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Title: Be a man, try running Liberty Post
Source: LP
URL Source: [None]
Published: Jan 12, 2015
Author: Sneakypete and TooConservative
Post Date: 2015-01-12 16:37:59 by tpaine
Keywords: None
Views: 121250
Comments: 263

>> TooConservative-- Before you just shut it down, have you done any tally of results? Just eyeballing it, it looks like tpaine is probably above 60%.

>> Sneakypete---- Seems to ME that if TPaine is serious he would quit being a wuss and stand up like a man and say he will accept a 51 percent vote tally by regular posters as a victory and step up to the plate.

----It isn't me that would have to be a man and take all the bullshit... It would be the moderator. And my choice for mod would have been TooConservative, or Sneakypete, or even better, both of you.

----Tell you what, if you two take over mod/tech functions, I'd be willing to put up the money for the first year as the 'owner', and take responsibly for any legal problems we might encounter.

>> After all,he has never pretended to be anything other than a Libertarian with a "Big L",and since when have Bil L Libertarians ever demanded a 75 percent vote for anything?

-----I've never belonged to the big 'L' party. I consider myself a constitutional libertarian, who votes (mostly) republican.

>> In MY mind,if he doesn't man up and and accept ownership if he gets the majority of the votes,he was never serious about it to start with.

---I'll call your bluff. Put up (joining me, as above) or shut up about man-ing up.

>> I personally hope this isn't the case because I think all political discussion boards need Big L Libertarian owners/moderators. Anyone else and they just turn into partisan party arms preaching the party line with no dissent allowed. Without dissent there is no discussion.

---Here's your chance to put your man-ing up with your mouth. How bout it?

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#49. To: All (#0) (Edited)

Just received a couple of emails from the Sysadmin-LP, -- in his first he tried to apologize for any 'unnecessary aggravation' he had caused me.

I replied that being unfairly banned from websites was no big deal (twice in 18 years?, shrug) but that because he called me a criminal, I couldn't accept his apology, - - although I thanked him for the amusing 'election'....

His reply: ----

Oh, I forgot to mention that all further email from you will be automatically deleted without being read. Believe it or not I don't harbor any particularly ill will, I just don't want to be bothered. Your phony offer to take over LP was actually helpful in the end. As I said, have a nice life.

What a sweetheart, -- I hope he gets absolution from some confessor, but he won't get it from me.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-13   21:06:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: tpaine (#49)

Oh, I forgot to mention that all further email from you will be automatically deleted without being read. Believe it or not I don't harbor any particularly ill will, I just don't want to be bothered. Your phony offer to take over LP was actually helpful in the end. As I said, have a nice life.

He's ashamed of how he conducted himself overall. He was dishonest and his generally low character surfaced. Now he wants to act all nonchalant and above it all. What a phony.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-13   21:29:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: TooConservative (#52) (Edited)

Thanks for your support.

Oh, I forgot, -- I'd appreciate it if someone here would repost this lovely last message from the sysadmin, over at LP's 'Last Post'.

Some there may be enlightened that my "phony" offer helped him to shut LP down.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-13   21:36:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: tpaine, Pericles, Hondo68, Fred Mertz (#53)

Thanks for your support.

Not at all.

He chickened out. You do realize that tomorrow is the last day of Goldi's annual DNS subscription?

sysadmin had already renewed it, apparently under his own name. I advised against this. I think he finally realized that the only thing about LP that was Goldi's was the domain name (libertypost.org & .net).

So he's closing it at noon tomorrow because at midnight tomorrow night, he would be using Goldi's pilfered property for his own purposes, however innocent those might actually be.

You weren't any legal threat to him compared to the actual legal peril he put himself in. And what do you suppose would happen the first time he made someone really really mad? They'd make complaints that he pilfered the domain name, might make fiduciary complaints against him concerning the handling of a deceased person's property. And that domain name was the only part of LP that Goldi actually owned and that had a real value, however negligible.

But by turning the domain into a memorial, no one can say that he took it for himself unlawfully. And he never actually wanted it to begin with anyway.

The DNS issue and his own bizarre ever-changing election with new candidates and new options and new scoring methods ending in complete tatters were why he pulled the plug. That and Neil telling him to close it. Neil's vote probably counted more than the rest of us put together because they knew each other personally for about 15 years.

And for all his whining about how awful we were and how awful all his friends thought we were, he actually did almost no moderating at all.

He pulled the plug at noon on the 14th because Goldi's DNS expires at midnight.

The rest is just a smokescreen and him trying to cover his own rather shameful election debacle.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-13   22:19:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: TooConservative (#55)

The rest is just a smokescreen and him trying to cover his own rather shameful election debacle.

I wouldn't call it "shameful."
I think that he simply didn't anticipate the can-of-worms that he plunged into.

But what you said about the real legal repurcussions of assuming ownership makes sense, so I agree that shutting LP down and putting up a memorial is the only thing that makes sense. Maybe one of these days Goldi's true family and next-of-kin will come across it and be comforted by the cyber-tribute left behind in her memory.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-01-14   11:35:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Willie Green (#79)

sysy started out as a clueless rube, and proceeded to shameful rather quickly. Whenever Gatlin came up with a scary sounding tale, he'd jump.

A puppet on a string.

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-14   12:07:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#81. To: hondo68 (#80)

sysy started out as a clueless rube, and proceeded to

Awwwww... c'mon now... in all fairness to sysadmin... if ever there was proof for the old maxim "Truth is stranger than fiction," it's gotta be LibertyPost.

LOL! If you didn't participate in that bizarre soap opera for the last dozen years, there simply ain't no way you'd ever understand or believe it.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-01-14 12:22:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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