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Title: What would it take to get Pericles to come here and post.
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Published: Jan 12, 2015
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2015-01-12 20:37:53 by A K A Stone
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I read a few of your posts. Didn't know who you were. I didn't agree with much but you were respectful and sincere.

You're welcome here.

The more the merrier.

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#26. To: SOSO (#23)

In english please if you want to dance with me.

I see your warning of jackbooted Nazis (symbolized by a German patriotic song of the World Wars era), and raise it a French rebellion (symbolized by the first couple of lines of the Marseillaise).

To be literal: The jackboots: "Dear Fatherland, remain calm, dear Fatherland, remain calm, the Watch stands tall and true: the Watch on the Rhine, Stands stall and true the Watch, the Watch on the Rhine!"

The rebellious response: "Arise, you children of the Fatherland, the day of glory has arisen! Against us tyranny has raised its bloody flag!"

In other words, Nazis schmazis - more wine!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-pgRLfAk5Y

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-13   13:31:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Vicomte13 (#26)

In other words, Nazis schmazis - more wine!

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-13   13:44:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: SOSO (#25)

BTW, are really Vicomte13? Are you sure that you are not SOD or yukon or any of the other posters over which he is obessed? Come, fess up. But just don't claim that you are Spartacus because I AM SPARTACUS:)

I am absolutely Vicomte13, the one and only XIIIeme Vicomte of an obscure place in Normandy, who was banned from FreeRepublic circa 2005 (?) for criticizing George H.W. Bush, who posted at LibertyPost until yesterday, when I gave my adieu, and who has posted here for some time also.

I am in a good mood today and having fun here.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-13   14:16:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: SOSO, TooConservative (#24) (Edited)

TooConservative: "Trying to spread hatred and discontent as you stalk the threads"?

SOSO: "Seems that you have already cornered the market on that activity? What is you obession? What are you afraid of"?

We could ask you the same question, SOSO. What are you afraid of? You've asked for your own ping list using Goldi's name so you can trash and slander the members here you hate, and in the same breath, you've accused long standing members here, and those who might come here from LP, of spewing "vitroil and gloating over the passing of LP with Goldi". jmho!

What is your obession? What are you afraid of?

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SOSO: Rest In Peace Goldi ping list ..."safe harbor to let the newcommers here, like myself, ... before the exs spew their vitroil and gloating over the passing of LP with Goldi".

Murron  posted on  2015-01-13   14:59:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Murron, TooConservative (#29)

We could ask you the same question, SOSO. What are you afraid of?

I answered that question right from the beginning and you immediately proved my fears to be extremely well founded. You were hostile to me from you fisrt post. Best do a reality check, Bro, your pants are on fire.

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-13   15:05:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone, TooConservative (#0)

Thank you for the invite. Because I used AOL for email it seems I am on an introductory member basis - I assume that limited my postings?

Pericles  posted on  2015-01-13   15:59:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Pericles (#31)

I am on an introductory member basis - I assume that limited my postings?

Use your sock puppet account, Godwinson.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-13   16:10:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Pericles (#31)

I'm setting you to full.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-13   16:11:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Pericles (#31)

Hey Dude!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-13   16:12:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: hondo68 (#32)

I am on an introductory member basis - I assume that limited my postings? Use your sock puppet account, Godwinson.

Actually, Godwinson is the name I used on Freerepublic when Pericles and then Destro were banned.

Pericles  posted on  2015-01-13   16:21:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Fred Mertz (#34)

What up, Fred!

Pericles  posted on  2015-01-13   16:22:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: A K A Stone (#33)

Much obliged and HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Pericles  posted on  2015-01-13   16:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Pericles (#37)

Happy new year to you too.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-13   16:24:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Pericles (#31)

Thank you for the invite. Because I used AOL for email it seems I am on an introductory member basis - I assume that limited my postings?

Just don't get too smug reading that sweet invite thread.     : )

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-13   16:26:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: TooConservative (#39)

I was going to delay coming here based on just work I am doing and finding time but I am hearing reports of new fighting in Ukraine over that disputed airport.

Pericles  posted on  2015-01-13   16:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Pericles, Godwinson, etc. (#35)

libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...on&To=&SNSearch=+Go+&PNU=

Godwinson is the name I used on Freerepublic when Pericles and then Destro were banned.

You used it here too.

