for nothing. The brain dead Americans that vote for Democrats are the reason the infrastructure is crumbling in many places.

So again repel the new deal and the great society. Then get rid of NAFTA GATT etc. That is a good start.

But you will have freeloaders crying. They will say my back hurts I need disability. But like Rand Paul said all of us over 40 have back pains. Get over it quit being a lazy parasite and get a job.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-17   10:41:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

Discussing the merits or faults of Ted Cruz is ultimately a waste of time.

He has as much chance of becoming the repubican nominee - let alone POTUS - as I do. And I'm not even running.

Any official Ted Cruz run for the presidency will be killed in its infancy. By Big Money and by Big Media

Count on it.

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-01-17   10:59:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#18)

But like Rand Paul said all of us over 40 have back pains. Get over it quit being a lazy parasite and get a job.

Rand Paul debunked by PolitiFact

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2015-01-17   11:05:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: All (#20)

According to the report, police found an unopened case of beer in Cruz's vehicle and issued him a ticket for the offense.

This pales in comparison to our heroin addicted, coke snorting mulatto-in chief.

Vinny  posted on  2015-01-17   11:54:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The HORRORS!

And here I was,considering voting for this lowlife criminal scum!(S)

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-17   13:36:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: redleghunter (#1)

LOL the stuff the left and RINO operatives dig up on people. We have sitting politicians today, right now committing crimes against humanity just by opening their pie hole.

We have Alcee Hastings,Dim-Flori-dun,sitting as the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee,and before he became a congresscritter he was a sitting federal judge that was impeached and removed from the bench after being convicted of taking bribes to throw trials.

We have John Kerry,as Sec of State who admitted in his book that he shot innocent unarmed women and children in "fee fire zones" in VN with a 50 caliber machine gun from the safety of his boat,because he "could".

Bubba Bill and his "It all depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is,.

ETC,ETC,ETC.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-17   13:40:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Vicomte13, A K A Stone (#8)

Anything that anybody did in 1987 is irrelevant to 2015.

How about in 1939? Or in 325 AD? Or about two thousand years ago?

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-17   13:42:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Fred Mertz (#9)

If he had a DUI or two he'd qualify to be Pres or Veep like Bush/Cheney.

Or if he was a anti-American fool,like FDR,Jimmy Carter,etc,etc,etc.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-17   13:43:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: SOSO (#24)

Anything that anybody did in 1987 is irrelevant to 2015.

How about in 1939? Or in 325 AD? Or about two thousand years ago?

It's a fair question.

My statement was hyperbolic.

Anything petty that anybody did in 1987. Murdering somebody - that still matters. Speeding, drinking, etc.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-17   22:20:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: All (#26)

Speeding, drinking, public urination: those things don't matter.

Petty theft doesn't matter.

If the statute of limitations has run on the crime, then it doesn't matter - that's a good rule of thumb.

Obama said in his Kindergarten papers that he was going to be President one day. Clearly he was a power- mad despot at age 5, who bore watching!

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-17   23:03:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Vicomte13 (#27)

Does alcohol come under pharmikia? How about marijuna?

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-17   23:57:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: SOSO (#28)

Does alcohol come under pharmikia? How about marijuna?

Alcohol, no. Wine and strong drink are spoken of specifically throughout Scripture. They're their own class of thing, with due warnings given about the consumption of excess.

Marijuana may be. Pharmakeia refers especially to the peddling of drugs to produce states of sorcery. There is a difference, certainly, between a casual, curious user who gets a buzz, like alcohol, and somebody like Obama and his Choom gang who got stoned all the time in their youth - but even THAT may not be pharmakeia if the purpose was not to engage in sorcery (though perhaps the altered state IS the sorcery) - not perfectly clear.

But probably more important, a pharmakon was somebody out there PEDDLING the substances to bring on the sorcerous state.

"Pharmakeia" more certainly means "Drugger" - someone who drugs people (peddlers) than it does "Druggie", though it can mean that too.

