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Title: Be a man, try running Liberty Post
Source: LP
URL Source: [None]
Published: Jan 12, 2015
Author: Sneakypete and TooConservative
Post Date: 2015-01-12 16:37:59 by tpaine
Keywords: None
Views: 118859
Comments: 263

>> TooConservative-- Before you just shut it down, have you done any tally of results? Just eyeballing it, it looks like tpaine is probably above 60%.

>> Sneakypete---- Seems to ME that if TPaine is serious he would quit being a wuss and stand up like a man and say he will accept a 51 percent vote tally by regular posters as a victory and step up to the plate.

----It isn't me that would have to be a man and take all the bullshit... It would be the moderator. And my choice for mod would have been TooConservative, or Sneakypete, or even better, both of you.

----Tell you what, if you two take over mod/tech functions, I'd be willing to put up the money for the first year as the 'owner', and take responsibly for any legal problems we might encounter.

>> After all,he has never pretended to be anything other than a Libertarian with a "Big L",and since when have Bil L Libertarians ever demanded a 75 percent vote for anything?

-----I've never belonged to the big 'L' party. I consider myself a constitutional libertarian, who votes (mostly) republican.

>> In MY mind,if he doesn't man up and and accept ownership if he gets the majority of the votes,he was never serious about it to start with.

---I'll call your bluff. Put up (joining me, as above) or shut up about man-ing up.

>> I personally hope this isn't the case because I think all political discussion boards need Big L Libertarian owners/moderators. Anyone else and they just turn into partisan party arms preaching the party line with no dissent allowed. Without dissent there is no discussion.

---Here's your chance to put your man-ing up with your mouth. How bout it?

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#3. To: tpaine, sneakypete (#1)

I hope someone can ping Pete for me, at LP...

He has an account here but hasn't posted since October. He says he's coming over here.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-12   17:06:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: SOSO, and all you wannabe manly men. (#2)

tpaine, why do you want ownership of LP? Why not start your own site?

I really do NOT want to run (moderate) a web site. --- Try reading my post again. Pete is rubbing in my 'lack' of manliness, and I'm calling his bluff.

If Pete and TC would be mod/tech's, I would do the owner bit, for a year, just for laughs.. So in that sense, this is serious. --- But don't hold your breath waiting for it to happen.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-12   17:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: tpaine (#4)

But don't hold your breath waiting for it to happen.

Trust me, I won't.

If I may ask, what laughs were you hoping to get out of owning LP for a year?

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-12   17:16:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: SOSO (#5)

If I may ask, what laughs were you hoping to get out of owning LP for a year?

Read the comments over at Liberty Post on my 'take over' (from my perspective), and you'll see the humor.. I was truly laughing aloud at many points...

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-12   17:25:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: tpaine (#0)

Give it a rest, Windbag.

You were booted over there, the lights are going out, and you don't need to bring you petty crap over here.

Nexus6  posted on  2015-01-12   17:45:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative (#3)

One of your favorites here:

libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=338497

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name (John 1:12)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-12   18:02:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: redleghunter, Vicomte13 (#8)

One of your favorites here:

It's ranks at the top of the Chick library but lacks the playful frivolity of Chick's Death Cookie.

Sounds like Vic is coming over.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-12   18:09:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Nexus6, -- who is this clown? Anybody know? (#7)

You were booted over there, the lights are going out, and you don't need to bring you petty crap over here.

You're continuing the idiotic kettle/black practice of the gatlin faction at LP.

Find someone else to bother, or, ---- go hide behind the bozo function.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-12   18:10:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TooConservative, Vicomte13 (#9)

Sounds like Vic is coming over.

He's been here for a few weeks.

Heh neh (nasily French tone) the Vicomte flag is firmly planted ere on LF:)

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name (John 1:12)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-12   18:12:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: tpaine (#6)

Read the comments over at Liberty Post on my 'take over' (from my perspective), and you'll see the humor.. I was truly laughing aloud at many points...

I have as I was one of the active participants in the dialogue. It seems to me that you had a lot of support for your ownership bid. I had no objection to you taking ownership of LP. Too bad TooConservative appears to have been correct about you not being serious.

