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Title: What would it take to get Pericles to come here and post.
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Published: Jan 12, 2015
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2015-01-12 20:37:53 by A K A Stone
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I read a few of your posts. Didn't know who you were. I didn't agree with much but you were respectful and sincere. You're welcome here. The more the merrier.
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#71. To: Vicomte13 TooConservative (#70)
Lol, I cant believe either of you got banned from FR.... Did you both mello, or was it just that bad there? My banning was my own doing, I peed all over a daily dose thread, oops!
Amateurs. ‹/sniff›
Did you both mello, or was it just that bad there? I have been pretty constant over the years. I was banned because I was severely critical of H.W. Bush. Specifically, I wrote something like "Was putting up with 8 years of Clinton to get rid of (H.W.) Bush? Yes. Yes it was." Some moderator wrote "Banned for that and the rest of it", something like that. And that was it. Of course, within a year the whole site was aflame with Bush hatred. When the dullards caught up to where the smart people were a year before them, they had banned us, and refused to reconsider their stupid decisions. So now FR is only a shell of what it was.
But they were mad over the Shamnesty attempts, the Harriet Miers debacle, etc. Not exactly the same stuff you weren't happy about a year earlier.
Well, now hold on. I was mad at W. Bush for those very things, and not surprised when he did them. But what got me banned was my criticism of H.W. Bush, 41. He only had two problems: Foreign policy and Domestic policy. Other than that, he was a peach.
He attempted them. In both, he was frustrated by the Right blogosphere and FR mounting a major effort against him. Shamnesty and Miers were the last hurrah for TOS having any actual influence in national politics.
...This place will be excellent. The conversations we will have here will make it so... NOT quite. LF is already now one absurdly infested infested canary/rat cage. This situation is reminiscent of Castro's flotilla of criminals and people with mental illness pawned off on the US from Cuba during the Mariel boatlift. NO THANKS.
Canary refugees from eLPee
Still hilarious. Slapping that together in minutes was quite a feat. BobJ is immortalized forever. (btw, I had NO idea you were so reviled at FR) There's a temptation to create another Hitler spoof starring Gilligan and his ill-fated attempt to pirate LP: Hitler: "I'm not worried about TPaine or anyone else taking over LP. After stroking the sysadmin and jingling my pocket I've got this in the bag." Canary 1: "But Mein Gilligan... Canary 2: "Mein Gilligan, LP is shuttering forever. Your fantasy of owning and running a canary-run regime on LP is KAPUT!"
HA!! And that water is already brown with human-waste. Great metaphor.
...I do write with more than a little garlic. I don't think your penchant for garlicky detail was the issue. Or was it? Yes, there may have been some batshit-crazy posters at FR who were also mods. Refresh my memory. What exactly was your "offending" post at FR?
I'm debating whether LF (Google's and Facebook's unwitting bitch) is actually better than putting up with a handful of antisemites and Truthers over at 4um which is at least a dark-web site. Nazi Truthers or Canaries, which is worse? This influx of Canaries has taken the sheen off any hopes some of us had for LF. Then there's the contents of the Headlines page and many of the articles in various categories.
If you do, let me know. I love those Hitler spoof's.
Yup. ...handful of antisemites and Truthers over at 4um... I'm conflicted. I'm a Truther. But I can't stomach the "Joos-did-it" posting there that seems to be the signature obligatory post of the place. FOR ANY EVENT. Joos take far more of a hit over there than Muzzies. *eyeball roll* (kvetching over a hangnail: "DAMN JOOS!!")
Overall the moderators seem more mellow at 4um. Stone tends to get wild with changing titles and weird stuff on occasion. He's trying to chill, it seems.
Thanks, Stoner...I always thought that had TC keyworded "FREE REPUBLIC" the vid would have received more...ahem...attention. TC is the director and producer and brains behind the operation. I'm just a mere concept guy. Between FR and LP, I've had quite a few lampooning concepts that'd have been pretty funny, but it's hard work. Lord know there have been enough characters, foils and events to create a few others.
Yes. Because nothing much is too outrageous. Except supporting Jewish/Israeli positions or being overly critical of Muzzies. Then the place becomes a self-moderating hive of African bees.
