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Title: OFFER TO (PARTLY) TAKE OVER LP RECEIVED
Source: LibertyPost
URL Source: http://libertypost.net/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=350039&Disp=1#C1
Published: Jan 9, 2015
Author: sysadmin
Post Date: 2015-01-09 19:40:45 by Murron
Keywords: None
Views: 79862
Comments: 168

I have received the following email from tpaine, who has offered to take over financial responsibility for LP but is not interested in moderating the site.

Be aware that moderation implies control over content and a moderator may also be the target of litigation. (Lawyers tend to latch onto anyone even remotely involved in a situation to see what will stick.)

Feel free to discuss this and at the end we would need to take a vote of active posters in good standing. If the site ownership is turned over to tpaine I would end my moderation of the site and cancel the plans to move it to my own server.

Message follows:

"At this time I would like to make a formal offer to pay the bill for hosting and domain registration, and to assume the liability for lawsuits, -- As 'the owner'. --- However, I have no interest in moderating the site and would hope that someone who could get the approval of at least 75% of the currently active members would take on that job.

I would also hope that the site could retain the services of someone like Neil McIver to deal with tech issues.

Please post this on the site, seeing that you refuse to allow me to post comments."


Poster Comment:

I'll bet this will wipe that smug look off Gatlins face....LOL

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#41. To: hondo68 (#40)

Thank you Stone, the missing link.... Destro=Godwinson=Pericles.

Not sure but I think Destro stopped posting at TPF because the audience declined to a handful, plus it was a closed site - had to be registered to lurk.

I think either tpaine or Pericles would be acceptable owners and moderators. Maybe they can let tpaine own and Destro moderate as a compromise solution.

Like I said earlier, the place self-moderates quite nicely.

I find it difficult to believe that long time posters Palmhair and tater/Gatlin put their tails between their legs and scampered off like they did.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-10   11:47:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: A K A Stone (#39)

Destro/Godwinson got pissed and said this was a racist site.

He also got mad about being asked how many government handouts he accepted.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-01-10   13:33:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Murron (#33)

Here's hoping tpaine was honest with his offer and gets the votes. I know I'll take a powder if Destro gets his hands on LP...

tpaine will get mine and Godwinson won't.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-01-10   13:37:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Fred Mertz (#41)

I find it difficult to believe that long time posters Palmhair and tater/Gatlin put their tails between their legs and scampered off like they did.

It is bizarre, no?

And tpaine managed to pull it off while suspended.

Even better, they're probably wishing they hadn't opused over tpaine as owner since now they missed their chance to opus over Destro instead! LOL.

Life is full of small regrets.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-10   13:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Fred Mertz (#41)

I find it difficult to believe that long time posters Palmhair and tater/Gatlin put their tails between their legs and scampered off like they did.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-01-10   13:40:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: TooConservative (#44)

Even better, they're probably wishing they hadn't opused over tpaine as owner since now they missed their chance to opus over Destro instead!

I don't think they would have opused over Godwinson that much, but I could be wrong.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-01-10   13:42:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: TooConservative, fred mertz, Y'ALL (#44)

Fred Mertz (#41) I find it difficult to believe that long time posters Palmhair and tater/Gatlin put their tails between their legs and scampered off like they did.

It is bizarre, no?

And tpaine managed to pull it off while suspended. --- TC

I 'pulled off' nothing. The only logical reason for the clowns to scamper at the possibility of email disclosure, is that they were all connected personas, (which we've all suspected), but really, who cares? -- It's bizarre indeed.

In any case, the vote is on over at LP, and odds are our anonymous sysadmin will 'win', which will be fine with me. I've made a legitimate offer, but without a volunteer moderator to actually run the site, I'd be in over my head. I think TooConservative would be ideal to be that moderator.

If the anonosysadmin wins, I'd predict the site is dead within a year.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-10   14:03:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: tpaine (#47)

In any case, the vote is on over at LP, and odds are our anonymous sysadmin will 'win',

I think your prediction is wrong.