I might start a sock puppet decoder ring thread, for all of the aliases used by different people on these forums.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-13   17:04:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: hondo68 (#41)

I might start a sock puppet decoder ring thread, for all of the aliases used by different people on these forums.

It's the two new unknown sock puppets that you need the ring for.

I don't care if people have had multiple IDs as long as they're honest about it. If they're playing games and hiding who they are, you know they're up to no good.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-13   17:15:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Vicomte13 (#21)

Why would that get me banned?

Don't make me play that song to punish your cheeky insouciance.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-13   17:45:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: TooConservative, hondo68 (#42) (Edited)

I might start a sock puppet decoder ring thread, for all of the aliases used by different people on these forums. It's the two new unknown sock puppets that you need the ring for.

Calling the different names I used a sockpuppet is a stretch. I never posted simultaneously with two different account names. It is not like the name I pick for an online forum can not change like a SS card or my driver's ID.

It is not like these names I use for forums are copyrighted or in any way my real names.

I may change my name on forums. But I don't have multiple accounts on each forum playing games or pretending I am a group ganging up on someone or on a topic.

Pericles  posted on  2015-01-13   18:59:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Pericles, hondo68 (#44)

Calling the different names I used a sockpuppet is a stretch.

Only a little. I would call them retread accounts if you got banned, like at TOS, and came back under a new handle. Then there are sleepers or zombie accounts, extra IDs for making mischief. I see your point that you were actively posting (and not to disrupt) under each handle in succession. So retread is probably more accurate.

I'm not sure that being a retread is that much more dignified than a sockpuppet. These terms get used loosely.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-13   19:14:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: TooConservative, hondo68 (#45) (Edited)

So retread is probably more accurate.

Yes, retread is accurate - same person returning as a different account name and I really never tried to hide it.

Sockpuppet is like having a gaggle of fake names who you pretend are different people agreeing with your main current account --- which I have never done.

Pericles  posted on  2015-01-13   19:48:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Pericles (#46)

OK, we're not sock puppets, just retreads. I was Booshbot666 at LP after getting banned as hondo68TTOR. Peace bro.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-13   20:27:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Pericles (#46)

Yes, retread is accurate - same person returning as a different account name and I really never tried to hide it.

You mean, other than carefully not telling anyone and pretending you had met everyone for the first time as a new poster.

Sockpuppet is like having a gaggle of fake names

Also, having a bunch of handles at TOS just to go over and harass people like Howlin and OhioWFan so one could get banned over and over for laughs.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-13   21:52:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: hondo68 (#47)

OK, we're not sock puppets, just retreads. I was Booshbot666 at LP after getting banned as hondo68TTOR.

Is this the part where the rest of us act surprised? LOL.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-13   21:53:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: TooConservative (#43)

Don't make me play that song to punish your cheeky insouciance.

Aux armes, citoyens! Formez vos battalions! Marchons! Marchons! Qu'un sang impur abreuve nos sillons!

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-13   21:53:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: TooConservative (#45)

I actually tried to be a retread at TOS. Tried to come back as "Sherriff13". But their system said "NOPE", and that was that. Never tried again.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-13   21:55:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: TooConservative (#49)

Is this the part where the rest of us act surprised?

Just clearing things up, prior to seeking $200M to scare Jeb into quitting.

Electability, you betcha!


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-13   21:58:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Vicomte13 (#51)

I actually tried to be a retread at TOS. Tried to come back as "Sherriff13". But their system said "NOPE", and that was that. Never tried again.

You didn't clear your cookies or you didn't change your IP address. Obviously, it can be done but you have to follow certain rules.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-13   22:21:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Vicomte13 (#51)

Wait...are you asking for help in going back to TOS? Or just conversing?

To go back, just click the heels of those ruby slippers 3 times and recite, "There's no place like Rome, there's no place...".     : )

If you want to go back, I can tell you how. So could any number of people here, in private forum mail if you like.

Your problem is that your professional prose style would give you away. You write too well; it's pretty unmistakable. So you might get back there for a while but you'd be found out. And, unlike Goldi, Robinson tolerates no retreads.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-13   22:39:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: TooConservative, Vicomte13 (#54) (Edited)

Wait...are you asking for help in going back to TOS? Or just conversing?