I do too. Ever see the interview with the actor who played Hitler? (Bruno Ganz, who refuses to shave his Hitler) He was pressed for his reaction to his performance being an internet phenomena. Even his own family would bust his chops and laugh when they'd see him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YLqC3DIgjY
And the conspiracy-within-a-conspiracy-within-a-conspiracy mindset. Look at their sidebar. OTOH, look at LF's sidebar or what LP had (on some days after the Canaries and the Canary-brawlers got done with it). Which was why I hung out at LP so long, warts and all.
Don't let him fool you. I mentioned the bunker mindset of TOS, Liberator mentioned the various Hitler spoofs, I located and torrented the movie, 90% of the script came from a single post by liberator, I figured out the subtitle format and used Quicktime 7 to hardcode the subtitles onto the video and put it on YouBoob. This happened over the course of a day and a half.
I'm impressed. I thought it was hilarious and still think so to this day.
It was actually easy other than figuring out how to pin the hardcode subtitles onto the video. Could have done it in a few hours otherwise.
Yes, a few posters over there might be a bit over the top on the "conspiracy-within-a-conspiracy mindset." But to be honest, I'm of that mind as well. Maybe not to their degree. To them The Joos are the string-pullers from Islam's terrorism to poisoning our food. THAT said... ...I believe an Elite World Puppet-Meister Government (aka PTB) has been engaging in misdirection and scripting narratives and determining the "news." Owning the media and message makes this simple. Not that Islam didn't pull off the Hedbo caper; They did. However, the PTB routinely enable chaos and anarchy while refusing to douse and call out the actual perps: Islam. Hate-Whitey Plantation Blacks. Commie-White Leftists. OR their own puppets within the US goobermint. As well as various foreign/UN/NWO proxies of these Elites/PTB who do their bidding (howz zat for a "conspiracy-within-a-conspiracy-within-a-conspiracy?") :-) OTOH, look at LF's sidebar or what LP had (on some days after the Canaries and the Canary-brawlers got done with it). Which was why I hung out at LP so long, warts and all. Sure. The news sidebar is more about domestic issues and events, less dwelling in the realm of ethereal world conspiracies. Or less about obvious "conspiracies" like a subversive President and his fellow subversive allowed to ransack, plunder and incinerate America with impunity. Where we differ is obviously in defining our respective political "reality." I may be wrong, but...you generally appear to believe that this national/world system or "order" is an un-rigged game; That it's a mess that is redeemable if only the "right" pols were in charge again; That most of our politicians have our best interests at heart, and THE narrative advanced by the media and goob is more or less as it seems. To me, everyday since @ 2004 has reinforced the notion of one giant charade and version of the "Matrix." Since 0buma has been elect THEN re-elected, that notion has been reinforced every hour on the hour. No sane, benevolent, constitutional US government would have allowed the second term to happen without rigging, greasing, and fixing the works. An Impeachment would/should have launcheded long ago. A strong case could be made for Treason. Sorry for the long-winded response.
Thank TC DeMille, you're being modest. You created some of the best lines, right from the outset ("Out of the way, Harpies!....Mittbot!") The "$350,000 per year" crack about a chat board for cat-ladies was deliciously spot on. Day and a half to compete? It just seemed like...minutes :-)
Thanks Fred. Glad you got a kick out of it. Back then we had waaaay to time on our hands. ALTHOUGH a Gatlin/Gilligan/Canary script has potential.
You might want to brush up on your Chomsky a bit, especially his classic Manufacturing Consent. As he says, it is not a conspiracy per se. But it functions as one due to the class solidarity and political interests of the elites. They don't actually need to hold any meetings or to explicitly plan most of their agenda. Damn, you guys all swoon over those Matrix movies. I never met a Truther who didn't mention them before too long. I think that Truthers don't really grasp how that plays out with the non-believers. Hint: they don't like the implication that they're unconscious boobs, given no more hard evidence than the Truthers can muster for their case.
I had to fill dialogs for those chicks. So who else was I going to pick? I got those out of the various Biker Bar threads, just searched around for about 10 minutes. Maybe f_christain? Can't recall.