The problem I see is that you and Pericles/Destro/Godwinson are equal candidates, at least from my point of view.

I'm happy you stepped up to the plate, since I read there often.

I think you and Pericles should come to some sort of mutual agreement. You own and he moderates - something like that.

Best wishes and best of luck.

I don't think moderating that place is the monster your presume it is.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-10   14:10:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Fred Mertz, pericles, tooconservative, Y'ALL (#48)

--- you and Pericles should come to some sort of mutual agreement. You own and he moderates - something like that.

Nope, I couldn't work with pericles. TooConservative would be my choice for a moderator.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-10   14:21:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: tpaine, TooConservative (#49)

Yes, TC is a commodity. Fair, smart, techie...sometimes long winded.

Okay, I'm voting you over Godwinson...in abstentia.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-10   14:28:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Fred Mertz (#50)

Nice to see you have an open mind. Thanks Fred.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-10   14:39:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: tpaine (#51)

SOD votes to close the place down. That stupid old drunk...

His vote shouldn't count IMO.

Like I said, good luck. I'm going to return to real life Saturday...hoops, etc.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-10   14:47:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: tpaine (#47)

tpaine, I voted for you, good luck. With some of the klan gone, it may be a lot more peaceful.

Stoner  posted on  2015-01-10   15:17:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: CZ82 (#45)

LMAO !!

So, which of the two is Palmhair, and which one is tater/Gatlin?

Stoner  posted on  2015-01-10   15:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Stoner, tpaine (#53)

tpaine, I voted for you, good luck. With some of the klan gone, it may be a lot more peaceful.

Hi stoner. I agree with what you said to sysadmin at LP on post #27. Anyone who feels that miserable and put-upon, his personal life suffering, should back off and let someone else do the job, and maybe even enjoy doing it. jmho~ murron

#27. To: sysadmin (#0)

1. tpaine

3. status quo (sysadmin)

"sysadmin, you have done a good job. Many thanks to you for your efforts. But since this has become a burden you do not want",...

I will vote for tpaine

stoner posted on 2015-01-10

("Throw me to the wolves...and I will return leading the pack")

Murron  posted on  2015-01-10   15:38:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Stoner (#53)

tpaine, I voted for you, good luck. With some of the klan gone, it may be a lot more peaceful.

Thanks for your support, but don't hold your breath for any 'peaceful ownership'. I'm willing ( but not eager) and I doubt it'll ever happen, -- as you can see by the vote to date.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-10   15:46:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: All (#56)

sysadmin (#0) Just so you are aware.

Tpaine is over at LF claming that you are rigging the game over here and your intentions are other than what you have stated.

Beware of this guy in any sort of dealing. He is not all there.

SOD

Just so all you here at LF are aware.

SOD is over at LF claming that I am claiming the game is being rigged over at LP and the sysadmin intentions are other than what he has staged. --- He's partially right, as per my comments since I started posting in here. Anyone that cares about this tempest in a teapot should read them.

Beware of this guy in any sort of dealing. He is not all there. -- SOD

As usual, the poor sod cautions us about his own traits.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-10   17:52:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: tpaine, Stupid Old Drunk, *Yukon neo-Progressive Vermin* (#57)

SOD -- is not all there.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-10   18:06:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: tpaine (#47)

I 'pulled off' nothing. The only logical reason for the clowns to scamper at the possibility of email disclosure, is that they were all connected personas, (which we've all suspected), but really, who cares? -- It's bizarre indeed.

And 22rifle has (kinda) joined the stampede to leave.

Maybe they have some email addresses they've used for years and fear they might get tracked down or something. Like you're going to track them down or something. Using that kind of info for stalking is against the law anyway.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-10   18:11:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: tpaine (#49)

TooConservative would be my choice for a moderator.