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-12   18:13:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: tpaine (#10)

You're continuing the idiotic kettle/black practice of the gatlin faction at LP.

Not really sure what that is.

Is it a conspiracy or is it too hard for you to believe someone else thinks you are a tiresome windbag?

Nexus6  posted on  2015-01-12   18:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: SOSO (#12)

Too bad TooConservative appears to have been correct about you not being serious.

Are you aware of the thread you're posting on? -- Just above I made a serious offer to both TC and S'Pete about hosting LP for another year.

If they want to do it, I'm in for the money (probably about $300 for the year). Granted, that ain't much anymore, but it would seriously cramp my fine wine fund.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-12   18:24:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: tpaine (#14)

Are you aware of the thread you're posting on? -- Just above I made a serious offer to both TC and S'Pete about hosting LP for another year.

Hardly.

So pray tell, what vintages do you have in your fine wine fund?

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-12   18:30:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Nexus6 --- why doesn't he bozo windbags? (#13)

---- is it too hard for you to believe someone else thinks you are a tiresome windbag?

That windbag line was worn out at LP by SOD/palmdale, who I'm betting you never heard of either.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-12   18:31:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: tpaine (#14)

You have to pardon my doubting you. But expecting LP's herd of cats to agree 75% on any question seemed a bit much.

It's a moot point now. I think the election was held and Neil said close it down. His was the vote that actually counted.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-12   18:32:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: tpaine, SOSO (#14)

Are you aware of the thread you're posting on? -- Just above I made a serious offer to both TC and S'Pete about hosting LP for another year.

If they want to do it, I'm in for the money (probably about $300 for the year). Granted, that ain't much anymore, but it would seriously cramp my fine wine fund.

It is clear you aren't serious now, nor have you ever been about spending a dime on the forums you tirelessly post your windbaggery.

Goldi-Lox once called you a "pain in the ass" for your endless 'look at me' exchanges about donating a paltry $100 to LP. You never donated it either.

Your continued endless drollery is so very tiresome. Why do you have to come here and bring your personal petty nonsense along with your enormous waste of bandwidth? Tiresome. Boring. Windbag.

Nexus6  posted on  2015-01-12   18:33:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: SOSO (#15)

So pray tell, what vintages do you have in your fine wine fund?

For $300 to put a dent in his 'fine wine' fund I would wager it is a case of December 2014 vintage Ripple.

Nexus6  posted on  2015-01-12   18:34:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: SOSO (#15)

You'll never know. And they're in my wine cellar, after I buy them with the funds. I'm presently collecting boxes of fine merlot.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-12   18:36:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: tpaine, Nexus6 (#20)

I'm presently collecting boxes of fine merlot.

Ah, some of the world's finest merlots come in boxes.

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-12   18:40:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Nexus6, is SOD (#18)

Goldi-Lox once called you a "pain in the ass" for your endless 'look at me' exchanges about donating a paltry $100 to LP. You never donated it either.

Yep, that's exactly what SOD posted recently over at LP.

Thanks for outing yourself.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-12   18:41:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: SOSO (#21)

Ah, some of the world's finest merlots come in boxes.

Truly a connoisseur of fine wine.

Had he been honest and not trolling for attention, he would have dazzled us with the most long winded of posts detailing his expertise in fine wine.

It is little wonder LP rejected him and that few thought his offer to be even serious.

Nexus6  posted on  2015-01-12   18:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: tpaine (#22)

Yep, that's exactly what SOD posted recently over at LP.

Thanks for outing yourself.

Your expert detective work is simply amazing. Please enlighten us as to how you made your deduction in your familiar long winded style. I'll try not to fall asleep as I read it.

Nexus6  posted on  2015-01-12   18:47:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Nexus6 (#24)

Good luck with that.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2015-01-12   21:28:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: tpaine (#4)

Pete is rubbing in my 'lack' of manliness, and I'm calling his bluff.

Little sensitive over that,bubba?