Never read Chomsky; Don't have to since my eyes and ears and math have dictated the obvious: "IF it looks like a Duck..." OR even to that which "Occam's Razor" applies. I can concur with a solidarity of these elites as the world's undeclared self-anointed Royalty, as well as what they perceive as their "right" and entitlement to advance their subversive agenda of World Conquest and kingdoms. Islam immigration/Terrorism is merely a tool for them. "By any means necessary" is their motto. As to the necessity of meetings, of course they meet and discuss their Game Plans. Most are unannounced. Few are overt. What do you think the Bilderergers, CFR, Skull & Bones, etal are about? Cigars and cognac? Even the Journ-O-Listers devised and organized a Game Plan and executed an agenda. But of course they were/are doing so at the behest of their superiors within this hierarcy of World Subversion. Damn, you guys all swoon over those Matrix movies. I never met a Truther who didn't mention them before too long. Naah. Only watched it a couple of times. The reason it's invoked so often is simply for the "Red Pill/Blue Pill" scene, which is the definitive metaphor for discerning whether our current World Order has been controlled and scripted by subversive elites in stages, OR whether one believes in an alternative reality in which our politics, bogeymen, and events are natural, spontaneous "living, breathing" organisms. I think that Truthers don't really grasp how that plays out with the non-believers. Hint: they don't like the implication that they're unconscious boobs, given no more hard evidence than the Truthers can muster for their case. I thoroughly understand the revulsion and rejection of "Trutherism." It's hard for folks to believe nearly everything they've been told about our system and order is a lie. Being bamboozled our entire lives is an immense blow to our intellect... But how it plays out with unbelievers isn't part of the equation for those who do the math. Connecting those dots in lieu of "hard evidence" has never been easier. That "evidence" is shone like a laser in everyone's face on a daily basis. Lies of ommision and "official" reports that are worse than fairy tales make it just as frustrating and incredulous for those of us who hear the perjorative, "Truther!" despite what we see is one charade after another.
Don't recall the source of the $350,000 chatboard line, but the Freepathons spoke for themselves, didn't they? It was...excellent chick filler. "Proud and loyal Harpy." HA! The KleinBot = MittBot was clever. Well, however, whatever you did to create the rest of the storyboard and jokes ("Do they think Margueritas and breadsticks grow on trees...tittering over Fred Thompson...great grifter hero Keyes....") was killer.
Here's my all-time favorite "conspiracy" photo. A Menage a Puppet. I'd like to think of this as Poppy and Slick's "Secret NWO handshake," but that would be presumptuous of me. Because ALL ex-Prezes of opposing parties I've ever seen photographed do this all the time. *cough, Mena*
Okay, that one was all me. We had had a recent story about how Keyes was still in debt over $500K from his failed campaigns (slipping money to relatives to pilfer donations) and was running a scheme like Sharpton's to keep his income off the books entirely. He was (and is) expected to die a half-million in campaign debt. So grifter was pretty accurate and contemporary. And Robinson just loved him some Alan Keyes. Couldn't get enough. And Thompson was irresistible. Recall how they waited so long for him, their savior, to quit his L&O job and go campaign. When he finally did, he rolled around the Ames state fair on a golf cart, fizzled and quit. And after Robinson acquired the rights to...wait for it...www.fredrepublic.com! LOL. And it pointed to FR too. Damn, what a letdown.
It was a long time ago now, years and years. Still, it was something along the lines of: "Was putting up with 8 years of Clinton worth it to get rid of Bush? Yes, yes it was." And with that, I was gone for good, without appeal.
THAT was a bit to radical for the Cult of Bush to wrap their fawning heads around, wasn't it? LOL These days, Freepers are in open revolt against ALL things Bush. TEN YEARS TOO LATE. Thus, you were waaay ahead of the curve, as were most excommunicated Freepers here or at LP.
Yup, the Keyes line all you, and quite apropos considering the circumstances. The "great grifter hero" description was actually perfect. The tittering Fred Thompson line was also well played; Your account of Freepers awaiting with baited breath for their savior to charge into the campaign arena to the sound of triumphant trumpets immediately dashed hopes. The somatic Thompson was a prop, a corpse, calculated to siphon votes. NOT there as a serious candiate, and it showed. Burst bubble were rife in Freeperland. That JR actually acquired the rights to....www.fredrepublic.com (HA!) was delicious irony. 2 for 2 on both Keyes and Thompson. And nicely fit into your storyboard. People really had to be there at the time to fully appreciate your spot on impressions.