I'm not the best choice maybe. But I am willing to help clean up the pinglists.     : )

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-10   18:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: TooConservative (#59)

I 'pulled off' nothing. The only logical reason for the clowns to scamper at the possibility of email disclosure, is that they were all connected personas, (which we've all suspected), but really, who cares? -- It's bizarre indeed.

And 22rifle has (kinda) joined the stampede to leave. --- Maybe they have some email addresses they've used for years and fear they might get tracked down or something.

Good take, - it must be something like that.

Like you're going to track them down or something. Using that kind of info for stalking is against the law anyway.

Yep, there was a lot of paranoia in that crowd. I enjoyed yanking their chains, but their weird ideas about 'evil stalkers' is crazy.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-10   18:55:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: tpaine (#61)

#55. To: Booshbot666 (#30)

tpaine is unable to vote for himself.

I will put in that vote for him.

My own vote is to shut LP down and put up a memorial.

sysadmin posted on 2015-01-10

libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...ArtNum=350051&Disp=55#C55


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-10   19:04:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: hondo68, A K A Stone, TooConservative, Murron, domer (#29)

Now the vote will be a choice between tpaine, and PericlesDestro.

Yikes! tpaine is shining like a dime on a goats ass, compared to Destro.

I think domer had the best suggestion. Lay to rest LP as is with Goldi. It was her vision.

Who wants one of the polarized posters taking over. Not me.

Stone does a good job here of keeping things open. He also cleaned some stuff up since the whole "vomit" exodus.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name (John 1:12)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-10   19:06:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: TooConservative (#44)

Even better, they're probably wishing they hadn't opused over tpaine as owner since now they missed their chance to opus over Destro instead! LOL.

Life is full of small regrets.

This is so much better than Ice Road Truckers!

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name (John 1:12)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-10   19:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: redleghunter (#63)

Stone does a good job here of keeping things open.

I'm totally amazed that he hasn't banned me yet!


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-10   19:13:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: tpaine (#49)

Nope, I couldn't work with pericles. TooConservative would be my choice for a moderator.

Pericles is a hardened Marxist. No way.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name (John 1:12)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-10   19:15:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: hondo68 (#65)

He won't. You are not a raving homosexual, narco-marxist.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name (John 1:12)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-10   19:28:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: hondo68 (#65)

I'm totally amazed that he hasn't banned me yet!

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-01-10   19:33:28 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: All, booshbot, Y'ALL, and LPs sysadmin (#57)

From LP: ---

Booshbot666 (#182) --- Please unban tpaine.

sysadmin ---- Given the circumstances wherein tpain deliberately used this site in an attempt to challenge established copyright law, with yours truly shouldering the responsibility for any resulting litigation, I am not going to do that.

The sysadmin used his legally debatable 'shouldering responsibility' as an excuse to ban me.

However I am in email contact with tpaine and will relay all messages here, as I have been doing.

Don't bother. I'm fully capable of reading posts at LP.

If he wins then he will be able to post to his heart's content after the ownership transfer takes place. --- sysadmin

It's now obvious I won't 'win', as the vote thread already shows close to 25 individual posters voting for either option #2,3,or 4. I made my offer contingent upon receiving a 75% approval from active members. -- You posted several days ago that LP had approx 90 active posters last month. -- I believe the membership has spoken, which is just fine with me. -- Frankly, without a moderator like TooConservative, I doubt I could have done a proper job anyway.

Thanks to all who supported me, and don't give up the fight for rational moderation.

Please, can someone repost this over at LP..

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-10   19:37:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: tpaine (#69)

The vote will likely continue for days, perhaps a week. Lots of people don't check in for days at a time then check in to catch up on things, like on their day off.

This idea that anyone can get 75% approval as owner (or mod) may have to be re-examined. No one who has been there long enough to be known is likely to pass muster.