Even though I voted for you as the new owner,I came to believe you were just playing games about it or you would have accepted majority vote.

The kicker was after somebody mentioned the 100 dollar donation to LP bet that you made and never paid off.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-13   15:56:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: SOSO (#21)

Ah, some of the world's finest merlots come in boxes.

I believe the wine in boxes has a superior flavor to the wine that comes in aluminum pop-top cans.

Maybe that's just me,though?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-13   15:59:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#26)

I really do NOT want to run (moderate) a web site. --- Try reading my post again. Pete is rubbing in my 'lack' of manliness, and I'm calling his bluff.

If Pete and TC would be mod/tech's, I would do the owner bit, for a year, just for laughs.. So in that sense, this is serious. --- But don't hold your breath waiting for it to happen.

Little sensitive over that,bubba?

Over what, bubba, you saying 'man up'? Big hat, no cattle. Man up and tell us what you think of my idea about LP.

Even though I voted for you as the new owner,I came to believe you were just playing games about it or you would have accepted majority vote.

WE, --- meaning you, TC, and I still could 'accept', and I'd bet the sysadmin over there would turn the site over to us.

The kicker was after somebody mentioned the 100 dollar donation to LP bet that you made and never paid off.

That 'somebody' was SOD... I never made such an unconditional bet. The conditions were never fulfilled, and I never made a donation. -- And I'm not proud of that fact, the way things turned out.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-13   16:25:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: sneakypete (#27)

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

Spoken like a true anarchist that he is. After all who or what is more important the "me".

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-13   16:26:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: tpaine, Nexus6, is SOD (#22)

Yep, that's exactly what SOD posted recently over at LP.

Thanks for outing yourself.

Possibly.

This poster seems far too civil to be SOD, but of course it could be an act.

We'll know soon enough if he starts ranting and raving about "kooks", i.e, Libertarians and "Truthers".

"if you're not cop, you're little people"

Deckard  posted on  2015-01-13   16:29:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete (#27)

Ibelieve the wine in boxes has a superior flavor to the wine that comes in aluminum pop-top cans.

Maybe that's just me,though?

Au contraeu, the Rossi merlot, vintage 2014, is a particularly fine wine.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-13   16:30:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: SOSO, sneakypete (#29)

Spoken like a true anarchist that he is.

Ron Paul is an "anarchist"?

After all who or what is more important the "me".

Does the concept of individual liberty cause you to wet your panties?

Or are you just one of those "it takes a village" types?

"if you're not cop, you're little people"

Deckard  posted on  2015-01-13   16:32:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Deckard, tpaine, sneakypete (#30)

Yep, that's exactly what SOD posted recently over at LP. Thanks for outing yourself.

Possibly.

This poster seems far too civil to be SOD, but of course it could be an act.

See post #26 on this thread.

I believe sneakypete could also be SOD based on tpaine's analysis.

Please, can we stop the LP bickering here? It's still open for business. You can argue there all you want until tomorrow.

Nexus6  posted on  2015-01-13   16:38:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: tpaine (#28)

Pete is rubbing in my 'lack' of manliness, and I'm calling his bluff.

You sure as sensitive about that term. Why? Goldi ran that same web site for years. How "manly" was SHE?

Women runs tens of thousands of web sites.

I may be wrong,but I think your idea was to pose and cause conflict. Based mainly on the fact that you never paid up on the bet you lost. If you do that once,you will do it often.

WE, --- meaning you, TC, and I still could 'accept', and I'd bet the sysadmin over there would turn the site over to us.

Not anymore. It's over.

Besides,with my temper who would seriously consider me as a mod?

Besides,as a moderator I really wouldn't be able to join in on any discussions. Moderators have to/should stay personally aloof from all the dust being raised. How else can they remain impartial and fair? Even if they were,there would be a segment that would never believe I didn't moderate in order to enforce my personal POV instead of trying to lower the noise ratio.

I never made such an unconditional bet.

Ahhh,the devil is in the details! I freely admit I only paid casual interest in the events leading up to that bet and the precise details that defined it,but I do remember to the casual viewer (me) it sure as hell looked like you lost and refused to pay up.