I often wondered just how many angry freepmails circulated over that little vid. More than a few, I think.
Well, W Bush was better than his daddy. I didn't hate W. Still don't. He made mistakes. So have I. His worst mistake from a national security perspective was not treating 9/11 like Pearl Harbor and going to Congress next day to ask for a Declaration of War. It could not have been resisted, and with full war powers we would have been able to lick the whole Muslim world in 5 years, control the world's oil supply (at a time when Russia was too weak to do anything, and China was not prepared to take up the leadership, and Europe was willing) AND bring the national finances well in hand with war taxes. AND keep the public together and eager to finish the fight against the evildoers. By using war fever, Bush could have overwhelmed the lobbyists and the monied interests, and by using war powers, he could have so swiftly, forcibly and irresistibly redistributed their money through war taxes that the deficit would have been a permanent surplus, the national debt would have plunged, AND the power of the oligarchy would have been seriously clipped (by taxes removing their money and unified public war fever and anti-sedition laws and taxes and regulations forcing them to march in step). That would have given America a win on all levels. But Bush is a man of the oligarchy. Not a brilliant one, not a mover and shaker, but one easily swayed by them. So instead we played at war, have lost it, and our financial stability, and everything. He failed because he did not do the right thing at the critical moment. And then there was the Miers/Schiavo fiasco which betrayed the pro-life base. The first thing set Bush's presidency and America up for disaster. The second turned me against him personally. The Terri Schiavo affair showed both Bush boys as cowards, at best, or actually aligned with the bad guys. In any case, my criticism back THEN on FR was aimed at H.W. Bush. I read his lips: he lied to me and hiked taxes. And when we had Saddam Hussein's evil regime in the palm of our hand, we let him go. I have no patience for Poppy Bush, and no patience for his supporters either. FR is the face of the GOP. That is the Republican Party. That's who makes it up. That's how they think (or rather, don't). Thank God they banned me.
No, he wasn't. Both were bad, Dumbya was far worse. He should be tried for war crimes, along with Obama. Oh, dear, I just had a flashback of those awful Daily Dose Busholatry threads at TOS. That was a close call but don't put me on the prayer list just yet. : )
Other than reading and posting on the RF, I don't read or participate in the FR political threads. I may have posted on those threads about 7-10 times total. Sometimes it's just too inviting to avoid a thread as this one: www.freerepublic .com/focus/religion/3246981/posts It seems both ghettos towed out their big guns for the above thread.
The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”(Isaiah 40:8)
You weren't there for the old days, Calvinists Against The World. LOL. Quite a crew. I recall we used to stop one thread and continue the topic on a new one when we hit 500 posts. So you would have Predestination XXIII or Irresistible Grace XXXII. Those weren't one-liner posts either. Lots of really long quotes and extensive essays and debates. Here's one by xzins with jokes from 2005:
Q. "How many charismatics does it take to change a light bulb?"
A. "Only one. His hands are in the air anyway."
Q. "How many Calvinists does it take to change a light bulb?"
A. "None. God has predestined when it will be light and dark.
Q. "How many psychiatrists does it take to change a light bulb?"
A. "Only one. But the light bulb has to WANT to change."
A very early one from 2002, a mere 1800 posts, Predestination. If you don't need glasses yet, you will! : )
LOL xins still posting there. Think he is a retired Army chaplain (Lutheran) I will look at the link in a bit. There is a poster over there that gives Vic a run for his money with regards to post length:)
The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”(Isaiah 40:8)
#72. To: Dead Culture Watch (#71)
My banning was my own doing, I peed all over a daily dose thread, oops!
#73. To: Dead Culture Watch (#71)
Lol, I cant believe either of you got banned from FR....
#74. To: Vicomte13 (#73)
Of course, within a year the whole site was aflame with Bush hatred. When the dullards caught up to where the smart people were a year before them, they had banned us, and refused to reconsider their stupid decisions.
#75. To: TooConservative (#74)
(Edited)
But they were mad over the Shamnesty attempts, the Harriet Miers debacle, etc. Not exactly the same stuff you weren't happy about a year earlier.