To go back, just click the heels of those ruby slippers 3 times and recite, "There's no place like Rome, there's no place...". : )

LOL

Your problem is that your professional prose style would give you away. You write too well; it's pretty unmistakable. So you might get back there for a while but you'd be found out. And, unlike Goldi, Robinson tolerates no retreads.

This is true. Vic's style is pretty unique. And he's too cerebral for most of TOS. However for a poster to be hit with the charge of "RETREAD!!" (or troll) it would have to be assumed that Vic has made enemies of petty mitpickers there. Have you, Vic? If not, TC has his balloon tethered to Oz on standby to Kansas.

Liberator  posted on  2015-01-13   22:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Vicomte13 (#51)

I actually tried to be a retread at TOS. Tried to come back as "Sherriff13". But their system said "NOPE", and that was that. Never tried again.

Their loss.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-13   22:54:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: TooConservative (#48) (Edited)

You mean, other than carefully not telling anyone and pretending you had met everyone for the first time as a new poster.

Not true - I stated I remembered A Pole from Freerepublic several times who (I assumed) also knew me as Pericles on there - old hands at the Milosevic posts. I honestly did not really remember your name that well. And I did not know my ID was in contention.

Pericles  posted on  2015-01-13   23:44:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: TooConservative (#54) (Edited)

When FreeRepublic cut me off originally, I thought that it was ridiculous and unfair. I'd been posting there for years, and was a conservative Republican. The things I was angry about in H.W. Bush were legitimate. I was stunned when they did it, and found myself with nowhere to communicate in the way that I'd become accustomed. So I tried to get back aboard, including by trying a pseudonym, once. That was in 2005 or so.

Once I found LibertyPost, I started posting there. I missed the "wider audience" of FR for a bit, and I still thought they should lift the ban, as it was ridiculous.

So I knocked at the front door a few times, in my own name (Vicomte13). They never deigned to respond to anything.

With a little more time, I began to perceive that the thing that makes any chat site good is the quality of the posters. I have heard since I was about 8 years old how well I write, and while I never paid any attention to it when I was younger, as I've gotten older I realize that it is true: I write well, and I do so on a wide variety of topics because of the extremely broad education I have had, and the unique set of experiences. Having a strong memory helps also.

And so with further reflection I decided that it is people like me, our willingness to spend time posting our well-written and provactive thoughts for free in a wide chat room, that make a site good, and the absence of us that breaks a site.

There are a few news wires that print articles every day. It's easy to find the news. It's easy to find people commenting, one way, about the news. It's difficult to find people with whom to actually ENGAGE about the news, and to find those with whom one can engage INTELLIGENTLY, and at length, well, they're as rare as hen's teeth.

Bref: FR's banning of me and people like me was FR's loss. Now I have no interest whatever in going back, other than on my own terms, which are simple: open the door back up, unban me, and don't presume to give me any "warning" whatsoever. I was dead right about H.W. Bush. I was just smarter than the moderators and saw it two years before they did. Unban me and do not presume to give me any "warning" at all, consider yourselves lucky that I should deign to return and give my time and talent to a site that has fallen far from its former glory (BECAUSE it banned people like me), and let it go from there.

Those are the terms on which I would do FR the favor of returning, under my own name. Otherwise, that game's not worth the candle. LibertysFlame looks to be like a bigger and less cranky expression of LibertyPost, and with Private Mail too. So I think this place will be excellent. The conversations we will have here will make it so, and my excellent (if lengthy) writing will be a material part of that. This is not arrogance, it is realism.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-14   5:52:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Liberator (#55)

However for a poster to be hit with the charge of "RETREAD!!" (or troll) it would have to be assumed that Vic has made enemies of petty mitpickers there. Have you, Vic? If not, TC has his balloon tethered to Oz on standby to Kansas.

I never really thought about that. Given some of the outrage that folks have expressed at me, the heat of the invective, just for stating my simple (if at times detailed) opinions, I suppose that there are some people whom I make batshit crazy just by opening my mouth.

I think these are mostly matters of style. France is America's oldest ally, but a lot of Americans are allergic to things French, and I do write with more than a little garlic.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-14   6:04:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Vicomte13, TooConservative, A K A Stone (#58)

LibertysFlame looks to be like a bigger and less cranky expression of LibertyPost, and with Private Mail too. So I think this place will be excellent. The conversations we will have here will make it so, and my excellent (if lengthy) writing will be a material part of that. This is not arrogance, it is realism.

Well Stated. In addition to realism, it is also truth.