With a herd of cats like LP, you'd do well to get 65%. Or even 50%.

sysadmin is getting some votes but that is mostly because no one has any idea of what his opinions are on anything.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-10   19:44:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: TooConservative, Y'ALL (#70)

It's now obvious I won't 'win', as the vote thread already shows close to 25 individual posters voting for either option #2,3,or 4. I made my offer contingent upon receiving a 75% approval from active members. -- You posted several days ago that LP had approx 90 active posters last month. -- I believe the membership has spoken, which is just fine with me. -- Frankly, without a moderator like TooConservative, I doubt I could have done a proper job anyway.

Thanks to all who supported me, and don't give up the fight for rational moderation.

Please, can someone repost this over at LP..

The vote will likely continue for days, perhaps a week. Lots of people don't check in for days at a time then check in to catch up on things, like on their day off. ---- This idea that anyone can get 75% approval as owner (or mod) may have to be re- examined.

The 75% approval 'idea' was a contingency of mine. I would not want to be the 'owner' of a site where over 25% of the members opposed my policies.

I'd appreciate it if someone would repost this at LP.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-10   20:04:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: tpaine (#71)

Thanks to all who supported me, and don't give up the fight for rational moderation.

That fuckhead won't let you post over there yet?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-10   20:38:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: tpaine (#71)

The 75% approval 'idea' was a contingency of mine. I would not want to be the 'owner' of a site where over 25% of the members opposed my policies.

“Be not afraid of greatness. Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and others have greatness thrust into them.”

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Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Nobody calls me Mad Dog.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2015-01-10   20:42:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: tpaine (#71)

#55. To: Booshbot666 (#30)

>> tpaine is unable to vote for himself.

I will put in that vote for him.

My own vote is to shut LP down and put up a memorial.

sysadmin posted on 2015-01-10 18:47:39 ET Reply Trace

Yes, they choose the easier wrong, rather than the harder right.

sysadmin can live with that poor choice.

Hard to believe they're going to send elPee down the crapper when they don't have to.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-10   20:53:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Biff Tannen, tpaine, Fred Mertz (#73) (Edited)

“Be not afraid of greatness. Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and others have greatness thrust into them.”

This is no time to go all wobbly like Ross Perot.

Someone's got to bitch slap Gatlin, and it might as well be tpaine.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-10   21:04:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Fred Mertz (#72)

That fuckhead won't let you post over there yet?

Nope, and he can't read so good either. Get this exchange,: ---

Pericles (#203) --- Sounds like tpaine is withdrawing.

sysadmin --- It's not over until it's over - let's leave the voting open a while and see how it totals up. The real hurdle I see for tpaine is that even if he wins this vote his taking over is contingent on getting a moderator with 75% approval rating. So if he were to win but we cannot find a suitable moderator, the next highest selection would win.

My 'takeover' was always contingent on a 75% approval, and sysy knows it. It's already obvious that 25% of the voters don't want my type of policies, and that's just fine with me.

It's been fun watching this guy operate. And more fun to come!!

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-10   21:06:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: tpaine (#76)

It's already obvious that 25% of the voters don't want my type of policies, and that's just fine with me.

No one knows your policies.

I'd assume you wouldn't rock the boat, regardless of your opinions on all things.

No one wants a tyrant in charge. That's why Goldi had a good thing going for a dozen plus years.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-10   21:12:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: hondo68 (#75)

Someone's got to bitch slap Gatlin, and it might as well be tpaine.

Gatlin, misterwhite,palmdale,sod, -- have all bitch-slapped themselves by their overreaction to my possible ownership. They all have something to hide relating to their registration emails. -- I have no idea what it could be.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-10   21:13:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Biff Tannen (#73)

“Be not afraid of greatness. Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and others have greatness thrust into them.”

LOL Biff I posted the same Shakespeare over on LP for Neal and Uncle Siggy:)

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name (John 1:12)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-10   21:18:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Fred Mertz (#74)

Fred throw your hat in the ring.

I'm surprised Yukon hasn't tried already.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name (John 1:12)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-10   21:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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