#76. To: Vicomte13 (#75)
Well, now hold on. I was mad at W. Bush for those very things, and not surprised when he did them.
#77. To: Vicomte13, TooConservative, CZ82, Redleghunter, hondo68, Deckard, A K A Stone (#58)
LibertysFlame looks to be like a bigger and less cranky expression of LibertyPost...
#78. To: Liberator, eLPee boatlift (#77)
the Mariel boatlift.
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#79. To: TooConservative, Vicomte13 (#62)
Liberator and I would have a better chance of retreading there despite our poignant and gripping tribute video to TOS and the heroic BobJ.
#80. To: hondo68 (#78)
(Edited)
#81. To: Vicomte13 (#59)
Given some of the outrage that folks have expressed at me, the heat of the invective, just for stating my simple (if at times detailed) opinions, I suppose that there are some people whom I make batshit crazy just by opening my mouth...
#82. To: hondo68 (#78)
Canary refugees from eLPee
#83. To: Liberator (#79)
" There's a temptation to create another Hitler spoof starring Gilligan and his ill-fated attempt to pirate LP: "
#84. To: TooConservative, hondo68 (#82)
This influx of Canaries has taken the sheen off any hopes some of us had for LF.
#85. To: Liberator, A K A Stone (#84)
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#86. To: Stoner, TooConservative (#83)
#87. To: hondo68 (#85)
(Edited)
Overall the moderators seem more mellow at 4um.
#88. To: Stoner (#83)
I love those Hitler spoof's.
#89. To: Liberator (#84)
But I can't stomach the "Joos-did-it" posting there that seems to be the signature obligatory post of the place.
#90. To: Stoner, Liberator (#86)
#91. To: TooConservative, liberator (#90)
This happened over the course of a day and a half.
#92. To: Fred Mertz, liberator (#91)
#93. To: TooConservative (#89)
And the conspiracy-within-a-conspiracy-within-a-conspiracy mindset. Look at their sidebar.
#94. To: TooConservative, Stoner (#90)
(Edited)
#95. To: Fred Mertz, TooConservative, Stoner (#91)
#96. To: Liberator (#93)
...I believe an Elite World Puppet-Meister Government (aka PTB) has been engaging in misdirection and scripting narratives and determining the "news." Owning the media and message makes this simple. Not that Islam didn't pull off the Hedbo caper; They did. However, the PTB routinely enable chaos and anarchy while refusing to douse and call out the actual perps: Islam.
To me, everyday since @ 2004 has reinforced the notion of one giant charade and version of the "Matrix."
#97. To: Liberator (#94)
You created some of the best lines, right from the outset ("Out of the way, Harpies!....Mittbot!")
The "$350,000 per year" crack about a chat board for cat-ladies was deliciously spot on.
#98. To: TooConservative (#96)
(Edited)
You might want to brush up on your Chomsky a bit, especially his classic Manufacturing Consent. As he says, it is not a conspiracy per se. But it functions as one due to the class solidarity and political interests of the elites. They don't actually need to hold any meetings or to explicitly plan most of their agenda.
#99. To: TooConservative (#97)
I had to fill dialogs for those chicks. So who else was I going to pick?
#100. To: TooConservative, Deckard (#96)
#101. To: Liberator (#99)
(Edited)
...great grifter hero Keyes...
#102. To: Liberator (#81)
Refresh my memory. What exactly was your "offending" post at FR?
#103. To: Vicomte13 (#102)
Was putting up with 8 years of Clinton worth it to get rid of Bush? Yes, yes it was."
#104. To: TooConservative (#101)
#105. To: Liberator (#104)
People really had to be there at the time to fully appreciate your spot on impressions.
#106. To: Liberator (#103)
These days, Freepers are in open revolt against ALL things Bush.
#107. To: Vicomte13, redleghunter (#106)
Well, W Bush was better than his daddy. I didn't hate W. Still don't. He made mistakes. So have I.
#108. To: TooConservative, Vicomte13 (#107)
#109. To: redleghunter (#108)
It seems both ghettos towed out their big guns for the above thread.
Q. "How many Catholics does it take to change a light bulb?"
A. "None. We use candles."
#110. To: TooConservative, Vicomte13 (#109)
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