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Title: What would it take to get Pericles to come here and post.
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Published: Jan 12, 2015
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2015-01-12 20:37:53 by A K A Stone
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Comments: 110

I read a few of your posts. Didn't know who you were. I didn't agree with much but you were respectful and sincere.

You're welcome here.

The more the merrier.

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#31. To: A K A Stone, TooConservative (#0)

Thank you for the invite. Because I used AOL for email it seems I am on an introductory member basis - I assume that limited my postings?

Pericles  posted on  2015-01-13   15:59:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Pericles (#31)

I am on an introductory member basis - I assume that limited my postings?

Use your sock puppet account, Godwinson.

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-13   16:10:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: hondo68 (#32)

I am on an introductory member basis - I assume that limited my postings? Use your sock puppet account, Godwinson.

Actually, Godwinson is the name I used on Freerepublic when Pericles and then Destro were banned.

Pericles  posted on  2015-01-13   16:21:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Pericles, Godwinson, etc. (#35)

libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...on&To=&SNSearch=+Go+&PNU=

Godwinson is the name I used on Freerepublic when Pericles and then Destro were banned.

You used it here too.

I might start a sock puppet decoder ring thread, for all of the aliases used by different people on these forums.

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-13   17:04:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: hondo68 (#41)

I might start a sock puppet decoder ring thread, for all of the aliases used by different people on these forums.

It's the two new unknown sock puppets that you need the ring for.

I don't care if people have had multiple IDs as long as they're honest about it. If they're playing games and hiding who they are, you know they're up to no good.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-13   17:15:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: TooConservative, hondo68 (#42) (Edited)

I might start a sock puppet decoder ring thread, for all of the aliases used by different people on these forums. It's the two new unknown sock puppets that you need the ring for.

Calling the different names I used a sockpuppet is a stretch. I never posted simultaneously with two different account names. It is not like the name I pick for an online forum can not change like a SS card or my driver's ID.

It is not like these names I use for forums are copyrighted or in any way my real names.

I may change my name on forums. But I don't have multiple accounts on each forum playing games or pretending I am a group ganging up on someone or on a topic.

Pericles  posted on  2015-01-13   18:59:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Pericles, hondo68 (#44)

Calling the different names I used a sockpuppet is a stretch.

Only a little. I would call them retread accounts if you got banned, like at TOS, and came back under a new handle. Then there are sleepers or zombie accounts, extra IDs for making mischief. I see your point that you were actively posting (and not to disrupt) under each handle in succession. So retread is probably more accurate.

I'm not sure that being a retread is that much more dignified than a sockpuppet. These terms get used loosely.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-13   19:14:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: TooConservative (#45)

I actually tried to be a retread at TOS. Tried to come back as "Sherriff13". But their system said "NOPE", and that was that. Never tried again.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-13   21:55:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Vicomte13 (#51)

Wait...are you asking for help in going back to TOS? Or just conversing?

To go back, just click the heels of those ruby slippers 3 times and recite, "There's no place like Rome, there's no place...".     : )

If you want to go back, I can tell you how. So could any number of people here, in private forum mail if you like.

Your problem is that your professional prose style would give you away. You write too well; it's pretty unmistakable. So you might get back there for a while but you'd be found out. And, unlike Goldi, Robinson tolerates no retreads.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-13   22:39:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: TooConservative (#54) (Edited)

When FreeRepublic cut me off originally, I thought that it was ridiculous and unfair. I'd been posting there for years, and was a conservative Republican. The things I was angry about in H.W. Bush were legitimate. I was stunned when they did it, and found myself with nowhere to communicate in the way that I'd become accustomed. So I tried to get back aboard, including by trying a pseudonym, once. That was in 2005 or so.

Once I found LibertyPost, I started posting there. I missed the "wider audience" of FR for a bit, and I still thought they should lift the ban, as it was ridiculous.

So I knocked at the front door a few times, in my own name (Vicomte13). They never deigned to respond to anything.