I realize that it is true: I write well....

Indeed you do.

Nice informative post.

Spartacus  posted on  2015-01-14   6:13:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Pericles (#57)

I honestly did not really remember your name that well.

I had a different handle there, one that enraged the Bushbots. The mods hated it. LOL. I can't believe they let me post for so long. I bet I'm one of the rare posters there whose posts have been completely eradicated.

I don't recall you either but I was a steadfast opponent of our actions in Yugoslavia. I recall in particular that as the early 2000 race developed, both McStain and Dumbya both raced to the microphones to pledge their undying support for Xlinton bombing the Chinese embassy and amputating Kosovo from Serbia and the rest of that idiocy. Stain/Dumbya were reciting all the "political disagreements stop at our shores" nonsense (which the Dims never reciprocate). Morons.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-14   7:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Vicomte13, Liberator (#59)

I think these are mostly matters of style. France is America's oldest ally, but a lot of Americans are allergic to things French, and I do write with more than a little garlic.

I recall you and I together on many threads about the election campaign of Sarkozy. Often, we were the only ones on those threads and were repelling trolls. I especially recall some threads with detailed comparisons of his campaign ads and posters to Reagan's 1984 Morning In America ads. Sarkozy created that same vibe with beautiful simple pastoral photos of lush French countryside. A brilliant campaign.

A sample of your writing on Sarkozy and France at TOS here.

And you still think there's a chance in hell that your Ivy League prose style wouldn't be noticed at TOS in short order? ‹/sarcasm

Liberator and I would have a better chance of retreading there despite our poignant and gripping tribute video to TOS and the heroic BobJ.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-14   8:12:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: TooConservative, A Pole, Vicomte13 (#61)

I had a different handle there, one that enraged the Bushbots. The mods hated it. LOL. I can't believe they let me post for so long. I bet I'm one of the rare posters there whose posts have been completely eradicated.

I don't recall you either but I was a steadfast opponent of our actions in Yugoslavia. I recall in particular that as the early 2000 race developed, both McStain and Dumbya both raced to the microphones to pledge their undying support for Xlinton bombing the Chinese embassy and amputating Kosovo from Serbia and the rest of that idiocy. Stain/Dumbya were reciting all the "political disagreements stop at our shores" nonsense (which the Dims never reciprocate). Morons.

I also remember this poster called Hamiltonian who posted on the Yugoslav / Kosovo affair and he actually got contacted by an oil/gas company to refute his allegations in a non refute kind of way (we were speculating that the whole stupid war was really fought in part to control pipeline routings into Europe).

There was a Milosevic web forum (I am not kidding) where when I signe dup I was literally called a saint for my work on Freerepublic by Serbian posters. That actually touched me. I stopped posting after Milosevic was murdered by - I assume - the CIA or affiliated NATO spook org after he threatened to subpenoa Clinton and Blair for his kangaroo court trial which he was winning. He appealed for help from Russia after blood thining meds were found in his system.

There was a throw away article done months after that stated Slobo was 'suicidal' and that he probbaly had someone smuggle in medication to make it appear NATO doctors/tribunal doctors were poisoning him because his trial was going badly for him or some such nonsense to close the case.

Pericles  posted on  2015-01-14   9:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Pericles (#63)

Certainly some of us still recall these events and the craven manipulation by .gov/media to cover up their machinations and criminality.

I wish Marguerite would come over.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-14   9:49:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Vicomte13 (#59)

A little reminder of the style of Sarkozy's Morning In America (matin en France) posters from, what, 2003?

He had some graphics with much more verdant landscapes and an exquisite modern font, the epitome of French high style through simplicity. Very sophisticated imagery.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-14   10:01:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Pericles (#63)

I believe that our first contacts there were on the first of only two threads (both vanities) that I initiated there. It was a thread on Orthodox-Catholic Reconciliation to heal the East-West Schism.

I was full of hope when I initiated the article. It's fair to say that within a month I was disabused of that tender emotion. I recall a fellow named "Kolokotronis" who posted there. He and I had good exchanges.

I recall that he tried to give me comfort that one of the most aggressively negative posters was a Serb, and "Serbs have dark souls"...which surprised me because I thought that was really harsh on the Serbs. Dark souls? Wow! He explained himself and I understood better that he wasn't saying that Serbs are evil, just embittered by history. Fair enough.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-14   10:43:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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