Trouble is, we share the world with angels and demons, and the demons are after us. It's bad enough to walk the line and deal with temptation sober. Alcohol certainly will take a man over the edge if he drinks too much of it, and let in the demons, but alcohol is known and understood, and was known and understood by the ancients too: water was unsanitary, so healthful drinks were those drinks that are hydrating alcohols - weak beers, weak wines, weak ales - because the alcohol really knocks back the infectiousness, but the content is so low that it doesn't dehydrate. People drank a lot of weak wine and weak beer, it was healthy. But strengthen it, distill it more, let it ferment more, put in more honey so the alcohol is stronger, or don't dilute the wine enough, and the drink becomes stronger and stronger, starts to make you drunk faster and dehydrate you. This is why alcoholic drinks are a special case. They are positively healthful, especially in an ancient environment, and were consumed every day as the primary source of hydration. God didn't draw some odd, rigid Germanic line across the human food and water supply and say "No!" to alcoholic beverages, because they were a staple, and necessary. So alcohol was its own case in Scripture.

Drinking too much of it does indeed soften the body and mind, and open the mind to demons too.

But pure drugs - these are not part of the food supply. They're not staples. All they do is alter the mind. A people living closer to reality knew the reality of spirits, angels and demons better than we do: we have forgotten. They also knew the supernatural more closely, being more attentive to it. Altered states both simulate the supernatural, and bring on the urge for the supernatural, and weaken the defenses against the evil part of the supernatural.

Bref: many (most?) people today seek to get high just because it feels good, and don't ideate that they are actively trying to gain access to the power of spirits to do magic, with the altered state caused by drugs "proof", to them, of the presence of magic. But the ancients knew that these magical potions and leaves - these drugs - were opening the supernatural and its power to them, because they FELT the power. And through those portals of altered states came demons and spirits and lesser gods and all sorts of things that might be harnessed for a purpose. Hence, the ancient pharmakon made a profit peddling access to sorcery and the world of spirits through drugs. That made it particularly evil, because of the intent, and because the people were intentionally opening themselves up to demons and spirits in order to do the supernatural. Of course those who were SUCCESSFUL at harnessing the spirits had in fact given themselves over to demons. So that's the nested thicket.

Today, people get high because they like the feeling. They don't think they're channeling spirits, and they're not trying to access demons to cast spells, so the mens rea of committing sorcery is not there. What marijuana and crack smokers today are doing is a lesser offense. They're using drugs, yes, but they're not consciously seeking to open a portal to demons and spirits. They're just feeling the effects. Santaria and voodoo are exceptions: they're getting high in order to channel spirits and cast spells: THAT is the really bad stuff. And the worst of all is being the Pharmakon, the PEDDLER of that, seeking to profit through the laying open and laying waste of human spirits.

The drug peddler today is aiming at money, and the drug user is aiming at a high. Neither thinks he's channelling demons. The intent is not the same. However, the demons really are there, and really do come in, and they do possess people and cause them to do all of the evil and psychotic crimes we see druggies do.

Pharmakeia and its Pharmakons in voodoo are headed for the fire, there's little doubt of that. Druggies and druggers who aren't intentionally channelling spirits but seeking an effect (that DOES in fact open the door to demons, but they don't know it)...are they practicing pharmakeia, and are the dealers pharmakons? I don't know. God knows. I have an opinion, what I personally think, but God never spoke to me on this subject, so why add more verbiage.

I've presented the facts of the word and the history and the underlying interface between drugs, magic and demonic possession. I've spoken about why alcohol is certainly not pharmakeia, but how it can produce the identical effect by letting in demons.

From the description, it's clear that tobacco isn't either - but given it's known deadliness, its vendors may not be pharmakons, but simply peddlers of poison. Or not. I have no real thought through opinion on that, just spotting the issue.

When Jesus said those words to John, it was the First Century. The culture was the Eastern part of the Roman Empire, the Greek part, the "Churches in Asia". The particular temptations of the time were on the plate: lying is a perennial, idolatry: the Greco-Romans prayed to statues of false gods and carried them around; cowardice - a temptation in the face of religious persecution. Then there are a whole list of words and descriptions of sexual degradation - porneis, abominable, being a "dog" - this was a slave society that was not Christian. We know from the ruins of Pompeii and Herculaneum that the Greco- Roman civilization was heavily sexualized, and not in a vicarious Internet porn way, but a go down daily and do what you want with slaves sort of way, the way that we might go down to the pub after work. We know that there was always a glut of fresh flesh in an empire that was about 40% slave - and an empire in which bloody death and public torture were forms of public entertainment put on by the leaders. Take the darkest corners of Internet porn and make THAT the norm of public entertainment, and the depths of Greco-Roman depravity are visible.