And I'm not proud of that fact, the way things turned out.

Nor should you be,but I do give you credit for admitting you didn't pay up.

And dancing around and complaining about "fine details" does you no credit. You lost and refused to pay off a measly 100 dollar donation to LP bet. Your own sense of pride and self-respect should have forced you to pay up to avoid questions being asked,and the fact that you didn't pay up does not speak well for your character. If you can't be trusted to pay off a lousy 100 bet,how can you be trusted to do anything else you say you will do?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-13   16:40:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: tpaine, TooConservative, Sneakypete (#1)

I offered to Mod or to pay expenses or to give up my votes to tpaine. All to no avail.

Pericles  posted on  2015-01-13   16:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Deckard (#32)

Does the concept of individual liberty cause you to wet your panties?

Or are you just one of those "it takes a village" types?

Yeah,that described me alright! If there is one thing I'm known for it's not making waves and going with the flow.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-13   16:44:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Nexus6 (#33)

I believe sneakypete could also be SOD based on tpaine's analysis.

LOL!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-13   16:45:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Pericles (#35)

I offered to Mod or to pay expenses or to give up my votes to tpaine. All to no avail.

I know,and I admit that I was surprised.

Good on you.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-13   16:46:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: sneakypete (#36)

Does the concept of individual liberty cause you to wet your panties?

Or are you just one of those "it takes a village" types?

Yeah,that described me alright! If there is one thing I'm known for it's not making waves and going with the flow.

I think you misunderstood - that comment was directed to SOSO concerning his calling RP an "anarchist".

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"if you're not cop, you're little people"

Deckard  posted on  2015-01-13   16:48:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Deckard (#39) (Edited)

I think you misunderstood - that comment was directed to SOSO concerning his calling RP an "anarchist".

OOPS!

My apologies.

I do have to admit that given my tag line I couldn't figure out why you would think I don't like Ron Paul.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-13   16:49:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Nexus6, quit lying (#33)

can we stop the LP bickering here? It's still open for business. You can argue there all you want until tomorrow.

Not true, the JBT sysy censored some of my remarks just today.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-13   17:08:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: sneakypete (#34)

I really do NOT want to run (moderate) a web site. --- Try reading my post again. Pete is rubbing in my 'lack' of manliness, and I'm calling his bluff.

Little sensitive over that,bubba?
Over what, bubba, you saying 'man up'? Big hat, no cattle. Man up and tell us what you think of my idea about LP.
You sure as sensitive about that term. Why? Goldi ran that same web site for years. How "manly" was SHE? --- Women runs tens of thousands of web sites.
Weird reply Pete. I'm not sensitive about any term, nor are you. The cadre in jump school made sure of that, correct?
I may be wrong,but I think your idea was to pose and cause conflict. Based mainly on the fact that you never paid up on the bet you lost. If you do that once,you will do it often.
You're wrong, bubba.
Ahhh,the devil is in the details! I freely admit I only paid casual interest in the events leading up to that bet and the precise details that defined it,but I do remember to the casual viewer (me) it sure as hell looked like you lost and refused to pay up.
Thanks for manning up as a casual viewer. Your opinion is filed. And I'm not proud of the fact that I never gave her a donation, -- the way things turned out, but I never owed her one.
Nor should you be,but I do give you credit for admitting you didn't pay up.
Big of you bubba. Thanks.
And dancing around and complaining about "fine details" does you no credit.
Pete, I'll dance with you all you want. I don't quite know what you hope to accomplish by ragging on me, but feel free.
You lost and refused to pay off a measly 100 dollar donation to LP bet.
That was the gatlin groups version of what happened. It is bullshit.
Your own sense of pride and self-respect should have forced you to pay up to avoid questions being asked,and the fact that you didn't pay up does not speak well for your character. If you can't be trusted to pay off a lousy 100 bet,how can you be trusted to do anything else you say you will do?
You're going beyond the line with your suppositions, and I don't have a clue why you're doing it. -- Something else bothering you, bubba?

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-13   17:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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