With a little more time, I began to perceive that the thing that makes any chat site good is the quality of the posters. I have heard since I was about 8 years old how well I write, and while I never paid any attention to it when I was younger, as I've gotten older I realize that it is true: I write well, and I do so on a wide variety of topics because of the extremely broad education I have had, and the unique set of experiences. Having a strong memory helps also.

And so with further reflection I decided that it is people like me, our willingness to spend time posting our well-written and provactive thoughts for free in a wide chat room, that make a site good, and the absence of us that breaks a site.

There are a few news wires that print articles every day. It's easy to find the news. It's easy to find people commenting, one way, about the news. It's difficult to find people with whom to actually ENGAGE about the news, and to find those with whom one can engage INTELLIGENTLY, and at length, well, they're as rare as hen's teeth.

Bref: FR's banning of me and people like me was FR's loss. Now I have no interest whatever in going back, other than on my own terms, which are simple: open the door back up, unban me, and don't presume to give me any "warning" whatsoever. I was dead right about H.W. Bush. I was just smarter than the moderators and saw it two years before they did. Unban me and do not presume to give me any "warning" at all, consider yourselves lucky that I should deign to return and give my time and talent to a site that has fallen far from its former glory (BECAUSE it banned people like me), and let it go from there.

Those are the terms on which I would do FR the favor of returning, under my own name. Otherwise, that game's not worth the candle. LibertysFlame looks to be like a bigger and less cranky expression of LibertyPost, and with Private Mail too. So I think this place will be excellent. The conversations we will have here will make it so, and my excellent (if lengthy) writing will be a material part of that. This is not arrogance, it is realism.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-14   5:52:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Vicomte13, TooConservative, CZ82, Redleghunter, hondo68, Deckard, A K A Stone (#58)

LibertysFlame looks to be like a bigger and less cranky expression of LibertyPost...

...This place will be excellent. The conversations we will have here will make it so...

NOT quite.

LF is already now one absurdly infested infested canary/rat cage. This situation is reminiscent of Castro's flotilla of criminals and people with mental illness pawned off on the US from Cuba during the Mariel boatlift.

NO THANKS.

Liberator  posted on  2015-01-15   11:49:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Liberator, eLPee boatlift (#77)

the Mariel boatlift.

Canary refugees from eLPee

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-15   12:16:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: hondo68 (#78)

Canary refugees from eLPee

I'm debating whether LF (Google's and Facebook's unwitting bitch) is actually better than putting up with a handful of antisemites and Truthers over at 4um which is at least a dark-web site. Nazi Truthers or Canaries, which is worse?

This influx of Canaries has taken the sheen off any hopes some of us had for LF.

Then there's the contents of the Headlines page and many of the articles in various categories.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-15   12:42:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: TooConservative, hondo68 (#82)

This influx of Canaries has taken the sheen off any hopes some of us had for LF.

Yup.

...handful of antisemites and Truthers over at 4um...

I'm conflicted. I'm a Truther. But I can't stomach the "Joos-did-it" posting there that seems to be the signature obligatory post of the place. FOR ANY EVENT. Joos take far more of a hit over there than Muzzies. *eyeball roll*

(kvetching over a hangnail: "DAMN JOOS!!")

Liberator  posted on  2015-01-15   13:20:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#85. To: Liberator, A K A Stone (#84)

Overall the moderators seem more mellow at 4um. Stone tends to get wild with changing titles and weird stuff on occasion.

He's trying to chill, it seems.

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-15 13:26:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Liberator (#84)

But I can't stomach the "Joos-did-it" posting there that seems to be the signature obligatory post of the place.

And the conspiracy-within-a-conspiracy-within-a-conspiracy mindset. Look at their sidebar.

OTOH, look at LF's sidebar or what LP had (on some days after the Canaries and the Canary-brawlers got done with it). Which was why I hung out at LP so long, warts and all.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-15 14:36:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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