St. Augustine describes how he and his friends went to what sounds like a bar to watch slaves put into a pit to slaughter each other. One whole level of the Roman collosseum consisted of sex slaves to allow the crowds, inflamed by what they saw in the arena, to come and work off their aroused passions for the economic benefit of the owners.

The empire into which Jesus was born and where the Apostles walked (and where every one of them was tortured to death except John, who was tortured but where he did not die), was a very sick place, and the list of things that would get a man damned speak of the ills that John and his immediate readers would all recognize. Murder, lying, cowardice, idolatry, pharmakeia/sorcery, and a whole parade of words speaking of sexual and passionate vice.

And yet we see that Jesus' entourage, his followers, tilted towards the bottom end - the slaves, including the prostitutes. Isn't there a disconnect? If sexual immorality leads to the fire, how is it that Jesus is so mild and kind to the prostitutes in particular? Aren't they headed for the fire?

Probably not. Slaves are not committing sexual immorality. Slaves are being used. The clients who walk in the door of their own volition and lay their money down - THEY are the ones who have a choice in the matter. And in a society full of idols, and excess drinking, and pharmakeia and omens and bloodshed, the people everywhere were full of demons, wide open to them and infested with them.

Thus the ravening, insane, unnatural hatred of the early Christians, something that we are only beginning to see creep back into our society...as we open the door up to demons by what? By regularizing fornication and porneia, by opening the door to the use of the drugs of pharmakeia - letting in the devils without, yet, pretending to be casting spells (but note Lady Gaga: "I can't write unless I am high" - is it YOU that's really doing the writing, Gaga?). By opening up abomination: normalizing sodomy and even "sanctifying" it with marriage. Look at the list of sins that will get you thrown into the fire if you voluntarily do them and don't repent, and then look at the "progressive" agenda of relaxing the "corset" of Christian society, that kept most of these things (lying has always been pretty rampant) at a much lower and less conspicuous, or acceptable level. Men and woman have always fornicated, but they didn't flaunt it. Men and men have always diddled, but they did it furtively and they hid it. Adultery is nothing new, but there's a lot more of it in Hollywood than there is in Boston. And so on.

And the problem for US is that we're all free. Slaves aren't accountable for what's done to them. Free men are accountable for what they do, however, and for what they allow to be done. The act itself is just an act, just as wine is just wine. Wine can be a sacrament of the lord, and drinking at least some of it is vital for living forever ("unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood you have no life in you"). Too much wine will kill you, and open you up to demons before that. The mental state, the reason, the WHY - not just the What - this is key.

And it's why God is the judge.

Is marijuana pharmakeia? It can be. Peddlers are closer to pharmakons than casual users are to sorcerers. But it's not wine, it doesn't have a purpose, it's noxious and bad, it opens a man up to demons and self destruction. A toke will not get you thrown into the fire - we were given all the plants for use - but a habit will turn into worse and worse things, and unleashes a whole avalanche of bad things. And it may well end up being pharmakeia in the end.

It's not clear cut where the line is. But it's clear enough that it's bad. And whereas God commanded us to drink at least a little wine, in memory of him, he didn't command us to alter our minds and expose ourselves to demons.

Compared to the murder of 2 million babies in abortion mills every year, a pot buzz is small beer. The first is clearly and absolutely murder, and leads to damnation and destruction and cataclysm. Smoking pot is like deciding to have the third glass of strong wine. Why are you doing this? To get high. That's the only reason. And that's standing on the threshold of bad.

Jews are traditionally REQUIRED to get drunk on Purim, as a celebration of their salvation from extermination. That's not going to destroy anybody's eternal life. Presumably God protected that particular rite from letting the demons in. There's no assurance that the first hit of LSD isn't going to open the door to a demon and permanently wreck the mind.

We don't have the full answers, but we were given the faculty of reason, and we can see that drugs are not going to lead to anything good. Whether a specific use is pharmakon or not, it would depend on the purpose. But you don't have to be INTENDING to summon a demon to get possessed by one if you open the door.

And if you fornicated one, or fifty, times, are you headed for the fire? Of course. But you can repent and you can forgive and be forgiven. In fact, that's the ONLY thing you can do to be forgiven.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-18   9:45:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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